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Point taken re Chris Froome, I would assume he is or was a British citizen at some stage to represent Team GB, but citizenship is clearly not granted on the basis of whether you're going to pay tax in the UK. If they don't or maybe have never paid into the UK tax system why comment on whether muslims are a drain on the UK system, what effect does that have on the Froomes?

With regards to the overall message emanating from Mrs Froome, it doesn't seem acceptable to me that anyone could say that "no Gazans are innocent", if for example I were to say that no Isarelis are innocent" how would that be perceived?
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Take the blindfolds off and see the reality of the hatred they are spreading. There are no innocent Gazans.
She seems to be strong on self-awareness.
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The IPC acute food insecurity analysis conducted in December 2023 warned of a risk that Famine may occur by the end of May 2024 if an immediate cessation of hostilities and sustained access for the provision of essential supplies and services to the population did not take place. Since then, the conditions necessary to prevent famine have not been met and the latest evidence confirms that Famine is imminent in the northern governorates and projected to occur anytime between mid-March and May 2024.

According to the most likely scenario, both North Gaza and Gaza Governorates are classified in IPC Phase 5 (Famine) with reasonable evidence, with 70% (around 210,000 people) of the population in IPC Phase 5 (Catastrophe). Continued conflict and the near-complete lack of access to the northern governorates for humanitarian organizations and commercial trucks will likely compound heightened vulnerabilities and extremely limited food availability, access and utilization, as well as access to healthcare, water, and sanitation. The famine threshold for household acute food insecurity has already been far exceeded and, given the latest data showing a steeply increasing trend in cases of acute malnutrition, it is highly likely that the famine threshold for acute malnutrition has also been exceeded. The upward trend in non-trauma mortality is also expected to accelerate, resulting in all famine thresholds likely to be passed imminently.

The southern governorates of Deir al-Balah and Khan Younis, and the Governorate of Rafah, are classified in IPC Phase 4 (Emergency). However, in a worst-case scenario, these governorates face a risk of Famine through July 2024.

The entire population in the Gaza Strip (2.23 million) is facing high levels of acute food insecurity. Between mid-March and mid-July, in the most likely scenario and under the assumption of an escalation of the conflict including a ground offensive in Rafah, half of the population of the Gaza Strip (1.11 million people) is expected to face catastrophic conditions (IPC Phase 5), the most severe level in the IPC Acute Food Insecurity scale. This is an increase of 530,000 people (92 percent) compared to the previous analysis.

https://www.ipcinfo.org/ipcinfo-website ... sue-97/en/


edit, there is more on this here https://www.csis.org/analysis/famine-gaza
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Froome's wife is mad. Aside from the sheer stupidity of the "No innocent Gazans" comment it would be so easy for some nutter to stab him and she just made him a target. Peak moron.
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Tichtheid wrote: Wed Apr 17, 2024 2:00 pm The IPC acute food insecurity analysis conducted in December 2023 warned of a risk that Famine may occur by the end of May 2024 if an immediate cessation of hostilities and sustained access for the provision of essential supplies and services to the population did not take place. Since then, the conditions necessary to prevent famine have not been met and the latest evidence confirms that Famine is imminent in the northern governorates and projected to occur anytime between mid-March and May 2024.

According to the most likely scenario, both North Gaza and Gaza Governorates are classified in IPC Phase 5 (Famine) with reasonable evidence, with 70% (around 210,000 people) of the population in IPC Phase 5 (Catastrophe). Continued conflict and the near-complete lack of access to the northern governorates for humanitarian organizations and commercial trucks will likely compound heightened vulnerabilities and extremely limited food availability, access and utilization, as well as access to healthcare, water, and sanitation. The famine threshold for household acute food insecurity has already been far exceeded and, given the latest data showing a steeply increasing trend in cases of acute malnutrition, it is highly likely that the famine threshold for acute malnutrition has also been exceeded. The upward trend in non-trauma mortality is also expected to accelerate, resulting in all famine thresholds likely to be passed imminently.

The southern governorates of Deir al-Balah and Khan Younis, and the Governorate of Rafah, are classified in IPC Phase 4 (Emergency). However, in a worst-case scenario, these governorates face a risk of Famine through July 2024.

