Why a must win? The loser will most likely become second and play France, who will still go through topping their Pool.EnergiseR2 wrote: ↑Fri Sep 22, 2023 7:07 am Dupont possibly being out changes everything. France are pretty bang average without his threat perceived or otherwise. It's become a must win for both of us because despite guy et al refusing to show us their knickers NZ are by far a greater threat with Dupont out of the equation
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No. I cannot do that. In the Angolan war I was an Ops Medic. Went along with the Bats , intelligence etc. To give primary care in the field. I have held many a man that has passed on. The Branners and coke with ice after a hard day at the cassavac points was a refreshing relief.EnergiseR2 wrote: ↑Thu Sep 21, 2023 7:12 pmSards have you ever killed a man? Looked him straight in the eye and gunned him down?Sards wrote: ↑Thu Sep 21, 2023 6:43 pmWhy get pissed quickly. Generally our weather is s lot hotter here. When we drink we are quenching a thirst foremost. So we gooi some coke and ice to cool the drink down. Later some, like myself go neat. But Generally it tastes like cool drink with a bietjie by. So we just go with the flow. Where you are you need to warm your body up. Quickly.Rhubarb & Custard wrote: ↑Thu Sep 21, 2023 6:32 pm The man of the house? No self-respecting man puts coke in their drink, it's for children.
Just buy decent brandy instead, or really buy whisky, or, if you must, whiskey.
Most Fridays we have friends around. Ice is paramount. Always bags in the freezer. Everything goes with ice. And coke.
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I have always maintained it is a nothing match. We will go through anyway. Apparently it has even become a must lose match nowOomStruisbaai wrote: ↑Fri Sep 22, 2023 7:46 am
So this match change to a practise match.
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I am not sure about that. The All Blacks are bliksems. They will be to happy to get us in the quarters.boere wors wrote: ↑Fri Sep 22, 2023 7:51 amI have always maintained it is a nothing match. We will go through anyway. Apparently it has even become a must lose match now
I have my favorite brandy sipping glasses which I can barely fit 2 blocks of ice. But thats for my 10 year old KWV. A couple of sips and its gone.Rhubarb & Custard wrote: ↑Thu Sep 21, 2023 7:27 pmSards wrote: ↑Thu Sep 21, 2023 6:43 pm Why get pissed quickly. Generally our weather is s lot hotter here. When we drink we are quenching a thirst foremost. So we gooi some coke and ice to cool the drink down. Later some, like myself go neat. But Generally it tastes like cool drink with a bietjie by. So we just go with the flow. Where you are you need to warm your body up. Quickly.
Most Fridays we have friends around. Ice is paramount. Always bags in the freezer. Everything goes with ice. And coke.
So add tonic to your gin or vodka along with ice. Or if it's hot enough add ice to brandy or whisky. Just don't add sweet gunky crap
My 3 year old KWV I enjoy with coke and ice. Fill it into my skull mug and thats my kuier dop. At least I can spend some time enjoying it before I need a refill. Also the mugs insulated so the ice lasts longer. The measure is 2 Tots to start. After that its no measure. Just Gooi.
I am glad I am not the only one more conderned about the ABs than the French in the quartersOomStruisbaai wrote: ↑Fri Sep 22, 2023 7:54 amI am not sure about that. The All Blacks are bliksems. They will be to happy to get us in the quarters.boere wors wrote: ↑Fri Sep 22, 2023 7:51 amI have always maintained it is a nothing match. We will go through anyway. Apparently it has even become a must lose match now
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Hence a must lose. To avoid them. They most likely will stay 2nd in their group. That is the joke.OomStruisbaai wrote: ↑Fri Sep 22, 2023 7:54 amI am not sure about that. The All Blacks are bliksems. They will be to happy to get us in the quarters.boere wors wrote: ↑Fri Sep 22, 2023 7:51 amI have always maintained it is a nothing match. We will go through anyway. Apparently it has even become a must lose match now
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Again, what makes you so certain we'll go through anyways? I've tried to explain it to you before. We have to win this match to put it beyond doubt.boere wors wrote: ↑Fri Sep 22, 2023 8:04 amHence a must lose. To avoid them. They most likely will stay 2nd in their group. That is the joke.OomStruisbaai wrote: ↑Fri Sep 22, 2023 7:54 amI am not sure about that. The All Blacks are bliksems. They will be to happy to get us in the quarters.boere wors wrote: ↑Fri Sep 22, 2023 7:51 am
I have always maintained it is a nothing match. We will go through anyway. Apparently it has even become a must lose match now
Ireland: Played 2 Won 2 10 points with +117
SA: Played 2 Won 2 9 points with +91
Scotland: Played 1 Lost 1 0 points with -15
We only have Tonga to play after this match. My bet is it's going to be tighter than Romania.
