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Err, Marge, you should learn to read and not try to score points..













Just trying to find what the Drump had said about this horrific sequence of events that have happened on Hawaii...

Oh, nothing....
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This is only the fourth time in history that a former president has been indicted.
So just calm the fuck down!
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Who's been indicted:

Donald Trump, former US president

Rudy Giuliani, Trump lawyer

Mark Meadows, White House chief of staff

John Eastman, Trump lawyer

Kenneth Chesebro, pro-Trump lawyer

Jeffrey Clark, top Justice Department official

Jenna Ellis, Trump campaign lawyer

Robert Cheeley, lawyer who promoted fraud claims

Mike Roman, Trump campaign official

David Shafer, Georgia GOP chair and fake elector

Shawn Still, fake GOP elector

Stephen Lee, pastor tied to intimidation of election workers

Harrison Floyd, leader of Black Voices for Trump

Trevian Kutti, publicist tied to intimidation of election workers

Sidney Powell, Trump campaign lawyer

Cathy Latham, fake GOP elector tied to Coffee County breach

Scott Hall, tied to Coffee County election system breach

Misty Hampton, Coffee County elections supervisor

Ray Smith, Trump campaign attorney

RICO Charges. OG mobster charge...
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Sounds like they need Farrells legal team
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No sign of Don Jr, Eric or his daughter slash sex toy Ivanka being charged.
And are there two g’s in Bugger Off?
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Biffer wrote: Tue Aug 15, 2023 10:05 pm No sign of Don Jr, Eric or his daughter slash sex toy Ivanka being charged.
They were worse than useless in terms of getting anything actually done.
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Ok, it's all over, nothing to see here folks, drop the charges..
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A Large, Complex, Detailed but Irrefutable REPORT on the Presidential Election Fraud which took place in Georgia is almost complete & will be presented by me at a major News Conference at 11:00 A.M. on Monday of next week in Bedminster, New Jersey. Based on the results of this CONCLUSIVE Report, all charges should be dropped against me & others - There will be a complete EXONERATION! They never went after those that Rigged the Election. They only went after those that fought to find the RIGGERS!
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Who the feck red-pilled Russell Brand? ha ha

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It's insightful to see the rag that the Torygraph has become, publish such an bullshit article as this.

Take notice Britishers, the Tory rags are normalizing stealing Elections !!!
The Georgia prosecutor who indicted Donald Trump and 18 co-defendants – yes, she indicted them, the grand jury merely rubber-stamped – has said she will try to bring the case to trial within six months. I have been practicing criminal law for 60 years, I have never seen a trial with 19 defendants, a 90-plus page indictment and this degree of complexity brought to trial in anywhere close to six months. It simply can’t happen.

Why then did she begin this case, which is about lying, by misleading the American people? Because to her, this case seems entirely political. Is she using it to run for office, or is she bringing it to garner favor with other Democrats?

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https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2023/0 ... -election/

It's sad to see a lawyer like Dershowitz, who is held in high esteem by many, turn into a partisan hack.

He has 60 years of experience, & I have none, but even I with zero experience was able to inform myself that such a legal action was liable for the accused demanding a "Speedy Trial" action, so that they might clear any stain on their reputation; & so the prosecution has to be able to go to trial within, not six months, but 60 days, or have the Judge dismiss the charges with jeopardy attached !!!

https://www.georgiacriminallawyer.com/d ... dy-trial-2

This article is a tissue of lies & misrepresentations, & is published without question in a newspaper that pretends to be a serious publisher.
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fishfoodie wrote: Wed Aug 16, 2023 11:39 pm It's insightful to see the rag that the Torygraph has become, publish such an bullshit article as this.

Take notice Britishers, the Tory rags are normalizing stealing Elections !!!
The Georgia prosecutor who indicted Donald Trump and 18 co-defendants – yes, she indicted them, the grand jury merely rubber-stamped – has said she will try to bring the case to trial within six months. I have been practicing criminal law for 60 years, I have never seen a trial with 19 defendants, a 90-plus page indictment and this degree of complexity brought to trial in anywhere close to six months. It simply can’t happen.

