RWCR1 Scotland vs Springboks
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Where has this team been announced btw?TheNatalShark wrote: ↑Tue Sep 05, 2023 5:45 am SA Announced
1 Steven Kitshoff
2 Malcolm Marx
3 Vincent Koch
4 Eben Etzebeth
5 RG Snyman
6 Siya Kolisi (Captain)
7 Pieter-Steph du Toit
8 Duane Vermeulen
Backs
9 Jaden Hendrikse
10 Manie Libbok
11 Makazole Mapimpi
12 Damian de Allende
13 Canan Moodie
14 Cheslin Kolbe
15 Damian Willemse
Replacements
16 Bongi Mbonambi
17 Ox Nche
18 Frans Malherbe
19 Franco Mostert
20 Marco van Staden
21 Jasper Wiese
22 Faf de Klerk
23 Willie le Roux
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SA have it in the tight five, to no-one's surprise. Scotland can challenge in the back row, and have the advantage of a better 10. If Scotland can keep things competitive in the set pieces and narrow channels, and jackal the hell out of every breakdown with Darge and Ritchie, their backs can take it.
Makes sense. Cheers.Blake wrote: ↑Tue Sep 05, 2023 6:39 amDon't think AE is injured. Maybe the coaches just want to see how Moodie pairs with DDA?
Could also be that the coaches think the backline without Faf, Polly and Willie is a little light on experience and wanted to drop in an old hand to settle things down. I don't know DDA, but I've never considered him to be a team leader. He does have 73 tests hunder his belt though, so he is by far the most experienced starting back. Could be that DDA was selected primarily for a leadership role in a pretty green backline (by recent Springbok standards).
Scotland will play it in the air. Kolbe and Willemse are weak there, knocking it on and not getting up in the air high enough for Kolbe. And of course just running at Kolbe and Willemse because that's a weak channel on defenseLoveOfTheGame wrote: ↑Tue Sep 05, 2023 6:56 amWhere has this team been announced btw?TheNatalShark wrote: ↑Tue Sep 05, 2023 5:45 am SA Announced
1 Steven Kitshoff
2 Malcolm Marx
3 Vincent Koch
4 Eben Etzebeth
5 RG Snyman
6 Siya Kolisi (Captain)
7 Pieter-Steph du Toit
8 Duane Vermeulen
Backs
9 Jaden Hendrikse
10 Manie Libbok
11 Makazole Mapimpi
12 Damian de Allende
13 Canan Moodie
14 Cheslin Kolbe
15 Damian Willemse
Replacements
16 Bongi Mbonambi
17 Ox Nche
18 Frans Malherbe
19 Franco Mostert
20 Marco van Staden
21 Jasper Wiese
22 Faf de Klerk
23 Willie le Roux
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Is that official? Jesse Kriel must be mighty pissed.
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So far I can't find an official team announcement.
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Me neither
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He got you, he got you good.
And I'm not clicking on that link.
And I'm not clicking on that link.
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Oh right. No ways I'm clicking on that link, what the hell are you doing on there man?
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Team will only be announce on friday according to WR regulations.
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SA team 09h00 Scots 16h00OomStruisbaai wrote: ↑Tue Sep 05, 2023 8:11 am Team will only be announce on friday according to WR regulations.
