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And we're now down to our 5th choice loosehead :problem:
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george bridge look alike is not that good...
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why has tigers not dumped Youngs yet? he has single handedly lost england and tigers more game than any other player..
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McConnochie has been quietly racking up the treis for Bath since the resumption. Will he still be in Eddie's plans?
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sockwithaticket wrote: Sun Sep 13, 2020 2:25 pm McConnochie has been quietly racking up the treis for Bath since the resumption. Will he still be in Eddie's plans?
You'd think so - previously he was a decent all rounder with a terrible try scoring record, and now he can't stop scoring. Looks like he's beefed up over the break, too.
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JM2K6 wrote: Sun Sep 13, 2020 2:26 pm
sockwithaticket wrote: Sun Sep 13, 2020 2:25 pm McConnochie has been quietly racking up the treis for Bath since the resumption. Will he still be in Eddie's plans?
You'd think so - previously he was a decent all rounder with a terrible try scoring record, and now he can't stop scoring. Looks like he's beefed up over the break, too.
Back 3 players for the 6 Nations were Daly, Furbank, May, Thorley and Watson.

Think it's safe to say Furbank won't be retaining a spot.

If Nowell can come through the season run in without getting injured (fairly big if these days tbf), he'll get a spot. Do you reckon McConnochie's done enough to displace Thorley?
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best prop try by the saints prop
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4 yellows in the game, 3 to tigers
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Paul Hill scores from the halfway line (almost), rounding Ben Youngs in the process.
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Bath v Sale is just dire. Such poor skill levels.
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sockwithaticket wrote: Sun Sep 13, 2020 2:33 pm
JM2K6 wrote: Sun Sep 13, 2020 2:26 pm
sockwithaticket wrote: Sun Sep 13, 2020 2:25 pm McConnochie has been quietly racking up the treis for Bath since the resumption. Will he still be in Eddie's plans?
You'd think so - previously he was a decent all rounder with a terrible try scoring record, and now he can't stop scoring. Looks like he's beefed up over the break, too.
Back 3 players for the 6 Nations were Daly, Furbank, May, Thorley and Watson.

Think it's safe to say Furbank won't be retaining a spot.

If Nowell can come through the season run in without getting injured (fairly big if these days tbf), he'll get a spot. Do you reckon McConnochie's done enough to displace Thorley?
Dunno, it's a tossup. Thorley would be my preference but McConnochie has a bit more class to his game I think. Would just be a preference call by Eddie and I don't think it's an easy one to call.
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Absolute howler from Yarde to gift Spencer his 2nd and Bath's 3rd. If Sale could get their shit together and deny Bath a 4th over the remaining 10 minutes, that's be great.
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Exeter will never win a European Cup. This one-out pick and go style when they get within 10m is criminally dull.
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The best players at Bath, Bristol and Northampton are all ex-Saracens academy.
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Ah yes, I remember the days of Nathan Huges, Semi Radradra, Charles Piutau, and Kyle Sinckler all tearing it up for Sarries acadamy
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JM2K6 wrote: Sun Sep 13, 2020 4:16 pm Ah yes, I remember the days of Nathan Huges, Semi Radradra, Charles Piutau, and Kyle Sinckler all tearing it up for Sarries acadamy
Earle has had two MoM games. Malins so much better than every other Bristol player today.

Sinckler has been shite for Bristol.
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Kawazaki wrote: Sun Sep 13, 2020 4:20 pm
JM2K6 wrote: Sun Sep 13, 2020 4:16 pm Ah yes, I remember the days of Nathan Huges, Semi Radradra, Charles Piutau, and Kyle Sinckler all tearing it up for Sarries acadamy
Earle has had two MoM games. Malins so much better than every other Bristol player today.

Sinckler has been shite for Bristol.
Weirdly when Radradra gets MOTM you ignore it and claim he's crap.

Malins was better than the rest of Bristol's 2nd XV, but has barely shown up for the firsts and needs to put a run together.

And no, Sinckler hasn't been shite.
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JM2K6 wrote: Sun Sep 13, 2020 4:28 pm
Kawazaki wrote: Sun Sep 13, 2020 4:20 pm
JM2K6 wrote: Sun Sep 13, 2020 4:16 pm Ah yes, I remember the days of Nathan Huges, Semi Radradra, Charles Piutau, and Kyle Sinckler all tearing it up for Sarries acadamy
Earle has had two MoM games. Malins so much better than every other Bristol player today.

Sinckler has been shite for Bristol.
Weirdly when Radradra gets MOTM you ignore it and claim he's crap.

