RWCR3 Ireland vs Springboks @ 23/9 21h00

[OomStruisbaai]

South Africa v Ireland
Date: Saturday 23rd September 2023

Venue: Stade de France, Paris

Kick-off: 8:00pm (9:00pm local)

Referee: Ben O'Keeffe (New Zealand)

[Sandstorm]

Ben O’Kak.

[OomStruisbaai]

Ireland the big favorites. Can't see us beating the world top rugby team.

[PCPhil]

Ireland the big favorites. Can't see us beating the world top rugby team.

The Mocker Gods see all.

[OomStruisbaai]

Ireland the big favorites. Can't see us beating the world top rugby team.

The Mocker Gods see all.

There is no place to hide from our URC rivals. I hope for AE and Moodie to step up but we are stuck with Willie, Kriel and Ellendig.

[_Os_]

Photo of the neutrals who just support rugby and don't mind who wins.

[OomStruisbaai]

Photo of one of South Africa's best friend current allies. Apparently he is having the match shown live to all the brave soldiers in Crimea

That's a low blow from a comrades fighter

[Slick]

This should be a great thread

[PCPhil]

I'm just concerned that Planet Rugby server might go down. Took weeks to clean the mess up last time.

[sefton]

I can only see a Bok win.

[OomStruisbaai]

Official now

Springbok coach Jacques Nienaber explained the decision to call up Pollard rather than a forward: “We are confident with the cover we have at hooker with Bongi Mbonambi and Deon Fourie, and Marco van Staden has been slotting in the position since our alignment camps in February, so we opted to call up Handre, who has been in our system for years and who was a member of our team in 2019 when we won the World Cup.

“He’s been working hard to return to full fitness, and we are pleased that he now has some game time under his belt for his club, and this will allow him to slot back into the team.

“We’ll work closely with him in the next week to get him back up to speed and back into the full swing of things, and we have no doubt he’ll step up to the challenge. He’s been here before so he knows the physical and mental demands of the World Cup.”

The Springboks will make the journey from Bordeaux to Paris on Monday where they will begin their preparations for Saturday’s round-three RWC clash against Ireland.

[Torquemada 1420]

I'm just concerned that Planet Rugby server might go down. Took weeks to clean the mess up last time.

And that was just Jake's monitor.

[Jethro]

One of the matches of pool play. Given the rubbish the French are serving up currently expecting a Bok win, though the loss of Marx (?) is a big set back.

[Sards]

Ireland and South Africa have been beating up teams up till now. Now it all starts. Whoever wins this match will have to face New Zealand in the quarters. Whoever loses this match faces France. Scotland will be hoping the boks win so they can have a realistic shot at the quarters when they face Ireland.
So many variables.
Ireland I suspect would prefer NZ in the quarters. So should be going all out to win this game.
I don't think the Springboks will want Ireland to win even at the prospect of facing NZ in the quarters.
I don't think NZ have shown anything yet . I think they can still win this tournament.
France have been cruising along efficiently. I believe they are more vulnerable. Even with home support.
It all comes down to this. A one off game in the quarters that will determine who wins the RWC. On the other side of the pools only Fiji stands as a threat. Once past the quarters it should be a cake walk to the finals.
I think both management teams will be pondering the same thing. Make the right decision here and you are into the finals.

[OomStruisbaai]

Sards one game at a time Boet. Nothing more. Beat Ireland and we are in the quarters.

[Gumboot]

I don't think NZ have shown anything yet . I think they can still win this tournament.

We have next to zero chance of making it past the quarters, mate. At this point I don't even fancy our chances against Italy, tbh.

It all comes down to this. A one off game in the quarters that will determine who wins the RWC. On the other side of the pools only Fiji stands as a threat. Once past the quarters it should be a cake walk to the finals.

Yeah, nah... anything can happen, and usually does.

Except the ABs winning it... coz that's just

[boere wors]

All the pressure is on Irland to win this game. Lose it and the Scotland game becomes a knock out game. Boks can be quite relaxed about it.

[Gumboot]

Was chatting with my GP today. She's a Saffer, and a mad keen Springboks supporter. We both agreed that the Boks are looking very likely again, while Ireland still has everything to prove on the World Cup stage. I expressed my pessimism about the ABs prospects, after several years of turmoil and disappointment under Foster. She offered to prescribe me anti-depressants.

[Sards]

Sards one game at a time Boet. Nothing more. Beat Ireland and we are in the quarters.

Tactical planning begins with the Irish match..

Although Scotland going full tilt at Ireland excites me

[Soapy]

I'm reasonably confident Scotland timed their run wrong and peaked too early

I'm not sure about timing of runs - it is more that SA and Ireland are Scotland's kryptonite.

