Springbokke next 4 years to 2027

[Sards]

Oom, there's no Huw Jones in this photo.

Love the braai setup. Round braai at the end of a table. Same as I just put in, but bigger and looks cast iron. Awesome.
The meat....

[average joe]

Souties are the most biased in provincial rugby, because for us on some deep subconscious level it's about getting one over the boere. The first reaction of Marx going down from an older relative was "with Malcom gone there's none of us in the squad". Sharks are the soutie team like the Bulls are the boer team.

Afrikaners are the opposite, more biased about the Boks, for them on some deep subconscious level it's about getting one over the Anglos. Rassie is that made into a person, outside SA he only seems to rate Ireland. They tend not to even know who players are in other teams (Edinburgh is a city in Ireland etc), just different coloured shirts on Engelsmanne there to be beaten. Foreigners always rate ons Engels as more "reasonable" because they don't see the provincial stuff, only tests where ons Engels worry about how they come across in a way they don't when playing the Bulls.

I tend to think both groups have valid points.

Just want to come back to this post if I may. My uncle was born and raised in north Natal. Spoke Zulu fluently, swam with his brothers and the crocs in the Tugela as a child. Tough as fokon nails and a no-nonsense hard bastard but a very avid Sharks supporter, even his dog was called Sharkie but he was never like the Sharks supporters on here. He had the humility to commend other teams and their players and admit when they were better than a Nataler. He could celebrate just as hard with other supporters when the Boks won and complement players who weren't from Natal. He was both a proud Afrikaner and an actual farmer so you could call him a boer. So, there might be some truth to your statement.

[_Os_]

Souties are the most biased in provincial rugby, because for us on some deep subconscious level it's about getting one over the boere. The first reaction of Marx going down from an older relative was "with Malcom gone there's none of us in the squad". Sharks are the soutie team like the Bulls are the boer team.

Afrikaners are the opposite, more biased about the Boks, for them on some deep subconscious level it's about getting one over the Anglos. Rassie is that made into a person, outside SA he only seems to rate Ireland. They tend not to even know who players are in other teams (Edinburgh is a city in Ireland etc), just different coloured shirts on Engelsmanne there to be beaten. Foreigners always rate ons Engels as more "reasonable" because they don't see the provincial stuff, only tests where ons Engels worry about how they come across in a way they don't when playing the Bulls.

I tend to think both groups have valid points.

Just want to come back to this post if I may. My uncle was born and raised in north Natal. Spoke Zulu fluently, swam with his brothers and the crocs in the Tugela as a child. Though as fokon nails and a no-nonsense hard bastard but a very avid Sharks supporter, even his dog was called Sharkie but he was never like the Sharks supporters on here. He had the humility to commend other teams and their players and admit when they were better than a Nataler. He could celebrate just as hard with other supporters when the Boks won and complement players who weren't from Natal. He was both a proud Afrikaner and an actual farmer so you could call him a boer. So, there might be some truth to your statement.

Sounds like a lekker guy.

North KZN (the KwaZulu part of KZN) and south KZN (the Natal part of KZN), are extremely different places. The Tugela river is the old border between Natal and Zululand. North KZN used to have its own rugby union it was called "Noord Natal", the name being in Afrikaans should tell you something. In terms of the white population north KZN is strongly Afrikaans speaking, Afrikaans place names start popping up more around Weenen (Tugela river area) and further north. Newcastle the biggest city in the north is 24% white and 21% Afrikaans speaking, it's 35% English speaking and those people are nearly all be Indian or black. Pietermaritzburg the biggest city in the south other than Durban it is 14% white, 4% Afrikaans speaking, and 29% English speaking, for whites it's the opposite of Newcastle (ironically given their names). Natal was a British colony where immigrants assimilated by speaking English, this was going on since the mid-19th century, that's why Indians all speak English in SA but other groups like Natal Germans also ended up speaking English (Westville and New Germany were the original German settlements, New Hanover was founded not long after, their descendants are English speakers like Gary Teichmann, the original Rhodesian settlers were mostly Natalians that couldn't get land in Natal, which is how Teich has a Natalian background but is from Zim). Zululand has a totally different modern history, it was dominated by the Zulu kingdom with some small Boer settlements (Vryheid, Utrecht) that survived because they sided with Zulu factions. Louis Botha was from about where your uncle is from he was allied to King Dinuzulu and led Boers who fought for Dinuzulu against chiefs that wanted to replace him in the chaos following the Anglo-Zulu war. When Louis Botha became the first PM of South Africa almost his first act was to release Dinuzulu who had been imprisoned by the British, under accusations of being involved in the Bambatha rebellion (the last Zulu rebellion). Maybe Botha had taken an oath of loyalty to Dinuzulu.

