Wales v England I

[PCPhil]

That had a feel of an end of season Barbarians match.......without any of the skills

[Margin__Walker]

Awful match, 2 shit teams and a bizarre refereeing performance.

This bunker is nonsense, just an excuse for refs to cop out of decisions. The ref had all the angles and didn't call a shoulder to the head as red.

If the right decision is reached more often and the viewers don't have to sit through 5 minutes of deliberations, I really don't see the problem.

[PCPhil]

Awful match, 2 shit teams and a bizarre refereeing performance.

This bunker is nonsense, just an excuse for refs to cop out of decisions. The ref had all the angles and didn't call a shoulder to the head as red.

If the right decision is reached more often and the viewers don't have to sit through 5 minutes of deliberations, I really don't see the problem.

Agree

[ASMO]

Done with England, dont care anymore...

[I like neeps]

Farrell must've done the training course to get the week off his ban so many times he may as well be the trainer.

[Ymx]

Awful match, 2 shit teams and a bizarre refereeing performance.

This bunker is nonsense, just an excuse for refs to cop out of decisions. The ref had all the angles and didn't call a shoulder to the head as red.

If the right decision is reached more often and the viewers don't have to sit through 5 minutes of deliberations, I really don't see the problem.

Agree

The correct decision was made. The game just cracked on. The crowd baying influence was not there.

The system worked and works well.

[Slick]

Awful match, 2 shit teams and a bizarre refereeing performance.

This bunker is nonsense, just an excuse for refs to cop out of decisions. The ref had all the angles and didn't call a shoulder to the head as red.

If the right decision is reached more often and the viewers don't have to sit through 5 minutes of deliberations, I really don't see the problem.

Agree

Yup. Slightly bizarre thing to be moaning about

[Ymx]

Rugby World Cups almost never go to script, but these teams looked like semi final / quarter final fodder.

[Slick]

Farrell must've done the training course to get the week off his ban so many times he may as well be the trainer.

Just seen someone saying you only get one shot at that

[tc27]

Wales effectively scoring 0 against 12 England players

[fishfoodie]

Did they just say England are playing Ireland next week

Please god Ire put out your 1st team.

Nah, U20s team ought to be able to do the business, & that way we don't pick up any bans, or lose anyone to injury

[Torquemada 1420]

Wales effectively scoring 0 against 12 England players

Where's J2M? I pointed out to him last week that modern players are so over coached that practically no team has the ability to play what's in front of it. France the same last week.

[Torquemada 1420]

Farrell must've done the training course to get the week off his ban so many times he may as well be the trainer.

Just seen someone saying you only get one shot at that

They'll find some loophole. Always do.

[Sandstorm]

Wales effectively scoring 0 against 12 England players

Stormers scored nothing in 2nd half against 13 L Irish players back in January. Red cards do funny things to teams.

[Stranger]

The shame is that due to the draw there is every chance one of these two will make a WC semi final

[sockwithaticket]

Farrell must've done the training course to get the week off his ban so many times he may as well be the trainer.

It's actually quite a recent thing, it wasn't available for 2 of his previous bans, the most recent of which was 2020, so he did it for the first time this year.

[salanya]

Awful match, 2 shit teams and a bizarre refereeing performance.

This bunker is nonsense, just an excuse for refs to cop out of decisions. The ref had all the angles and didn't call a shoulder to the head as red.

If the right decision is reached more often and the viewers don't have to sit through 5 minutes of deliberations, I really don't see the problem.

The ref still looked at footage for 2 minutes, and then made the wrong call .

My problem isn't the bunker as such, it's how the refs change their decisions on it, only for them to be altered a few minutes later, affecting the game.

In fairness, this was probably not the game of rugby to judge it on. And my frustration was mainly with Farrell and the referee dodging the red card decision.

[Torquemada 1420]

In fairness, this was probably not the game of rugby to judge it on. And my frustration was mainly with Farrell and the referee dodging the red card decision.

What irritates me is how the English always talk of it in terms of "Farrell's tackle technique" in an attempt to diminish the simple fact that he's a cheap thug. He's not trying to tackle at all. Kawazaki will be on to defend him with similar washing attempts.

[JM2K6]

Wales effectively scoring 0 against 12 England players

Where's J2M? I pointed out to him last week that modern players are so over coached that practically no team has the ability to play what's in front of it. France the same last week.

Hey I wonder if you noticed which two teams I excluded

[Torquemada 1420]

Wales effectively scoring 0 against 12 England players

Where's J2M? I pointed out to him last week that modern players are so over coached that practically no team has the ability to play what's in front of it. France the same last week.

Hey I wonder if you noticed which two teams I excluded

Throw in Fra and every team that has had a major man advantage this series has f**ked it up.

