The Official Scottish Rugby Thread

[KingBlairhorn]

Imagine the state of her when FoS is played pre game… never mind when we play England and she has the added stress of GSTK, she can’t win - traitor or hypocrite… probably both.

I’m very much a nationalist but overly political individuals should be kept away from sporting positions like this imo. I would feel the same if it was a high profile nationalist politician.

Huge own goal by the SRU imo. Not exactly doing much to dispel the view of rugby in Scotland as being elitist, non inclusive and, dare I say, right wing.

Douglas Ross is quite literally an SFA employee.

[Yr Alban]

Imagine the state of her when FoS is played pre game… never mind when we play England and she has the added stress of GSTK, she can’t win - traitor or hypocrite… probably both.

I’m very much a nationalist but overly political individuals should be kept away from sporting positions like this imo. I would feel the same if it was a high profile nationalist politician.

Huge own goal by the SRU imo. Not exactly doing much to dispel the view of rugby in Scotland as being elitist, non inclusive and, dare I say, right wing.

Douglas Ross is quite literally an SFA employee.

Well, yes. But he was an SFA employee who then became an MP and then an MSP, not the other way round.

[Tattie]

Imagine the state of her when FoS is played pre game… never mind when we play England and she has the added stress of GSTK, she can’t win - traitor or hypocrite… probably both.

I’m very much a nationalist but overly political individuals should be kept away from sporting positions like this imo. I would feel the same if it was a high profile nationalist politician.

Huge own goal by the SRU imo. Not exactly doing much to dispel the view of rugby in Scotland as being elitist, non inclusive and, dare I say, right wing.

Douglas Ross is quite literally an SFA employee.

Yes but he was a linesman before his political career “took off”.

Completely different though as he an official running the line, a billion miles away from being a Non-Executive Director.

He gets utter dogs abuse every week. He’s got thick skin, I’ll give him that.

[Biffer]

For those of you defending the appointment of Davidson, ask yourself how you’d react if they appointed Sturgeon, who has a pretty similar cv apart from the fact she was far more successful in her career as a politician.

[Tattie]

Imagine the state of her when FoS is played pre game… never mind when we play England and she has the added stress of GSTK, she can’t win - traitor or hypocrite… probably both.

I’m very much a nationalist but overly political individuals should be kept away from sporting positions like this imo. I would feel the same if it was a high profile nationalist politician.

Huge own goal by the SRU imo. Not exactly doing much to dispel the view of rugby in Scotland as being elitist, non inclusive and, dare I say, right wing.

Can you imagine the outcry that would have ensued if they had announced they had appointed Alex Salmond?

I absolutely agree with you. I would be less offended by a pro-Indy politician, but I don’t think they would be any more appropriate an appointment.

Yeah absolutely.

If going by the comments on the SRU Facebook page is anything to go by then I don’t think it’s a very popular appointment… to say the least. At least 75% negativity I would say.

[Simian]

It’s a bizarre, needlessly divisive, and, quite frankly, incredibly stupid appointment.

[Slick]

For those of you defending the appointment of Davidson, ask yourself how you’d react if they appointed Sturgeon, who has a pretty similar cv apart from the fact she was far more successful in her career as a politician.

I’m more just disappointed that everything in Scotland comes down to this. It’s fucking depressing whoever it is

[Yr Alban]

For those of you defending the appointment of Davidson, ask yourself how you’d react if they appointed Sturgeon, who has a pretty similar cv apart from the fact she was far more successful in her career as a politician.

I’m more just disappointed that everything in Scotland comes down to this. It’s fucking depressing whoever it is

That’s because it is a really important issue to a whole lot of people.

My response to the SRU’s tweet (the toxic Twitter thread you mentioned, I’m guessing) currently has 276 likes, 36 retweets and one (1) negative reply. The ratio suggests this will not prove to be a popular move by the SRU. Rather like when the NTS employed Neil Oliver.