The modern history of the north is completely different to the south (this is normal btw, west and east Germany, north and south Korea, southern and northern Ireland, southern and northern England, southern and northern USA). The north is rural and Zulu speaking, the south is urban and English/Zulu speaking. The whites you'll find in Durban/PMB aren't really the same as those you'll find in Newcastle/Vryheid. Quite easy to live in the south and never hear Afrikaans. It's the same for blacks, those from the north are far more traditional and more likely to support the IFP and someone like Jacob Zuma because he is Zulu, those from the south far more likely to support the ANC including its Xhosa leaders, and now far more likely to vote DA too (uMngeni where Rinkals is from/lives, is 75% black and majority Zulu speaking, they voted for a gay white man from a Greek background to be mayor, that doesn't happen in the north). When Jacob Zuma mocked "clever blacks" he was talking about those who speak English, live in a town/city, and are far less likely to vote for him ... he wasn't talking about the sort of rural people who are his neighbours in Nkandla that vote IFP but also support him.

The post is getting quite long, but there's also differences between Natalians (white English speakers from KZN) and English speakers from the Cape. The one liner is the those from the Cape tend to be richer and more comfortable with Afrikaans (Natalians including myself, are much more likely to know isiZulu than Afrikaans). Both have 1820 settlers in their backgrounds, but Natalians will often also have Germans and Voortrekkers in there, which they'll ignore and pump up whatever Celtic background there is instead. The Sharks used to have a kilted bagpipe band play before matches. I know of some mixed Zulu/Natalian and Indian/Natalian families (middle class went to the same schools), it seems that sort of thing doesn't happen with English speakers in the Cape from what I can tell.

All these differences end up (ironically) in a bit of a laager mentality among a certain type of Sharks supporter. Posters like Chilli and Saucer are Natalians that refuse to support the Sharks because of it. I've always found it amusing and just another reason to support them.

[Sandstorm]

tl;dr

[_Os_]

tl;dr

Just helping AJ out.

[Sandstorm]

tl;dr

Just helping AJ out.

Vrystaater. Use shorter sentences.

[Sards]

Can everyone please stop picking on AJ. Its a language issue. Nothing to see here

[average joe]

tl;dr

Just helping AJ out.

Vrystaater. Use shorter sentences.

And don't forget, a platelander. So, draw pictures too.

[OomStruisbaai]

Can everyone please stop picking on AJ. Its a language issue. Nothing to see here

but there's also differences between Natalians (white English speakers from KZN) and English speakers from the Cape. The one liner is the those from the Cape tend to be richer and more comfortable with Afrikaans (Natalians including myself, are much more likely to know isiZulu than Afrikaans). Both have 1820 settlers in their backgrounds, but Natalians will often also have Germans and Voortrekkers in there, which they'll ignore and pump up whatever Celtic background there is instead.

Sards are you the English Soutie from the Cape?

[_Os_]

Can everyone please stop picking on AJ. Its a language issue. Nothing to see here

Just chatting Sardy, only SS is having a pop, but he's a chippy Kapenaar so cannot help it.

And don't forget, a platelander. So, draw pictures too.

Plattelander has a double t, you've been chatting with me so much jou taal is slipping chief. There was nothing malicious in that comment, you seem to have taken it quite hard but it wasn't intended that way. There's many derogatory names souties have for Afrikaners, more than the reverse, that's not one of them. Afrikaners around our age and younger had to do a lot of introspection post-1994, souties basically didn't bother blamed everyone else and continued with the same attitudes more or less, which often means anti-Afrikaner bigotry. That's not me though, I find it embarrassing but also amusing in a laughing at it but not with it way. A lot of it sounds prehistoric.

Sards are you the English Soutie from the Cape?

He's hardly been discrete down the years. We all know he has an Afrikaans name but is an English speaker. That's normally a Cape Town/Joburg thing (although Sardy has lived in Durban, Musgrave from memory). People like that come in two types, the ones who are lekker (like Sardy), and the ones who it's best to steer clear of who have some self loathing thing going on and are quick to tell souties how much they hate Afrikaners (which always makes my "there's something really wrong with this guy!" alarm go off).