Malins was better than the rest of Bristol's 2nd XV, but has barely shown up for the firsts and needs to put a run together.

And no, Sinckler hasn't been shite.


Where did I claim Radradra was crap?

You could argue with yourself fella.


p.s Sinckler has been bang average.
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Apologies, you did of course claim he did nothing in matches where he had huge impact.

But hey, you feel free to continue your desperate attempts to make Saracens relevant - bigging up players for standing out in a reserve side, bragging about how good the players you've been forced to send out from the massively illegal squad are, talking up genuinely meaningless matches...
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JM2K6 wrote: Sun Sep 13, 2020 5:03 pm Apologies, you did of course claim he did nothing in matches where he had huge impact.

But hey, you feel free to continue your desperate attempts to make Saracens relevant - bigging up players for standing out in a reserve side, bragging about how good the players you've been forced to send out from the massively illegal squad are, talking up genuinely meaningless matches...

They're academy players. Like all the top Saracens players are. The ones who don't quite make the Saracens grade end up in the Quins first XV.
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Wow, Saracens 2nd/3rd team just wiped the floor with Exeter. Manshamed, sans lube.

:thumbup:
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Kawazaki wrote: Sun Sep 13, 2020 4:10 pm The best players at Bath, Bristol and Northampton are all ex-Saracens academy.
Spencer’s been great thanks :thumbup: He’s not Sarries academy though (and nor is anyone else in the Bath team that I can think of).

The best Bath players tend to be ex-LI academy.
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Kawazaki wrote: Sun Sep 13, 2020 5:25 pm Wow, Saracens 2nd/3rd team just wiped the floor with Exeter 3rds/Colts. Manshamed, sans lube.

:thumbup:
There's no shame in beating an equivalent team, but come now, it's not like you just faced a side with Cowan-Dickie, the Simmonds brothers, Slade, Hogg, Ewers, Hill, Moon etc.
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Kawazaki wrote: Sun Sep 13, 2020 5:23 pm
JM2K6 wrote: Sun Sep 13, 2020 5:03 pm Apologies, you did of course claim he did nothing in matches where he had huge impact.

But hey, you feel free to continue your desperate attempts to make Saracens relevant - bigging up players for standing out in a reserve side, bragging about how good the players you've been forced to send out from the massively illegal squad are, talking up genuinely meaningless matches...

They're academy players. Like all the top Saracens players are. The ones who don't quite make the Saracens grade end up in the Quins first XV.
All the top Saracens players :crazy:

You just can't help yourself, can you? Mako (literally played for Bristol before joining Sarries 'academy'), Billy, Brad Barritt, Daly, Maitland, Koch, Wigglesworth... there's a decent crop of academy players, but it's disingenuous to claim it's "all the top Saracens players".

Not sure which Sarries are supposed to be in the Quins first XV. Presumably not Aaron "backup for Mike Brown" Morris.

edit: Oh, Nathan Earle - that's fair. 14 tries 37 appearances for Sarries as a kid, mind.
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Kawazaki wrote: Sun Sep 13, 2020 5:23 pm
JM2K6 wrote: Sun Sep 13, 2020 5:03 pm Apologies, you did of course claim he did nothing in matches where he had huge impact.

But hey, you feel free to continue your desperate attempts to make Saracens relevant - bigging up players for standing out in a reserve side, bragging about how good the players you've been forced to send out from the massively illegal squad are, talking up genuinely meaningless matches...

They're academy players. Like all the top Saracens players are. The ones who don't quite make the Saracens grade end up in the Quins first XV.
The Vunipolas, Daly, Barritt, Koch? Notable contributions until recently from Skelton, Lozowski and Williams.

I'm sure there's more if I could be bothered.
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sockwithaticket wrote: Sun Sep 13, 2020 5:37 pm
Kawazaki wrote: Sun Sep 13, 2020 5:25 pm Wow, Saracens 2nd/3rd team just wiped the floor with Exeter 3rds/Colts. Manshamed, sans lube.

:thumbup:
There's no shame in beating an equivalent team, but come now, it's not like you just faced a side with Cowan-Dickie, the Simmonds brothers, Slade, Hogg, Ewers, Hill, Moon etc.
Exeter had a few players making their Premiership debuts today - and others getting some Premiership experience to go with their handful of other appearances. Certainly won't hurt them.

The most meaningless of meaningless matches: a 2nd XV of a relegated team vs a dregs XV of the league leaders who won't be caught, playing in a pandemic in front of even fewer fans than normal on a plastic pitch. Modern rugby, eh?
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JM2K6 wrote: Sun Sep 13, 2020 5:45 pm
sockwithaticket wrote: Sun Sep 13, 2020 5:37 pm
Kawazaki wrote: Sun Sep 13, 2020 5:25 pm Wow, Saracens 2nd/3rd team just wiped the floor with Exeter 3rds/Colts. Manshamed, sans lube.