[Tattie]

For those of you defending the appointment of Davidson, ask yourself how you’d react if they appointed Sturgeon, who has a pretty similar cv apart from the fact she was far more successful in her career as a politician.

I’m more just disappointed that everything in Scotland comes down to this. It’s fucking depressing whoever it is

You don’t think this kind of appointment would have the same kind of reaction anywhere else, only Scotland?

We also have a fairly unique and very polarised political landscape at the moment which adds an extra dimension.

Anyone at the SRU who didn’t expect some kind of backlash is naive in the extreme. Really, what did they expect with such an appointment? And as I’ve already said, I would have thought the same if it had been a current SNP or Green etc politician. Far, far too divisive.

[Slick]

For those of you defending the appointment of Davidson, ask yourself how you’d react if they appointed Sturgeon, who has a pretty similar cv apart from the fact she was far more successful in her career as a politician.

I’m more just disappointed that everything in Scotland comes down to this. It’s fucking depressing whoever it is

You don’t think this kind of appointment would have the same kind of reaction anywhere else, only Scotland?

We also have a fairly unique and very polarised political landscape at the moment which adds an extra dimension.

Anyone at the SRU who didn’t expect some kind of backlash is naive in the extreme. Really, what did they expect with such an appointment? And as I’ve already said, I would have thought the same if it had been a current SNP or Green etc politician. Far, far too divisive.

I agree with your last paragraph, just seems a dumb move. Still sad, depressing and embarrassing that it is though

[Slick]

For those of you defending the appointment of Davidson, ask yourself how you’d react if they appointed Sturgeon, who has a pretty similar cv apart from the fact she was far more successful in her career as a politician.

I’m more just disappointed that everything in Scotland comes down to this. It’s fucking depressing whoever it is

That’s because it is a really important issue to a whole lot of people.

My response to the SRU’s tweet (the toxic Twitter thread you mentioned, I’m guessing) currently has 276 likes, 36 retweets and one (1) negative reply. The ratio suggests this will not prove to be a popular move by the SRU. Rather like when the NTS employed Neil Oliver.

No, it would suggest to me that most people don’t give a fuck but it has been jumped on by the rabid mob.

I looked at the tweets of a few of those throwing away their decades long seasons tickets and strangely not one had managed to make a comment during the entire 6N

[Slick]

For those of you defending the appointment of Davidson, ask yourself how you’d react if they appointed Sturgeon, who has a pretty similar cv apart from the fact she was far more successful in her career as a politician.

I’m more just disappointed that everything in Scotland comes down to this. It’s fucking depressing whoever it is

That’s because it is a really important issue to a whole lot of people.

My response to the SRU’s tweet (the toxic Twitter thread you mentioned, I’m guessing) currently has 276 likes, 36 retweets and one (1) negative reply. The ratio suggests this will not prove to be a popular move by the SRU. Rather like when the NTS employed Neil Oliver.

I also haven’t seen many bonfires of season passes in the last 4 decades that well know anti British establishment figure Princess Anne has been Patron

[Tattie]

I’m more just disappointed that everything in Scotland comes down to this. It’s fucking depressing whoever it is

That’s because it is a really important issue to a whole lot of people.

My response to the SRU’s tweet (the toxic Twitter thread you mentioned, I’m guessing) currently has 276 likes, 36 retweets and one (1) negative reply. The ratio suggests this will not prove to be a popular move by the SRU. Rather like when the NTS employed Neil Oliver.

I also haven’t seen many bonfires of season passes in the last 4 decades that well know anti British establishment figure Princess Anne has been Patron

What an incredibly silly comparison. I’m certainly no royalist but princess Anne is a non controversial, non (outwardly) political, pretty benign, relatively minor royal who has shown a love for Scottish rugby for decades. Personally, I’m neither up nor down about her involvement but she seems genuinely passionate so it’s fine by me… and I’m sure the vast majority.

