The Official Scottish Rugby Thread

[clydecloggie]

Kinghorn potentially in another final when they fly out though.

True enough, but there is no mention of him joining the squad later.

Their season is so long that they will be in training soon after any final anyway

Needs time off ahead of starting all 3 Lions' Tests next summer.

If he keeps developing like he has in his half-season at Toulouse up to now, you'd think that's not too far from the truth.

[Yr Alban]

There is a small part of me that thinks the only reason VdM is included is to wipe Hogg off the top of the record try list. Would be a surprise if he doesn't bag at least two on tour.

Nae chance Toonie is that petty.

I'm guessing vdm is going as (a) he's not had a great season and (b) get us out of any tight spots. Rowe, Reid, Steyn, and Patterson is also a green back three. Not actually too much depth at wing as nobody has really missed selection.

Eh… I dunno about that. I reckon Toony is well capable of major pettiness if the mood takes him.

[KingBlairhorn]

TOL reporting the SRU’s preferred candidate for CEO has pulled out right before being announced. The cynic in me says between this, the fucking up of club rugby and the inability to hire a new performance director that the blazerati are currently finding out corporate governance in professional sport is actually quite demanding.

[Jock42]

I hope however comes in reinstates the super series.

[Tichtheid]

I hope however comes in reinstates the super series.

The current Vice President of the SRU board railed for years against the Super 6 in TOL before getting elected. He was also against more regional leagues - the status of the clubs is his motivation, any new CEO would have a fight on their hands if they wanted the S6, or similar, back.

[Jock42]

I hope however comes in reinstates the super series.

The current Vice President of the SRU board railed for years against the Super 6 in TOL before getting elected. He was also against more regional leagues - the status of the clubs is his motivation, any new CEO would have a fight on their hands if they wanted the S6, or similar, back.

I'm hoping (throwing it around a lot here) that this is a kick up the arse for these cunts.

[Biffer]

Some hints from Toonie that some players might not do the whole tour. Wouldn't be surprised to see the likes of VdM and Schoeman come home after the USA and Canada games.

[Biffer]

I hope however comes in reinstates the super series.

The current Vice President of the SRU board railed for years against the Super 6 in TOL before getting elected. He was also against more regional leagues - the status of the clubs is his motivation, any new CEO would have a fight on their hands if they wanted the S6, or similar, back.

I'm hoping (throwing it around a lot here) that this is a kick up the arse for these cunts.

Let's hope so, but there's an entire generation that needs to die off before we get past this mentality imo.

[topofthemoon]

Some hints from Toonie that some players might not do the whole tour. Wouldn't be surprised to see the likes of VdM and Schoeman come home after the USA and Canada games.

The players at English and French clubs will leave before the Uruguay game as it's outside the official Test window. Sutherland and Hastings will be alright as their contracts should be with Glasgow by that point. Not sure if Sharks and Scarlets will be flexible with Richardson and Craig.

[KingBlairhorn]

The current Vice President of the SRU board railed for years against the Super 6 in TOL before getting elected. He was also against more regional leagues - the status of the clubs is his motivation, any new CEO would have a fight on their hands if they wanted the S6, or similar, back.

I'm hoping (throwing it around a lot here) that this is a kick up the arse for these cunts.

Let's hope so, but there's an entire generation that needs to die off before we get past this mentality imo.

Not a chance. The hubris in these sorts is too strong.

[I like neeps]

I hope however comes in reinstates the super series.

I don't think it will. I'd like Edinburgh and Glasgow u21s in the premiership as standalone teams.

[Tichtheid]

I hope however comes in reinstates the super series.

I don't think it will. I'd like Edinburgh and Glasgow u21s in the premiership as standalone teams.

It's not a bad idea (maybe U23s as that is the new academy age).

It will get dismissed out of hand by the clubs - or I can see them saying, "Fine, but they they will have to start in West/East Region Division 3 and see if they can get promotion" - 7 tiers down.

[KingBlairhorn]

I hope however comes in reinstates the super series.

I don't think it will. I'd like Edinburgh and Glasgow u21s in the premiership as standalone teams.

It's not a bad idea (maybe U23s as that is the new academy age).

It will get dismissed out of hand by the clubs - or I can see them saying, "Fine, but they they will have to start in West/East Region Division 3 and see if they can get promotion" - 7 tiers down.