The entire population in the Gaza Strip (2.23 million) is facing high levels of acute food insecurity. Between mid-March and mid-July, in the most likely scenario and under the assumption of an escalation of the conflict including a ground offensive in Rafah, half of the population of the Gaza Strip (1.11 million people) is expected to face catastrophic conditions (IPC Phase 5), the most severe level in the IPC Acute Food Insecurity scale. This is an increase of 530,000 people (92 percent) compared to the previous analysis.

https://www.ipcinfo.org/ipcinfo-website ... sue-97/en/


edit, there is more on this here https://www.csis.org/analysis/famine-gaza
What are the timescales for the temporary pier the Americans are building? As that seems to be the only likely way significant aid is going to get into Gaza now. It's a shame they can't mobilise some of the US Navy's roll on/roll off vessels in the interim.
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geordie_6 wrote: Wed Apr 17, 2024 4:57 pm
Tichtheid wrote: Wed Apr 17, 2024 2:00 pm The IPC acute food insecurity analysis conducted in December 2023 warned of a risk that Famine may occur by the end of May 2024 if an immediate cessation of hostilities and sustained access for the provision of essential supplies and services to the population did not take place. Since then, the conditions necessary to prevent famine have not been met and the latest evidence confirms that Famine is imminent in the northern governorates and projected to occur anytime between mid-March and May 2024.

According to the most likely scenario, both North Gaza and Gaza Governorates are classified in IPC Phase 5 (Famine) with reasonable evidence, with 70% (around 210,000 people) of the population in IPC Phase 5 (Catastrophe). Continued conflict and the near-complete lack of access to the northern governorates for humanitarian organizations and commercial trucks will likely compound heightened vulnerabilities and extremely limited food availability, access and utilization, as well as access to healthcare, water, and sanitation. The famine threshold for household acute food insecurity has already been far exceeded and, given the latest data showing a steeply increasing trend in cases of acute malnutrition, it is highly likely that the famine threshold for acute malnutrition has also been exceeded. The upward trend in non-trauma mortality is also expected to accelerate, resulting in all famine thresholds likely to be passed imminently.

The southern governorates of Deir al-Balah and Khan Younis, and the Governorate of Rafah, are classified in IPC Phase 4 (Emergency). However, in a worst-case scenario, these governorates face a risk of Famine through July 2024.

The entire population in the Gaza Strip (2.23 million) is facing high levels of acute food insecurity. Between mid-March and mid-July, in the most likely scenario and under the assumption of an escalation of the conflict including a ground offensive in Rafah, half of the population of the Gaza Strip (1.11 million people) is expected to face catastrophic conditions (IPC Phase 5), the most severe level in the IPC Acute Food Insecurity scale. This is an increase of 530,000 people (92 percent) compared to the previous analysis.

https://www.ipcinfo.org/ipcinfo-website ... sue-97/en/


edit, there is more on this here https://www.csis.org/analysis/famine-gaza
What are the timescales for the temporary pier the Americans are building? As that seems to be the only likely way significant aid is going to get into Gaza now. It's a shame they can't mobilise some of the US Navy's roll on/roll off vessels in the interim.
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Geordie6, I don't know the answer to that, sorry.

COGAT is a unit in the Israeli Ministry of Defence, they issued this as part of a statement yesterday "Today, (Apr. 17) between 10:00 and 14:00, the IDF will pause operations in the Babach neighborhood, to enable the movement of humanitarian aid."

I don't know yet how that four hour stopping of bombing and shooting went regarding getting aid into the area, but there can be no doubt that there is a man-made famine happening in the territory.
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4 hours to get 700 trucks in, unloaded and out again. Mate they must have some serious logistics capability in Gaza
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epwc wrote: Thu Apr 18, 2024 7:46 am 4 hours to get 700 trucks in, unloaded and out again. Mate they must have some serious logistics capability in Gaza
Not to mention dodging the incoming Israeli shells and rockets…

I mean, those aid convoys. They’re a known Hamas hideout.
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I looked up disingenuous.com and it redirected to the COGAT homepage.
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Ymx wrote: Thu Apr 18, 2024 7:00 am
geordie_6 wrote: Wed Apr 17, 2024 4:57 pm
Tichtheid wrote: Wed Apr 17, 2024 2:00 pm The IPC acute food insecurity analysis conducted in December 2023 warned of a risk that Famine may occur by the end of May 2024 if an immediate cessation of hostilities and sustained access for the provision of essential supplies and services to the population did not take place. Since then, the conditions necessary to prevent famine have not been met and the latest evidence confirms that Famine is imminent in the northern governorates and projected to occur anytime between mid-March and May 2024.

According to the most likely scenario, both North Gaza and Gaza Governorates are classified in IPC Phase 5 (Famine) with reasonable evidence, with 70% (around 210,000 people) of the population in IPC Phase 5 (Catastrophe). Continued conflict and the near-complete lack of access to the northern governorates for humanitarian organizations and commercial trucks will likely compound heightened vulnerabilities and extremely limited food availability, access and utilization, as well as access to healthcare, water, and sanitation. The famine threshold for household acute food insecurity has already been far exceeded and, given the latest data showing a steeply increasing trend in cases of acute malnutrition, it is highly likely that the famine threshold for acute malnutrition has also been exceeded. The upward trend in non-trauma mortality is also expected to accelerate, resulting in all famine thresholds likely to be passed imminently.