:thumbup:
There's no shame in beating an equivalent team, but come now, it's not like you just faced a side with Cowan-Dickie, the Simmonds brothers, Slade, Hogg, Ewers, Hill, Moon etc.
Exeter had a few players making their Premiership debuts today - and others getting some Premiership experience to go with their handful of other appearances. Certainly won't hurt them.

The most meaningless of meaningless matches: a 2nd XV of a relegated team vs a dregs XV of the league leaders who won't be caught, playing in a pandemic in front of even fewer fans than normal on a plastic pitch. Modern rugby, eh?
Yep, that's why I corrected his post from just plain old Exeter.

To play around at the top and across two fronts it's necessary to manage resources from time to time. Since this game is being replayed next week between what will presumably as close to 1st choice selections as both sides can manage, today was a bit nothing burger.
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Joost wrote: Sun Sep 13, 2020 5:33 pm
Kawazaki wrote: Sun Sep 13, 2020 4:10 pm The best players at Bath, Bristol and Northampton are all ex-Saracens academy.
Spencer’s been great thanks :thumbup: He’s not Sarries academy though (and nor is anyone else in the Bath team that I can think of).

The best Bath players tend to be ex-LI academy.
In your face Toga!
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Joost wrote: Sun Sep 13, 2020 5:33 pm

The best Bath players tend to be ex-LI academy.

Not any more! :clap:
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Which of ‘the best’ Bath players are ex-Sarries academy, then?

From who I can think of:

Watson - LI
Roko - British Army
Joseph - LI
Matevesi - Cornwall somewhere / Redpath - Sale
McConnochie - England 7s / Cockanasiga - LI
Priestland - Wales
Spencer - Cambridge

Obano - Bath
Dunn - Bath
Stuart - Wasps
Ewels - Bath
Stooke - Glaws
Mercer/Ellis/Bayliss - Bath
Underhill - Glaws/Wales
Faletau - Wales
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Don’t spoil the narrative Joost, Spencer is the sole reason Bath are top 4 at the moment, conveniently ignoring that the forwards are putting in the hard yards.
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Spencer had transformed the team.

You're very lucky to get him.
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He’s an excellent scrum half but I think Neil Hatley deserves at least as much credit in transforming the forwards.
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Obano was with Wasps first I believe?
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Kawazaki wrote: Sun Sep 13, 2020 4:10 pm The best players at Bath, Bristol and Northampton are all ex-Saracens academy.
This should be good.........
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Saint wrote: Sun Sep 13, 2020 7:19 pm
Kawazaki wrote: Sun Sep 13, 2020 4:10 pm The best players at Bath, Bristol and Northampton are all ex-Saracens academy.
This should be good.........
Mitchell, Biggar, Franks, Lawes, Ribbans, Ludlam, Harrison... All well known Sarries academy boys right?
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Raggs wrote: Sun Sep 13, 2020 7:26 pm
Saint wrote: Sun Sep 13, 2020 7:19 pm
Kawazaki wrote: Sun Sep 13, 2020 4:10 pm The best players at Bath, Bristol and Northampton are all ex-Saracens academy.
This should be good.........
Mitchell, Biggar, Franks, Lawes, Ribbans, Ludlam, Harrison... All well known Sarries academy boys right?

Isiekwe
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Kawazaki wrote: Sun Sep 13, 2020 7:31 pm
Raggs wrote: Sun Sep 13, 2020 7:26 pm
Saint wrote: Sun Sep 13, 2020 7:19 pm

This should be good.........
Mitchell, Biggar, Franks, Lawes, Ribbans, Ludlam, Harrison... All well known Sarries academy boys right?

Isiekwe
The best players you said. Isiekwe is just one. There's actually 2 other ex Sarries academyat Saints AFAik and they're not ripping up trees
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Saint wrote: Sun Sep 13, 2020 9:12 pm
Kawazaki wrote: Sun Sep 13, 2020 7:31 pm
Raggs wrote: Sun Sep 13, 2020 7:26 pm

Mitchell, Biggar, Franks, Lawes, Ribbans, Ludlam, Harrison... All well known Sarries academy boys right?

Isiekwe
The best players you said. Isiekwe is just one. There's actually 2 other ex Sarries academyat Saints AFAik and they're not ripping up trees

Yes, I wrote "The best players at Bath, Bristol and Northampton are all ex-Saracens academy".

HTH
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