Davidson, on the other hand is a sitting, non-elected member of the HoL who made a career out of being an angry, mouthy, divisive, SNP bad, anti-independence.. some would argue anti Scottish, politician for a party that gets roughly 25% of the vote, on a good day. Before running away to the HoL for her ermine and £350 a day before she was humiliated at the ballot box.

Ludicrous comparison.

[Slick]

That’s because it is a really important issue to a whole lot of people.

My response to the SRU’s tweet (the toxic Twitter thread you mentioned, I’m guessing) currently has 276 likes, 36 retweets and one (1) negative reply. The ratio suggests this will not prove to be a popular move by the SRU. Rather like when the NTS employed Neil Oliver.

I also haven’t seen many bonfires of season passes in the last 4 decades that well know anti British establishment figure Princess Anne has been Patron

What an incredibly silly comparison. I’m certainly no royalist but princess Anne is a non controversial, non (outwardly) political, pretty benign, relatively minor royal who has shown a love for Scottish rugby for decades. Personally, I’m neither up nor down about her involvement but she seems genuinely passionate so it’s fine by me… and I’m sure the vast majority.

Davidson, on the other hand is a sitting, non-elected member of the HoL who made a career out of being an angry, mouthy, divisive, SNP bad, anti-independence.. some would argue anti Scottish, politician for a party that gets roughly 25% of the vote, on a good day. Before running away to the HoL for her ermine and £350 a day before she was humiliated at the ballot box.

Ludicrous comparison.

Anti Scottish? Deary me.

[Tattie]

I also haven’t seen many bonfires of season passes in the last 4 decades that well know anti British establishment figure Princess Anne has been Patron

What an incredibly silly comparison. I’m certainly no royalist but princess Anne is a non controversial, non (outwardly) political, pretty benign, relatively minor royal who has shown a love for Scottish rugby for decades. Personally, I’m neither up nor down about her involvement but she seems genuinely passionate so it’s fine by me… and I’m sure the vast majority.

Davidson, on the other hand is a sitting, non-elected member of the HoL who made a career out of being an angry, mouthy, divisive, SNP bad, anti-independence.. some would argue anti Scottish, politician for a party that gets roughly 25% of the vote, on a good day. Before running away to the HoL for her ermine and £350 a day before she was humiliated at the ballot box.

Ludicrous comparison.

Anti Scottish? Deary me.

That’s all you can pick out of my post? I said “some would say anti Scottish” I don’t think that although I’m pretty sure sure she would rather Scotland was just officially no more than a “region” of the UK and that Hollyrood was disbanded or at least have its powers slashed dramatically. By extension, I would bet that she would rather we just had Team GB for all sports. Another reason that this appointment is a joke.

[KingBlairhorn]

Twitter is at most representative of the attitudes, opinions and ultimately actions of only a tiny subset of the population. Just because the Twitter mob have decided this is bad, do not expect any kind of similar reaction from the general public at large who possibly don’t care but most likely don’t and won’t ever know.

Would I have chosen her? Absolutely not. Do I think it’s a disgrace? No, I don’t. Ultimately do I care? Not really.

[Yr Alban]

I’m more just disappointed that everything in Scotland comes down to this. It’s fucking depressing whoever it is

That’s because it is a really important issue to a whole lot of people.

My response to the SRU’s tweet (the toxic Twitter thread you mentioned, I’m guessing) currently has 276 likes, 36 retweets and one (1) negative reply. The ratio suggests this will not prove to be a popular move by the SRU. Rather like when the NTS employed Neil Oliver.

No, it would suggest to me that most people don’t give a fuck but it has been jumped on by the rabid mob.