The southern governorates of Deir al-Balah and Khan Younis, and the Governorate of Rafah, are classified in IPC Phase 4 (Emergency). However, in a worst-case scenario, these governorates face a risk of Famine through July 2024.

The entire population in the Gaza Strip (2.23 million) is facing high levels of acute food insecurity. Between mid-March and mid-July, in the most likely scenario and under the assumption of an escalation of the conflict including a ground offensive in Rafah, half of the population of the Gaza Strip (1.11 million people) is expected to face catastrophic conditions (IPC Phase 5), the most severe level in the IPC Acute Food Insecurity scale. This is an increase of 530,000 people (92 percent) compared to the previous analysis.

https://www.ipcinfo.org/ipcinfo-website ... sue-97/en/


edit, there is more on this here https://www.csis.org/analysis/famine-gaza
What are the timescales for the temporary pier the Americans are building? As that seems to be the only likely way significant aid is going to get into Gaza now. It's a shame they can't mobilise some of the US Navy's roll on/roll off vessels in the interim.
At this point you are either a paid IDF shill, an idiot or both.
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C69 wrote: Thu Apr 18, 2024 11:11 am At this point you are either a paid IDF shill, an idiot or both.
This is a boy who describes SE Asian women as mail order brides.

He's not the sharpest tool in the shed.
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Guy Smiley wrote: Thu Apr 18, 2024 11:37 am This is a boy who describes SE Asian women as mail order brides.
That was frankly disgusting
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C69 wrote: Thu Apr 18, 2024 11:11 am
Ymx wrote: Thu Apr 18, 2024 7:00 am
geordie_6 wrote: Wed Apr 17, 2024 4:57 pm

What are the timescales for the temporary pier the Americans are building? As that seems to be the only likely way significant aid is going to get into Gaza now. It's a shame they can't mobilise some of the US Navy's roll on/roll off vessels in the interim.
At this point you are either a paid IDF shill, an idiot or both.
What a pathetic response
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Ymx wrote: Thu Apr 18, 2024 5:49 pm
C69 wrote: Thu Apr 18, 2024 11:11 am
Ymx wrote: Thu Apr 18, 2024 7:00 am

At this point you are either a paid IDF shill, an idiot or both.
What a pathetic response
Take a good look at the sites you link to and then go fuck yourself.
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C69 wrote: Thu Apr 18, 2024 6:16 pm
Ymx wrote: Thu Apr 18, 2024 5:49 pm
C69 wrote: Thu Apr 18, 2024 11:11 am
At this point you are either a paid IDF shill, an idiot or both.
What a pathetic response
Take a good look at the sites you link to and then go fuck yourself.
COGAT who are directly involved in the process and entry of AID.

And for some reason you think they are a terrible source to reference?!!

You’ve completely lost the plot, weird pikey scrote.
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Ymx wrote: Thu Apr 18, 2024 8:58 pm
C69 wrote: Thu Apr 18, 2024 6:16 pm
Ymx wrote: Thu Apr 18, 2024 5:49 pm

What a pathetic response
Take a good look at the sites you link to and then go fuck yourself.
COGAT who are directly involved in the process and entry of AID.

And for some reason you think they are a terrible source to reference?!!

You’ve completely lost the plot, weird pikey scrote.
Mail order brides first and now using racist terms like pikey.
Tut tut
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True colours always reveal themselves. Our boy is nothing more than a nasty little racist.
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Dunno, I think he’s just misunderstood. One day you lot will realise how right he was.
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Unconfirmed reports that Israel has attacked Iran (one target evidently).
I drink and I forget things.
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Enzedder wrote: Fri Apr 19, 2024 1:53 am Unconfirmed reports that Israel has attacked Iran (one target evidently).
We have confirmation that Israel has already attacked Iran with the strike on the embassy in Syria. Bibi is trying to draw the world into his personal hell hole.

Don't be like Bibi. Fuck Bibi.
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Israel attacks Iran, sources say, drones reported over Isfahan

By Humeyra Pamuk, Phil Stewart and Parisa Hafezi
April 19, 20246:38 AM GMT+1Updated 44 min ago



WASHINGTON/DUBAI, April 19 (Reuters) - Israel launched an attack on Iranian soil on Friday, sources said, in the latest tit-for-tat exchange between the two arch foes, whose decades of shadow war has broken out into the open and threatened to drag the region deeper into conflict.