Why then did she begin this case, which is about lying, by misleading the American people? Because to her, this case seems entirely political. Is she using it to run for office, or is she bringing it to garner favor with other Democrats?

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https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2023/0 ... -election/

It's sad to see a lawyer like Dershowitz, who is held in high esteem by many, turn into a partisan hack.

He has 60 years of experience, & I have none, but even I with zero experience was able to inform myself that such a legal action was liable for the accused demanding a "Speedy Trial" action, so that they might clear any stain on their reputation; & so the prosecution has to be able to go to trial within, not six months, but 60 days, or have the Judge dismiss the charges with jeopardy attached !!!

https://www.georgiacriminallawyer.com/d ... dy-trial-2

This article is a tissue of lies & misrepresentations, & is published without question in a newspaper that pretends to be a serious publisher.
Yeah. It's a basic human right that you should receive a trial as soon as possible. She should be getting applauded not derided.
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A speedy trial comes with benefits. But if there is simply a huge amount of work to do it would also seem fair to go to the judge and say you need a delay.

I'd be happier if the side saying they needed a delay could be trusted to state there's a lot of work they need to do, and could be trusted to do it rather than book media interviews generally swan around and then seek further delay.

I might wonder how much any of this can be a surprise, but I guess it's only ever fair to start the clock ticking with an indictment
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Rudy almost certainly has one of if not the easiest case to prove against him in GA. And he's old so he could well die in jail, which is a nice thought if nothing else.
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Rhubarb & Custard wrote: Thu Aug 17, 2023 3:00 pm Rudy almost certainly has one of if not the easiest case to prove against him in GA. And he's old so he could well die in jail, which is a nice thought if nothing else.
He might be better off in prison, with free room & board.

He's being sued by his ex, the his ex-assistant/hooker, & two voting machine companies. In a years time he won't have a pot to piss in, or a window to throw it out of.
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fishfoodie wrote: Thu Aug 17, 2023 3:15 pm
Rhubarb & Custard wrote: Thu Aug 17, 2023 3:00 pm Rudy almost certainly has one of if not the easiest case to prove against him in GA. And he's old so he could well die in jail, which is a nice thought if nothing else.
He might be better off in prison, with free room & board.

He's being sued by his ex, the his ex-assistant/hooker, & two voting machine companies. In a years time he won't have a pot to piss in, or a window to throw it out of.
You say that, but the world doesn't exactly seem stacked against rich white men who commit fraud . Not even ones who marry their cousin
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Rhubarb & Custard wrote: Thu Aug 17, 2023 9:26 pm
fishfoodie wrote: Thu Aug 17, 2023 3:15 pm
Rhubarb & Custard wrote: Thu Aug 17, 2023 3:00 pm Rudy almost certainly has one of if not the easiest case to prove against him in GA. And he's old so he could well die in jail, which is a nice thought if nothing else.
He might be better off in prison, with free room & board.

He's being sued by his ex, the his ex-assistant/hooker, & two voting machine companies. In a years time he won't have a pot to piss in, or a window to throw it out of.
You say that, but the world doesn't exactly seem stacked against rich white men who commit fraud . Not even ones who marry their cousin
If the rich white man has the intelligence of lobotomized slug, then they have an excellent chance, but Rudy hasn't crawled out of the bottle in years, & hitched his wagon to a scrote like the orange traitor, who'll throw anyone, & anything under the bus, rather than risk losing a cent.