I looked at the tweets of a few of those throwing away their decades long seasons tickets and strangely not one had managed to make a comment during the entire 6N

I’m assuming that when you say ‘the rabid mob’ you mean people who don’t share your political opinions. That’s understandable, to a degree. I felt exactly the same whenever I looked at the replies to anything Nicola Sturgeon ever tweeted. Even if it was about the book she was reading. However, you can’t just write off all dissenting voices as cranks. About 50% of Scotland supports independence, way higher than that in under 40s. This isn’t a fringe belief any more and it isn’t going away.

As far as Princess Anne is concerned: she is the only one to whom I’ll give a pass. She is the patron of my royal college as well as the SRU, she sings FoS at our matches and she behaves as normally as anyone in that family can. Also, although personally I’m a republican, there are Indy supporters who don’t favour ditching the royals.

[Slick]

That’s because it is a really important issue to a whole lot of people.

My response to the SRU’s tweet (the toxic Twitter thread you mentioned, I’m guessing) currently has 276 likes, 36 retweets and one (1) negative reply. The ratio suggests this will not prove to be a popular move by the SRU. Rather like when the NTS employed Neil Oliver.

No, it would suggest to me that most people don’t give a fuck but it has been jumped on by the rabid mob.

I looked at the tweets of a few of those throwing away their decades long seasons tickets and strangely not one had managed to make a comment during the entire 6N

I’m assuming that when you say ‘the rabid mob’ you mean people who don’t share your political opinions. That’s understandable, to a degree. I felt exactly the same whenever I looked at the replies to anything Nicola Sturgeon ever tweeted. Even if it was about the book she was reading. However, you can’t just write off all dissenting voices as cranks. About 50% of Scotland supports independence, way higher than that in under 40s. This isn’t a fringe belief any more and it isn’t going away.

As far as Princess Anne is concerned: she is the only one to whom I’ll give a pass. She is the patron of my royal college as well as the SRU, she sings FoS at our matches and she behaves as normally as anyone in that family can. Also, although personally I’m a republican, there are Indy supporters who don’t favour ditching the royals.

No, by “rabid mob” I mean those that don’t give a fuck about the sport I love and are using this for their politics - ie the vast, vast majority that have commented on that Tweet. We are probably split 50/50 on here and seem to pretty easily separate our rugby and politics

[Slick]

Twitter is at most representative of the attitudes, opinions and ultimately actions of only a tiny subset of the population. Just because the Twitter mob have decided this is bad, do not expect any kind of similar reaction from the general public at large who possibly don’t care but most likely don’t and won’t ever know.

Would I have chosen her? Absolutely not. Do I think it’s a disgrace? No, I don’t. Ultimately do I care? Not really.

All of this

[Yr Alban]

I also haven’t seen many bonfires of season passes in the last 4 decades that well know anti British establishment figure Princess Anne has been Patron

What an incredibly silly comparison. I’m certainly no royalist but princess Anne is a non controversial, non (outwardly) political, pretty benign, relatively minor royal who has shown a love for Scottish rugby for decades. Personally, I’m neither up nor down about her involvement but she seems genuinely passionate so it’s fine by me… and I’m sure the vast majority.

Davidson, on the other hand is a sitting, non-elected member of the HoL who made a career out of being an angry, mouthy, divisive, SNP bad, anti-independence.. some would argue anti Scottish, politician for a party that gets roughly 25% of the vote, on a good day. Before running away to the HoL for her ermine and £350 a day before she was humiliated at the ballot box.

Ludicrous comparison.

Anti Scottish? Deary me.

Unionists are always primed to dismiss all pro-Indy feeling as ‘anti-English’. It’s the laziest of lazy thinking, but it’s always the first slur that comes to hand. But God forbid you describe someone like Ruth Davidson as anti-Scottish. After all, she’s only made her entire career out of denigrating and belittling Scotland every chance she gets, making out that it’s a basket case of a country that owes its entire existence to the benevolent embrace of the UK. Davidson’s country is the UK. She is a British Nationalist. She does not regard Scotland as a country in its own right. She has the right to hold that view, but describing her as anti-Scottish is a simple statement of fact.

