Kicking off in Israel

[Calculon]

He's not wrong....

[Ymx]

I do not understand why they have held back on Rafah for so long having gained control of the rest of the strip.

Obviously Hamas are trying to keep their human shields in place there.

[MungoMan]

I do not understand why they have held back on Rafah for so long having gained control of the rest of the strip.

Obviously Hamas are trying to keep their human shields in place there.

Fiendishly clever of Hamas to goad the IDF into doubling or tripling the number of 'human shields' available in Rafah. Clearly they could teach D Trump a thing or three about 4D chess.

[Calculon]

No 4D chess required, just a mentality where anybody who dies is a "martyr" and thereby serving the cause. Same mentality which makes the whole concept of war crimes totally alien. Any action against Jews, no matter how horrific to western sensibilities, is justified, so cannot be considered a crime.

Hamas (via spokespeople)
2006: “The citizens will continue defending their pride and houses and will continue to
serve as human shields until the enemy will withdraw.”10
2014: “The fact that people are willing to sacrifice themselves against Israeli warplanes in
order to protect their homes, I believe this strategy is proving itself. And we, Hamas, call
on our people to adopt this practice.”11
2014: “Hamas despise those defeatist Palestinians that criticize the high number of civilian
casualties. The resistance praises our people…we lead our people to death…I mean, to war.”12
Ismail Haniyeh, former Prime Minister of the Palestinian National Authority (2006-
2014), Head of Hamas Political Bureau in Gaza (since 2017)
2006: Citizens were encouraged to gather at Muhammad Baroud’s house (a prominent PRC
combatant) in Jabaliya refugee camp, after the IDF issued a warning. Following the event,
Haniyeh stated: “I believe that what has happened tonight will be a role model… an example
to our Palestinian people and a clear message, that the [Zionist] aggression will not break our
will.”13
2008: “Israel threatens to bombard houses [in which freedom fighters live], but hundreds
and thousands of Palestinians climb to those houses rooftops in the middle of the night to
defend those houses.”14
Fathi Hamad, Hamas MP
2008: “For the Palestinian people, death has become an industry […]. This is why they have
formed human shields of the women, the children, the elderly and the mujahideen.”
15

Khaled Mashal, Head of the Hamas Political Bureau (1996-2017)
“If you will foolishly decide to enter Gaza, we will fight you. You will face not only thousands
of our combatants, but also a million and a half of our population, driven by the desire to
become martyrs.”16
Ministry of Interior in the Gaza Strip (via spokespeople)
2009: “Men in uniform have been declared targets for air strikes. As a result, while outside
in the terrain, uniforms are to be discarded and civilian clothes are to be worn.”17
2014: "“We call those who evacuated their houses to return immediately and stay there…
Israel’s warnings are nothing but psychological warfare… by leaving your houses you assist
the enemy to fulfil its plans, that is, annihilating your belongings and houses.”18

[Tilly Orifice]

No 4D chess required, just a mentality where anybody who dies is a "martyr" and thereby serving the cause. Same mentality which makes the whole concept of war crimes totally alien. Any action against Jews, no matter how horrific to western sensibilities, is justified, so cannot be considered a crime.

Hamas (via spokespeople)
2006: “The citizens will continue defending their pride and houses and will continue to
serve as human shields until the enemy will withdraw.”10
2014: “The fact that people are willing to sacrifice themselves against Israeli warplanes in
order to protect their homes, I believe this strategy is proving itself. And we, Hamas, call
on our people to adopt this practice.”11
2014: “Hamas despise those defeatist Palestinians that criticize the high number of civilian
casualties. The resistance praises our people…we lead our people to death…I mean, to war.”12
Ismail Haniyeh, former Prime Minister of the Palestinian National Authority (2006-
2014), Head of Hamas Political Bureau in Gaza (since 2017)
2006: Citizens were encouraged to gather at Muhammad Baroud’s house (a prominent PRC
combatant) in Jabaliya refugee camp, after the IDF issued a warning. Following the event,
Haniyeh stated: “I believe that what has happened tonight will be a role model… an example
to our Palestinian people and a clear message, that the [Zionist] aggression will not break our
will.”13
2008: “Israel threatens to bombard houses [in which freedom fighters live], but hundreds
and thousands of Palestinians climb to those houses rooftops in the middle of the night to
defend those houses.”14
Fathi Hamad, Hamas MP
2008: “For the Palestinian people, death has become an industry […]. This is why they have
formed human shields of the women, the children, the elderly and the mujahideen.”
15