[average joe]

My Taal is not slipping. Sometimes I'm just too lazy to bother and it feeds the stereotype anyways and I like feeding. Being called a plattelander does not bother me at all, if it did, I would not be playing along sir Ox. Anyways I'm worse than a plattelander, I'm a maplotter too.

[OomStruisbaai]

He's hardly been discrete down the years. We all know he has an Afrikaans name but is an English speaker. That's normally a Cape Town/Joburg thing (although Sardy has lived in Durban, Musgrave from memory). People like that come in two types, the ones who are lekker (like Sardy), and the ones who it's best to steer clear of who have some self loathing thing going on and are quick to tell souties how much they hate Afrikaners (which always makes my "there's something really wrong with this guy!" alarm go off).

Nah Sards is a Kapenaar .

[Chilli]

He's hardly been discrete down the years. We all know he has an Afrikaans name but is an English speaker. That's normally a Cape Town/Joburg thing (although Sardy has lived in Durban, Musgrave from memory). People like that come in two types, the ones who are lekker (like Sardy), and the ones who it's best to steer clear of who have some self loathing thing going on and are quick to tell souties how much they hate Afrikaners (which always makes my "there's something really wrong with this guy!" alarm go off).

Nah Sards is a Kapenaar .

Sards?
He is from Mont Clair in Deben.

[OomStruisbaai]

He's hardly been discrete down the years. We all know he has an Afrikaans name but is an English speaker. That's normally a Cape Town/Joburg thing (although Sardy has lived in Durban, Musgrave from memory). People like that come in two types, the ones who are lekker (like Sardy), and the ones who it's best to steer clear of who have some self loathing thing going on and are quick to tell souties how much they hate Afrikaners (which always makes my "there's something really wrong with this guy!" alarm go off).

Nah Sards is a Kapenaar .

Sards?
He is from Mont Clair in Deben.

Thats a GrannyGate. He went to Cape Town High School. Spoeg en plak skool.

[Sards]

I am happy. Lived a good life. I just need to hang on till the kids get working in the business. Otherwise. Sweet. Never looked to be anyone other than who I am...." the hippy manufacturer ". That guy that creates art in kitchens. So background history means vokol.

[boere wors]

I am happy. Lived a good life. I just need to hang on till the kids get working in the business. Otherwise. Sweet. Never looked to be anyone other than who I am...." the hippy manufacturer ". That guy that creates art in kitchens. So background history means vokol.

Living, boet, living!
Nice post.

[LoveOfTheGame]

I am happy. Lived a good life. I just need to hang on till the kids get working in the business. Otherwise. Sweet. Never looked to be anyone other than who I am...." the hippy manufacturer ". That guy that creates art in kitchens. So background history means vokol.

Shouldn't that read 'the manufacturing hippy" Sards? Or do you run a little side hustle where you turn square working for the man types into tree hugging pot smoking types? Also, I know your deepest darkest secret. You are a WP man at heart. It boils to surface every now and again.

[Sards]

I am happy. Lived a good life. I just need to hang on till the kids get working in the business. Otherwise. Sweet. Never looked to be anyone other than who I am...." the hippy manufacturer ". That guy that creates art in kitchens. So background history means vokol.

Shouldn't that read 'the manufacturing hippy" Sards? Or do you run a little side hustle where you turn square working for the man types into tree hugging pot smoking types? Also, I know your deepest darkest secret. You are a WP man at heart. It boils to surface every now and again.

I never got the issue with weed. Unless you are that lazy oak that uses it as an excuse to lie around gaming all day. Its medicinal really. It makes me more tolerant and understanding of shit that I would normally blow a gasket for. It has probably saved me from going to jail , again. And its great for focus and creativity. If you have the drive to pursue the shit you dream up. But then I do it carefully. Measured for the quality or ratio mixed. You wont find me having a full joint. Three puffs and I am good for not killing my children over 3 hours. And for masking hidden urges and desires...great for sexual urges too.

[LoveOfTheGame]

I am happy. Lived a good life. I just need to hang on till the kids get working in the business. Otherwise. Sweet. Never looked to be anyone other than who I am...." the hippy manufacturer ". That guy that creates art in kitchens. So background history means vokol.

Shouldn't that read 'the manufacturing hippy" Sards? Or do you run a little side hustle where you turn square working for the man types into tree hugging pot smoking types? Also, I know your deepest darkest secret. You are a WP man at heart. It boils to surface every now and again.

