I’m not bitching. It’s just that 2008-2012 was the greatest Stags era in my 40+ years on the planet. A golden generation of home grown talent regularly beating the big boys. Even in 2013 & 14 we were knocking over Canterbury / Waikato and still making semi finals. 2015 the rot set in and we seemed to really struggle elevating home grown players into genuine NPC quality. The money dried up tooTurbster wrote: ↑Sat Sep 26, 2020 11:40 amAnd anyway... why are we bitching at each other? We're both on the same side aren't we?Turbster wrote: ↑Sat Sep 26, 2020 11:26 amOnly the most one-eyed would say it's not been a miserable last ten years, and even winning the shield twice (I think) during that time didn't paper over the cracks. Southland, and I hate to say it, has been used alternately as a doormat, and a nursery by the bigger unions actually ever since the game went pro, but I'll not whinge about it. As I tried to get across in what I wrote, and obviously missed my target, the best thing was seeing the backs 'with the confidence to run' late in the game... and that is something that only comes with belief.
2020 Mitre 10 Cup Thread
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Wasn't able to watch the Canterbury vs HB match live, but recorded it and was going to watch it this morning. That idea was scuppered when I heard the result. As all Canterbury fans have pointed out, this year's squad is relatively weak, and we won't be in the picture to challenge for the title we find a decent no.10 to replace Mo'unga. This squad was weak even when it's All Blacks were included, but without them it's a mid to lower table team. We will just need to comfort ourselves over summer with our Super Rugby title four-peat.
Taranaki's first Shield defence kicks off at 2:05pm.
Taranaki:
1-Jared Proffit, 2-Bradley Slater, 3-Reuben O'Neill, 4-Josh Lord, 5-Tupou Vaa'i, 6-Mitchell Crosswell, 7-Lachlan Boshier, 8-Kaylum Boshier, 9-Lisati Milo-Harris, 10-Jayson Potroz, 11-Lewis Ormand, 12-Tei Walden, 13-Sean Wainui, 14-Jacob Raumaitayuki-Kneepkens, 15-Stephen Perofeta
Reserves: 16-Ricky Riccitelli, 17-Chris Gawler, 18-Donald Brighouse, 19-Findlamor Hoeata, 20-Tom Florence, 21-Kylem O'Donnell, 22-Daniel Waite, 23-Brayton Northcott-Hill
Otago:
1-George Bower, 2-:Liam Coltman, 3-Josh Hohneck, 4-Jack Regan, 5-Will Tucker, 6-Charles Eaton, 7-Slade McDowall, 8-Dylan Nel, 9-Kayne Hammngton, 10-Josh Ioane, 11-Jona Nareki, 12-Aleki Morris-Lome, 13-Michael Collins, 14-Freedom Vahaakolo, 15-Vilimoni Koroi
Reserves: 16-Ricky Jackson, 17-Jonah Aoina, 18-Yoshihisa Sasagi, 19-Josh Hill, 20-Nasi Manu, 21-James Ascott, 22-Josh Timu, 23-Mitchell Scott
Good to see Perofeta back after such a long absence.
Looking forward to watching Tupou Vaa'i play as well. He's in great nick.
Taranaki:
1-Jared Proffit, 2-Bradley Slater, 3-Reuben O'Neill, 4-Josh Lord, 5-Tupou Vaa'i, 6-Mitchell Crosswell, 7-Lachlan Boshier, 8-Kaylum Boshier, 9-Lisati Milo-Harris, 10-Jayson Potroz, 11-Lewis Ormand, 12-Tei Walden, 13-Sean Wainui, 14-Jacob Raumaitayuki-Kneepkens, 15-Stephen Perofeta
Reserves: 16-Ricky Riccitelli, 17-Chris Gawler, 18-Donald Brighouse, 19-Findlamor Hoeata, 20-Tom Florence, 21-Kylem O'Donnell, 22-Daniel Waite, 23-Brayton Northcott-Hill
Otago:
1-George Bower, 2-:Liam Coltman, 3-Josh Hohneck, 4-Jack Regan, 5-Will Tucker, 6-Charles Eaton, 7-Slade McDowall, 8-Dylan Nel, 9-Kayne Hammngton, 10-Josh Ioane, 11-Jona Nareki, 12-Aleki Morris-Lome, 13-Michael Collins, 14-Freedom Vahaakolo, 15-Vilimoni Koroi
Reserves: 16-Ricky Jackson, 17-Jonah Aoina, 18-Yoshihisa Sasagi, 19-Josh Hill, 20-Nasi Manu, 21-James Ascott, 22-Josh Timu, 23-Mitchell Scott
Good to see Perofeta back after such a long absence.
