At the moment he’d have to be as good as or better than Schoeman, Bhatti, Sutherland, Hepburn and McBeth. Venter qualifies in Feb ‘26 when he’ll be a bit younger than Schoeman is now. All of these guys will be around for the next world cup
Yeah, there is significantly better depth at loosehead than tighthead. The likes of Hislop, McCallum and Murphy Walker are all kicking around too. I'm not suggesting they are better than Carre but they are already in the system. A few of the 20s looked pretty promising too, notably Smyth and Deans.
Isn’t Murphy Walker a tighthead?
He can play both sides (as can MM), but I think we have greater need at tighthead - "we" being Scotland but Glasgow too, probably
Haha, a success for homer tv directors in the u20 match. As far as I can tell avoided showing the angle the TMO was requesting and then ‘wasn’t able’ to show it in slow mo after a long delay so despite the TMO saying it definitely wasn’t a try the ref gives it anyway. I despair.
KingBlairhorn wrote: ↑Fri Mar 08, 2024 8:35 pm
Haha, a success for homer tv directors in the u20 match. As far as I can tell avoided showing the angle the TMO was requesting and then ‘wasn’t able’ to show it in slow mo after a long delay so despite the TMO saying it definitely wasn’t a try the ref gives it anyway. I despair.
Fuck knows how that 3rd try was just given too. At least without any replay.
KingBlairhorn wrote: ↑Fri Mar 08, 2024 8:35 pm
Haha, a success for homer tv directors in the u20 match. As far as I can tell avoided showing the angle the TMO was requesting and then ‘wasn’t able’ to show it in slow mo after a long delay so despite the TMO saying it definitely wasn’t a try the ref gives it anyway. I despair.
Absolute joke shop stuff and really knocked the stuffing out of them. It was clear as day.
KingBlairhorn wrote: ↑Fri Mar 08, 2024 8:35 pm
Haha, a success for homer tv directors in the u20 match. As far as I can tell avoided showing the angle the TMO was requesting and then ‘wasn’t able’ to show it in slow mo after a long delay so despite the TMO saying it definitely wasn’t a try the ref gives it anyway. I despair.
Absolute joke shop stuff and really knocked the stuffing out of them. It was clear as day.
The following try was just as bad with Italians pinning Scottish players in the ruck, as per the first one, from which they got the penalty which led to the try to take them ahead. We never recovered from that.
btw, I started Snowfall after reading your recommendation on the tv thread, I'm on episode 6 of series 1, it's really good.
KingBlairhorn wrote: ↑Fri Mar 08, 2024 8:35 pm
Haha, a success for homer tv directors in the u20 match. As far as I can tell avoided showing the angle the TMO was requesting and then ‘wasn’t able’ to show it in slow mo after a long delay so despite the TMO saying it definitely wasn’t a try the ref gives it anyway. I despair.
Absolute joke shop stuff and really knocked the stuffing out of them. It was clear as day.
The following try was just as bad with Italians pinning Scottish players in the ruck, as per the first one, from which they got the penalty which led to the try to take them ahead. We never recovered from that.
btw, I started Snowfall after reading your recommendation on the tv thread, I'm on episode 6 of series 1, it's really good.
I had bizarrely never heard of it but then caught it on BBC player. I think it suffered from being in direct competition to a few great shows. By the end you will be astonished to hear that the actor playing the lead character didn't get a shedload of awards.
Really pleased for George Horne getting a start today. I used to advocate for him massively but have been happy with Ben White lately. Great for Hornito to get his chance.
Sad for Stafford that the 6-2 means he misses out. He is likely to be a future star centre, so I hope he gets a chance to show that this summer.
charltom wrote: ↑Sat Mar 09, 2024 12:00 pm
Really pleased for George Horne getting a start today. I used to advocate for him massively but have been happy with Ben White lately. Great for Hornito to get his chance.