Given Boroughmuir Stirling County were S6 teams and both were 'relegated' to Nat 1 next season rather than dislodge current Prem teams, I cannot see there being any chance of two SRU funded teams being parachuted into the top league. I agree they would be asked to start at the bottom of the pyramid. That's not necessarily a terrible solution if they start with U18 teams, but it would mean U18 players not playing for their 'main' clubs which would be controversial in itself.

[Dogbert]

Not any surprises for Glasgow, for tomorrow's semi final.

Hopefully will be a cracking game, with the good guys getting the right result


1.Jamie Bhatti (104)
2 Johnny Matthews (71)
3 Zander Fagerson (147)
4 Scott Cummings (124)
5 Richie Gray (113)
6 Matt Fagerson (109)
7 Rory Darge (46)
8 Jack Dempsey (48)

9 George Horne (117)
10 Tom Jordan (48)
11 Kyle Steyn (C) (75)
12 Sione Tuipulotu (53)
13 Huw Jones (69)
14 Sebastian Cancelliere (36)
15 Josh McKay (47)

Replacements

16 George Turner (100)
17 Oli Kebble (103)
18 Murphy Walker (13)
19 Max Williamson (18)
20 Euan Ferrie (19)
21 Henco Venter (19)
22 Jamie Dobie (66)
23 Ross Thompson (50)

Unavailable for selection: Fraser Brown (knee), Allan Dell (arm), JP du Preez (knee), Nathan McBeth (head), Ally Miller (calf), Alex Samuel (head), Ollie Smith (knee), Lucio Sordoni (foot), Sione Vailanu (knee).

[topofthemoon]

Match preview for Munster v Glasgow:

https://www.scotlandrugbynews.com/analy ... emi-final/

And also a look at some classic encounters between these two sides:

https://www.scotlandrugbynews.com/analy ... revisited/

[Jock42]

Well done Weegies. Well fucking done.

[Begbie]

Yaaaaaaaaaaasss Glasgow. The defence was incredible.

[Yr Alban]

Wow. A statement win, away from home in Ireland, at the business end of the tournament? Are we really talking about a Scottish side here?

Well done weegies. That’s made me feel a bit better after the horror show that was the football last night.

[Big D]

Excellent win.

[dkm57]

Just WOW!!

[Tichtheid]

Glasgow were very good this evening, they will need a similar step up in quality next week

[I like neeps]

Absolutely unbelievable to kick Munster out at their own patch.

What a total c*nt O'Mahoney is.

[KingBlairhorn]

Just finished watching on delay, that was bloody brilliant.

[TartanBear]

Very impressive from Glasgow. What a change the new coach has made, but funnily enough, if the game is loose, it may be pretty even and open. It never ceases to amaze me just how close some of these games can go. Literally just a knock on, collapsed scrum, badly timed pass/tackle and you are a winner or loser. We all remember how tough it was in the heat of the moment to execute our basic skills at whatever level we played at and national championships get determined upon it. Awesome. Good luck, Glasgow.

[Slick]

Just watching a few highlights. Huw Jones is such a magnificent player, must be in Lions contention.

Also fascinated by Jordan at 10. Still very rough around the edges but there is something there

[clydecloggie]

Just watching a few highlights. Huw Jones is such a magnificent player, must be in Lions contention.

Also fascinated by Jordan at 10. Still very rough around the edges but there is something there

I think Glasgow's 'no stand-off, three centres' approach is a vastly underrated rugby innovation.

[robmatic]

Just watching a few highlights. Huw Jones is such a magnificent player, must be in Lions contention.

Also fascinated by Jordan at 10. Still very rough around the edges but there is something there

He doesn't have the kicking game to be a 10 really but looks like he would be a cracking 12 in a team that wasn't already well-stocked there.

[dpedin]

Usually I watch these games through my fingers waiting for the usual Scottish team to collapse under the weight of expectation but last night was different. I never thought Glasgow were going to lose even when under a bit of pressure, they knew what Munster were going to do before Munster did and negated their attack. Glasgow also looked the more likely to score on a number of occasions and scored a cracking try to finish the game off. Well deserved win despite Munster trying every trick in the book to win the game. The Weegies held firm and won the mental game.