I never got the issue with weed. Unless you are that lazy oak that uses it as an excuse to lie around gaming all day. Its medicinal really. It makes me more tolerant and understanding of shit that I would normally blow a gasket for. It has probably saved me from going to jail , again. And its great for focus and creativity. If you have the drive to pursue the shit you dream up. But then I do it carefully. Measured for the quality or ratio mixed. You wont find me having a full joint. Three puffs and I am good for not killing my children over 3 hours. And for masking hidden urges and desires...great for sexual urges too.

You're good man Sards, completely bonkers of course, but good.

[OomStruisbaai]

Oom, there's no Huw Jones in this photo.

only see this now. You can see WP Nel and Duhan vd Merwe is ou braaiers.

[Sards]

Oom, there's no Huw Jones in this photo.

only see this now. You can see WP Nel and Duhan vd Merwe is ou braaiers.

My first thought was they ran out of coals and threw wood on to save the braai.

[OomStruisbaai]

Oom, there's no Huw Jones in this photo.

only see this now. You can see WP Nel and Duhan vd Merwe is ou braaiers.

My first thought was they ran out of coals and threw wood on to save the braai.

They do steak by the look of it. Planke for wood.

[OomStruisbaai]

If the Springboks win on Saturday it will be massive.

[_Os_]

Got the bonus point, 4 try win against Tonga looks likely given how Ireland went against them. 15 points puts the Boks into the quarters (other than an extremely unlikely situation where Scotland win every remaining match with 4 tries, and Ireland get a bonus point against Scotland, which puts every team on 15 points and the tiebreaker becomes points difference, but the Bok points difference is already good anyway).

Schedule is:

1st of October, Tonga.
14th/15th of October, quarterfinal.

Three weeks of training before the quarter. That's similar to what the Boks usually get before the RC in the June/July tests. Plenty of time to restart and aim for the quarter.

My view is that Pollard now must start at 10. Libbok has done more than enough to be dropped, he's our goal kicker and cannot kick goals. Libbok didn't do any play making in this one on first viewing either. Logically he should be fighting with Le Roux for a bench spot as an impact play maker (I would be taking Le Roux and dropping Libbok out of the 23). Any other changes also get made, Duane surely has to start too or at least be in the 23, I would be thinking about Mapimpi starting too he's better on defence and in the air than Arendse. There'll be a lot of info in that loss and changes which can be made. All those changes get locked in at training, probably play against Tonga with a near first choice and replace everyone as soon as the win and bonus is secured.

Alternative is to continue as is, can't see that getting the Boks wins in three knockout matches.

[boere wors]

Goal kicking was the obvious problem but I am actually more worried about our hooker situation. We dominated the scrums and lineouts until Fourie came on. We then lost 1 of 2 lineouts and lost 3 scrums in a row. This was the main reason we couldnt make up the few points in the end. Pollard will come in for the kicking, but for hooker there is no quick fix. We are missing Marx big time it shows.

[Sards]

It's simple. We lost 2 important games with the same backline. Against the ABs in the RC and Ireland in the RWC.
That backline needs to be changed. I can imagine being a forward who works his butt off and our backline doesn't deliver
And agree about hooker. Too many " multi skilled " players who aren't as multi skilled as Rassnabber makes out.

I can't wait for the next Rassie tweet because he must be lekker embarrassed. Getting us all excited and failing

[Blake]

My view is that Pollard now must start at 10. Libbok has done more than enough to be dropped, he's our goal kicker and cannot kick goals. Libbok didn't do any play making in this one on first viewing either. Logically he should be fighting with Le Roux for a bench spot as an impact play maker (I would be taking Le Roux and dropping Libbok out of the 23).

I've been a big supporter of Libbok and still think he has a role to play, but ja, with Pollard back in the mix and considering the goal kicking woes, Manie will have to assume the backup 10 role like Elton did. It is what it is.

I think playmaking opportunities off 10 were limited last night, but Manie did alright on that front; don't really recall any mistakes and the long lefthand pass for the Kolbe try was a beaut. My gut feel is Pollard would have gone for the line himself and the try would have been called back for obstruction because of Kriel's check on Mac Hansen in the build up to that try. Anyway, it's all speculation.

DDA put in his best performance in a Bok jersey in ages. Before he reminded us how handy he can be, I thought a compromise might be Libbok at 10 and Pollard at 12 (since he's been playing there a lot lately anyway), but we should probably just put Manie out to pasture and hope Pollard doesn't break before we've got a new flyhalf understudy that's up to speed.