Looking forward to watching Tupou Vaa'i play as well. He's in great nick.
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I use an app called Tribe to track sports online. It’s bloody good... you just subscribe to the comp you want to follow and it adds tabs to the home screen linking straight to live update feeds.
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22-5 Otago lead Taranaki. Man I hope Taranaki lose this. Weather looks really shit.
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WTF? x 2
Firstly, the score and secondly, Daylight Saving caught me napping...kinda glad I missed the 1st half, by the looks of things...
Firstly, the score and secondly, Daylight Saving caught me napping...kinda glad I missed the 1st half, by the looks of things...
No Pasaran...
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Well, that was disappointing...
No Pasaran...
The effort needed last week seems to have had an impact. Your lads were sort of sluggish for the first half.
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Yes, you hardly heard his name throughout the game. Such a change from a week ago.Carter's Choice wrote: ↑Sun Sep 27, 2020 3:33 amOtago showed how to handle Lachlan Boshier, It's not rocket science, get lots of numbers to the breakdown.
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To be fair, he was probably still half drunk after last weekend's heroics.Kiwias wrote: ↑Sun Sep 27, 2020 3:54 amYes, you hardly heard his name throughout the game. Such a change from a week ago.Carter's Choice wrote: ↑Sun Sep 27, 2020 3:33 amOtago showed how to handle Lachlan Boshier, It's not rocket science, get lots of numbers to the breakdown.
2013. They took it off Otago to hold the shield for the first time in 44 years and then lost it to Counties six days later.
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BAY OF PLENTY v AUCKLAND
7pm Friday, October 2
Rotorua International Stadium
Bay of Plenty: 1-Tevita Mafileo, 2-Nathan Vella, 3-Jeff Thwaites, 4-Kane Le'aupepe, 5-Aaron Carroll (c), 6-Zane Kapeli, 7-Mitch Karpik, 8-Joe Tupe, 9-Te Toiroa Tahuriorangi, 10-Otere Black-11-Chase Tiatia, 12-Scott Curry, 13-Regan Ware, 14-Emoni Narawa, 15-Kalen Trask
Reserves: 16-Nic Souchon, 17-Jordan Lay, 18-Ross Geldenhuys, 19-Keepa Mewett, 20-Joe Johnson, 21-Leroy Carter, 22-Mathew Skipwith-Garland, 23-Joe Webber
Auckland: 1-Jarred Adams, 2-Leni Apisai, 3-Angus Ta'aavao, 4-Scott Scrafton, 5-Jack Whetton, 6-Adrian Choat, 7-Blake Gibson, 8-Waimana Reidlinger-Kapa, 9-Taufa Funaki, 10-Simon Hickey, 11-Salesi Rayasi, 12-TJ Faiane, 13-Tumua Manu, 14-AJ Lam, 15-Jordan Trainor
Reserves: 16-Mike Sosene-Feagai, 17-Marcel Renata, 18-James Lay, 19-Hamish Dalzell, 20-Sione Tuipulotu, 21-Jonathan Ruru, 22-Harry Plummer, 23-Zarn Sullivan
7pm Friday, October 2
Rotorua International Stadium
Bay of Plenty: 1-Tevita Mafileo, 2-Nathan Vella, 3-Jeff Thwaites, 4-Kane Le'aupepe, 5-Aaron Carroll (c), 6-Zane Kapeli, 7-Mitch Karpik, 8-Joe Tupe, 9-Te Toiroa Tahuriorangi, 10-Otere Black-11-Chase Tiatia, 12-Scott Curry, 13-Regan Ware, 14-Emoni Narawa, 15-Kalen Trask
Reserves: 16-Nic Souchon, 17-Jordan Lay, 18-Ross Geldenhuys, 19-Keepa Mewett, 20-Joe Johnson, 21-Leroy Carter, 22-Mathew Skipwith-Garland, 23-Joe Webber
Auckland: 1-Jarred Adams, 2-Leni Apisai, 3-Angus Ta'aavao, 4-Scott Scrafton, 5-Jack Whetton, 6-Adrian Choat, 7-Blake Gibson, 8-Waimana Reidlinger-Kapa, 9-Taufa Funaki, 10-Simon Hickey, 11-Salesi Rayasi, 12-TJ Faiane, 13-Tumua Manu, 14-AJ Lam, 15-Jordan Trainor
Reserves: 16-Mike Sosene-Feagai, 17-Marcel Renata, 18-James Lay, 19-Hamish Dalzell, 20-Sione Tuipulotu, 21-Jonathan Ruru, 22-Harry Plummer, 23-Zarn Sullivan
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Teams for tomorrow
Canterbury: Josh McKay, Chay Fihaki, Ngane Punivai, Rameka Poihipi, Manasa Mataele, Fergus Burke, Mitchell Drummond, Tom Sanders, Tom Christie, Reed Prinsep (captain), Mitchell Dunshea, Luke Romano, Oli Jager, Shilo Klein, Finlay Brewis. Reserves: Scott Mellow, Fletcher Newell, Tamaiti Williams, Sam Darry, Billy Harmon, Ere Enari, Brett Cameron, Isaiah Punivai.