Khaled Mashal, Head of the Hamas Political Bureau (1996-2017)
“If you will foolishly decide to enter Gaza, we will fight you. You will face not only thousands
of our combatants, but also a million and a half of our population, driven by the desire to
become martyrs.”16
Ministry of Interior in the Gaza Strip (via spokespeople)
2009: “Men in uniform have been declared targets for air strikes. As a result, while outside
in the terrain, uniforms are to be discarded and civilian clothes are to be worn.”17
2014: "“We call those who evacuated their houses to return immediately and stay there…
Israel’s warnings are nothing but psychological warfare… by leaving your houses you assist
the enemy to fulfil its plans, that is, annihilating your belongings and houses.”18

You're really invested in refusing to draw any distinction whatsoever between Israelis and Jews, aren't you?

[MungoMan]

No 4D chess required, just a mentality where anybody who dies is a "martyr" and thereby serving the cause. Same mentality which makes the whole concept of war crimes totally alien. Any action against Jews, no matter how horrific to western sensibilities, is justified, so cannot be considered a crime.

Hamas (via spokespeople)
2006: “The citizens will continue defending their pride and houses and will continue to
serve as human shields until the enemy will withdraw.”10
2014: “The fact that people are willing to sacrifice themselves against Israeli warplanes in
order to protect their homes, I believe this strategy is proving itself. And we, Hamas, call
on our people to adopt this practice.”11
2014: “Hamas despise those defeatist Palestinians that criticize the high number of civilian
casualties. The resistance praises our people…we lead our people to death…I mean, to war.”12
Ismail Haniyeh, former Prime Minister of the Palestinian National Authority (2006-
2014), Head of Hamas Political Bureau in Gaza (since 2017)
2006: Citizens were encouraged to gather at Muhammad Baroud’s house (a prominent PRC
combatant) in Jabaliya refugee camp, after the IDF issued a warning. Following the event,
Haniyeh stated: “I believe that what has happened tonight will be a role model… an example
to our Palestinian people and a clear message, that the [Zionist] aggression will not break our
will.”13
2008: “Israel threatens to bombard houses [in which freedom fighters live], but hundreds
and thousands of Palestinians climb to those houses rooftops in the middle of the night to
defend those houses.”14
Fathi Hamad, Hamas MP
2008: “For the Palestinian people, death has become an industry […]. This is why they have
formed human shields of the women, the children, the elderly and the mujahideen.”
15

Khaled Mashal, Head of the Hamas Political Bureau (1996-2017)
“If you will foolishly decide to enter Gaza, we will fight you. You will face not only thousands
of our combatants, but also a million and a half of our population, driven by the desire to
become martyrs.”16
Ministry of Interior in the Gaza Strip (via spokespeople)
2009: “Men in uniform have been declared targets for air strikes. As a result, while outside
in the terrain, uniforms are to be discarded and civilian clothes are to be worn.”17
2014: "“We call those who evacuated their houses to return immediately and stay there…
Israel’s warnings are nothing but psychological warfare… by leaving your houses you assist
the enemy to fulfil its plans, that is, annihilating your belongings and houses.”18

You're really invested in refusing to draw any distinction whatsoever between Israelis and Jews, aren't you?

Quite possible.

In any case, the point I was making is that Rafah is choc-full of people because the IDF drove them there.

[Tilly Orifice]

Indeed

[Jim Lahey]

Both sides are a pack of cunts.