[Yr Alban]

No, it would suggest to me that most people don’t give a fuck but it has been jumped on by the rabid mob.

I looked at the tweets of a few of those throwing away their decades long seasons tickets and strangely not one had managed to make a comment during the entire 6N

I’m assuming that when you say ‘the rabid mob’ you mean people who don’t share your political opinions. That’s understandable, to a degree. I felt exactly the same whenever I looked at the replies to anything Nicola Sturgeon ever tweeted. Even if it was about the book she was reading. However, you can’t just write off all dissenting voices as cranks. About 50% of Scotland supports independence, way higher than that in under 40s. This isn’t a fringe belief any more and it isn’t going away.

As far as Princess Anne is concerned: she is the only one to whom I’ll give a pass. She is the patron of my royal college as well as the SRU, she sings FoS at our matches and she behaves as normally as anyone in that family can. Also, although personally I’m a republican, there are Indy supporters who don’t favour ditching the royals.

No, by “rabid mob” I mean those that don’t give a fuck about the sport I love and are using this for their politics - ie the vast, vast majority that have commented on that Tweet. We are probably split 50/50 on here and seem to pretty easily separate our rugby and politics

Fine. You don’t want politics to affect rugby. I don’t either. Which is why I am so fucking furious that the SRU have appointed Ruth Davidson as a director. Like it or not, it is bringing politics in to a place none of us think it belongs.

[Slick]

I’m assuming that when you say ‘the rabid mob’ you mean people who don’t share your political opinions. That’s understandable, to a degree. I felt exactly the same whenever I looked at the replies to anything Nicola Sturgeon ever tweeted. Even if it was about the book she was reading. However, you can’t just write off all dissenting voices as cranks. About 50% of Scotland supports independence, way higher than that in under 40s. This isn’t a fringe belief any more and it isn’t going away.

As far as Princess Anne is concerned: she is the only one to whom I’ll give a pass. She is the patron of my royal college as well as the SRU, she sings FoS at our matches and she behaves as normally as anyone in that family can. Also, although personally I’m a republican, there are Indy supporters who don’t favour ditching the royals.

No, by “rabid mob” I mean those that don’t give a fuck about the sport I love and are using this for their politics - ie the vast, vast majority that have commented on that Tweet. We are probably split 50/50 on here and seem to pretty easily separate our rugby and politics

Fine. You don’t want politics to affect rugby. I don’t either. Which is why I am so fucking furious that the SRU have appointed Ruth Davidson as a director. Like it or not, it is bringing politics in to a place none of us think it belongs.

Fair enough

[KingBlairhorn]

I’m assuming that when you say ‘the rabid mob’ you mean people who don’t share your political opinions. That’s understandable, to a degree. I felt exactly the same whenever I looked at the replies to anything Nicola Sturgeon ever tweeted. Even if it was about the book she was reading. However, you can’t just write off all dissenting voices as cranks. About 50% of Scotland supports independence, way higher than that in under 40s. This isn’t a fringe belief any more and it isn’t going away.

As far as Princess Anne is concerned: she is the only one to whom I’ll give a pass. She is the patron of my royal college as well as the SRU, she sings FoS at our matches and she behaves as normally as anyone in that family can. Also, although personally I’m a republican, there are Indy supporters who don’t favour ditching the royals.

No, by “rabid mob” I mean those that don’t give a fuck about the sport I love and are using this for their politics - ie the vast, vast majority that have commented on that Tweet. We are probably split 50/50 on here and seem to pretty easily separate our rugby and politics

Fine. You don’t want politics to affect rugby. I don’t either. Which is why I am so fucking furious that the SRU have appointed Ruth Davidson as a director. Like it or not, it is bringing politics in to a place none of us think it belongs.

It may be semantics but it is very important semantics to point out she has been appointed as a Non-Executive Director, not a director. Completely different positions most notably because one is an employee and the other isn’t.