Any other changes also get made, Duane surely has to start too or at least be in the 23, I would be thinking about Mapimpi starting too he's better on defence and in the air than Arendse.

Agree on Vermeulen, especially towards the end. I think we lacked some leadership at the death with Siya, Eben and Bongi all off the fields. Nothing against Van Staden or Kwagga or Fourie, I think they all did well, but sometimes you just need somebody like Duane to calm the nerves.

Mapimpi is an excellent player, but Arendse was majestic in the air and his defence was good. Can't really fault him on much in that match. Not enough to drop him IMO, but it's much of muchness as far as I'm concerned. Not much in it, and if he gets the nod over Arendse I'm not going to be upset about it.

The tough call in the backs for me is Willemse vs Le Roux. You kind of have to get Willie back if Pollard starts to run the attacking plays with his distribution skills, but Willemse has improved a lot and seems to be more reliable at the back and under the high ball than Le Roux.

[Blake]

Goal kicking was the obvious problem but I am actually more worried about our hooker situation. We dominated the scrums and lineouts until Fourie came on. We then lost 1 of 2 lineouts and lost 3 scrums in a row. This was the main reason we couldnt make up the few points in the end. Pollard will come in for the kicking, but for hooker there is no quick fix. We are missing Marx big time it shows.

Ja, we invested so much in Marx and Bongi and they've been so good for so long that we've not really developed a 3rd hooker.

We had to go all in on one and Dweba seemed like the obvious choice, but he just didn't live up to the hype after he returned from France. To be honest I don't think he would have done any better than Fourie. The missed lineout was a sneaky trick play, and the scrum infringements were for early pushes. He didn't get dominated or shown up in any way really.

[_Os_]

I've been a big supporter of Libbok and still think he has a role to play, but ja, with Pollard back in the mix and considering the goal kicking woes, Manie will have to assume the backup 10 role like Elton did. It is what it is.

I think playmaking opportunities off 10 were limited last night, but Manie did alright on that front; don't really recall any mistakes and the long lefthand pass for the Kolbe try was a beaut. My gut feel is Pollard would have gone for the line himself and the try would have been called back for obstruction because of Kriel's check on Mac Hansen in the build up to that try. Anyway, it's all speculation.

DDA put in his best performance in a Bok jersey in ages. Before he reminded us how handy he can be, I thought a compromise might be Libbok at 10 and Pollard at 12 (since he's been playing there a lot lately anyway), but we should probably just put Manie out to pasture and hope Pollard doesn't break before we've got a new flyhalf understudy that's up to speed.

Doubt Pollard would've thrown the long pass, would've tried to break the line and offload.

De Allende is the best defender in the backline, Kriel also strong on defence. Can't replace them with weak defenders.

Agree on Vermeulen, especially towards the end. I think we lacked some leadership at the death with Siya, Eben and Bongi all off the fields. Nothing against Van Staden or Kwagga or Fourie, I think they all did well, but sometimes you just need somebody like Duane to calm the nerves.

Mapimpi is an excellent player, but Arendse was majestic in the air and his defence was good. Can't really fault him on much in that match. Not enough to drop him IMO, but it's much of muchness as far as I'm concerned. Not much in it, and if he gets the nod over Arendse I'm not going to be upset about it.

The tough call in the backs for me is Willemse vs Le Roux. You kind of have to get Willie back if Pollard starts to run the attacking plays with his distribution skills, but Willemse has improved a lot and seems to be more reliable at the back and under the high ball than Le Roux.

Mapimpi is stronger on defence (in the air and in contacts) than Arendse. There's also a theme developing which has been the case for years, where borderline stuff on our players goes unpunished. Suddenly when the Boks are playing stuff which would be called in other matches isn't. Against Scotland there were seatbelt tackles on our runners out wide which were borderline, and neck holds on our close in runners. In this one there was a shot to Wiese's head and something that looked very borderline to Arendse (when he was in the air?), although Ireland seemed much cleaner than Scotland generally on first viewing. I think Mapimpi can handle all that more.

Willemse has done more than enough to start, don't think 15 is his best position (that is inside centre), but does all the fullback tasks without errors. The bench is a 6/2 split, Reinach as the bench scrumhalf, remaining slot for backs is either Libbok or Le Roux. For me it's Le Roux, because 10 Pollard/12 Willemse/13 De Allende/15 Le Roux is a lot stronger than 10 Libbok/12 Pollard/13 De Allende/15 Willemse.