Iranian media reported explosions, but an Iranian official told Reuters those were caused by air defense systems. State media said three drones over the central city of Isfahan had been shot down.

Israel's leadership and the military were silent early on Friday.

The United States received notification before Israel's attack, a source familiar with the situation told Reuters, which came days after Iran launched an unprecedented strike, opens new tab on Israel with a barrage of drones and missiles. Most of those were shot down.

Washington and other global powers had pressed to Israel not to respond, or to ensure any further retaliation, opens new tab was limited to prevent a broader conflagration after the latest surge in violence was sparked by the air strike on the Iranian embassy compound in Damascus on April 1 that was blamed on Israel.
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That strike came against the backdrop of Iran's support for the Palestinian Hamas militant group, whose assault into Israel on Oct. 7 triggered Israel's invasion of Gaza.
Iranian state TV said on Friday that shortly after midnight "three drones were observed in the sky over Isfahan. The air defense system became active and destroyed these drones in the sky."

Senior army commander Siavosh Mihandoust was quoted by state TV as saying air defense systems had targeted a "suspicious object".
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Iranian President Ebrahim Raisi had warned Israel before Friday's strike that Tehran would deliver a "severe response" to any attack on its territory.

Iran told the United Nations Security Council on Thursday that Israel "must be compelled to stop any further military adventurism against our interests" as the U.N. secretary-general warned that the Middle East was in a "moment of maximum peril."

Shares and bond yields sank in Asia trade while safe-haven currencies, gold and crude oil jumped. Brent futures surged as much as 4.2%% on concerns Middle East supply could be disrupted before shedding some gains. MSCI's broadest index of Asia-Pacific shares (.MIAP00000PUS), opens new tab dropped 2%, after earlier diving as much as 2.6%, and U.S. stock futures pointed 1% lower.
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Iran's state television said nuclear facilities where Iran has been conducting work - which Tehran says is peaceful but which the West believes is aimed at building a weapon - were unharmed.

The Natanz nuclear site, the centerpiece of Iran’s uranium enrichment program, is in Isfahan province.

Iran closed its airports in Tehran, Shiraz and Isfahan after the attack and also cleared flights from the western portion of its airspace for a few hours after the attack, according to FlightRadar24. By 0445 GMT the airports and airspace had reopened.

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Israel's assault on Gaza began after Palestinian Islamist group Hamas attacked Israel on Oct. 7, killing 1,200, according to Israeli tallies. Israel's military offensive has killed over 33,000 Palestinians in Gaza, according to the local health ministry.

Iran-backed groups have declared support for Palestinians, launching attacks from Lebanon, Yemen and Iraq.
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Reporting by Humeyra Panuk, Phil Stewart and Idrees Ali in Washington and Parisa Hafezi in Dubai; Additional reporting by Kanishka Singh, Jasper Ward, Jamie Freed and Dan Williams; Writing by Stephen Coates; Editing by William Mallard
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Guy Smiley wrote: Fri Apr 19, 2024 3:35 am
Enzedder wrote: Fri Apr 19, 2024 1:53 am Unconfirmed reports that Israel has attacked Iran (one target evidently).
We have confirmation that Israel has already attacked Iran with the strike on the embassy in Syria. Bibi is trying to draw the world into his personal hell hole.

Don't be like Bibi. Fuck Bibi.
And Joe's asleep at the wheel.

Imagine thinking you could allow an ally a bit of unaccountable slaughter and it makes the world safer. Oh well, oil prices are up and Biden will pay for his folly.
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In fairness, this is a good bit milder than expected.
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Uncle fester wrote: Fri Apr 19, 2024 7:08 am In fairness, this is a good bit milder than expected.
What do you mean?
The pathetic blood thirsty racist reactionary maniacs response or Israel's bombing of Iran?
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C69 wrote: Fri Apr 19, 2024 8:06 am
Uncle fester wrote: Fri Apr 19, 2024 7:08 am In fairness, this is a good bit milder than expected.
What do you mean?
The pathetic blood thirsty racist reactionary maniacs response or Israel's bombing of Iran?
Your reaction is so balanced and stable.

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I like neeps wrote: Fri Apr 19, 2024 6:29 am
Guy Smiley wrote: Fri Apr 19, 2024 3:35 am
Enzedder wrote: Fri Apr 19, 2024 1:53 am Unconfirmed reports that Israel has attacked Iran (one target evidently).
We have confirmation that Israel has already attacked Iran with the strike on the embassy in Syria. Bibi is trying to draw the world into his personal hell hole.