Sad for Stafford that the 6-2 means he misses out. He is likely to be a future star centre, so I hope he gets a chance to show that this summer.
charltom wrote: ↑Sat Mar 09, 2024 12:00 pm
Really pleased for George Horne getting a start today. I used to advocate for him massively but have been happy with Ben White lately. Great for Hornito to get his chance.
Sad for Stafford that the 6-2 means he misses out. He is likely to be a future star centre, so I hope he gets a chance to show that this summer.
He hasn't done himself any favours in that half.
He's needing subbed.
Passing has been rank and two tries from kicks where it could be reasonably expected the 9 to be covering.
Begbie wrote: ↑Sat Mar 09, 2024 4:21 pm
We're getting pumped next week.
Indeed.
That was always inevitable. At least now we can go into the game without worrying about what’s at stake. Our only hope now is that Ireland win the tournament this afternoon and spend the next week on the sauce.
Slick wrote: ↑Sat Mar 09, 2024 5:46 pm
I’m done for a while. Got to find something else to do with my time, energy and money
Aye, it's kind of hard to give a fuck at the moment. Hearing Toony blaming ill discipline again is beyond tedious. It's not a new problem Gregor. We're a 20-30 minute team at best.
Big D wrote: ↑Sat Mar 09, 2024 4:42 pm
We can still finish last in this 6N. We won't but it shouldn't be on the table.
Not quite. Worst case we go into the last weekend with Wales on 8 and Italy on 7. They can’t both overtake us with result from their match against each other.
I was extremely distracted by my children this afternoon, so my focus wasn't on the match (on a small phone screen in the car) as it ought to have been.
Can anyone tell me: was it as it looked to me, a lot of unpenalised offside in defence from Italy? Was it really a case of particularly poor discipline from Scotland as opposed to Italy?
Please don't lose to England, Ireland, because I know what you'll do to Scotland if you do... oh dear.
Big D wrote: ↑Sat Mar 09, 2024 6:34 pm
Other teams getting stronger and developing new players. We are in real danger of being miles behind by this time in 2026.
We're a stick on for the spoon next year. And I don't mean that as a reaction to today, more about what you've highlighted here.
Get the job done today and we all get to enjoy the buildup to a match where a win would most likely be enough for a Six Nations' title and at least shoot our shot against Ireland.
Shafted ourselves out of one of the biggest weeks in Scottish rugby for years.
In Australia. Just woke up to this. Fuck sake. You could
see it coming, but fuck sake. We could literallly have been playing for the title next week.
It is in truth not for glory, nor riches, nor honours that we are fighting, but for freedom - for that alone, which no honest man gives up but with life itself.
And another thing seeing as I'm still fizzing. Co-captains just isn't a thing and doesn't allow a leader to emerge and I think it's no more than indecision from Townsend.
He isn't being seem in the best of lights but we miss Hoggs leadership.
The team is the epitome of GT as a player - very occasionally brilliant, consistently inconsistent and often feckless. After 7 years of opportunity it is resoundingly clear that Townsend doesn't have the capabilities to be an international coach. Time for him to go.
I think there are a few knee jerk reactions in here that I understand but don’t agree with.
Firstly, if we all stopped supporting Scottish sports teams when they lose we would run out of sports to watch pretty quickly.
Secondly, Italy aren’t mugs. We are sounding pretty arrogant right now as we pontificate on Scotland's failings while we should really reflect on the fabulous journey Italian rugby has been on the last few years. They’ve really turned things around and deserved their victory. Scotland didn’t shit the bed, Italy won through excellent rugby.
Third, the tournament is exactly what we all said it is before it began. 5 teams of similar ability and one who is streets ahead of the rest. Everyone has beaten someone, except wales who are obviously utterly gash (sorry wales).
Finally, for all that, it is probably time for a coaching change soon. Townsend is our (statistically) best ever coach, but he hasn’t won anything. Any coach who fails to win anything for 7 years has probably reached the end of the road if for nothing else that to freshen things up and bring in some new ideas. It’s been a hell of a ride, but he should go work in club rugby for a while and maybe come back towards the end of his coaching career, hopefully as a better coach.