[tc27]

English rugby journos inevitably all pushing the line its a disaster that Farrel may miss a game.

[Line6 HXFX]

Wales will be happy. Earls (angerland number 7) was right, no fucker plays well against Wales.
Wales have two goals during the match....stay close to you up until about sixty...then steal the win.
Opposition must shit themselves when Wales are within a few points of them after 60, and after thinking they have been dominant.

OK it didn't work today..but it was all going to plan nicely.

It would be easier to forgive Farnell, if he didn't do that contact with such fucking anger and hatred in his soul.

[JM2K6]

Where's J2M? I pointed out to him last week that modern players are so over coached that practically no team has the ability to play what's in front of it. France the same last week.

Hey I wonder if you noticed which two teams I excluded

Throw in Fra and every team that has had a major man advantage this series has f**ked it up.

It's never that straightforward but if you are trying to make out that France don't play heads up rugby then I think you might be in the minority.

[JM2K6]

English rugby journos inevitably all pushing the line its a disaster that Farrel may miss a game.

All the preparation has been for Farrell to start at 10 and be England's attack leader, defence leader, and captain. Regardless of your opinion of him, it's a big disruption

[salanya]

In fairness, this was probably not the game of rugby to judge it on. And my frustration was mainly with Farrell and the referee dodging the red card decision.

What irritates me is how the English always talk of it in terms of "Farrell's tackle technique" in an attempt to diminish the simple fact that he's a cheap thug. He's not trying to tackle at all. Kawazaki will be on to defend him with similar washing attempts.

They even said he's not a dirty player, but how many cards/bans do you need to have to earn that description?

I don't think he's a thug, but his reckless defence so often hits players in the head, and he has made little effort to sort this.
No more mitigations in his disciplinary hearings please. (Which might not even harm England)

[tc27]

English rugby journos inevitably all pushing the line its a disaster that Farrel may miss a game.

All the preparation has been for Farrell to start at 10 and be England's attack leader, defence leader, and captain. Regardless of your opinion of him, it's a big disruption

Yes fair point.

[JM2K6]

Yeah, it's hard to argue it's not a cheap shot. It might not be, but there's just no defence.

[Sandstorm]

With Farrell’s recent record, he should get at least 12 weeks off. Because it’s Farrell and RWC time, I expect he’ll get 3.

Jokeshop.

[Biffer]

In fairness, this was probably not the game of rugby to judge it on. And my frustration was mainly with Farrell and the referee dodging the red card decision.

What irritates me is how the English always talk of it in terms of "Farrell's tackle technique" in an attempt to diminish the simple fact that he's a cheap thug. He's not trying to tackle at all. Kawazaki will be on to defend him with similar washing attempts.

They even said he's not a dirty player, but how many cards/bans do you need to have to earn that description?

I don't think he's a thug, but his reckless defence so often hits players in the head, and he has made little effort to sort this.
No more mitigations in his disciplinary hearings please. (Which might not even harm England)

I think he's dirty. He's never put any serious work into changing his approach, as is pretty obvious. Not putting work into an area where you need to make I provement is deliberate.

[JM2K6]

With Farrell’s recent record, he should get at least 12 weeks off. Because it’s Farrell and RWC time, I expect he’ll get 3.

Jokeshop.

Don't be silly. When was the last time anyone copped a ban that long for an illegal tackle?'

[Rhubarb & Custard]

English rugby journos inevitably all pushing the line its a disaster that Farrel may miss a game.

All the preparation has been for Farrell to start at 10 and be England's attack leader, defence leader, and captain. Regardless of your opinion of him, it's a big disruption

You'd have to wonder how much scope there is to cause disruption, it's not like anything looks joined up as things stand

I don't actually know if any of his previous is pertinent. He's likely looking at 3 matches stood down, 4-5 if his previous comes in

[Sandstorm]

With Farrell’s recent record, he should get at least 12 weeks off. Because it’s Farrell and RWC time, I expect he’ll get 3.

Jokeshop.

Don't be silly. When was the last time anyone copped a ban that long for an illegal tackle?'

I didn’t claim this tackle deserved 12 weeks. I said Farrell deserved 12 for recent, repeated infringement.

[Line6 HXFX]

You would think if your best mate in the world had contracted Motor Neurons from idiots dishing out dangerous and illegal tackles and impacts precisely like that, Kevin sinfield would simply refuse to work with them.

Am I giving rugby players and coaches too much credit?

[JM2K6]

With Farrell’s recent record, he should get at least 12 weeks off. Because it’s Farrell and RWC time, I expect he’ll get 3.

Jokeshop.

Don't be silly. When was the last time anyone copped a ban that long for an illegal tackle?'

I didn’t claim this tackle deserved 12 weeks. I said Farrell deserved 12 for recent, repeated infringement.

