Kicking off in Israel

[Raggs]

Israel has now given up its right to either defend itself, or have an independent state.

They have shown us over the last ...fucking forever..they are a blood thirsty murderous people who can all just fuck off.

Palistinain people have every single right to attack, hate and fuck up as many israelies as possible.

White supremacist Zionist, aparthied loving pricks need to be removed from this earth, en mass.. and sent back to South Africa, or wheree ver the fuck these scumbags are from.

The entire fucking world should be at War with Israel right now. We should have blockades, sanctions, no fly zones,and every single Israeli bank account, investment and asset should be frozen.

[Line6 HXFX]

Us welsh people were subjected to massive genocide dozens of times in our history,

No fucker gave us permission to do what the fuck we like,..as being accused of being anti welsh (like the accusation of being anti semetic) cripples all opposition and gives permission to our murderous criminal proclivities.. mass slaughter, illegal occupations and general "being massive wankers" base urges and impulses.

Sorry but time to put the victim card back in the fucking deck, you provocative, murdering zionistic, land stealing twats.
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[C69]

Us welsh people were subjected to massive genocide dozens of times in our history,

No fucker gave us permission to do what the fuck we like,..as being accused of being anti welsh (like the accusation of being anti semetic) cripples all opposition and gives permission to our murderous criminal proclivities.. mass slaughter, illegal occupations and general "being massive wankers" base urges and impulses.

Sorry but time to put the card back in the fucking deck you provocative, murdering zionistic, land stealing twats.
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Can you chronical these mass genocides perpetrated against our people please
I'm not wholly familiar with dozens of times tbh.
The systematic subjugation and attempts at cultural, economic and political destruction of Welsh identity I get.
The rape and plunder of our actual resources I get.
The beatings and humiliation of anyone speaking Welsh I get as well as the imprisonment and torture of children for speaking Welsh I get.
The oppression of Capitalism and Colonialism has made Wales England's catamite.
But the dozens of genocides?

[Ymx]

I’m sure everyone has already seen this, but it really doesn’t bode well for peace



This was done quite some time back before the large scale counter assault, I believe. But need to check.

[Slick]

I’m sure everyone has already seen this, but it really doesn’t bode well for peace



This was done quite some time back before the large scale counter assault, I believe. But need to check.

Supported what?

[Line6 HXFX]

When I was in the armed forces (air cadets..1982-1987) we learned that our job essentially, as military, even during the cold war where we could have nukes landing on our heads at any second)l is to ignore the politics leave that to politicians... our basic fundemental duty is just get between the murderers and the "being murdered".


This simple basic noble understanding, gave our armed services (who let's be honest, are responsible for untold fucking horrors throughout the global theatre. 49 times over) a strong moral purpose when I was growing up.

We were never to stand on the fucking sidelines..we were there to basically stop the murder.


Get between the murderers and those innocents being murdered...

Why the fuck can't we do this?

It is more than obvious who the illegal occupiers and oportunistic murderers are, and who are the people being crushed..because someone thinks it is good for his election chances.

[Raggs]

When I was in the armed forces (air cadets..1982-1987)

stop! I'm going to wet myself!

[Sandstorm]

When I was in the armed forces (air cadets..1982-1987)

stop! I'm going to wet myself!

[Slick]

When I was in the armed forces (air cadets..1982-1987)

stop! I'm going to wet myself!

You sometimes have to look hard, but many of his posts have hidden gems

[Blackmac]

When I was in the armed forces (air cadets..1982-1987)

stop! I'm going to wet myself!

Genuinely mental.

[Ymx]

I’m sure everyone has already seen this, but it really doesn’t bode well for peace



This was done quite some time back before the large scale counter assault, I believe. But need to check.

Supported what?

The Hamas attacks on Israel on Oct 7 (header of chart)

[C69]

I’m sure everyone has already seen this, but it really doesn’t bode well for peace



This was done quite some time back before the large scale counter assault, I believe. But need to check.

Supported what?

The Hamas attacks on Israel on Oct 7 (header of chart)

How was this poll conducted, by who and what was exactly asked?

[Ymx]

It was conducted by “Arab World for Research and Development (AWRAD)” on a sample from both Gaza and Westbank.

https://www.awrad.org/files/server/poll ... 202023.pdf

https://www.awrad.org/files/server/poll ... لنتائج.pdf

[Slick]

I’m sure everyone has already seen this, but it really doesn’t bode well for peace



This was done quite some time back before the large scale counter assault, I believe. But need to check.