Don't be like Bibi. Fuck Bibi.
And Joe's asleep at the wheel.

Imagine thinking you could allow an ally a bit of unaccountable slaughter and it makes the world safer. Oh well, oil prices are up and Biden will pay for his folly.
Exactly how is Biden expected to be able to control a maniac like Bibi? Yes, I know the answer: stop supplying weapons to Israel but that ain't gonna happen.
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Shocking moment Met police officer threatens to arrest man for being 'quite openly Jewish' at pro-Palestine march
19 April 2024, 00:04 | Updated: 19 April 2024, 07:25


Shocking moment Met police officer threatens to arrest man for being 'quite openly Jewish' at pro-Palestine march

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A Met police officer threatened to arrest a man for "breaching the peace" at a pro-Palestine march as he was "quite openly Jewish".

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The man - who was wearing a kippah on his head - was trying to cross a road in the Aldwych area of London when he was stopped by police.

A video shared by Campaign Against Antisemitism from the march last weekend showed the man saying to the officer: "I don't want to stay here, I want to leave."

The officer responded: "In that case sir, when the crowd is gone I will happily escort you out."

The man then attempted to walk across the road before being blocked.

Read more: Ten arrests after pro-Israel and pro-Palestine groups clash in London

Read more: Shocking moment Met Police officer says ‘swastikas need to be looked at in context’ at pro-Palestine march in London

"I don't want anybody antagonising anybody... and at the moment sir, you are quite openly Jewish. This is a pro-Palestinian march," one officer said.

"I am not accusing you of anything but I am worried about the reaction to your presence."

He later added: "There's a unit of people here now. You will be escorted out of this area so you can go about your business, go where you want freely or if you choose to remain here because you are causing a breach of peace, with all these other people, you will be arrested.

"Your presence here is antagonising a large group of people that we can't deal with all of them if they attack you... because your presence is antagonising them."


The clip also showed an interaction with another officer, who said: "I am trying to make sure you are safe and that no one attacks you or your group or anyone else, that's all."

The Jewish man responded saying: "I'd like that too but your sergeant here has told me that because I'm Jewish, it's antagonistic to the crowd and it's dangerous for me."

"I'm not saying that," the second officer said.

"But he's just said that," the man said. "Do you have any idea what it's like being a Jew in London at the moment?"

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He continued: "Let me tell you, this goes on every Saturday, you probably know it, your colleagues know it. You guys are on the front line. The route changes every single week, you never have any idea where it's going to be.

"Because you're Jewish in London, you now have to cross these huge groups of people. It's intimidating enough and now look at the number of police that are around her... I'm just a Jew in London trying to cross the road.

"I've been told repeatedly by the Met that these are completely safe for Jews, that I should have nothing to worry about and yet here I find myself in this bubble.

"This guy has just been shouting at me and shoving me because I want to cross the road."

Speaking about his experience later on, the man said he sympathised with frontline officers who are put in "impossible positions" every week.

Responding to the clip, the Met said: "We are aware of this video and fully acknowledge the worry it has caused, not only to those featured, but also anyone who watches it, and will review the circumstances.

"We have always said that we recognise the conflict between Israel and Hamas continues to be an issue of concern for many Londoners, and this includes the regular protests and marches in central London.

"Everyone has the right to travel throughout the capital in safety.

"We will meet and discuss with anyone who wishes to organise a march or protest ahead of 27 April."


Jocelin Weiss calls for 'anti-bias training' in the Met

It comes after officers were previously filmed telling a Jewish woman that swastikas shown in a pro-Palestine march needed to be "taken in context".

Jocelin Weiss told police that she saw the Nazi symbol being displayed on banners during a march through London.

She was told that displaying a swastika was "not necessarily anti-Semitic" nor "a disruption of public order". The furious activist asked the police officer in what context a swastika could not be seen as anti-Semitic.

One officer replied: "I didn't say it was or it wasn't."

A Met Police Chief Inspector then interrupted and said: "A swastika on its own, I don't think is..."

Speaking on LBC's Nick Ferrari at Breakfast, Ms Weiss said she believed there was a lapse in education and training in the Met police.

She said the pro-Palestine marches were "out of control", adding that "you don't need to be a master of semiotics" to know the meaning of the swastika.

The American documentary maker told Nick: "I think it's a lack of literacy. I wasn't educated in British schools, I live here now, I really do love London, but I don't know what education there is in regards to literacy on this issue.

"Clearly there is a gap. There needs to be anti-bias training programmes in regards to anti-Semitism with the Met.