I'm not sure Scotland are going to change their entire tactics of the last 4 years for this game, but you never know.Sards wrote: ↑Tue Sep 05, 2023 7:20 amScotland will play it in the air. Kolbe and Willemse are weak there, knocking it on and not getting up in the air high enough for Kolbe. And of course just running at Kolbe and Willemse because that's a weak channel on defenseLoveOfTheGame wrote: ↑Tue Sep 05, 2023 6:56 amWhere has this team been announced btw?TheNatalShark wrote: ↑Tue Sep 05, 2023 5:45 am SA Announced
1 Steven Kitshoff
2 Malcolm Marx
3 Vincent Koch
4 Eben Etzebeth
5 RG Snyman
6 Siya Kolisi (Captain)
7 Pieter-Steph du Toit
8 Duane Vermeulen
Backs
9 Jaden Hendrikse
10 Manie Libbok
11 Makazole Mapimpi
12 Damian de Allende
13 Canan Moodie
14 Cheslin Kolbe
15 Damian Willemse
Replacements
16 Bongi Mbonambi
17 Ox Nche
18 Frans Malherbe
19 Franco Mostert
20 Marco van Staden
21 Jasper Wiese
22 Faf de Klerk
23 Willie le Roux
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Ben Smith at RugbyPass is suggesting Scotland should kick the leather off the ball as aerial defence is SA's biggest weakness, and he points to the Lions Tests where IrnDu McMerwe ruled the skies (this is all according to him, ja).
Stuart Hogg's retirement will be most keenly felt in the tactical kicking game, where he and Finn Russell were brilliant together. I'm not sure Finn Russell can (and wants to) turn things into a kicking battle with himself as the only kicker. Something Ben Smith also recognises, as he suggests Russell and Tuipolotou should be going for plenty grubbers and chips to unleash Jones in particular (although the back three are also very happy to run onto those kicks).
Stuart Hogg's retirement will be most keenly felt in the tactical kicking game, where he and Finn Russell were brilliant together. I'm not sure Finn Russell can (and wants to) turn things into a kicking battle with himself as the only kicker. Something Ben Smith also recognises, as he suggests Russell and Tuipolotou should be going for plenty grubbers and chips to unleash Jones in particular (although the back three are also very happy to run onto those kicks).
Well there's your first mistake.
I know Hogg's kicking was exceptional but still a bit harsh to say that Russell will be the only kicker in the team when Kinghorn has a massive boot on him and for years has been generally entrusted with the responsibility of kickoffs and kicking for touch for Edinburgh, even when not playing 10.clydecloggie wrote: ↑Tue Sep 05, 2023 11:21 am Ben Smith at RugbyPass is suggesting Scotland should kick the leather off the ball as aerial defence is SA's biggest weakness, and he points to the Lions Tests where IrnDu McMerwe ruled the skies (this is all according to him, ja).
Stuart Hogg's retirement will be most keenly felt in the tactical kicking game, where he and Finn Russell were brilliant together. I'm not sure Finn Russell can (and wants to) turn things into a kicking battle with himself as the only kicker. Something Ben Smith also recognises, as he suggests Russell and Tuipolotou should be going for plenty grubbers and chips to unleash Jones in particular (although the back three are also very happy to run onto those kicks).
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I'm not convinced Kinghorn has top-notch tactical in-field kicking in his armoury.robmatic wrote: ↑Tue Sep 05, 2023 12:02 pmI know Hogg's kicking was exceptional but still a bit harsh to say that Russell will be the only kicker in the team when Kinghorn has a massive boot on him and for years has been generally entrusted with the responsibility of kickoffs and kicking for touch for Edinburgh, even when not playing 10.clydecloggie wrote: ↑Tue Sep 05, 2023 11:21 am Ben Smith at RugbyPass is suggesting Scotland should kick the leather off the ball as aerial defence is SA's biggest weakness, and he points to the Lions Tests where IrnDu McMerwe ruled the skies (this is all according to him, ja).
Stuart Hogg's retirement will be most keenly felt in the tactical kicking game, where he and Finn Russell were brilliant together. I'm not sure Finn Russell can (and wants to) turn things into a kicking battle with himself as the only kicker. Something Ben Smith also recognises, as he suggests Russell and Tuipolotou should be going for plenty grubbers and chips to unleash Jones in particular (although the back three are also very happy to run onto those kicks).
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It's a different Ben Smith. He's a terrible journo, and there only for clickbaitclydecloggie wrote: ↑Tue Sep 05, 2023 12:21 pm what's wrong with Ben Smith? Not exactly the worst player ever.