Ireland has Scotland.
Scotland still has Tonga, Romania and then Ireland.
Ireland beats us and it leaves Scotland with a chance. Hard to say who wins between them when a desperate Scotland is given a last bit of hope. If Scotland beats them, we're all on played 4 won 3 lost 1. Even Stevens and what then? All of a sudden, it's about points. My bet is Scotland's match against Romania will be another blowout. Chances are it's a bigger scoreline than ours. You want the Boks to be like Bafana? Hoping Senegal beats Ivory Coast or some such so we can go through?
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The same that made you so certain we will beat Scotland.average joe wrote: ↑Fri Sep 22, 2023 8:39 amAgain, what makes you so certain we'll go through anyways?boere wors wrote: ↑Fri Sep 22, 2023 8:04 amHence a must lose. To avoid them. They most likely will stay 2nd in their group. That is the joke.OomStruisbaai wrote: ↑Fri Sep 22, 2023 7:54 am
I am not sure about that. The All Blacks are bliksems. They will be to happy to get us in the quarters.
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And besides that, mathematics. I don't need your explanations, do your math properly regarding bonus points, and you will be much more relaxed. Just like you apparently were before the Scotland game.
If we get a losing BP we are grand no matter what happensboere wors wrote: ↑Fri Sep 22, 2023 9:48 am And besides that, mathematics. I don't need your explanations, do your math properly regarding bonus points, and you will be much more relaxed. Just like you apparently were before the Scotland game.
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and/or 4 tries.Sards wrote: ↑Fri Sep 22, 2023 10:38 amIf we get a losing BP we are grand no matter what happensboere wors wrote: ↑Fri Sep 22, 2023 9:48 am And besides that, mathematics. I don't need your explanations, do your math properly regarding bonus points, and you will be much more relaxed. Just like you apparently were before the Scotland game.
The 3 more tries bonus point rule is much better.
The way I understand it. Rassie has planned this down to a T. If he was given the choice of a quarter between the ABs or France and he could choose by manipulating results, I am sure he would.
Mind. He has been acting a bit arrogant lately. Maybe his personality wants him to smash whoever is put in front of him.
All I know is that this weekends 7-1 split is being done with a completely new backline from the backline that took the ABs apart. This backline is set to defend. Not attack. The Attack is coming through the forwards.
Mind. He has been acting a bit arrogant lately. Maybe his personality wants him to smash whoever is put in front of him.
All I know is that this weekends 7-1 split is being done with a completely new backline from the backline that took the ABs apart. This backline is set to defend. Not attack. The Attack is coming through the forwards.
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You Kiwis like to throw this line out. We know the Irish way to well, vok we play in the same URC competition. We cant be confident, no vokken way. The Irish are nr 1 now for a long time and we will need to be at our best to beat them.
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Ox explain it all in a detailed report.Sards wrote: ↑Fri Sep 22, 2023 10:45 am The way I understand it. Rassie has planned this down to a T. If he was given the choice of a quarter between the ABs or France and he could choose by manipulating results, I am sure he would.
Mind. He has been acting a bit arrogant lately. Maybe his personality wants him to smash whoever is put in front of him.
All I know is that this weekends 7-1 split is being done with a completely new backline from the backline that took the ABs apart. This backline is set to defend. Not attack. The Attack is coming through the forwards.
