So, coronavirus...

[Tichtheid]

"Johnson should learn from Sturgeon and treat the public as a partner, not a problem"

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfr ... compliance

[mat the expat]

Looking at photos of pub chuck out time last night in London.


No wonder the virus is spreading, how the f---- can you social distance with that number of pub goers.

Yep, not a good look. Only two pwoplw with masks on in that shot

Fuck me - are people back in the UK that cretinous?

We've re-opened bars here but even outside, distancing is enforced.

[I like neeps]

British Track and Trace app doesn't actually work unless you pay for your covid test.

[Raggs]

British Track and Trace app doesn't actually work unless you pay for your covid test.

Hold on? Isn't the whole point of everyone wanting the Google/Apple solution, to remove all identifiable data from the Governments hands? If you start putting in your test results, then you're identifying yourself to them surely?

[CM11]

Again, not sure it's the same app but for ours you upload the random IDs if your positive and then the system can send out alerts to any IDs that are deemed close contacts. At no stage does it link names with other names.

[I like neeps]

British Track and Trace app doesn't actually work unless you pay for your covid test.

Hold on? Isn't the whole point of everyone wanting the Google/Apple solution, to remove all identifiable data from the Governments hands? If you start putting in your test results, then you're identifying yourself to them surely?

The Google/Apple solution I thought was because only they had the tech to do it? But the govt wanted their own because they wanted to keep the data? I can't remember.

I just don't see the point in the app if it can't track and trace because the only test results it'll accept are privately gained tests which the vast majority of the public don't have access to.

[Bimbowomxn]

So what is it tracking and tracing if not positive results for the virus ?

[Deveron Boy]

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British Track and Trace app doesn't actually work unless you pay for your covid test.

Hold on? Isn't the whole point of everyone wanting the Google/Apple solution, to remove all identifiable data from the Governments hands? If you start putting in your test results, then you're identifying yourself to them surely?
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The Google/Apple solution I thought was because only they had the tech to do it? But the govt wanted their own because they wanted to keep the data? I can't remember.


I just don't see the point in the app if it can't track and trace because the only test results it'll accept are privately gained tests which the vast majority of the public don't have access to.
[/quote]

I think the private tests referred to are the Serco/various of Dom’s mates companies provided nationally under ‘NHS test and trace’ but which actually have fuck all to do with NHS and are provided by private entities under highly lucrative contracts with no performance hurdles/penalties.

[Bimbowomxn]

I think the private tests referred to are the Serco/various of Dom’s mates companies provided nationally under ‘NHS test and trace’ but which actually have fuck all to do with NHS and are provided by private entities under highly lucrative contracts with no performance hurdles/penalties.

Go on, tell us more about these non NHS tests.

[Deveron Boy]

I think the private tests referred to are the Serco/various of Dom’s mates companies provided nationally under ‘NHS test and trace’ but which actually have fuck all to do with NHS and are provided by private entities under highly lucrative contracts with no performance hurdles/penalties.

Go on, tell us more about these non NHS tests.

It’s in the tweet in the message above in very small words that a 3 year old could follow..

[Bimbowomxn]

I think the private tests referred to are the Serco/various of Dom’s mates companies provided nationally under ‘NHS test and trace’ but which actually have fuck all to do with NHS and are provided by private entities under highly lucrative contracts with no performance hurdles/penalties.

Go on, tell us more about these non NHS tests.

It’s in the tweet in the message above in very small words that a 3 year old could follow..

, then get your big brother to explain wtf you mean then.

[Ovals]

I think the private tests referred to are the Serco/various of Dom’s mates companies provided nationally under ‘NHS test and trace’ but which actually have fuck all to do with NHS and are provided by private entities under highly lucrative contracts with no performance hurdles/penalties.

Go on, tell us more about these non NHS tests.

It’s in the tweet in the message above in very small words that a 3 year old could follow..

Some people have been known to use Google to search for some things like that.