[Slick]

Just watching a few highlights. Huw Jones is such a magnificent player, must be in Lions contention.

Also fascinated by Jordan at 10. Still very rough around the edges but there is something there

He doesn't have the kicking game to be a 10 really but looks like he would be a cracking 12 in a team that wasn't already well-stocked there.

Yes, spot on re 10, and that’s a very difficult thing to develop as he gets older, but I love his attitude to the position. My foot very nearly went through the TV when he missed that penalty to touch in the last 10

[Dogbert]

Was this better that beating Munster in the Pro 12 final in Belfast , well no , but pretty damn close.

So many positives last night - Outmunstering Munster at Thomond park - not many Teams do that.

You can pick out so many good individual performances - Sione ( whose form had dipped prior to the Stormers , but is back to it's best ) / Jones - who has had precious little game time this season - Fagersons - both of them - Zander is in the form of his life - and Matt - well , we go on about Scotland not having a hard edged bastard like POM , just because he doesn't look like a hard edged bastard ( like POM does ) doesn't not make him one - as last night showed. Darge / Dempsey - both excellent

But I will pick out another 2 , rather unsung heroes

Jamie Bhatti - absolute rock yesterday - and has been for most of the season when he has been playing - nothing Flash , but gets through a huge work load.

Captain Kyle - 5 tries in the last six games , and a gain huge work ethic - but as a Captain , he brings so much more - they way he interacts with the rest of the Glasgow Team , and how he works / responds with referees.

Glasgow had obviously got on the wrong side of Piardi at the start ( Piardi was fine for both sides - not perfect, but the no one is ), but the way Steyn communicated with his team , and Piardi was a masterclass of captaincy. No huge celebrations on the pitch last night from Glasgow - they know they have won nothing yet.

The current Team simply doesn't have players of the calibre of Russell / Hogg / Nakarawa / Matawalu - but overall its a better team - and with some serious talent coming through with Williamson / Samuel / Ferrie / Fraser / Walker - Glasgow look to be on the up.

Munster fans were great last night - if you have never been to Thomond Park , you are missing out on one hell of an experience

Flights booked to Pretoria - just need to double up on the Ramipril

[TheNatalShark]

Absolutely did not think the weegies would be here a month ago, incredibly well done.

[Uncle fester]

Was this better that beating Munster in the Pro 12 final in Belfast , well no , but pretty damn close.

So many positives last night - Outmunstering Munster at Thomond park - not many Teams do that.

You can pick out so many good individual performances - Sione ( whose form had dipped prior to the Stormers , but is back to it's best ) / Jones - who has had precious little game time this season - Fagersons - both of them - Zander is in the form of his life - and Matt - well , we go on about Scotland not having a hard edged bastard like POM , just because he doesn't look like a hard edged bastard ( like POM does ) doesn't not make him one - as last night showed. Darge / Dempsey - both excellent

But I will pick out another 2 , rather unsung heroes

Jamie Bhatti - absolute rock yesterday - and has been for most of the season when he has been playing - nothing Flash , but gets through a huge work load.

Captain Kyle - 5 tries in the last six games , and a gain huge work ethic - but as a Captain , he brings so much more - they way he interacts with the rest of the Glasgow Team , and how he works / responds with referees.

Glasgow had obviously got on the wrong side of Piardi at the start ( Piardi was fine for both sides - not perfect, but the no one is ), but the way Steyn communicated with his team , and Piardi was a masterclass of captaincy. No huge celebrations on the pitch last night from Glasgow - they know they have won nothing yet.

The current Team simply doesn't have players of the calibre of Russell / Hogg / Nakarawa / Matawalu - but overall its a better team - and with some serious talent coming through with Williamson / Samuel / Ferrie / Fraser / Walker - Glasgow look to be on the up.

Munster fans were great last night - if you have never been to Thomond Park , you are missing out on one hell of an experience

Flights booked to Pretoria - just need to double up on the Ramipril

Glad you came over and hope you had a good time. Congrats on the result and the performance. Completely shut us down.

[Dogbert]

Was this better that beating Munster in the Pro 12 final in Belfast , well no , but pretty damn close.

So many positives last night - Outmunstering Munster at Thomond park - not many Teams do that.