Rudy is exactly where he deserves to be, being who he is, & making the decisions he did.
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TB63 wrote: Wed Aug 16, 2023 7:37 am Ok, it's all over, nothing to see here folks, drop the charges..
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A Large, Complex, Detailed but Irrefutable REPORT on the Presidential Election Fraud which took place in Georgia is almost complete & will be presented by me at a major News Conference at 11:00 A.M. on Monday of next week in Bedminster, New Jersey. Based on the results of this CONCLUSIVE Report, all charges should be dropped against me & others - There will be a complete EXONERATION! They never went after those that Rigged the Election. They only went after those that fought to find the RIGGERS!
Aaaasw, he's cancelled it...

But has asked for a trial date..April 2026...that's not a typo...
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TB63 wrote: Wed Aug 16, 2023 7:37 am Ok, it's all over, nothing to see here folks, drop the charges..
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A Large, Complex, Detailed but Irrefutable REPORT on the Presidential Election Fraud which took place in Georgia is almost complete & will be presented by me at a major News Conference at 11:00 A.M. on Monday of next week in Bedminster, New Jersey. Based on the results of this CONCLUSIVE Report, all charges should be dropped against me & others - There will be a complete EXONERATION! They never went after those that Rigged the Election. They only went after those that fought to find the RIGGERS!
I guess he will be releasing the irrefutable report along with his health care plan....in about 2 weeks I'd say.
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Thor Sedan wrote: Fri Aug 18, 2023 8:08 am I guess he will be releasing the irrefutable report along with his health care plan....in about 2 weeks I'd say.
and his tax return :wink:
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TB63 wrote: Fri Aug 18, 2023 8:06 am
TB63 wrote: Wed Aug 16, 2023 7:37 am Ok, it's all over, nothing to see here folks, drop the charges..
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A Large, Complex, Detailed but Irrefutable REPORT on the Presidential Election Fraud which took place in Georgia is almost complete & will be presented by me at a major News Conference at 11:00 A.M. on Monday of next week in Bedminster, New Jersey. Based on the results of this CONCLUSIVE Report, all charges should be dropped against me & others - There will be a complete EXONERATION! They never went after those that Rigged the Election. They only went after those that fought to find the RIGGERS!
Aaaasw, he's cancelled it...

But has asked for a trial date..April 2026...that's not a typo...
He's cancelled the CONCLUSIVE Report presentation? Really? :lol:
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Slick wrote: Fri Aug 18, 2023 8:37 am
TB63 wrote: Fri Aug 18, 2023 8:06 am
TB63 wrote: Wed Aug 16, 2023 7:37 am Ok, it's all over, nothing to see here folks, drop the charges..

Aaaasw, he's cancelled it...

But has asked for a trial date..April 2026...that's not a typo...
He's cancelled the CONCLUSIVE Report presentation? Really? :lol:
He was probably a little pissed when Rupert told him F*x wouldn't be able to cover it, because you know, defamation
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Insane_Homer wrote: Fri Aug 18, 2023 8:30 am
Thor Sedan wrote: Fri Aug 18, 2023 8:08 am I guess he will be releasing the irrefutable report along with his health care plan....in about 2 weeks I'd say.
and his tax return :wink:
And all those major infrastructure improvements he promised.
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Rather than releasing the Report on the Rigged & Stolen Georgia 2020 Presidential Election on Monday, my lawyers would prefer putting this, I believe, Irrefutable & Overwhelming evidence of Election Fraud & Irregularities in formal Legal Filings as we fight to dismiss this disgraceful Indictment by a publicity & campaign finance seeking D.A., who sadly presides over a record breaking Murder & Violent Crime area, Atlanta. Therefore, the News Conference is no longer necessary!
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I wonder if he'd remember the word order Person, Woman, Man, Camera, TV, CHICKEN
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Rhubarb & Custard wrote: Fri Aug 18, 2023 9:28 am I wonder if he'd remember the word order Person, Woman, Man, Camera, TV, CHICKEN
Oh that'd be easy for him...
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Many people are asking whether or not I will be doing the DEBATES? ALL AMERICANS have been clamoring for a President of extremely High Intelligence. As everyone is aware, my Poll numbers, over a “wonderful” field of Republican candidates, are extraordinary. In fact, I am leading the runner up, whoever that may now be, by more than 50 Points. Reagan didn’t do it, and neither did others. People know my Record, one of the BEST EVER, so why would I Debate? I’M YOUR MAN. MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN!
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Holy shit...They're not even trying to hide the love for Putin anymore..