[Enzedder]

Unfortunately, this meme is wrong because their parents have bred them, and now the little shiits are going to try to kill the parents

[SaintK]

Looking at photos of pub chuck out time last night in London.


No wonder the virus is spreading, how the f---- can you social distance with that number of pub goers.

Yep, not a good look.

I hadn't realised that the curfew meant that the pub/bar had to be closed, doors locked and staff all gone by 10:00pm!!
And the snivelling shit responsible for this:

When the issue was put to the full cabinet on Tuesday, resistance flared again when business secretary Alok Sharma and environment secretary George Eustice suggested that it would be safer to taper the curfew with last orders at 10pm, rather than force everyone on to the streets at the same time.
But Mr Gove insisted that there should be a strict 10pm ‘guillotine’.

Well, well, well. One rule for us and another for them

Facilities serving alcohol on the parliamentary estate are understood to be exempt from the earlier closing time on the basis that they fall under the description of “a workplace canteen”.

[Biffer]

Looking at photos of pub chuck out time last night in London.


No wonder the virus is spreading, how the f---- can you social distance with that number of pub goers.

Yep, not a good look. Only two pwoplw with masks on in that shot

Fuck me - are people back in the UK that cretinous?

We've re-opened bars here but even outside, distancing is enforced.

Yes, yes they are. I don't know how long you've been away, but there's been this growing sense of exceptionalism in the UK, which was always an undercurrent for the country as a whole but is now coming in to play on an individual basis.

[ScarfaceClaw]

Looking at photos of pub chuck out time last night in London.


No wonder the virus is spreading, how the f---- can you social distance with that number of pub goers.

Yep, not a good look. Only two pwoplw with masks on in that shot

I can see three masks. You’ve got your one on the left next to the one in leopard print and the two in the middle.

[SaintK]

Looking at photos of pub chuck out time last night in London.


No wonder the virus is spreading, how the f---- can you social distance with that number of pub goers.

Yep, not a good look. Only two pwoplw with masks on in that shot

I can see three masks. You’ve got your one on the left next to the one in leopard print and the two in the middle.

As Bimbo mentioned up thread we don't need to wear masks outdoors. I couldn't be arsed to edit it

[ScarfaceClaw]

Yep, not a good look. Only two pwoplw with masks on in that shot

I can see three masks. You’ve got your one on the left next to the one in leopard print and the two in the middle.

As Bimbo mentioned up thread we don't need to wear masks outdoors. I couldn't be arsed to edit it

It’s important to focus on the minutiae in the message. It clearly helped to direct the discussion to the right place. Otherwise we might be in danger of discussing the actual problem.

[ASMO]

Good old Parliament, telling everyone that bars will be forced to shut at 10.00pm..EXCEPT the one in Parliament, cunts to a man.

[JM2K6]

Good old Parliament, telling everyone that bars will be forced to shut at 10.00pm..EXCEPT the one in Parliament, cunts to a man.

They've u-turned on that one.

[ASMO]

Good old Parliament, telling everyone that bars will be forced to shut at 10.00pm..EXCEPT the one in Parliament, cunts to a man.

They've u-turned on that one.

They should never have had to, the mere fact they even tried it shows the utter contempt they have for the voting public.

[eldanielfire]

Good old Parliament, telling everyone that bars will be forced to shut at 10.00pm..EXCEPT the one in Parliament, cunts to a man.

They've u-turned on that one.

They should never have had to, the mere fact they even tried it shows the utter contempt they have for the voting public.

Should that be really bloody obvious though? It was taking the fucking piss. Especially after Big Dom's castle excursions during the lockdown.

[Lobby]

Good old Parliament, telling everyone that bars will be forced to shut at 10.00pm..EXCEPT the one in Parliament, cunts to a man.

They've u-turned on that one.

They should never have had to, the mere fact they even tried it shows the utter contempt they have for the voting public.