You can pick out so many good individual performances - Sione ( whose form had dipped prior to the Stormers , but is back to it's best ) / Jones - who has had precious little game time this season - Fagersons - both of them - Zander is in the form of his life - and Matt - well , we go on about Scotland not having a hard edged bastard like POM , just because he doesn't look like a hard edged bastard ( like POM does ) doesn't not make him one - as last night showed. Darge / Dempsey - both excellent

But I will pick out another 2 , rather unsung heroes

Jamie Bhatti - absolute rock yesterday - and has been for most of the season when he has been playing - nothing Flash , but gets through a huge work load.

Captain Kyle - 5 tries in the last six games , and a gain huge work ethic - but as a Captain , he brings so much more - they way he interacts with the rest of the Glasgow Team , and how he works / responds with referees.

Glasgow had obviously got on the wrong side of Piardi at the start ( Piardi was fine for both sides - not perfect, but the no one is ), but the way Steyn communicated with his team , and Piardi was a masterclass of captaincy. No huge celebrations on the pitch last night from Glasgow - they know they have won nothing yet.

The current Team simply doesn't have players of the calibre of Russell / Hogg / Nakarawa / Matawalu - but overall its a better team - and with some serious talent coming through with Williamson / Samuel / Ferrie / Fraser / Walker - Glasgow look to be on the up.

Munster fans were great last night - if you have never been to Thomond Park , you are missing out on one hell of an experience

Flights booked to Pretoria - just need to double up on the Ramipril

Glad you came over and hope you had a good time. Congrats on the result and the performance. Completely shut us down.

Thanks Fester - the Munster fans were fantastic & create a truly great experience, , they really care about the Rugby , all I can say in consolation that at this level it comes down to small margins, Tadhg Beirne was immense - Good luck next year

Why was Coombes on the bench ?

Managed a Guinness in JJ Bowles , another one off the bucket list

[Uncle fester]

Limerick is a great rugby City. So many fantastic little pubs.

Honestly, I don't think it was that small a margin. If we had managed to level the game, you had plenty of time to get the winning score. Suspect the result last year gave your guys all the motivation they needed.

All year, we've been playing with a relatively strong bench in a copy of the Saffers bomb squad concept. By and large, it's worked quite well (see Ulster game for example) but it means you sometimes have relatively poor quality starters.

Didn't make a whole lot of difference yesterday as Glasgow weren't having any of it when we emptied the bench.

[westport]

Tickets are on sale for the U20 Trophy

https://www.eticketing.co.uk/scottishru ... MTZieXRlcw

[KingBlairhorn]

Tickets are on sale for the U20 Trophy

https://www.eticketing.co.uk/scottishru ... MTZieXRlcw

A bit gutted to see only one weekend game for us which of course coincides with a long arranged family gathering for me. I suppose the Japan game is a Friday night but I would have loved to head along for a Saturday and watch a few matches in a row with some pals culminating in a Scotland game.

[C T]

Was this better that beating Munster in the Pro 12 final in Belfast , well no , but pretty damn close.

So many positives last night - Outmunstering Munster at Thomond park - not many Teams do that.

You can pick out so many good individual performances - Sione ( whose form had dipped prior to the Stormers , but is back to it's best ) / Jones - who has had precious little game time this season - Fagersons - both of them - Zander is in the form of his life - and Matt - well , we go on about Scotland not having a hard edged bastard like POM , just because he doesn't look like a hard edged bastard ( like POM does ) doesn't not make him one - as last night showed. Darge / Dempsey - both excellent

But I will pick out another 2 , rather unsung heroes

Jamie Bhatti - absolute rock yesterday - and has been for most of the season when he has been playing - nothing Flash , but gets through a huge work load.

Captain Kyle - 5 tries in the last six games , and a gain huge work ethic - but as a Captain , he brings so much more - they way he interacts with the rest of the Glasgow Team , and how he works / responds with referees.

Glasgow had obviously got on the wrong side of Piardi at the start ( Piardi was fine for both sides - not perfect, but the no one is ), but the way Steyn communicated with his team , and Piardi was a masterclass of captaincy. No huge celebrations on the pitch last night from Glasgow - they know they have won nothing yet.

The current Team simply doesn't have players of the calibre of Russell / Hogg / Nakarawa / Matawalu - but overall its a better team - and with some serious talent coming through with Williamson / Samuel / Ferrie / Fraser / Walker - Glasgow look to be on the up.