[Sards]

All the pressure is on Irland to win this game. Lose it and the Scotland game becomes a knock out game. Boks can be quite relaxed about it.

We are pretty much through......I agree with you completely.
We could still throw the Irish match and still get through.

My gut says play France in the quarters and let Ireland deal with the ABs....

I still think the ABs are going to ambush a quarter finalist

[average joe]

All the pressure is on Irland to win this game. Lose it and the Scotland game becomes a knock out game. Boks can be quite relaxed about it.

Nothing is a certainty here. We lose this, Scotland beats Ireland and all of a sudden it becomes a tossup who goes through. The Boks can't afford to "be quite relaxed about it" they need this win to secure a 1/4 final spot.

[Sandstorm]

I'm reasonably confident Scotland timed their run wrong and peaked too early

I'm not sure about timing of runs - it is more that SA and Ireland are Scotland's kryptonite.

Yup. Scotland never have a world-class loose trio and always get hammered by SA and Ireland in this area.

[_Os_]

Boks are playing in their alternate alternate jersey for this match, which is the traditional white away kit. Couldn't play in the alternate jersey (Checkers jersey) because it clashes with Ireland's jersey. The away jersey successfully clashes with the only other team playing in green, so there's a second away jersey not for public sale.

It seems SA Rugby knew the Checkers jersey would be used a lot when the Boks played a team in a dark jersey (home/away team decide by coin flip?), so chose an away jersey that clashed badly with Ireland's jersey because the jersey would at least be green and maintain brand continuity more. To do this they also designed a second away jersey for use against Ireland.

Three matches. Three different jerseys. World Rugby's new stupid rules on one team having to be in light jerseys and the other in dark jerseys, Nike greed in producing an away jersey that's very different/marketable, SA Rugby wanting to protect IP, have combined into something really stupid.

[OomStruisbaai]

See a lot of that Checkers around. Must be Bulls supporters, they wear pink. Vokket.

[_Os_]

See a lot of that Checkers around. Must be Bulls supporters, they wear pink. Vokket.

It was a clever way to sell more jerseys. Apparently kids and women like the Checkers design.

The brand is green and gold though. This is mainly a World Rugby fuck up imo. My understanding of the new rules is at RWCs the Boks and ABs cannot play eachother in their normal traditional jerseys, just like Scotland and the Boks cannot, they're dark colours which means France too. Because of the colour blind green and red jerseys cannot play eachother either, so that's Wales too. Ireland play in green so add them to the list. The only big teams the Boks can wear traditional jersey against without some kak process to get there which puts the other team into an away jersey are England/Wallabies/Pumas.

Kinda happy the Boks went with a joke jersey, if we're going to destroy a tradition for no reason lets nuke it.

My solution would be to ignore the colour blind. Fuck them.

[OomStruisbaai]

See a lot of that Checkers around. Must be Bulls supporters, they wear pink. Vokket.

It was a clever way to sell more jerseys. Apparently kids and women like the Checkers design.

The brand is green and gold though. This is mainly a World Rugby fuck up imo. My understanding of the new rules is at RWCs the Boks and ABs cannot play eachother in their normal traditional jerseys, just like Scotland and the Boks cannot, they're dark colours which means France too. Because of the colour blind green and red jerseys cannot play eachother either, so that's Wales too. Ireland play in green so add them to the list. The only big teams the Boks can wear traditional jersey against without some kak process to get there which puts the other team into an away jersey are England/Wallabies/Pumas.

Kinda happy the Boks went with a joke jersey, if we're going to destroy a tradition for no reason lets nuke it.

My solution would be to ignore the colour blind. Fuck them.

They taught us lost generation to be colour blind. Now they fuck our Bok jersey up because of it.

[Sards]

We haven't lost in that jersey........?

[boere wors]

See a lot of that Checkers around. Must be Bulls supporters, they wear pink. Vokket.

It was a clever way to sell more jerseys. Apparently kids and women like the Checkers design.

The brand is green and gold though. This is mainly a World Rugby fuck up imo. My understanding of the new rules is at RWCs the Boks and ABs cannot play eachother in their normal traditional jerseys, just like Scotland and the Boks cannot, they're dark colours which means France too. Because of the colour blind green and red jerseys cannot play eachother either, so that's Wales too. Ireland play in green so add them to the list. The only big teams the Boks can wear traditional jersey against without some kak process to get there which puts the other team into an away jersey are England/Wallabies/Pumas.

Kinda happy the Boks went with a joke jersey, if we're going to destroy a tradition for no reason lets nuke it.

