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McConnochie has been quietly racking up the treis for Bath since the resumption. Will he still be in Eddie's plans?
You'd think so - previously he was a decent all rounder with a terrible try scoring record, and now he can't stop scoring. Looks like he's beefed up over the break, too.sockwithaticket wrote: ↑Sun Sep 13, 2020 2:25 pm McConnochie has been quietly racking up the treis for Bath since the resumption. Will he still be in Eddie's plans?
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Back 3 players for the 6 Nations were Daly, Furbank, May, Thorley and Watson.JM2K6 wrote: ↑Sun Sep 13, 2020 2:26 pmYou'd think so - previously he was a decent all rounder with a terrible try scoring record, and now he can't stop scoring. Looks like he's beefed up over the break, too.sockwithaticket wrote: ↑Sun Sep 13, 2020 2:25 pm McConnochie has been quietly racking up the treis for Bath since the resumption. Will he still be in Eddie's plans?
Think it's safe to say Furbank won't be retaining a spot.
If Nowell can come through the season run in without getting injured (fairly big if these days tbf), he'll get a spot. Do you reckon McConnochie's done enough to displace Thorley?
Dunno, it's a tossup. Thorley would be my preference but McConnochie has a bit more class to his game I think. Would just be a preference call by Eddie and I don't think it's an easy one to call.sockwithaticket wrote: ↑Sun Sep 13, 2020 2:33 pmBack 3 players for the 6 Nations were Daly, Furbank, May, Thorley and Watson.JM2K6 wrote: ↑Sun Sep 13, 2020 2:26 pmYou'd think so - previously he was a decent all rounder with a terrible try scoring record, and now he can't stop scoring. Looks like he's beefed up over the break, too.sockwithaticket wrote: ↑Sun Sep 13, 2020 2:25 pm McConnochie has been quietly racking up the treis for Bath since the resumption. Will he still be in Eddie's plans?
Think it's safe to say Furbank won't be retaining a spot.
If Nowell can come through the season run in without getting injured (fairly big if these days tbf), he'll get a spot. Do you reckon McConnochie's done enough to displace Thorley?
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Absolute howler from Yarde to gift Spencer his 2nd and Bath's 3rd. If Sale could get their shit together and deny Bath a 4th over the remaining 10 minutes, that's be great.
Weirdly when Radradra gets MOTM you ignore it and claim he's crap.
Malins was better than the rest of Bristol's 2nd XV, but has barely shown up for the firsts and needs to put a run together.
And no, Sinckler hasn't been shite.
JM2K6 wrote: ↑Sun Sep 13, 2020 4:28 pmWeirdly when Radradra gets MOTM you ignore it and claim he's crap.
Malins was better than the rest of Bristol's 2nd XV, but has barely shown up for the firsts and needs to put a run together.
And no, Sinckler hasn't been shite.
Where did I claim Radradra was crap?
You could argue with yourself fella.
p.s Sinckler has been bang average.
Apologies, you did of course claim he did nothing in matches where he had huge impact.
But hey, you feel free to continue your desperate attempts to make Saracens relevant - bigging up players for standing out in a reserve side, bragging about how good the players you've been forced to send out from the massively illegal squad are, talking up genuinely meaningless matches...
But hey, you feel free to continue your desperate attempts to make Saracens relevant - bigging up players for standing out in a reserve side, bragging about how good the players you've been forced to send out from the massively illegal squad are, talking up genuinely meaningless matches...
JM2K6 wrote: ↑Sun Sep 13, 2020 5:03 pm Apologies, you did of course claim he did nothing in matches where he had huge impact.
But hey, you feel free to continue your desperate attempts to make Saracens relevant - bigging up players for standing out in a reserve side, bragging about how good the players you've been forced to send out from the massively illegal squad are, talking up genuinely meaningless matches...
They're academy players. Like all the top Saracens players are. The ones who don't quite make the Saracens grade end up in the Quins first XV.
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There's no shame in beating an equivalent team, but come now, it's not like you just faced a side with Cowan-Dickie, the Simmonds brothers, Slade, Hogg, Ewers, Hill, Moon etc.
All the top Saracens playersKawazaki wrote: ↑Sun Sep 13, 2020 5:23 pmJM2K6 wrote: ↑Sun Sep 13, 2020 5:03 pm Apologies, you did of course claim he did nothing in matches where he had huge impact.