Supported what?

The Hamas attacks on Israel on Oct 7 (header of chart)

Ahh, didn’t show on my phone

[bogbunny]

I’m sure everyone has already seen this, but it really doesn’t bode well for peace



This was done quite some time back before the large scale counter assault, I believe. But need to check.

Supported what?

The Hamas attacks on Israel on Oct 7 (header of chart)

They are reaping what the sowed.

[Ymx]

Supported what?

The Hamas attacks on Israel on Oct 7 (header of chart)

They are reaping what the sowed.

A very Irish take, it would seem.

[Rhubarb & Custard]

They intend for the entire palistinian Arab people to die in the desert.
This is what is happening.

Where the fuck is the UN. Nato. The EU. The U.K?
If not, would anyone really care if China or Iran just turned up and stopped these murderous, zionist Israeli wankers?

At this point I genuinely couldn't give a fuck who bombs Israeli airbases.

I'd care, not least as we'd likely then be at war with whomever had attacked Israel.

But just to give some context, since the current state of Israel was born the Palestinian population has increased by as much as ten-fold, certain it'd seven to eight. And then too you're rather overlooking, or perhaps just pig ignorant, of how many Palestinians live in Israel (mind in some sense so are Israel when they used to and probably still do register them as Arab Israeli not Palestinian Israeli, but were one to ask any number of them I'd venture they'd say Palestinian, and still more so today). So if Israel's plan is to kill all Palestinian Arabs they are going about it in very peculiar fashion.

I can't say I like what Israel are doing, not in isolation, then I'm worried it'll not work anyway, and I'm worried they're not perhaps clear on what the intended outcome is, certainly not one within the realms of reality. But you sunshine are spouting bollocks, the population of Palestinians is well up, they are giving some notice for people to move, and whilst the death toll is shocking it's some small amount of the whole.

How dare the Palestinians procreate.
1.7m moved to safety now they are not safe.
Move to a place fit for 200,000 or the desert or stay and die.
That is the notice to move according to the UN.
Death will come to thousands from disease as they have no sanitation and disease is rife

I don't recall saying they shouldn't fuck.

I noted that the massive growth in population suggests Israel is remotely carrying out a genocide, or at least I associate genocide with reducing a population, and maybe that's just me

Though fwiw some temperance on the fucking front would be useful, whether from a developing their nation standpoint, or frankly just from a global warming standpoint as we really wouldn't want population surges like Palestine's. I accept there are issues developing Gaza when Israel blockades so much it can in some sense be equated with a mass open air prison, but there's a lot of money notionally being pumped into Gaza delivering little if not no benefit for the territory.

[Tichtheid]

I'd care, not least as we'd likely then be at war with whomever had attacked Israel.

But just to give some context, since the current state of Israel was born the Palestinian population has increased by as much as ten-fold, certain it'd seven to eight. And then too you're rather overlooking, or perhaps just pig ignorant, of how many Palestinians live in Israel (mind in some sense so are Israel when they used to and probably still do register them as Arab Israeli not Palestinian Israeli, but were one to ask any number of them I'd venture they'd say Palestinian, and still more so today). So if Israel's plan is to kill all Palestinian Arabs they are going about it in very peculiar fashion.

I can't say I like what Israel are doing, not in isolation, then I'm worried it'll not work anyway, and I'm worried they're not perhaps clear on what the intended outcome is, certainly not one within the realms of reality. But you sunshine are spouting bollocks, the population of Palestinians is well up, they are giving some notice for people to move, and whilst the death toll is shocking it's some small amount of the whole.

How dare the Palestinians procreate.
1.7m moved to safety now they are not safe.
Move to a place fit for 200,000 or the desert or stay and die.
That is the notice to move according to the UN.
Death will come to thousands from disease as they have no sanitation and disease is rife

I don't recall saying they shouldn't fuck.

I noted that the massive growth in population suggests Israel is remotely carrying out a genocide, or at least I associate genocide with reducing a population, and maybe that's just me

Though fwiw some temperance on the fucking front would be useful, whether from a developing their nation standpoint, or frankly just from a global warming standpoint as we really wouldn't want population surges like Palestine's. I accept there are issues developing Gaza when Israel blockades so much it can in some sense be equated with a mass open air prison, but there's a lot of money notionally being pumped into Gaza delivering little if not no benefit for the territory.