There's my two cents.

[Ymx]

[MungoMan]

Yawn

[Ymx]

Christ, just when you thought we had reached the bottom of the pro Hamas mong barrel.

[Calculon]

No 4D chess required, just a mentality where anybody who dies is a "martyr" and thereby serving the cause. Same mentality which makes the whole concept of war crimes totally alien. Any action against Jews, no matter how horrific to western sensibilities, is justified, so cannot be considered a crime.

Hamas (via spokespeople)
2006: “The citizens will continue defending their pride and houses and will continue to
serve as human shields until the enemy will withdraw.”10
2014: “The fact that people are willing to sacrifice themselves against Israeli warplanes in
order to protect their homes, I believe this strategy is proving itself. And we, Hamas, call
on our people to adopt this practice.”11
2014: “Hamas despise those defeatist Palestinians that criticize the high number of civilian
casualties. The resistance praises our people…we lead our people to death…I mean, to war.”12
Ismail Haniyeh, former Prime Minister of the Palestinian National Authority (2006-
2014), Head of Hamas Political Bureau in Gaza (since 2017)
2006: Citizens were encouraged to gather at Muhammad Baroud’s house (a prominent PRC
combatant) in Jabaliya refugee camp, after the IDF issued a warning. Following the event,
Haniyeh stated: “I believe that what has happened tonight will be a role model… an example
to our Palestinian people and a clear message, that the [Zionist] aggression will not break our
will.”13
2008: “Israel threatens to bombard houses [in which freedom fighters live], but hundreds
and thousands of Palestinians climb to those houses rooftops in the middle of the night to
defend those houses.”14
Fathi Hamad, Hamas MP
2008: “For the Palestinian people, death has become an industry […]. This is why they have
formed human shields of the women, the children, the elderly and the mujahideen.”
15

Khaled Mashal, Head of the Hamas Political Bureau (1996-2017)
“If you will foolishly decide to enter Gaza, we will fight you. You will face not only thousands
of our combatants, but also a million and a half of our population, driven by the desire to
become martyrs.”16
Ministry of Interior in the Gaza Strip (via spokespeople)
2009: “Men in uniform have been declared targets for air strikes. As a result, while outside
in the terrain, uniforms are to be discarded and civilian clothes are to be worn.”17
2014: "“We call those who evacuated their houses to return immediately and stay there…
Israel’s warnings are nothing but psychological warfare… by leaving your houses you assist
the enemy to fulfil its plans, that is, annihilating your belongings and houses.”18

You're really invested in refusing to draw any distinction whatsoever between Israelis and Jews, aren't you?

no, that would be Hamas, who call for the ethnic cleansing of Jews in their charter

The hour of judgment shall not come until the Muslims fight the Jews and kill them, so that the Jews hide behind trees and stones, and each tree and stone will say: 'Oh Muslim, oh servant of Allah, there is a Jew behind me, come and kill him,' except for the Gharqad tree, for it is the tree of the Jews. (Hamas Charter, Article 7).

[Tilly Orifice]

No 4D chess required, just a mentality where anybody who dies is a "martyr" and thereby serving the cause. Same mentality which makes the whole concept of war crimes totally alien. Any action against Jews, no matter how horrific to western sensibilities, is justified, so cannot be considered a crime.

Hamas (via spokespeople)
2006: “The citizens will continue defending their pride and houses and will continue to
serve as human shields until the enemy will withdraw.”10
2014: “The fact that people are willing to sacrifice themselves against Israeli warplanes in
order to protect their homes, I believe this strategy is proving itself. And we, Hamas, call
on our people to adopt this practice.”11
2014: “Hamas despise those defeatist Palestinians that criticize the high number of civilian
casualties. The resistance praises our people…we lead our people to death…I mean, to war.”12
Ismail Haniyeh, former Prime Minister of the Palestinian National Authority (2006-
2014), Head of Hamas Political Bureau in Gaza (since 2017)
2006: Citizens were encouraged to gather at Muhammad Baroud’s house (a prominent PRC
combatant) in Jabaliya refugee camp, after the IDF issued a warning. Following the event,
Haniyeh stated: “I believe that what has happened tonight will be a role model… an example
to our Palestinian people and a clear message, that the [Zionist] aggression will not break our
will.”13
2008: “Israel threatens to bombard houses [in which freedom fighters live], but hundreds
and thousands of Palestinians climb to those houses rooftops in the middle of the night to
defend those houses.”14
Fathi Hamad, Hamas MP
2008: “For the Palestinian people, death has become an industry […]. This is why they have
formed human shields of the women, the children, the elderly and the mujahideen.”
15