[_Os_]

10 Pollard/12 Willemse/13 De Allende/15 Le Roux

Could also just start with that, but Kriel is very underrated on defence (easily one of the most underrated Boks I can remember). It will make the place kicking as strong as it's going to be, and have Willemse in his best position. It's nothing radically different so could work. But it's ending a strong defencive combination in the centres of De Allende/Kriel.

Like I posted, they have three weeks and one match against Tonga. Have to make a call and stick to it. If they make a call that includes Libbok starting and Pollard not starting (Pollard must play the entire match as he's the only decent place kicker), then it's the wrong call. If they make a call that attempts too much which hasn't been tried before and new combinations, then it's also the wrong call.

[_Os_]

Pollard kicking at 85% since July 2022. Basically no difference between Libbok/Willemse/Kolbe/Faf, they're all around 60% kickers taking into account how many they've attempted (Kolbe less kicks than the others), Faf seems to be the only one with the range and balls to go for long range shots so that drives down his percentage. Libbok is kicking at 40% in RWC matches, much lower than for the Stomps because the Boks aren't going to score at will under the posts.

Anyone that doesn't want Pollard at 10 and playing the whole match, just isn't serious. Not possible to win three knockout games, basically three finals in a row, with at best 60% goal kickers. 40% in RWC matches and there's an actual discussion about not dropping this guy. Fuck me.

[boere wors]

Pollard kicking at 85% since July 2022. Basically no difference between Libbok/Willemse/Kolbe/Faf, they're all around 60% kickers taking into account how many they've attempted (Kolbe less kicks than the others), Faf seems to be the only one with the range and balls to go for long range shots so that drives down his percentage. Libbok is kicking at 40% in RWC matches, much lower than for the Stomps because the Boks aren't going to score at will under the posts.

Anyone that doesn't want Pollard at 10 and playing the whole match, just isn't serious. Not possible to win three knockout games, basically three finals in a row, with at best 60% goal kickers. 40% in RWC matches and there's an actual discussion about not dropping this guy. Fuck me.

Totally agree. Libbok is unsustainable, as good a playmaker he is. We would have easily won that game with pollard at 10. Our forwards are too good. That loss yesterday probably saved our asses, silver lining. Pollard will play against Tonga and train for 3 weeks now to be fit come the QF. Boks will go far.

[OomStruisbaai]

You lot think Pollard will save us. Good luck.

[boere wors]

You lot think Pollard will save us. Good luck.

what do you think would save us?

[OomStruisbaai]

You lot think Pollard will save us. Good luck.

what do you think would save us?

We need a proper midfield who understand attacking rugby. Scrumhalf with a quick service.

[boere wors]

You lot think Pollard will save us. Good luck.

what do you think would save us?

We need a proper midfield who understand attacking rugby. Scrumhalf with a quick service.

We only need someone who won't miss easy kicks at goal. We have Pollard who can do that, as limited as he is otherwise.
We would have easily won that game yesterday if we had a somewhat reliable kicker. No rocket science.

[OomStruisbaai]

what do you think would save us?

We need a proper midfield who understand attacking rugby. Scrumhalf with a quick service.

We only need someone who won't miss easy kicks at goal. We have Pollard who can do that, as limited as he is otherwise.
We would have easily won that game yesterday if we had a somewhat reliable kicker. No rocket science.

We would, we should, we could if my aunt had balls, she would be my uncle.

Help vokol. Do you think Pollard don't miss? We maybe should never scores a try with him in 10.

He will get his chance now. Let's see.

[Sandstorm]

Oom is right. Pass the ball in the mid-field and score tries. Then kicks at goal mean fokkol.

[_Os_]

Oom is right. Pass the ball in the mid-field and score tries. Then kicks at goal mean fokkol.

Os XV is a very clever side, they have noticed your place kicker is shooting at 40%, they have decided to cheat like fuck all the time because you cannot punish them. Os XV has now stopped you getting any useful ball.

[Sandstorm]

Oom is right. Pass the ball in the mid-field and score tries. Then kicks at goal mean fokkol.

Os XV is a very clever side, they have noticed your place kicker is shooting at 40%, they have decided to cheat like fuck all the time because you cannot punish them. Os XV has now stopped you getting any useful ball.

We have the best pack in the world. Possibly ever. It’s the backs where we’re losing and I don’t think it’s because of shots at goal.