I would also point out that my personal politics are diametrically opposed to Slick’s. I would consider myself to be a pro-independence left leaning SNP/Green voting progressive. The reason I think Ruth was an interesting choice for the 4 or so days she’ll work per year is that she is a well connected gay woman who, despite her lack of success at the ballot box is still a very high profile and successful person. She is on first name terms with the entire UK and Scottish cabinet ffs and I understand she is actually a rugby fan.

[Yr Alban]

No, by “rabid mob” I mean those that don’t give a fuck about the sport I love and are using this for their politics - ie the vast, vast majority that have commented on that Tweet. We are probably split 50/50 on here and seem to pretty easily separate our rugby and politics

Fine. You don’t want politics to affect rugby. I don’t either. Which is why I am so fucking furious that the SRU have appointed Ruth Davidson as a director. Like it or not, it is bringing politics in to a place none of us think it belongs.

It may be semantics but it is very important semantics to point out she has been appointed as a Non-Executive Director, not a director. Completely different positions most notably because one is an employee and the other isn’t.

I would also point out that my personal politics are diametrically opposed to Slick’s. I would consider myself to be a pro-independence left leaning SNP/Green voting progressive. The reason I think Ruth was an interesting choice for the 4 or so days she’ll work per year is that she is a well connected gay woman who, despite her lack of success at the ballot box is still a very high profile and successful person. She is on first name terms with the entire UK and Scottish cabinet ffs and I understand she is actually a rugby fan.

Does this mean they won’t be paying her then? That would make me feel a bit better about it.

[weegie01]

Does this mean they won’t be paying her then? That would make me feel a bit better about it.

About £15k per annum.

[dkm57]

15K for 4 days work - how nice for her

[Big D]

No, by “rabid mob” I mean those that don’t give a fuck about the sport I love and are using this for their politics - ie the vast, vast majority that have commented on that Tweet. We are probably split 50/50 on here and seem to pretty easily separate our rugby and politics

Fine. You don’t want politics to affect rugby. I don’t either. Which is why I am so fucking furious that the SRU have appointed Ruth Davidson as a director. Like it or not, it is bringing politics in to a place none of us think it belongs.

It may be semantics but it is very important semantics to point out she has been appointed as a Non-Executive Director, not a director. Completely different positions most notably because one is an employee and the other isn’t.

I would also point out that my personal politics are diametrically opposed to Slick’s. I would consider myself to be a pro-independence left leaning SNP/Green voting progressive. The reason I think Ruth was an interesting choice for the 4 or so days she’ll work per year is that she is a well connected gay woman who, despite her lack of success at the ballot box is still a very high profile and successful person. She is on first name terms with the entire UK and Scottish cabinet ffs and I understand she is actually a rugby fan.

I suspect this is no more than an avoidable storm in a teacup, as it would be if a high ranking SNP official took on the role. I think most agree that it having an ex political leader as a NE director isn't the best choice, nor one most of us would make, but if people really are planning to stop going due to a political figure being appointed a NE director then they should give their head a wobble.

Most people couldn't name the current NE directors and whether they have a problem with them. The other SRU board NE directors are Ian Barr, David Grevemberg and Cheryl Black. If I remember correctly the plan was always for another two to be recruited as part of a governance shake up when Grevemberg and Black were appointed.

[westport]

Anyway. I hope the guys are enjoying their two weeks off before the next phase of beastings before the Italy match.

[clydecloggie]

Anyway. I hope the guys are enjoying their two weeks off before the next phase of beastings before the Italy match.

Stuart Hogg seen riding a horse in Jedburg today.

[Yr Alban]

Does this mean they won’t be paying her then? That would make me feel a bit better about it.

About £15k per annum.