Khaled Mashal, Head of the Hamas Political Bureau (1996-2017)
“If you will foolishly decide to enter Gaza, we will fight you. You will face not only thousands
of our combatants, but also a million and a half of our population, driven by the desire to
become martyrs.”16
Ministry of Interior in the Gaza Strip (via spokespeople)
2009: “Men in uniform have been declared targets for air strikes. As a result, while outside
in the terrain, uniforms are to be discarded and civilian clothes are to be worn.”17
2014: "“We call those who evacuated their houses to return immediately and stay there…
Israel’s warnings are nothing but psychological warfare… by leaving your houses you assist
the enemy to fulfil its plans, that is, annihilating your belongings and houses.”18

You're really invested in refusing to draw any distinction whatsoever between Israelis and Jews, aren't you?

no, that would be Hamas, who call for the ethnic cleansing of Jews in their charter

The hour of judgment shall not come until the Muslims fight the Jews and kill them, so that the Jews hide behind trees and stones, and each tree and stone will say: 'Oh Muslim, oh servant of Allah, there is a Jew behind me, come and kill him,' except for the Gharqad tree, for it is the tree of the Jews. (Hamas Charter, Article 7).

And yet the wall of text you quoted in support of this:

Any action against Jews, no matter how horrific to western sensibilities...

Contained no mention of Jews at all.

[Calculon]

You're really invested in refusing to draw any distinction whatsoever between Israelis and Jews, aren't you?

no, that would be Hamas, who call for the ethnic cleansing of Jews in their charter

The hour of judgment shall not come until the Muslims fight the Jews and kill them, so that the Jews hide behind trees and stones, and each tree and stone will say: 'Oh Muslim, oh servant of Allah, there is a Jew behind me, come and kill him,' except for the Gharqad tree, for it is the tree of the Jews. (Hamas Charter, Article 7).

And yet the wall of text you quoted in support of this:

Any action against Jews, no matter how horrific to western sensibilities...

Contained no mention of Jews at all.

Fucking hell, defending Hamas by claiming they are not anti Semitic, well done you

[Calculon]

Christ, just when you thought we had reached the bottom of the pro Hamas mong barrel.

It’s a pathological hatred of anything to do with Israel that makes them think that there is a moral equivalence between the actions of Hamas and Israel, or that Israel’s is even worse

[C69]

Christ, just when you thought we had reached the bottom of the pro Hamas mong barrel.

Is that a terrorist who is revealing information during an interrogation by the IDF?
Hmm seems legit

[Ymx]

Christ, just when you thought we had reached the bottom of the pro Hamas mong barrel.

Is that a terrorist who is revealing information during an interrogation by the IDF?
Hmm seems legit

Where is your mind with this latest Al-Shifa raid?

Are you not believing there was a Hamas re grouping there?

[C69]

Christ, just when you thought we had reached the bottom of the pro Hamas mong barrel.

Is that a terrorist who is revealing information during an interrogation by the IDF?
Hmm seems legit

Where is your mind with this latest Al-Shifa raid?

Are you not believing there was a Hamas re grouping there?

I have no idea, however I treat propaganda from both sides with a healthy amount today scepticism.
I suspect you would not take a n IDF hostage's words at face value if they were paraded across the media and had an ISIS flag behind them.