According to this source, the Jewish population of Israel/Palestine has increased from around 700K to 7 million since 1948

https://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/je ... 17-present

[Tichtheid]

It was conducted by “Arab World for Research and Development (AWRAD)” on a sample from both Gaza and Westbank.

https://www.awrad.org/files/server/poll ... 202023.pdf

https://www.awrad.org/files/server/poll ... لنتائج.pdf

There are a lot of variables in that, for a start the polling was being taken up to a month after Oct. 7th, a month of retribution where 100% of respondents said they had no safe space to avoid the threat of death in their own homes and it's not clear if the respondents knew exactly what had happened on Oct 7th.

[Raggs]

How dare the Palestinians procreate.
1.7m moved to safety now they are not safe.
Move to a place fit for 200,000 or the desert or stay and die.
That is the notice to move according to the UN.
Death will come to thousands from disease as they have no sanitation and disease is rife

I don't recall saying they shouldn't fuck.

I noted that the massive growth in population suggests Israel is remotely carrying out a genocide, or at least I associate genocide with reducing a population, and maybe that's just me

Though fwiw some temperance on the fucking front would be useful, whether from a developing their nation standpoint, or frankly just from a global warming standpoint as we really wouldn't want population surges like Palestine's. I accept there are issues developing Gaza when Israel blockades so much it can in some sense be equated with a mass open air prison, but there's a lot of money notionally being pumped into Gaza delivering little if not no benefit for the territory.

According to this source, the Jewish population of Israel/Palestine has increased from around 700K to 7 million since 1948

https://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/je ... 17-present

Yep. Jews went from about 16m total before the Holocaust, down to about 10 million, and have now got back to about 16m again.

A very large amount in Israel have been through immigration. To start with, the near million that were forced/encouraged to leave middle East countries (from around 48 to the 60s I believe), which is why there's barely any left in the middle East outside of Israel. Then another 1.3 million came in from Russia, most of those in the 90s. It's around 4m Jews in Israel from immigration and those there in 1948, then an extra 3m from "breeding".

No one has tried to claim the Israel has been undergoing a genocide in the meantime though (despite a couple of attempts to at least ethnically cleanse).

[Raggs]

It was conducted by “Arab World for Research and Development (AWRAD)” on a sample from both Gaza and Westbank.

https://www.awrad.org/files/server/poll ... 202023.pdf

https://www.awrad.org/files/server/poll ... لنتائج.pdf

There are a lot of variables in that, for a start the polling was being taken up to a month after Oct. 7th, a month of retribution where 100% of respondents said they had no safe space to avoid the threat of death in their own homes and it's not clear if the respondents knew exactly what had happened on Oct 7th.

There were public showings on big screens, of what Hamas did on October 7th. I suspect they were fairly aware. The crowds cheering in the street as corpses were paraded in pickup trucks etc.

[Tichtheid]

I don't recall saying they shouldn't fuck.

I noted that the massive growth in population suggests Israel is remotely carrying out a genocide, or at least I associate genocide with reducing a population, and maybe that's just me

Though fwiw some temperance on the fucking front would be useful, whether from a developing their nation standpoint, or frankly just from a global warming standpoint as we really wouldn't want population surges like Palestine's. I accept there are issues developing Gaza when Israel blockades so much it can in some sense be equated with a mass open air prison, but there's a lot of money notionally being pumped into Gaza delivering little if not no benefit for the territory.

According to this source, the Jewish population of Israel/Palestine has increased from around 700K to 7 million since 1948

https://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/je ... 17-present

Yep. Jews went from about 16m total before the Holocaust, down to about 10 million, and have now got back to about 16m again.

A very large amount in Israel have been through immigration. To start with, the near million that were forced/encouraged to leave middle East countries (from around 48 to the 60s I believe), which is why there's barely any left in the middle East outside of Israel. Then another 1.3 million came in from Russia, most of those in the 90s. It's around 4m Jews in Israel from immigration and those there in 1948, then an extra 3m from "breeding".

No one has tried to claim the Israel has been undergoing a genocide in the meantime though (despite a couple of attempts to at least ethnically cleanse).