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You need all the figures to do the math. Ireland has 2 BP, we have 1 and Scotland 0. We get a losing BP here we have 2. Do you think Scotland can't pick up 2 against Tonga and Romania? A very large part of winning in rugby is phycological. We lose against the Irish and the Scots knows exactly what they'll need to do in the next three matches. Ireland win or lose will be through and can focus on the 1/4 finals. You have a relaxed Ireland against a desperate Scotland.boere wors wrote: ↑Fri Sep 22, 2023 9:48 am And besides that, mathematics. I don't need your explanations, do your math properly regarding bonus points, and you will be much more relaxed. Just like you apparently were before the Scotland game.
Will you bet your house and everything you own on it? I won't, we win this, and we don't need to stress about what others will do. We don't win and we have to put Tonga to the sword and hope the Scots don't do the same and thrash an already demoralized no hope Romania.
Now if you're telling me your confident we'll win this, like I did with the Scots, I'm with you but this is not a nothing match, it's the biggest match of the group games for us and all is still on the line.
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They can just as well put the winner of this match's name on the WWE trophy after the game.
That's deep Trogs.troglodiet wrote: ↑Fri Sep 22, 2023 4:49 pm They can just as well put the winner of this match's name on the WWE trophy after the game.
Yoh.....
This is good on Pollard's defence compared to Libbok's:
https://analystgus.substack.com/p/the-i ... springboks
Libbok offering a lot more speed to disrupt opponents on defence and cover tackle. Weaker than Pollard defending in the line. Reckon Ireland are going to attack the inside of Libbok, they're good at stacking runners and attacking close in using inside passes.
Boks are now about 3 or 4 point favourites. The consensus is a close match. To me it looks more likely that one side imposes their game plan or the other does and wins well, Ireland and the Boks haven't played enough to call which side with confidence (obviously I'm backing the Boks).
https://analystgus.substack.com/p/the-i ... springboks
Libbok offering a lot more speed to disrupt opponents on defence and cover tackle. Weaker than Pollard defending in the line. Reckon Ireland are going to attack the inside of Libbok, they're good at stacking runners and attacking close in using inside passes.
Boks are now about 3 or 4 point favourites. The consensus is a close match. To me it looks more likely that one side imposes their game plan or the other does and wins well, Ireland and the Boks haven't played enough to call which side with confidence (obviously I'm backing the Boks).
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So we have our St Patrick's day on Sunday. I still have some Springbok in the freezer. Will it be Springbok potjie or Irish Stew potjie?
The RWC site has the kick-off time as 8am here in New Zealand...but we'll change to daylight saving time at 2am. So, does anyone know if the listed kick-off time takes that into account? Getting up early on a Sunday is already against my religion, so I really don't want to get up even earlier than I need to, if I can avoid it.
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I've made a countdown clockGumboot wrote: ↑Fri Sep 22, 2023 10:09 pm The RWC site has the kick-off time as 8am here in New Zealand...but we'll change to daylight saving time at 2am. So, does anyone know if the listed kick-off time takes that into account? Getting up early on a Sunday is already against my religion, so I really don't want to get up even earlier than I need to, if I can avoid it.
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Also fwiw I don't think anyone is yelling at anyone to wear a suit, not really any day of the week anymore, and certainly not on a Saturday. These days I've seen people turn up to weddings dressed in casual, so no need to be perturbed by the local youth not wearing suits on the weekend
Whereas drinking coke remains puerile. I would claim it's also markedly unhealthy, but seeing as I'd happily drink a bottle of whisky sans coke the health argument would be on sketchy grounds
Exactly, no one is going to tell English hooligans to dress smarter. Anyone aware would avoid a group of men wearing those brands on match day, and as you say being slovenly is culturally acceptable and normal to the English. The cultural context matters.Rhubarb & Custard wrote: ↑Fri Sep 22, 2023 11:06 pm Also fwiw I don't think anyone is yelling at anyone to wear a suit, not really any day of the week anymore, and certainly not on a Saturday. These days I've seen people turn up to weddings dressed in casual, so no need to be perturbed by the local youth not wearing suits on the weekend
Rhubarb & Custard wrote: ↑Fri Sep 22, 2023 11:06 pm Whereas drinking coke remains puerile. I would claim it's also markedly unhealthy, but seeing as I'd happily drink a bottle of whisky sans coke the health argument would be on sketchy grounds
I actually Googled that. We have a Buffelsfontein game farm up the road a bit. Not so.