"There is clearly a lapse in communication and a lapse in this training - whether that comes from the Community Security Trust (CST) I'm not sure but there needs to be a training in this regard because there's a lack of education."
https://www.lbc.co.uk/news/met-police-o ... ine-march/
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Tehran plays down reported Israeli attacks, signals no further retaliation

https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-ea ... 024-04-19/
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epwc wrote: Wed Apr 17, 2024 12:46 pm There are no innocent Gazans, and muslims in the UK are just takers robbing our benefits system, says a woman whose husband has been a tax exile in Monaco for 13 years:

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/h ... 29584.html

I can pretty much guarantee that I personally (excluding my businesses) have paid more UK tax in my life than Mr Froome ever has. My dad died in London Hospital of prostate cancer, one day I was sitting by his bedside and he said to me "I'm so glad I paid my taxes, the amount of money these fuckers must have spent on me is ridiculous" at the peak of his business he directly employed 250 staff, no non doms in our family even though our accountants have wanted us to for a long time.
No one has ever paid any attention, ever, to what Mrs Froome has said. She is an utter gobshite.
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Tichtheid wrote: Fri Apr 19, 2024 9:29 am Tehran plays down reported Israeli attacks, signals no further retaliation

https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-ea ... 024-04-19/
Jesus. Things are tough when the Iranians appear to be the adults in the room.
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Ymx wrote: Fri Apr 19, 2024 8:44 am Joos are safe in London. Not hate marchers
Shocking moment Met police officer threatens to arrest man for being 'quite openly Jewish' at pro-Palestine march
19 April 2024, 00:04 | Updated: 19 April 2024, 07:25


Shocking moment Met police officer threatens to arrest man for being 'quite openly Jewish' at pro-Palestine march

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By Emma Soteriou
A Met police officer threatened to arrest a man for "breaching the peace" at a pro-Palestine march as he was "quite openly Jewish".

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The man - who was wearing a kippah on his head - was trying to cross a road in the Aldwych area of London when he was stopped by police.

A video shared by Campaign Against Antisemitism from the march last weekend showed the man saying to the officer: "I don't want to stay here, I want to leave."

The officer responded: "In that case sir, when the crowd is gone I will happily escort you out."

The man then attempted to walk across the road before being blocked.

Read more: Ten arrests after pro-Israel and pro-Palestine groups clash in London

Read more: Shocking moment Met Police officer says ‘swastikas need to be looked at in context’ at pro-Palestine march in London

"I don't want anybody antagonising anybody... and at the moment sir, you are quite openly Jewish. This is a pro-Palestinian march," one officer said.

"I am not accusing you of anything but I am worried about the reaction to your presence."

He later added: "There's a unit of people here now. You will be escorted out of this area so you can go about your business, go where you want freely or if you choose to remain here because you are causing a breach of peace, with all these other people, you will be arrested.

"Your presence here is antagonising a large group of people that we can't deal with all of them if they attack you... because your presence is antagonising them."


The clip also showed an interaction with another officer, who said: "I am trying to make sure you are safe and that no one attacks you or your group or anyone else, that's all."

The Jewish man responded saying: "I'd like that too but your sergeant here has told me that because I'm Jewish, it's antagonistic to the crowd and it's dangerous for me."

"I'm not saying that," the second officer said.

"But he's just said that," the man said. "Do you have any idea what it's like being a Jew in London at the moment?"

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He continued: "Let me tell you, this goes on every Saturday, you probably know it, your colleagues know it. You guys are on the front line. The route changes every single week, you never have any idea where it's going to be.

"Because you're Jewish in London, you now have to cross these huge groups of people. It's intimidating enough and now look at the number of police that are around her... I'm just a Jew in London trying to cross the road.

"I've been told repeatedly by the Met that these are completely safe for Jews, that I should have nothing to worry about and yet here I find myself in this bubble.

"This guy has just been shouting at me and shoving me because I want to cross the road."

Speaking about his experience later on, the man said he sympathised with frontline officers who are put in "impossible positions" every week.

Responding to the clip, the Met said: "We are aware of this video and fully acknowledge the worry it has caused, not only to those featured, but also anyone who watches it, and will review the circumstances.

"We have always said that we recognise the conflict between Israel and Hamas continues to be an issue of concern for many Londoners, and this includes the regular protests and marches in central London.

"Everyone has the right to travel throughout the capital in safety.

"We will meet and discuss with anyone who wishes to organise a march or protest ahead of 27 April."


Jocelin Weiss calls for 'anti-bias training' in the Met

It comes after officers were previously filmed telling a Jewish woman that swastikas shown in a pro-Palestine march needed to be "taken in context".