[Ymx]

Is that a terrorist who is revealing information during an interrogation by the IDF?
Hmm seems legit

Where is your mind with this latest Al-Shifa raid?

Are you not believing there was a Hamas re grouping there?

I have no idea, however I treat propaganda from both sides with a healthy amount today scepticism.
I suspect you would not take a n IDF hostage's words at face value if they were paraded across the media and had an ISIS flag behind them.

You are not just equating Hamas with the IDF, but are equating ISIS with the IDF??

Jesus .

[Tichtheid]

[Kiwias]

Ticht

Damn that is depressing

[Tilly Orifice]

no, that would be Hamas, who call for the ethnic cleansing of Jews in their charter

And yet the wall of text you quoted in support of this:

Any action against Jews, no matter how horrific to western sensibilities...

Contained no mention of Jews at all.

Fucking hell, defending Hamas by claiming they are not anti Semitic, well done you

no

[Flockwitt]

Ticht

Damn that is depressing

Check out one of the associated videos that pops up when that finished.

[/media]

This regards preparations to land grab in Gaza. Depressing isn't in it. "Resettling".

[Kiwias]

Ticht

Damn that is depressing

Check out one of the associated videos that pops up when that finished.

[/media]

This regards preparations to land grab in Gaza. Depressing isn't in it. "Resettling".

I have already seen some interviews with Israelis talking about how lovely it would be to live in Gaza overlooking the Mediterranean.

[C69]

Where is your mind with this latest Al-Shifa raid?

Are you not believing there was a Hamas re grouping there?

I have no idea, however I treat propaganda from both sides with a healthy amount today scepticism.
I suspect you would not take a n IDF hostage's words at face value if they were paraded across the media and had an ISIS flag behind them.

You are not just equating Hamas with the IDF, but are equating ISIS with the IDF??

Jesus .

No not at all, comparing propaganda lapped up by morons on both sides who refuse to have any critical thinking.
Giving hostages a script and putting in front of a flag is not usually the more credible way of getting a truthful message

[petej]

Yawn

That spokes person/gimp/mong produces dull whataboutery.

[Tilly Orifice]

[Uncle fester]

Pretty sure the last response is fake.

[Tilly Orifice]

Wouldn't be surprised either way.

[Ymx]

And it’s stepped up yet another notch. Hamas now the good guys to the Pali Protestors

[C69]

And it’s stepped up yet another notch. Hamas now the good guys to the Pali Protestors

Not an equivalence any sane individual would make tbh.

[Guy Smiley]

Not an equivalence any sane individual would make tbh.

Low grade trolling on human misery of this scale isn't exactly a sign of reasonable mental health.

[Ymx]

That’s not trolling, that’s what’s on the streets, brewing under the surface.

[Ymx]

Looks like Uncle F is out and about in London.



Would be trolling.

[C69]

Looks like Uncle F is out and about in London.



Would be trolling.

He looks a bit mad in that video.
But FFS Turning Point UK.
A far right organisation bankrolled by USA white supremacists and loons.
Their most notable contribution this far was their protests in London against Drag Queens.
You nutter.

[Ymx]

It’s a video, dingbat

[Ymx]

Looks like they’ve taken a big scalp at the hospital

[C69]

It’s a video, dingbat

Turning point UK your sort of reactionary craZy vibe ?

[Tichtheid]

It’s a video, dingbat

Turning point UK your sort of reactionary craZy vibe ?

The justifying of the deaths, displacement and famine, the continued blood thirst, the use of extremist and counter intelligence sources, the effort to tie half a dozen or so supporters of Hamas from hundreds of thousands on the streets of London with a call for a ceasefire on all sides - that should tell you the guy has set out his stall and is not worth responding to - his view point seems to be informed by the Telegraph and then he seeks out the QAnon version to post on here.

His posts are worthless

[Calculon]

This is a pretty crude fake designed to portray Jewish Israeli people in a bad light. Can't say I'm surprised you're spreading this propaganda.