I'm not sure of the relevance of your last sentence, R&C presented the ten-fold increase in Palestinian population as "a bad thing". My only point is the the Israeli/Palestinian Jewish population has increased by the same factor .

[Tichtheid]

It was conducted by “Arab World for Research and Development (AWRAD)” on a sample from both Gaza and Westbank.

https://www.awrad.org/files/server/poll ... 202023.pdf

https://www.awrad.org/files/server/poll ... لنتائج.pdf

There are a lot of variables in that, for a start the polling was being taken up to a month after Oct. 7th, a month of retribution where 100% of respondents said they had no safe space to avoid the threat of death in their own homes and it's not clear if the respondents knew exactly what had happened on Oct 7th.

There were public showings on big screens, of what Hamas did on October 7th. I suspect they were fairly aware. The crowds cheering in the street as corpses were paraded in pickup trucks etc.

You'd have to ask the respondents to the survey if they'd seen those. I'm not saying they didn't btw, just that I don't know if they did, and if they did, you'd have to ask why they approved of the attacks

[Rhubarb & Custard]

According to this source, the Jewish population of Israel/Palestine has increased from around 700K to 7 million since 1948

https://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/je ... 17-present

Yep. Jews went from about 16m total before the Holocaust, down to about 10 million, and have now got back to about 16m again.

A very large amount in Israel have been through immigration. To start with, the near million that were forced/encouraged to leave middle East countries (from around 48 to the 60s I believe), which is why there's barely any left in the middle East outside of Israel. Then another 1.3 million came in from Russia, most of those in the 90s. It's around 4m Jews in Israel from immigration and those there in 1948, then an extra 3m from "breeding".

No one has tried to claim the Israel has been undergoing a genocide in the meantime though (despite a couple of attempts to at least ethnically cleanse).

I'm not sure of the relevance of your last sentence, R&C presented the ten-fold increase in Palestinian population as "a bad thing". My only point is the the Israeli/Palestinian Jewish population has increased by the same factor .

I did not as such present it as a bad thing, I presented it as suggestive that Israel wasn't carrying out genocide. If you wish to equate not carrying out genocide with being a bad thing, well those are your thoughts, and you're welcome to them.

[Tichtheid]

Yep. Jews went from about 16m total before the Holocaust, down to about 10 million, and have now got back to about 16m again.

A very large amount in Israel have been through immigration. To start with, the near million that were forced/encouraged to leave middle East countries (from around 48 to the 60s I believe), which is why there's barely any left in the middle East outside of Israel. Then another 1.3 million came in from Russia, most of those in the 90s. It's around 4m Jews in Israel from immigration and those there in 1948, then an extra 3m from "breeding".

No one has tried to claim the Israel has been undergoing a genocide in the meantime though (despite a couple of attempts to at least ethnically cleanse).

I'm not sure of the relevance of your last sentence, R&C presented the ten-fold increase in Palestinian population as "a bad thing". My only point is the the Israeli/Palestinian Jewish population has increased by the same factor .

I did not as such present it as a bad thing, I presented it as suggestive that Israel wasn't carrying out genocide. If you wish to equate not carrying out genocide with being a bad thing, well those are your thoughts, and you're welcome to them.

Oh gtf you arse

[Calculon]

There are a lot of variables in that, for a start the polling was being taken up to a month after Oct. 7th, a month of retribution where 100% of respondents said they had no safe space to avoid the threat of death in their own homes and it's not clear if the respondents knew exactly what had happened on Oct 7th.

There were public showings on big screens, of what Hamas did on October 7th. I suspect they were fairly aware. The crowds cheering in the street as corpses were paraded in pickup trucks etc.

You'd have to ask the respondents to the survey if they'd seen those. I'm not saying they didn't btw, just that I don't know if they did, and if they did, you'd have to ask why they approved of the attacks

Probably same reason most Muslims hold anti-Semitic views, and many support, or at least justify the Hamas attack.

After all Hamas is also a religious organisation that calls for the destruction of Jews based on their (arguably correct) interpretation of Islam. Together with the idea of Israel being on “Islamic Land” and it being an obstacle to Arab/Muslim unity, all that “ummah” stuff.