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Agreeclydecloggie wrote: ↑Tue Sep 05, 2023 12:20 pmI'm not convinced Kinghorn has top-notch tactical in-field kicking in his armoury.robmatic wrote: ↑Tue Sep 05, 2023 12:02 pmI know Hogg's kicking was exceptional but still a bit harsh to say that Russell will be the only kicker in the team when Kinghorn has a massive boot on him and for years has been generally entrusted with the responsibility of kickoffs and kicking for touch for Edinburgh, even when not playing 10.clydecloggie wrote: ↑Tue Sep 05, 2023 11:21 am Ben Smith at RugbyPass is suggesting Scotland should kick the leather off the ball as aerial defence is SA's biggest weakness, and he points to the Lions Tests where IrnDu McMerwe ruled the skies (this is all according to him, ja).
Stuart Hogg's retirement will be most keenly felt in the tactical kicking game, where he and Finn Russell were brilliant together. I'm not sure Finn Russell can (and wants to) turn things into a kicking battle with himself as the only kicker. Something Ben Smith also recognises, as he suggests Russell and Tuipolotou should be going for plenty grubbers and chips to unleash Jones in particular (although the back three are also very happy to run onto those kicks).
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Were the highlights on Facebook?LoveOfTheGame wrote: ↑Tue Sep 05, 2023 12:44 pmSards, did you watch Scotland play rugby in the 6n or even recently in warmups?
Duane reckons we need to analyze Fin Russel thoroughly.
My thoughts exactly. That's where the threat will come from. Wow.....he thinks the same way I do.....sorry man Sandy and co. You are so wrapped up in the ABs victory you think we are invincible . Remember Japan
My thoughts exactly. That's where the threat will come from. Wow.....he thinks the same way I do.....sorry man Sandy and co. You are so wrapped up in the ABs victory you think we are invincible . Remember Japan
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The Scots will struggle analyzing Libbok.
This team for the RWC will be competitive. Don't think that on the back of an AB victory we will pulverize them.LoveOfTheGame wrote: ↑Tue Sep 05, 2023 12:44 pmSards, did you watch Scotland play rugby in the 6n or even recently in warmups?
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Yes we all know that Sards. You're all over the show. What makes you think Scotland will not back their attack or quick phase play?Sards wrote: ↑Tue Sep 05, 2023 2:47 pmThis team for the RWC will be competitive. Don't think that on the back of an AB victory we will pulverize them.LoveOfTheGame wrote: ↑Tue Sep 05, 2023 12:44 pmSards, did you watch Scotland play rugby in the 6n or even recently in warmups?
Ummmm....I remember Japan. I was there!
I am not under-estimating Scotland. They're a dangerous team and quality outfit.
I'm also not getting my Rugby knowledge from Bookface.
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I'll be pissed off if we dont beat the Scots.
Maybe you should...
Just bringing the Saffers back to earth.
Any team can have an off day
Anyway......Go Bokke
Scotland's aim is going to be to run a couple of phases in the middle using a mix of Tuipolotu and back rows, with the structure we've seen recently where the alignment of Russel and Huwipolotou, with a back row included is such that you can't immediately tell who the ball is going to even after the SH has released it. Cause a misalignment that causes the SA winger to crash in too early or on the wrong man so Russel can put the long pass over the top. That tactic has been key for the last eighteen months and has been developed with that defensive tactic of the winger crashing in tight on the angle in defence. That'll be backed up with cross field kicks from Russell
Whther it'll work or not I don't know but I think that's the plan.
Whther it'll work or not I don't know but I think that's the plan.
And are there two g’s in Bugger Off?
So will I. If we play well, we should beat them every time.
If we play badly or start slowly, we'll lose.
If Scots have an absolute blinder, they'll beat us and anyone else.
I'll still be annoyed.