Based in Pretoria. A guy that used to make beard oil started a distillery.
Last night it was gin cocktails as it was quite warm. Whilst digging around in my bar for combinations I found a KWV 10 year old still in the box. Probably a couple of years old.
I am not phased about collecting drinks. It's like my knives. You don't have them to keep in a box to retain the value. I use them. Sharpen them and cut with them. Some collectors would be horrified. Same with alcohol. Invariably I got it as a gift at some point but there's no emotional attachment.
So if you are digging in there and find something special in a box I open it.
Anyway. I am going to enjoy that 10 year old this afternoon. On ice.
After the Springboks victory
Might even get a cigar. Just to be correct for Rhubarb
Wat? I hardly ever drink coca cola myself but this is the first time I've seen anyone claim drinking it is "peurile". Maybe it's an English thing? On the other hand, my dad thinks eating crisps is puerile which I can kinda see, but they're very popular even amongst adults in the UK.Rhubarb & Custard wrote: ↑Fri Sep 22, 2023 11:06 pm
Also fwiw I don't think anyone is yelling at anyone to wear a suit, not really any day of the week anymore, and certainly not on a Saturday. These days I've seen people turn up to weddings dressed in casual, so no need to be perturbed by the local youth not wearing suits on the weekend
Whereas drinking coke remains puerile. I would claim it's also markedly unhealthy, but seeing as I'd happily drink a bottle of whisky sans coke the health argument would be on sketchy grounds
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Sards wrote: ↑Fri Sep 22, 2023 6:27 pmThat's deep Trogs.troglodiet wrote: ↑Fri Sep 22, 2023 4:49 pm They can just as well put the winner of this match's name on the WWE trophy after the game.
Yoh.....
Ek's so diep soos 'n pispot met 'n afgeroesde bodem.
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So in the context of being South African adding enough sugar to your drink such you can tolerate it can be associated with hard man notions, and elsewhere not so much. Fair enough
Dude. No one likes a snob. Deal with it. Coke Zero. No sugar.Rhubarb & Custard wrote: ↑Sat Sep 23, 2023 7:23 amSo in the context of being South African adding enough sugar to your drink such you can tolerate it can be associated with hard man notions, and elsewhere not so much. Fair enough
You really don't understand how cultivated the Saffer dad bod is. We take care.
Coke Anything is disgusting. I'd rather drink bong water.Sards wrote: ↑Sat Sep 23, 2023 8:17 amDude. No one likes a snob. Deal with it. Coke Zero. No sugar.Rhubarb & Custard wrote: ↑Sat Sep 23, 2023 7:23 amSo in the context of being South African adding enough sugar to your drink such you can tolerate it can be associated with hard man notions, and elsewhere not so much. Fair enough
You really don't understand how cultivated the Saffer dad bod is. We take care.
It's such a bizarre thing to be a snob about thought. In my experience countries with hot climates, Islamic countries and places with spicy cuisines enjoy sweet drinks. Some of sweetest drinks I've had have been given to me by Indians, Pakistanis and Chinese . Often as an antidote to spicy dishes. In Sudan the national drink is tea, with enough sugar added to saturate it and form a layer on the bottom of the glass. Anyway, a brandy and coke is going to have less than half the amount of sugar of a glass of orange juice.Sards wrote: ↑Sat Sep 23, 2023 8:17 amDude. No one likes a snob. Deal with it. Coke Zero. No sugar.Rhubarb & Custard wrote: ↑Sat Sep 23, 2023 7:23 amSo in the context of being South African adding enough sugar to your drink such you can tolerate it can be associated with hard man notions, and elsewhere not so much. Fair enough
You really don't understand how cultivated the Saffer dad bod is. We take care.