For over a thousand years Jews were oppressed, second-class people, viewed with contempt by the Islamic world and condemned by the Koran as inferior and to be ruled over by Muslims . Now, within a short space of time with the emergence of Isreal they are clearly stronger and wealthier. Many Muslims thus see them as an existential threat to Islam and their Muslim cultural identity. The rulers of Hamas and other Islamic governments also find the Jews/Israel useful scapegoats to distract from their own incompetence and corruption, so anti Jew/Israel propaganda is pretty much non-stop indoctrinating their populations. Combined with conspiracy theories of the Jews wanting to destroy Islam and Western derived conspiracy theories of World Jewry you have a potent mix of hate and fear, on a level that has fortunately become alien to most people in the West.

[Ymx]

Only 13% condemned the Hamas attack.

This is quite telling, how they are teaching their own children.

[Uncle fester]

Only 13% condemned the Hamas attack.

This is quite telling, how they are teaching their own children.

Israel are working hard to reduce that number further.

[Ymx]

Did you watch the video? Children excited about stabbing and running over Jews.

Hamas need to be completely removed. The whole area needs to be de-radicalised.

Else there will be a continuous Oct 7 attacks. As well as the existing regular attempts at killing Jews.

[C69]

Did you watch the video? Children excited about stabbing and running over Jews.

Hamas need to be completely removed. The whole area needs to be de-radicalised.

Else there will be a continuous Oct 7 attacks. As well as the existing regular attempts at killing Jews.

How do you de -radicalise the Israeli settlers and right wingers?
Kill them? bomb the shit out of their homes and the Knesset?

[Slick]

have now got back to about 16m again.

Are there really only around 16M Jews in the world?

[Raggs]

have now got back to about 16m again.

Are there really only around 16M Jews in the world?

Depends on the count you check, but yeah, maybe a little lower. 7m in Israel, 6m in USA, and the rest scattered around the rest of the world. Still not back to pre-holocaust numbers (as I said, higher end of 16m).

[Slick]

have now got back to about 16m again.

Are there really only around 16M Jews in the world?

Depends on the count you check, but yeah, maybe a little lower. 7m in Israel, 6m in USA, and the rest scattered around the rest of the world. Still not back to pre-holocaust numbers (as I said, higher end of 16m).

I should have probably known that, but I'm amazed.

[Ymx]

[Ymx]

Did you watch the video? Children excited about stabbing and running over Jews.

Hamas need to be completely removed. The whole area needs to be de-radicalised.

Else there will be a continuous Oct 7 attacks. As well as the existing regular attempts at killing Jews.

How do you de -radicalise the Israeli settlers and right wingers?
Kill them? bomb the shit out of their homes and the Knesset?

I shouldn’t engage, such was the stupid in the post.

The Jewish/Israelis have settled everywhere else in this world without such problems.

He might be a prick but he’s right here ….

[Line6 HXFX]

I reckon the IDF will realise suddenly, like that Mitchell and Webb sketch, that "hey are we the bad guys", I mean they are illegally occupying and murdering innocent civilians, seemingly the more innocent dead kids the better.. and netenyaho seems like a massive murdering wanker, who spent most of his life provoking arabs, through starvtion, dehydration, homelessnes aparthied and just flat out murder.
There are only so many kids you can hit with your tank, or GBU 24 from 30 thousand feet.

"Did we kill him, that wasn't a lot of blood? Oh it was just a little kid...there wouldn't be, remember your training about killing little kids?"


I mean even as a IDF shit head, these sort of conversations have to start affecting you at some point right?

[Deepsouth]

They have been given many opportunities but they refuse the laurel wreath.

What can you do with a people like that......

[Deepsouth]

I reckon the IDF will realise suddenly, like that Mitchell and Webb sketch, that "hey are we the bad guys", I mean they are illegally occupying and murdering innocent civilians, seemingly the more innocent dead kids the better.. and netenyaho seems like a massive murdering wanker, who spent most of his life provoking arabs, through starvtion, dehydration, homelessnes aparthied and just flat out murder.
There are only so many kids you can hit with your tank, or GBU 24 from 30 thousand feet.

"Did we kill him, that wasn't a lot of blood? Oh it was just a little kid...there wouldn't be, remember your training about killing little kids?"


I mean even as a IDF shit head, these sort of conversations have to start affecting you at some point right?

Maybe, if you were once went to bed camp......

[Deepsouth]

Sorry band camp

[Enzedder]

have now got back to about 16m again.

Are there really only around 16M Jews in the world?

Yep, possible a little less than that - with 13m in Israel and USA