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He's another Qanon bullshit spouting idiot; he's perfect for the modern GOP :roll:
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Joe Rogan finally said it.

I think, for the sake of a lot of people's sanity, some of the shit they are throwing at Trump better stick because if not. It's on like Donkey Kong.
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This for me is going to be the theme of all these cases, & depending on how the sequencing plays out; will be what
absolutely makes the RICO case in Georgia.

Traditionally you get the Ivy League Lawyer, in the Brooks Brothers suit speaking on behalf of defendant, & the Lawyer
is the one who lends respectability to the defendant(s); NOT THIS TIME !

This time out we're seeing, & will continue to see a succession of Ivy League slimeball lawyers, (who rate lower than Journalists with the public),
whose own behavior will make them part of the conspiracy. The testimony of Cassidy Hutchinson absolutely buried any witness who claims they, "don't remember", & any lawyer who tells their client to repeat this lie, will be telling their client that they are cannon fodder.

It's amazing the power a person can yield, if they just, tell the truth !

In this case, that truth will be shown by every prosecutor, & there isn't a damn thing the defense can do, except tell their clients to repeat the lies that are just too unbelievable. Who the fuck an believe that in these days someone would just forget such significant things ?
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trump plays really well with his own core, but not with the wider electorate and swing voters. I think many people feel burnt by him last time so wouldn’t go with him again
And are there two g’s in Bugger Off?
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Biffer wrote: Wed Aug 23, 2023 8:05 am trump plays really well with his own core, but not with the wider electorate and swing voters. I think many people feel burnt by him last time so wouldn’t go with him again
He bigs up his lead in the nomination race, but actually the polls coming out in the last week or so, are devastating to him, & any GOP candidate running in the down-ballot in November '24. He caps out at 60% of GOP voters wanting him, to just run for President, & 40% of all voters, & coincidentally ~60% of voters believe the 3 of the cases against him.

He appeals to his base, & that's it, & that's an ever shrinking number of people. If & when he wins the nomination, the GOP will lose the other races as well as the Presidency.
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So a few minutes ago, watching CNN as Trump returned to the tarmac after processing, as he was about to say a few words to the gathered journalists, the sound on the ground cut out and Vann Jones in studio said something along the lines of "We can't hear him", so what Trump had to say went unheard and Vann Jones continued on, spouting The Agenda.
Switched over immediately to Fox and lo and behold the sound was just fine and Trump could be clearly heard briefly stating that the Georgia charges were unjustified and that what was happening constituted 2024 election interference. He then boarded the plane.
Tuned back to CNN and, having been deliberately denied Trump's actual words, we got instead that channel's (mis)interpretation of what Trump had said
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^ Sounds convoluted.


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"The Agenda"

:lol:
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Definitely taking it as well as expected. He is referring to the interview with Tucker

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:lol:
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Kiwias wrote: Fri Aug 25, 2023 3:11 am Definitely taking it as well as expected. He is referring to the interview with Tucker

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https://mashable.com/article/tucker-car ... view-count
Mashable can report that, as of the publication of this article on Thursday evening, Carlson's Trump interview has received 14.8 million video views on X.

On X, it's not entirely clear to most users what the views metric refers to — many people believe, falsely, that the video of Carlson's Trump interview received 220 million views more than it actually received.

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This number shows how many impressions a tweet receives
Elon fudging the numbers :yawn:
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There's a thread on the mugshot elsewhere. I said it had a Blue Steel vibe to it. Another poster said it's more Orange Steal.
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