I guess that Marler and Genge who are both also injured are further along the recovery path than Martin?Margin__Walker wrote: ↑Wed Jan 17, 2024 10:34 amYeah. Minor knee issue apparently. Hopefully wont keep him out of the whole thing.
the rehabilitation list which features George Martin, Anthony Watson, Manu Tuilagi, Jack van Poortvliet and Raffi Quirke.
I'd almost forgotten about van Poortvliet.SaintK wrote: ↑Wed Jan 17, 2024 12:22 pmI guess that Marler and Genge who are both also injured are further along the recovery path than Martin?Margin__Walker wrote: ↑Wed Jan 17, 2024 10:34 amYeah. Minor knee issue apparently. Hopefully wont keep him out of the whole thing.
Edit:
Just seen this.the rehabilitation list which features George Martin, Anthony Watson, Manu Tuilagi, Jack van Poortvliet and Raffi Quirke.
Fisilau cleared tpo play this morningSaintK wrote: ↑Mon Jan 15, 2024 5:43 pm Barbeary cited for both cards. The low end entry point ban for both offences is two weeks
Greg Fisilau of Exeterr who was name checked by Borthwick has also been cited for his yellow card
Both being heard on WEdnesday
https://www.rugbypass.com/news/alfie-b ... ed-card/
He box kicks rhe leather off it and has a slow pass so he's a shoo in once he's fit, he would have been first choice in the RWC if not for the injury.inactionman wrote: ↑Wed Jan 17, 2024 12:49 pmI'd almost forgotten about van Poortvliet.SaintK wrote: ↑Wed Jan 17, 2024 12:22 pmI guess that Marler and Genge who are both also injured are further along the recovery path than Martin?Margin__Walker wrote: ↑Wed Jan 17, 2024 10:34 am
Yeah. Minor knee issue apparently. Hopefully wont keep him out of the whole thing.
Edit:
Just seen this.the rehabilitation list which features George Martin, Anthony Watson, Manu Tuilagi, Jack van Poortvliet and Raffi Quirke.
Where does he fit in now? I was a little underwhelmed by some of his performances(although that tended to be in a misfiring team) - is Mitchell and the likes of Spencer keeping his seat warm or have they overtaken him?
I've spent the last 18-24 months thinking we might as well pick Freeman there because he offered something and looked a little slow on the wing. But between the two we might have the makings of a centre pairing, which led me to wondering just how often England have picked (have even been able to pick) two centres with decent physicality and speed? Now just the minor quibble of can they play rugby and make decisions at test level, luckily as I recall from conversions around Burgess that latter part is easy
Barbeary banned for 6 weeks forthe first red card citing, reduced to 3 because of his good previous record. Second card citing dismissed.SaintK wrote: ↑Wed Jan 17, 2024 1:00 pmFisilau cleared tpo play this morningSaintK wrote: ↑Mon Jan 15, 2024 5:43 pm Barbeary cited for both cards. The low end entry point ban for both offences is two weeks
Greg Fisilau of Exeterr who was name checked by Borthwick has also been cited for his yellow card
Both being heard on WEdnesday
https://www.rugbypass.com/news/alfie-b ... ed-card/
Barbeary up in front of the panel this afternoon
So that'll be 2 weeks with the tackle school I guess?SaintK wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2024 1:26 pmBarbeary banned for 6 weeks forthe first red card citing, reduced to 3 because of his good previous record. Second card citing dismissed.SaintK wrote: ↑Wed Jan 17, 2024 1:00 pmFisilau cleared tpo play this morningSaintK wrote: ↑Mon Jan 15, 2024 5:43 pm Barbeary cited for both cards. The low end entry point ban for both offences is two weeks
Greg Fisilau of Exeterr who was name checked by Borthwick has also been cited for his yellow card
Both being heard on WEdnesday
https://www.rugbypass.com/news/alfie-b ... ed-card/
Barbeary up in front of the panel this afternoon
Could be free to play in the A team match in February
Yeah - putting a cricket score on Portugal isn't going to tell us much about the fringe and upcoming players. If they can't find sides like the Wolfhounds to play, they'd be better off organising a Premiership Baa Baas side to play against - might even draw in a decent crowd.Raggs wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2024 1:27 pmSo that'll be 2 weeks with the tackle school I guess?