Munster fans were great last night - if you have never been to Thomond Park , you are missing out on one hell of an experience

Flights booked to Pretoria - just need to double up on the Ramipril

Good point around Matt Fagerson, he was winding up POM all day so far as I could tell.

Also liked whatever it was that Stayne said to the ref about the home crown being an influence. That's a hard thing to say in the right way, might have played a part in the penalty tide turning. Might not have done of course.

Wee Horne taking as long as possible on his last kick. All in all just felt a lot smarter, and cooler heads. Which is a really good thing from a Scottish perspective, because we miss that so much.

I think Darge was told to empty the tank in the knowledge it would be a 60min game for him, he seemed to be all over the place.

Huw Jones is just class. A wee nod to Zander Fagerson last week vs Stormer too, that for me is his standard.

[topofthemoon]

So many stats from the Munster v Glasgow semi-final that I had to do a full article for some of the most weird and wonderful, including:

- Franco setting records;
- success in Ireland;
- key match stats on the march to victory;
- a quickfire stat for each of the 23 players in the matchday squad.

https://www.scotlandrugbynews.com/analy ... y-munster/

My personal favourite is:

"Turnovers won: Tom Jordan 3 - 2 Tadhg Beirne. There's a new breakdown king in town!"

[KingBlairhorn]

So many stats from the Munster v Glasgow semi-final that I had to do a full article for some of the most weird and wonderful, including:

- Franco setting records;
- success in Ireland;
- key match stats on the march to victory;
- a quickfire stat for each of the 23 players in the matchday squad.

https://www.scotlandrugbynews.com/analy ... y-munster/

My personal favourite is:

"Turnovers won: Tom Jordan 3 - 2 Tadhg Beirne. There's a new breakdown king in town!"

With the headband on it was like watching a Rory Darge cosplay.

[Slick]

Was this better that beating Munster in the Pro 12 final in Belfast , well no , but pretty damn close.

So many positives last night - Outmunstering Munster at Thomond park - not many Teams do that.

You can pick out so many good individual performances - Sione ( whose form had dipped prior to the Stormers , but is back to it's best ) / Jones - who has had precious little game time this season - Fagersons - both of them - Zander is in the form of his life - and Matt - well , we go on about Scotland not having a hard edged bastard like POM , just because he doesn't look like a hard edged bastard ( like POM does ) doesn't not make him one - as last night showed. Darge / Dempsey - both excellent

But I will pick out another 2 , rather unsung heroes

Jamie Bhatti - absolute rock yesterday - and has been for most of the season when he has been playing - nothing Flash , but gets through a huge work load.

Captain Kyle - 5 tries in the last six games , and a gain huge work ethic - but as a Captain , he brings so much more - they way he interacts with the rest of the Glasgow Team , and how he works / responds with referees.

Glasgow had obviously got on the wrong side of Piardi at the start ( Piardi was fine for both sides - not perfect, but the no one is ), but the way Steyn communicated with his team , and Piardi was a masterclass of captaincy. No huge celebrations on the pitch last night from Glasgow - they know they have won nothing yet.

The current Team simply doesn't have players of the calibre of Russell / Hogg / Nakarawa / Matawalu - but overall its a better team - and with some serious talent coming through with Williamson / Samuel / Ferrie / Fraser / Walker - Glasgow look to be on the up.

Munster fans were great last night - if you have never been to Thomond Park , you are missing out on one hell of an experience

Flights booked to Pretoria - just need to double up on the Ramipril

Good point around Matt Fagerson, he was winding up POM all day so far as I could tell.

Also liked whatever it was that Stayne said to the ref about the home crown being an influence. That's a hard thing to say in the right way, might have played a part in the penalty tide turning. Might not have done of course.

Wee Horne taking as long as possible on his last kick. All in all just felt a lot smarter, and cooler heads. Which is a really good thing from a Scottish perspective, because we miss that so much.

I think Darge was told to empty the tank in the knowledge it would be a 60min game for him, he seemed to be all over the place.

Huw Jones is just class. A wee nod to Zander Fagerson last week vs Stormer too, that for me is his standard.

Zander is definitely looking like he has stepped up another level but also that he has really matured and is leading from the front with none of the old nonsense