As I understand, there was no attempt by MPs or Parliament to evade the curfew. Bars and restaurants on the Parliamentary estate are exempt from the rules because they are classed as workplace canteens, in the same way as canteens at hospitals, prisons, army bases and homeless shelters are exempt. However, when the new rules came in last Thursday, Lindsay Hoyle decided that the bars in Parliament should abide by the 10 pm curfew despite being exempt. So no alcohol has been served in Parliament after 10 pm since the curfew came in.

When an enterprising journalist reported this morning that Parliament was exempt, lots of MPs and Lords demanded that Parliament should respect the curfew (even though it already was). No-one has spoken in favour of the exemption for Parliament. This is a complete non-story.

[Insane_Homer]

They've u-turned on that one.

They should never have had to, the mere fact they even tried it shows the utter contempt they have for the voting public.

Should that be really bloody obvious though? It was taking the fucking piss. Especially after Big Dom's castle excursions during the lockdown.

Any dead cat is a a good dead cat story for this lot. It's by design and the MO.

[SaintK]

Interesting, I hadn't read about this previously

Tests for Covid-19 that show on-the-spot results in 15 to 30 minutes are about to be rolled out across the world, potentially saving many thousands of lives and slowing the pandemic in both poor and rich countries.
In a triumph for a global initiative to get vital drugs and vaccines to fight the virus, 120m rapid antigen tests from two companies will be supplied to low- and middle-income countries for $5 (£3.90) each or even less.

The tests, which look like a pregnancy test, with two blue lines displayed for positive, are read by a health worker. One test has received emergency approval from the World Health Organization (WHO) and the other is expected to get it shortly. The quick and easy but high-quality tests will allow mass screening of health workers, who are dying in disproportionate numbers in low income countries.
Wealthy countries that have signed up to the Access to Covid tools initiative (ACT accelerator), as the UK has, will also be able to order the tests. The initiative was launched in March by the WHO, the European commission, the Gates Foundation and the French government.

In return for a volume guarantee from the Gates Foundation, the companies are making 20% of their production available to low- and middle-income countries and 80% to the rest. Germany has already ordered 20m tests and France and Switzerland are following suit.

The UK government is keen to get rapid virus tests, which were central to the “moonshot” proposals leaked recently, but it is not clear if they intend to buy these tests.

[Saint]

Interesting, I hadn't read about this previously

Tests for Covid-19 that show on-the-spot results in 15 to 30 minutes are about to be rolled out across the world, potentially saving many thousands of lives and slowing the pandemic in both poor and rich countries.
In a triumph for a global initiative to get vital drugs and vaccines to fight the virus, 120m rapid antigen tests from two companies will be supplied to low- and middle-income countries for $5 (£3.90) each or even less.

The tests, which look like a pregnancy test, with two blue lines displayed for positive, are read by a health worker. One test has received emergency approval from the World Health Organization (WHO) and the other is expected to get it shortly. The quick and easy but high-quality tests will allow mass screening of health workers, who are dying in disproportionate numbers in low income countries.
Wealthy countries that have signed up to the Access to Covid tools initiative (ACT accelerator), as the UK has, will also be able to order the tests. The initiative was launched in March by the WHO, the European commission, the Gates Foundation and the French government.

In return for a volume guarantee from the Gates Foundation, the companies are making 20% of their production available to low- and middle-income countries and 80% to the rest. Germany has already ordered 20m tests and France and Switzerland are following suit.

The UK government is keen to get rapid virus tests, which were central to the “moonshot” proposals leaked recently, but it is not clear if they intend to buy these tests.

Going to need to manufacture far more than that - perhaps by a factor of 1,000

[Flockwitt]

That is good news which I hadn't heard.