Jocelin Weiss told police that she saw the Nazi symbol being displayed on banners during a march through London.

She was told that displaying a swastika was "not necessarily anti-Semitic" nor "a disruption of public order". The furious activist asked the police officer in what context a swastika could not be seen as anti-Semitic.

One officer replied: "I didn't say it was or it wasn't."

A Met Police Chief Inspector then interrupted and said: "A swastika on its own, I don't think is..."

Speaking on LBC's Nick Ferrari at Breakfast, Ms Weiss said she believed there was a lapse in education and training in the Met police.

She said the pro-Palestine marches were "out of control", adding that "you don't need to be a master of semiotics" to know the meaning of the swastika.

The American documentary maker told Nick: "I think it's a lack of literacy. I wasn't educated in British schools, I live here now, I really do love London, but I don't know what education there is in regards to literacy on this issue.

"Clearly there is a gap. There needs to be anti-bias training programmes in regards to anti-Semitism with the Met.

"There is clearly a lapse in communication and a lapse in this training - whether that comes from the Community Security Trust (CST) I'm not sure but there needs to be a training in this regard because there's a lack of education."
https://www.lbc.co.uk/news/met-police-o ... ine-march/
I have to say I was appalled at this. Same situation with any other minority and there would be hell to pay. Basically signs that the police are giving up the streets and the rule of law to these people.

Much the same as the arrogant, lazy arsehole who sat swirling his coffee whilst claiming that swastikas need to be viewed in context. There is only one fucking reason swastikas are being displayed at an anti Israel march and it is a wholly illegal one.
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I like neeps wrote: Fri Apr 19, 2024 6:29 am
Guy Smiley wrote: Fri Apr 19, 2024 3:35 am

We have confirmation that Israel has already attacked Iran with the strike on the embassy in Syria. Bibi is trying to draw the world into his personal hell hole.

Don't be like Bibi. Fuck Bibi.
And Joe's asleep at the wheel.

Imagine thinking you could allow an ally a bit of unaccountable slaughter and it makes the world safer. Oh well, oil prices are up and Biden will pay for his folly.
Exactly how is Biden expected to be able to control a maniac like Bibi? Yes, I know the answer: stop supplying weapons to Israel but that ain't gonna happen.
No it won't... But he could say the US will vote at the UN for Palestinian statehood etc.
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The “starvation” continues

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Ymx wrote: Fri Apr 19, 2024 3:28 pm The “starvation” continues

From Haaretz:
When Azuz said he believed that the Gazans were receiving a "reasonable response," Cohen-Lifshitz made a comment along the lines of, "So they're running after the trucks and dying just for the fun of it." Berman made a face suggesting he wasn't impressed, and Vogelman said: "Ms. Lifshitz, you will be able to respond, of course."

Azuz proudly recounted that "just last month we brought in more than 400 trucks that went north and reached the population." When Cohen-Lifshitz's turn came, she pounced.

"He's talking about 400 trucks a month? The UN secretary general, the World Health Organization and all the organizations are saying that northern Gaza needs 300 trucks a day, and we're hearing from you about 400 trucks a month.

"Even if the UN is … exaggerating, if the UN secretary general is exaggerating, the difference between 400 trucks a month and 300 trucks a day is a huge difference, a difference causing the death of babies, of children. And if we don't compensate for this difference immediately, it will lead to a catastrophe unlike anything we've seen in recent decades."
"starvation"
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UN says it still faces obstacles in bid to fend off famine in Gaza
By Michelle Nichols
April 16, 202410:51 PM GMT+1Updated 3 days ago

UNITED NATIONS, April 16 (Reuters) - The United Nations is still struggling to prevent famine in the Gaza Strip and while there had been some improvement in coordination with Israel, aid deliveries in the enclave still faced difficulties, a senior U.N. aid official said on Tuesday.
Andrea De Domenico, head of the U.N. Office for the Coordination of Humanitarian Affairs in the Occupied Palestinian Territory, said aid deliveries within Gaza were facing significant checkpoint delays and that last week 41% of U.N. requests to deliver aid to northern Gaza were denied.

"We're dealing with this dance where we do one step forward, two steps backward, or two steps forward, one step backward, which leaves us basically always at the same point," De Domenico told reporters.
"For every new opportunity that we've been given, we will find yet another challenge to deal with," he said. "So it's really, really difficult for us to scale up to where we would like to be."
The U.N. has long complained of obstacles to getting aid in and distributing it throughout Gaza. But global outrage at the humanitarian crisis in the enclave of 2.3 million people escalated after Israeli airstrikes on April 1 killed World Central Kitchen aid workers.