As much as I like the idea of the A team getting a run out. It's Portugal, and whilst they aren't complete no names, it's not far off. Is there another A team game scheduled? Against maybe a wolfhounds team etc?
Freeman... slow? When did that happen?Rhubarb & Custard wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2024 10:13 amI've spent the last 18-24 months thinking we might as well pick Freeman there because he offered something and looked a little slow on the wing. But between the two we might have the makings of a centre pairing, which led me to wondering just how often England have picked (have even been able to pick) two centres with decent physicality and speed? Now just the minor quibble of can they play rugby and make decisions at test level, luckily as I recall from conversions around Burgess that latter part is easy
Yeah - he's great for Quins but he's still a rookie - he won't make the cut but definitely one for the future.JM2K6 wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2024 5:30 pmFreeman... slow? When did that happen?Rhubarb & Custard wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2024 10:13 amI've spent the last 18-24 months thinking we might as well pick Freeman there because he offered something and looked a little slow on the wing. But between the two we might have the makings of a centre pairing, which led me to wondering just how often England have picked (have even been able to pick) two centres with decent physicality and speed? Now just the minor quibble of can they play rugby and make decisions at test level, luckily as I recall from conversions around Burgess that latter part is easy
And I don't see how Beard/Freeman makes a centre pairing, unless I'm misunderstanding you. Neither of them are 12s.
Beard is a schoolboy 13 who was playing wing early on for Quins but 13 is definitely his preferred position. I'd prefer it if he didn't go walkabout in defence so often but I'm pleased he's kicked on in recent weeks. He's not a live international option, though, he's far too callow. Definitely has what it takes to compete physically at the top level, which is great, but he started the season as 3rd choice at Quins behind Northmore and Joseph, and both of those players are currently far better attackers and more assured defenders.
1 try in 870 minutes of rugby this season is not prime attacking form... Joseph has 5 tries in 10 matches and we all know what Northmore can do.
The RFU only have the Portugal game listed, which seems a shame.Raggs wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2024 1:27 pmSo that'll be 2 weeks with the tackle school I guess?
As much as I like the idea of the A team getting a run out. It's Portugal, and whilst they aren't complete no names, it's not far off. Is there another A team game scheduled? Against maybe a wolfhounds team etc?
We could definitely do with a 13 in the squad...
Newcastle Falcons have appointed Steve Diamond as consultant director of rugby with current boss Alex Codling to step down from his role.
Forwards coach Micky Ward will take charge of the club on an interim basis for their games against Perpignan and Northampton before Diamond arrives.
Diamond, 54, will also continue his consultancy role at the RFU in addition to taking over at Kingston Park.
Like using a bucket to bail out the Titanic.SaintK wrote: ↑Fri Jan 19, 2024 10:49 am Codling gone from Falcons.
Steve Diamond in. I guess if anyone can turn their fortunes round it's him. Falcon's players in for a hard ride!!!!Newcastle Falcons have appointed Steve Diamond as consultant director of rugby with current boss Alex Codling to step down from his role.
Forwards coach Micky Ward will take charge of the club on an interim basis for their games against Perpignan and Northampton before Diamond arrives.
Diamond, 54, will also continue his consultancy role at the RFU in addition to taking over at Kingston Park.
Gloucester number eight Zach Mercer says he is "done" with England for now after missing out on selection for the forthcoming Six Nations Championship.
Mercer, who won two caps in 2018, returned to the Premiership this season after two years in France, with the aim of playing for his country again.
He was also overlooked for a place in the World Cup squad last autumn.
The 26-year-old said he does not feel head coach Steve Borthwick "values what he can offer" as a player.
"I'm older, more mature, I put the international selection aside now, I'm done for the time being with that and I'm just going to focus on Gloucester," Mercer told BBC Sport.
Yeah; unless he had been approached with some kind of credible indications that he'd be in the squad, it's hard to understand. It's not like the Premiership is swimming in money at the moSaintK wrote: ↑Fri Jan 19, 2024 3:02 pm Should have stayed in France mate?Gloucester number eight Zach Mercer says he is "done" with England for now after missing out on selection for the forthcoming Six Nations Championship.
Mercer, who won two caps in 2018, returned to the Premiership this season after two years in France, with the aim of playing for his country again.