So, as I said before, any money I now put into the SRU will be partly funding Ruth the Mooth’s sinecure. Which upsets me, and I won’t be alone. I’m not saying I won’t set foot in MF - I’m not that dramatic. But they won’t be selling me any merch any time soon.

[Tichtheid]

Looks like there is to be a league fixtures announcement next Tuesday - I would have posted this on the URC thread but I couldn't find it on the first three pages on the board.

[Jock42]

It appears as though Kiss has agreed terms with Queensland. Assume this means Embra will get Mooar after the RWC.

[Big D]

Anyway. I hope the guys are enjoying their two weeks off before the next phase of beastings before the Italy match.

Stuart Hogg seen riding a horse in Jedburg today.

Finn was at a wedding this weekend. Assume they're in between training blocks with the next one being the big block.

[mos_eisely_]

Stuart Hogg has announced his immediate retirement from rugby and won't be going to the RWC

https://scottishrugby.org/stuart-hogg-a ... rom-rugby/

[Big D]

Stuart Hogg has announced his immediate retirement from rugby and won't be going to the RWC

https://scottishrugby.org/stuart-hogg-a ... rom-rugby/

Such a shame to miss out on the world cup. His body must be fucked for him to miss it.

Legend. 100 caps, 3 lions tours, top Scots try scorer and was imo a good captain. We are going to miss him.

[sockwithaticket]

I saw some rumours posted on Reddit (yeah, I know...) that Toony was cosidering excluding him on a conduct basis. He'd been given leave from camp to go to the horse riding thing, but followed it with a 3 day bender allegedly. Also further mention of his propensity for cheating on his wife.

Some of you lads are relatively connected, any truth to it?

[KingBlairhorn]

I saw some rumours posted on Reddit (yeah, I know...) that Toony was cosidering excluding him on a conduct basis. He'd been given leave from camp to go to the horse riding thing, but followed it with a 3 day bender allegedly. Also further mention of his propensity for cheating on his wife.

Some of you lads are relatively connected, any truth to it?

I can’t say I have ever heard any rumours like that about hoggy, consummate professional is what I’ve always been told. He was a bit of a billy big balls when he was younger but that was more than 10 years ago now.

[KingBlairhorn]

What a career from Hoggy, one of if not the greatest ever Scotland player. Certainly the greatest of my lifetime. Part of me wonders if the move south to attritional rugby and lack of gametime management has deprived us of another 3-5 years of him in a Scotland shirt, but we’ll never know. Regardless, what a servant.

It’ll be interesting to see what comes next, but I think a move away from rugby is possible. I had heard some rumours about some form of stud farm/horse training business which would seem to be right up his street. Whatever he does next I hope it is a success.

[Big D]

What a career from Hoggy, one of if not the greatest ever Scotland player. Certainly the greatest of my lifetime. Part of me wonders if the move south to attritional rugby and lack of gametime management has deprived us of another 3-5 years of him in a Scotland shirt, but we’ll never know. Regardless, what a servant.

It’ll be interesting to see what comes next, but I think a move away from rugby is possible. I had heard some rumours about some form of stud farm/horse training business which would seem to be right up his street. Whatever he does next I hope it is a success.

Hogg never wanted a game off. His own worst enemy in that regard.

[KingBlairhorn]

Twitter is at most representative of the attitudes, opinions and ultimately actions of only a tiny subset of the population. Just because the Twitter mob have decided this is bad, do not expect any kind of similar reaction from the general public at large who possibly don’t care but most likely don’t and won’t ever know.

Would I have chosen her? Absolutely not. Do I think it’s a disgrace? No, I don’t. Ultimately do I care? Not really.

A great example of this in relation to Hogg’s retirement, some absolute moon howler is having a full on whinge that Dodson has commented on Hogg’s retirement to wish him all the best-apparently he is trying to steal the limelight or something. It’s been pointed out to him by someone it would be weird if Dodson hadn’t commented but he’s doubling down. Some people, especially on Twitter, are permaoffended weirdos.