My solution would be to ignore the colour blind. Fuck them.

ffs that really is a joke

[Bloutoria]

See a lot of that Checkers around. Must be Bulls supporters, they wear pink. Vokket.

Not putting this on us! Leave in a sexual manner.

[Sandstorm]

See a lot of that Checkers around. Must be Bulls supporters, they wear pink. Vokket.

It was a clever way to sell more jerseys. Apparently kids and women like the Checkers design.

The brand is green and gold though. This is mainly a World Rugby fuck up imo. My understanding of the new rules is at RWCs the Boks and ABs cannot play eachother in their normal traditional jerseys, just like Scotland and the Boks cannot, they're dark colours which means France too. Because of the colour blind green and red jerseys cannot play eachother either, so that's Wales too. Ireland play in green so add them to the list. The only big teams the Boks can wear traditional jersey against without some kak process to get there which puts the other team into an away jersey are England/Wallabies/Pumas.

Kinda happy the Boks went with a joke jersey, if we're going to destroy a tradition for no reason lets nuke it.

My solution would be to ignore the colour blind. Fuck them.

40 years ago when every television was black&white, jerseys were striped or solid (eg. WP vs Bulls) so anyone could tell who was who. Any colour blind folk didn’t get left out either.

Could easily have a dark green and white striped Bok jersey vs solid Blue Scottish top. Or the usual green Irish one.

A random pattern in a toothpaste colour is fucking stupid.

[Uncle fester]

Jerseys are hard to work up spite for.

[laurent]

Jerseys are hard to work up spite for.

Can the Irish Screw up as much as the last Springbok "creation" ?

[Uncle fester]

Our green one is pretty manky. Looks like the cheap knock offs aldi do.

The white version is not so horrific.

[laurent]

Our green one is pretty manky. Looks like the cheap knock offs aldi do.

The white version is not so horrific.

I should be at the game (with a 'Tarf shirt).

[_Os_]

See a lot of that Checkers around. Must be Bulls supporters, they wear pink. Vokket.

It was a clever way to sell more jerseys. Apparently kids and women like the Checkers design.

The brand is green and gold though. This is mainly a World Rugby fuck up imo. My understanding of the new rules is at RWCs the Boks and ABs cannot play eachother in their normal traditional jerseys, just like Scotland and the Boks cannot, they're dark colours which means France too. Because of the colour blind green and red jerseys cannot play eachother either, so that's Wales too. Ireland play in green so add them to the list. The only big teams the Boks can wear traditional jersey against without some kak process to get there which puts the other team into an away jersey are England/Wallabies/Pumas.

Kinda happy the Boks went with a joke jersey, if we're going to destroy a tradition for no reason lets nuke it.

My solution would be to ignore the colour blind. Fuck them.

40 years ago when every television was black&white, jerseys were striped or solid (eg. WP vs Bulls) so anyone could tell who was who. Any colour blind folk didn’t get left out either.

Could easily have a dark green and white striped Bok jersey vs solid Blue Scottish top. Or the usual green Irish one.

A random pattern in a toothpaste colour is fucking stupid.

To fix a problem which does not exist you want the Boks to play in a Sables jersey? You want to steal Zimbabwe's jersey? Only one team plays in green and white hoops.

The Boks playing in green and gold only changing to white against Ireland is totally fine. World Rugby has decided that is not fine, it has invented a problem. Checkers jersey it is then, if it's not the green and gold it needs to be something which can be sold, so it'll be Bok Sevens type jerseys every RWC.

[_Os_]

Jerseys are hard to work up spite for.

There's not enough of you on here, only a mini swarm. It also seems many of us like you guys.

If there were obvious weak points in the Irish side I would be pointing out "they're shit because of this". All I've got is the Irish depth seems a bit weak, but any side only needs a really good XV. Beyond that your coach says the word "regard" a lot, and the Viking clap is contrived plastic.

[average joe]

Nothing wrong with pandering to the colour blind but what's wrong with the traditional white with green and gold trim. The Springboks are sponsored by Checkers and FNB and that is their colours. World Rugby does not allow marketing at the WC tournament. Thats why there's no sponsor logos on the jerseys.

[Uncle fester]

Jerseys are hard to work up spite for.

There's not enough of you on here, only a mini swarm. It also seems many of us like you guys.

If there were obvious weak points in the Irish side I would be pointing out "they're shit because of this". All I've got is the Irish depth seems a bit weak, but any side only needs a really good XV. Beyond that your coach says the word "regard" a lot, and the Viking clap is contrived plastic.

Erasmus is a loolah.
There I said it.

[Sards]

I don't know where you guys are but this weekend is war.
Ireland vs South Africa.
The Irish cnuts must feel pain. We must soften them up for Scotland to take them out in the pool stages