Israel has since approved reopening the Erez crossing into northern Gaza and temporary use of Ashdod port in southern Israel after U.S. President Joe Biden demanded steps to alleviate the humanitarian crisis in Gaza, saying conditions could be placed on U.S. support for Israel if it did not act.
"There has been a steady increase of the number of trucks that have entered," said De Domenico, adding that the U.N. did not know how many private aid deliveries Israel had allowed into northern Gaza. But he said the focus also needed to be on improving aid access within Gaza.

"The problem is it's not just about food. The problem is that famine is much more complex ... it's much bigger than simply bringing in flour," he said. "Water, sanitation and health are fundamental to curb famine."
U.S. officials have noted steady progress in the amount of aid that goes into Gaza, the U.S. State Department said on Tuesday, but it was still not at the desired level and Washington was working to improve that.

Israel is retaliating against Hamas in Gaza over a deadly Oct. 7 attack on Israel by the Palestinian militant group, saying they killed some 1,200 people and took more than 250 people hostage. Gaza health authorities say Israel has killed more than 33,000 people since.

https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-ea ... 024-04-16/
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Ymx wrote: Fri Apr 19, 2024 3:28 pm The “starvation” continues

Thanks for posting IDF propaganda.
Thank fuck nobody is posting HAMAS shit.
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Tichtheid wrote: Fri Apr 19, 2024 3:54 pm UN says it still faces obstacles in bid to fend off famine in Gaza
By Michelle Nichols
April 16, 202410:51 PM GMT+1Updated 3 days ago

UNITED NATIONS, April 16 (Reuters) - The United Nations is still struggling to prevent famine in the Gaza Strip and while there had been some improvement in coordination with Israel, aid deliveries in the enclave still faced difficulties, a senior U.N. aid official said on Tuesday.
Andrea De Domenico, head of the U.N. Office for the Coordination of Humanitarian Affairs in the Occupied Palestinian Territory, said aid deliveries within Gaza were facing significant checkpoint delays and that last week 41% of U.N. requests to deliver aid to northern Gaza were denied.

"We're dealing with this dance where we do one step forward, two steps backward, or two steps forward, one step backward, which leaves us basically always at the same point," De Domenico told reporters.
"For every new opportunity that we've been given, we will find yet another challenge to deal with," he said. "So it's really, really difficult for us to scale up to where we would like to be."
The U.N. has long complained of obstacles to getting aid in and distributing it throughout Gaza. But global outrage at the humanitarian crisis in the enclave of 2.3 million people escalated after Israeli airstrikes on April 1 killed World Central Kitchen aid workers.

Israel has since approved reopening the Erez crossing into northern Gaza and temporary use of Ashdod port in southern Israel after U.S. President Joe Biden demanded steps to alleviate the humanitarian crisis in Gaza, saying conditions could be placed on U.S. support for Israel if it did not act.
"There has been a steady increase of the number of trucks that have entered," said De Domenico, adding that the U.N. did not know how many private aid deliveries Israel had allowed into northern Gaza. But he said the focus also needed to be on improving aid access within Gaza.

"The problem is it's not just about food. The problem is that famine is much more complex ... it's much bigger than simply bringing in flour," he said. "Water, sanitation and health are fundamental to curb famine."
U.S. officials have noted steady progress in the amount of aid that goes into Gaza, the U.S. State Department said on Tuesday, but it was still not at the desired level and Washington was working to improve that.

Israel is retaliating against Hamas in Gaza over a deadly Oct. 7 attack on Israel by the Palestinian militant group, saying they killed some 1,200 people and took more than 250 people hostage. Gaza health authorities say Israel has killed more than 33,000 people since.

https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-ea ... 024-04-16/
I'm sure Ymx will find another link from the IDF countering all that.
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Tilly Orifice wrote: Fri Apr 19, 2024 3:45 pm
"starvation"
It’s difficult to know where to begin with that, to be honest.
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SaintK wrote: Fri Apr 19, 2024 3:59 pm
I'm sure Ymx will find another link from the IDF countering all that.
I noticed something about ten years ago or so. I used to take my wife to the station for the twenty past five train to London, so we’d watch middle of the night tv in bed for a bit before getting up. They showed the programme Hard Talk at that time. This is a long-winded way of saying that it was about that time that I noticed Israeli government representatives become extremely hard line and refuse to countenance even the tiniest sliver of a concession in the language and how their actions were portrayed. They were 100% in the right, absolutely no question about it.

This continues today and it’s why I would take anything that comes from them with the largest of pinches of salt. What I find hard to understand is why anyone falls for it all, hook line and sinker.
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