Yes, I know. There are other recidivists. So, when have you seen it?

[sockwithaticket]

English rugby journos inevitably all pushing the line its a disaster that Farrel may miss a game.

All the preparation has been for Farrell to start at 10 and be England's attack leader, defence leader, and captain. Regardless of your opinion of him, it's a big disruption

You'd have to wonder how much scope there is to cause disruption, it's not like anything looks joined up as things stand

I don't actually know if any of his previous is pertinent. He's likely looking at 3 matches stood down, 4-5 if his previous comes in

His 2020 decapitation of Charlie Atkinson was acknowledged in the judgement for his ban earlier this year and saw the Repeat Offender box on the judgement infographic ticked. That's why he only got two weeks knocked off his 6 weeks for contrition and good conduct at the hearing (:roll: )instead of having the ban halved as seems to be the norm when a player manages to say sorry instead of 'fuck you, I'd do it again'. An extra week was then taken off for the tackle intervention course as it wasn't an option back in 2020.

[Biffer]

All the preparation has been for Farrell to start at 10 and be England's attack leader, defence leader, and captain. Regardless of your opinion of him, it's a big disruption

You'd have to wonder how much scope there is to cause disruption, it's not like anything looks joined up as things stand

I don't actually know if any of his previous is pertinent. He's likely looking at 3 matches stood down, 4-5 if his previous comes in

His 2020 decapitation of Charlie Atkinson was acknowledged in the judgement for his ban earlier this year and saw the Repeat Offender box on the judgement infographic ticked. That's why he only got two weeks knocked off his 6 weeks for contrition and good conduct at the hearing (:roll: )instead of having the ban halved as seems to be the norm when a player manages to say sorry instead of 'fuck you, I'd do it again'. An extra week was then taken off for the tackle intervention course as it wasn't an option back in 2020.

So he's looking at 5 - they'll knock one off for being nice at the hearing (although Zander has raised the game with the tunnocks tea cakes) and he can't do the training course again so soon.

[Rhubarb & Custard]

All the preparation has been for Farrell to start at 10 and be England's attack leader, defence leader, and captain. Regardless of your opinion of him, it's a big disruption

You'd have to wonder how much scope there is to cause disruption, it's not like anything looks joined up as things stand

I don't actually know if any of his previous is pertinent. He's likely looking at 3 matches stood down, 4-5 if his previous comes in

His 2020 decapitation of Charlie Atkinson was acknowledged in the judgement for his ban earlier this year and saw the Repeat Offender box on the judgement infographic ticked. That's why he only got two weeks knocked off his 6 weeks for contrition and good conduct at the hearing (:roll: )instead of having the ban halved as seems to be the norm when a player manages to say sorry instead of 'fuck you, I'd do it again'. An extra week was then taken off for the tackle intervention course as it wasn't an option back in 2020.

What was the one earlier this year for? And is the Atkinson one still live as it were?

[sockwithaticket]

You'd have to wonder how much scope there is to cause disruption, it's not like anything looks joined up as things stand

I don't actually know if any of his previous is pertinent. He's likely looking at 3 matches stood down, 4-5 if his previous comes in

His 2020 decapitation of Charlie Atkinson was acknowledged in the judgement for his ban earlier this year and saw the Repeat Offender box on the judgement infographic ticked. That's why he only got two weeks knocked off his 6 weeks for contrition and good conduct at the hearing (:roll: )instead of having the ban halved as seems to be the norm when a player manages to say sorry instead of 'fuck you, I'd do it again'. An extra week was then taken off for the tackle intervention course as it wasn't an option back in 2020.

What was the one earlier this year for? And is the Atkinson one still live as it were?

Shoulder to the jaw


If they considered the Atkinson ban in the judgement earlier this year, I'm not sure why it would be discounted several months on.

[Rhubarb & Custard]

His 2020 decapitation of Charlie Atkinson was acknowledged in the judgement for his ban earlier this year and saw the Repeat Offender box on the judgement infographic ticked. That's why he only got two weeks knocked off his 6 weeks for contrition and good conduct at the hearing (:roll: )instead of having the ban halved as seems to be the norm when a player manages to say sorry instead of 'fuck you, I'd do it again'. An extra week was then taken off for the tackle intervention course as it wasn't an option back in 2020.

What was the one earlier this year for? And is the Atkinson one still live as it were?

Shoulder to the jaw


If they considered the Atkinson ban in the judgement earlier this year, I'm not sure why it would be discounted several months on.

They do lapse at some point, I simply forget when. But the shoulder to the jaw is you'd think similar enough it's relevant as previous, so no discount and then can they avoid adding on extras?

Often a mistake to consider there might be consistency in disciplinary hearings of course.

[TB63]

Done with England, dont care anymore...

Gis a cwtch, brawd...