But hey, you feel free to continue your desperate attempts to make Saracens relevant - bigging up players for standing out in a reserve side, bragging about how good the players you've been forced to send out from the massively illegal squad are, talking up genuinely meaningless matches...
They're academy players. Like all the top Saracens players are. The ones who don't quite make the Saracens grade end up in the Quins first XV.
You just can't help yourself, can you? Mako (literally played for Bristol before joining Sarries 'academy'), Billy, Brad Barritt, Daly, Maitland, Koch, Wigglesworth... there's a decent crop of academy players, but it's disingenuous to claim it's "all the top Saracens players".
Not sure which Sarries are supposed to be in the Quins first XV. Presumably not Aaron "backup for Mike Brown" Morris.
edit: Oh, Nathan Earle - that's fair. 14 tries 37 appearances for Sarries as a kid, mind.
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The Vunipolas, Daly, Barritt, Koch? Notable contributions until recently from Skelton, Lozowski and Williams.Kawazaki wrote: ↑Sun Sep 13, 2020 5:23 pmJM2K6 wrote: ↑Sun Sep 13, 2020 5:03 pm Apologies, you did of course claim he did nothing in matches where he had huge impact.
But hey, you feel free to continue your desperate attempts to make Saracens relevant - bigging up players for standing out in a reserve side, bragging about how good the players you've been forced to send out from the massively illegal squad are, talking up genuinely meaningless matches...
They're academy players. Like all the top Saracens players are. The ones who don't quite make the Saracens grade end up in the Quins first XV.
I'm sure there's more if I could be bothered.
Exeter had a few players making their Premiership debuts today - and others getting some Premiership experience to go with their handful of other appearances. Certainly won't hurt them.sockwithaticket wrote: ↑Sun Sep 13, 2020 5:37 pmThere's no shame in beating an equivalent team, but come now, it's not like you just faced a side with Cowan-Dickie, the Simmonds brothers, Slade, Hogg, Ewers, Hill, Moon etc.
The most meaningless of meaningless matches: a 2nd XV of a relegated team vs a dregs XV of the league leaders who won't be caught, playing in a pandemic in front of even fewer fans than normal on a plastic pitch. Modern rugby, eh?
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Yep, that's why I corrected his post from just plain old Exeter.JM2K6 wrote: ↑Sun Sep 13, 2020 5:45 pmExeter had a few players making their Premiership debuts today - and others getting some Premiership experience to go with their handful of other appearances. Certainly won't hurt them.sockwithaticket wrote: ↑Sun Sep 13, 2020 5:37 pmThere's no shame in beating an equivalent team, but come now, it's not like you just faced a side with Cowan-Dickie, the Simmonds brothers, Slade, Hogg, Ewers, Hill, Moon etc.
The most meaningless of meaningless matches: a 2nd XV of a relegated team vs a dregs XV of the league leaders who won't be caught, playing in a pandemic in front of even fewer fans than normal on a plastic pitch. Modern rugby, eh?
To play around at the top and across two fronts it's necessary to manage resources from time to time. Since this game is being replayed next week between what will presumably as close to 1st choice selections as both sides can manage, today was a bit nothing burger.
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Which of ‘the best’ Bath players are ex-Sarries academy, then?
From who I can think of:
Watson - LI
Roko - British Army
Joseph - LI
Matevesi - Cornwall somewhere / Redpath - Sale
McConnochie - England 7s / Cockanasiga - LI
Priestland - Wales
Spencer - Cambridge
Obano - Bath
Dunn - Bath
Stuart - Wasps
Ewels - Bath
Stooke - Glaws
Mercer/Ellis/Bayliss - Bath
Underhill - Glaws/Wales
Faletau - Wales
From who I can think of:
Watson - LI
Roko - British Army
Joseph - LI
Matevesi - Cornwall somewhere / Redpath - Sale
McConnochie - England 7s / Cockanasiga - LI
Priestland - Wales
Spencer - Cambridge
Obano - Bath
Dunn - Bath
Stuart - Wasps
Ewels - Bath
Stooke - Glaws
Mercer/Ellis/Bayliss - Bath
Underhill - Glaws/Wales
Faletau - Wales
Mitchell, Biggar, Franks, Lawes, Ribbans, Ludlam, Harrison... All well known Sarries academy boys right?
Give a man a fire and he'll be warm for a day. Set a man on fire and he'll be warm for the rest of his life.
The best players you said. Isiekwe is just one. There's actually 2 other ex Sarries academyat Saints AFAik and they're not ripping up trees