[Sandstorm]

Going to need to manufacture far more than that - perhaps by a factor of 1,000

Wrong login Bimboh

[Saint]

Going to need to manufacture far more than that - perhaps by a factor of 1,000

Wrong login Bimboh

[Sandstorm]

1 million Covid19 deaths globally

WHO estimates global flu deaths in 2019 were 500-650k

[SaintK]

Our tosser of a PM doesn't even know the lockdown rules he's introduced in NE England over the past 24 hours

Andy Bell from Channel 5 just asked Boris Johnson to clarify whether different households can meet in pub gardens in the North-east and it appeared - from the ensuing waffle - that the PM doesn't know either

Erk. Boris Johnson also appears totally confused by question about whether people in the North East can meet outside in beer gardens. Talks about Rule of Six *elsewhere* and says locals should follow the guidance. “As I understand it not six outside”. What?

Andy Bell asks PM to clarify the new(ish) Covid rules. What follows is an answer which does not answer the Q and is so confusing I am going to have to rewind it in an attempt to understand.

One of the Education Ministers couldn't answer the same question earlier this morning when being interviewed
Incompetence from the top down

[Bimbowomxn]

1 million Covid19 deaths globally

WHO estimates global flu deaths in 2019 were 500-650k

One of the reasons for the higher toll from Covid of course.

[SaintK]

Our tosser of a PM doesn't even know the lockdown rules he's introduced in NE England over the past 24 hours

Andy Bell from Channel 5 just asked Boris Johnson to clarify whether different households can meet in pub gardens in the North-east and it appeared - from the ensuing waffle - that the PM doesn't know either

Erk. Boris Johnson also appears totally confused by question about whether people in the North East can meet outside in beer gardens. Talks about Rule of Six *elsewhere* and says locals should follow the guidance. “As I understand it not six outside”. What?

Andy Bell asks PM to clarify the new(ish) Covid rules. What follows is an answer which does not answer the Q and is so confusing I am going to have to rewind it in an attempt to understand.

One of the Education Ministers couldn't answer the same question earlier this morning when being interviewed
Incompetence from the top down

Well that's a first. An apology from the bumbling bufoon

Apologies, I misspoke today.
In the North East, new rules mean you cannot meet people from different households in social settings indoors, including in pubs, restaurants and your home. You should also avoid socialising with other households outside

Misspoke my arse!! Anyone listening to him could tell he hadn't got a clue by all the usual ums, errs and absolute waffle when he doesn't know what he's talking about

[Jb1981]

1 million Covid19 deaths globally

WHO estimates global flu deaths in 2019 were 500-650k

One of the reasons for the higher toll from Covid of course.

What do you mean? That’s the higher end WHO flu estimate isn’t it and up from prior year estimates.

[Ted.]

1 million Covid19 deaths globally

WHO estimates global flu deaths in 2019 were 500-650k

One of the reasons for the higher toll from Covid of course.

What do you mean? That’s the higher end WHO flu estimate isn’t it and up from prior year estimates.

And also the lower end of Covid death estimates, which is more likely to be in the region of 2 million.

Meanwhile, Bimbo's Brexit heroes have masterminded some incredible, never before seen, Covid numbers.

[Bimbowomxn]

1 million Covid19 deaths globally

WHO estimates global flu deaths in 2019 were 500-650k

One of the reasons for the higher toll from Covid of course.

What do you mean? That’s the higher end WHO flu estimate isn’t it and up from prior year estimates.

Is it a high or a low number historically?

[Enzedder]

1 million Covid19 deaths globally

WHO estimates global flu deaths in 2019 were 500-650k

One of the reasons for the higher toll from Covid of course.

What? The reason for a million covid deaths is because last year there were 500,000 flu deaths.

explain please.

[Bimbowomxn]

Meanwhile, Bimbo's Brexit heroes have masterminded some incredible, never before seen, Covid numbers.

I’ve been more than critical of the current government. The comparison on numbers from the cheap seats though makes you no better than Ali.

You’re quite obsessed. Attack the post , not the poster.

[Bimbowomxn]

1 million Covid19 deaths globally

WHO estimates global flu deaths in 2019 were 500-650k

One of the reasons for the higher toll from Covid of course.

What? The reason for a million covid deaths is because last year there were 500,000 flu deaths.

explain please.

You don’t want a good faith conversation.

[TB63]

Prefer an explanation..