He was also overlooked for a place in the World Cup squad last autumn.
The 26-year-old said he does not feel head coach Steve Borthwick "values what he can offer" as a player.
"I'm older, more mature, I put the international selection aside now, I'm done for the time being with that and I'm just going to focus on Gloucester," Mercer told BBC Sport.
Since when was that a prerequisite for being selected by scabnose ??sockwithaticket wrote: ↑Fri Jan 19, 2024 4:03 pm And perhaps signed with a better club and shown more form.
He clearly wanted to have a crack at the world cup, but he gave himself one season at a middling club (who ended up having a particularly poor year) to break into the national team whose back row was a rare area of real depth.fishfoodie wrote: ↑Fri Jan 19, 2024 3:45 pmYeah; unless he had been approached with some kind of credible indications that he'd be in the squad, it's hard to understand. It's not like the Premiership is swimming in money at the moSaintK wrote: ↑Fri Jan 19, 2024 3:02 pm Should have stayed in France mate?Gloucester number eight Zach Mercer says he is "done" with England for now after missing out on selection for the forthcoming Six Nations Championship.
Mercer, who won two caps in 2018, returned to the Premiership this season after two years in France, with the aim of playing for his country again.
He was also overlooked for a place in the World Cup squad last autumn.
The 26-year-old said he does not feel head coach Steve Borthwick "values what he can offer" as a player.
"I'm older, more mature, I put the international selection aside now, I'm done for the time being with that and I'm just going to focus on Gloucester," Mercer told BBC Sport.
Well, if he wanted to get picked regardless of form he should've had the nous to sign for Sarries or Tigers...fishfoodie wrote: ↑Fri Jan 19, 2024 4:11 pmSince when was that a prerequisite for being selected by scabnose ??sockwithaticket wrote: ↑Fri Jan 19, 2024 4:03 pm And perhaps signed with a better club and shown more form.
When was his last England cap? Aski’n 4 a friend..SaintK wrote: ↑Fri Jan 19, 2024 3:02 pm Should have stayed in France mate?Gloucester number eight Zach Mercer says he is "done" with England for now after missing out on selection for the forthcoming Six Nations Championship.
Mercer, who won two caps in 2018, returned to the Premiership this season after two years in France, with the aim of playing for his country again.
He was also overlooked for a place in the World Cup squad last autumn.
The 26-year-old said he does not feel head coach Steve Borthwick "values what he can offer" as a player.
"I'm older, more mature, I put the international selection aside now, I'm done for the time being with that and I'm just going to focus on Gloucester," Mercer told BBC Sport.
2018. So he'd be free to represent any other nation he's eligible for, but that wouldn't include Scotland. Nation switching requires the player to be born there or a heritage link, Mercer only ever qualified for Scotland on residency.Slick wrote: ↑Fri Jan 19, 2024 4:30 pmWhen was his last England cap? Aski’n 4 a friend..SaintK wrote: ↑Fri Jan 19, 2024 3:02 pm Should have stayed in France mate?Gloucester number eight Zach Mercer says he is "done" with England for now after missing out on selection for the forthcoming Six Nations Championship.
Mercer, who won two caps in 2018, returned to the Premiership this season after two years in France, with the aim of playing for his country again.
He was also overlooked for a place in the World Cup squad last autumn.
The 26-year-old said he does not feel head coach Steve Borthwick "values what he can offer" as a player.
"I'm older, more mature, I put the international selection aside now, I'm done for the time being with that and I'm just going to focus on Gloucester," Mercer told BBC Sport.
I certainly wasn’t thinking of that. Disgusting..sockwithaticket wrote: ↑Fri Jan 19, 2024 4:37 pm2018. So he'd be free to represent any other nation he's eligible for, but that wouldn't include Scotland. Nation switching requires the player to be born there or a heritage link, Mercer only ever qualified for Scotland on residency.
Fresh start all round. Time for the younger FHS to show their mettle - build a side around the two Smiths.
And time for us to actually address the 12 issue rather than stick Farrell there as a compromise solution that doesn't get the best out of him or the 10 selected.Ovals wrote: ↑Mon Jan 22, 2024 7:10 pmFresh start all round. Time for the younger FHS to show their mettle - build a side around the two Smiths.