Wellington: Billy Proctor, Wes Goosen, Peter Umaga-Jensen, Vince Aso, Julian Savea, Jackson Garden-Bachop, Kemara Hauiti-Parapara, Teariki Ben-Nicholas, Du’Plessis Kirifi (captain), Vaea Fifita, Naitoa Ah Kuoi, James Blackwell, Alex Fidow, James O’Reilly, Xavier Numia. Reserves: Tyrone Thompson, Ben Aumua-Peseta, Josiah Tavita-Metcalfe, Caleb Delany, Mateaki Kafatolu, Connor Collins, Trent Renata, Pepesana Patafilo.
Big news is Fergus Burke starting. He couldn't possibly be worse than Cameron so I'm all for it.
Canterbury: Josh McKay, Chay Fihaki, Ngane Punivai, Rameka Poihipi, Manasa Mataele, Fergus Burke, Mitchell Drummond, Tom Sanders, Tom Christie, Reed Prinsep (captain), Mitchell Dunshea, Luke Romano, Oli Jager, Shilo Klein, Finlay Brewis. Reserves: Scott Mellow, Fletcher Newell, Tamaiti Williams, Sam Darry, Billy Harmon, Ere Enari, Brett Cameron, Isaiah Punivai.
Wellington: Billy Proctor, Wes Goosen, Peter Umaga-Jensen, Vince Aso, Julian Savea, Jackson Garden-Bachop, Kemara Hauiti-Parapara, Teariki Ben-Nicholas, Du’Plessis Kirifi (captain), Vaea Fifita, Naitoa Ah Kuoi, James Blackwell, Alex Fidow, James O’Reilly, Xavier Numia. Reserves: Tyrone Thompson, Ben Aumua-Peseta, Josiah Tavita-Metcalfe, Caleb Delany, Mateaki Kafatolu, Connor Collins, Trent Renata, Pepesana Patafilo.
Big news is Fergus Burke starting. He couldn't possibly be worse than Cameron so I'm all for it.
Yeah, the bigger Aucklanders will grind them down I feel. (Just as Riasi scores)
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Tasman may be the final frontier but it's made in a Crusaders basement...mrbrownstone wrote: ↑Fri Oct 02, 2020 6:06 am Teams for tomorrow
Canterbury: Josh McKay, Chay Fihaki, Ngane Punivai, Rameka Poihipi, Manasa Mataele, Fergus Burke, Mitchell Drummond, Tom Sanders, Tom Christie, Reed Prinsep (captain), Mitchell Dunshea, Luke Romano, Oli Jager, Shilo Klein, Finlay Brewis. Reserves: Scott Mellow, Fletcher Newell, Tamaiti Williams, Sam Darry, Billy Harmon, Ere Enari, Brett Cameron, Isaiah Punivai.
Wellington: Billy Proctor, Wes Goosen, Peter Umaga-Jensen, Vince Aso, Julian Savea, Jackson Garden-Bachop, Kemara Hauiti-Parapara, Teariki Ben-Nicholas, Du’Plessis Kirifi (captain), Vaea Fifita, Naitoa Ah Kuoi, James Blackwell, Alex Fidow, James O’Reilly, Xavier Numia. Reserves: Tyrone Thompson, Ben Aumua-Peseta, Josiah Tavita-Metcalfe, Caleb Delany, Mateaki Kafatolu, Connor Collins, Trent Renata, Pepesana Patafilo.
Big news is Fergus Burke starting. He couldn't possibly be worse than Cameron so I'm all for it.
In creating Dr Victor Frankenstein's Tasman, have the Crusaders spread Canterbury too thin? I suspect so.
That backline is Eh? for eh-verage, and I don't think the pack is enough to make up for it anymore.
Wellington will be razz a matazz in the backline and may finally win enough pill to show it off.
The Lions by 10.
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BTW...as night follows day, the thick Canterbury coaches will take Mitchell Drummond off 20 minutes too early and the replacement halfback will be shithouse.