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Blackmac wrote: Sun Jun 30, 2024 12:47 pm
Guy Smiley wrote: Sun Jun 30, 2024 8:44 am
Slick wrote: Sun Jun 30, 2024 6:13 am Fantastic end to le tour yesterday. Had the wife and kids moaning at me most of the time I was watching then the 4 of us screaming at the TV for the last 5 minutes.
Again, I'm in the wrong timezone and relying on highlights packages... but that was a fairytale finish. Beyond scripting, just a magical way for day one to unfold and WvA taking the bunch sprint for third is icing on the cake.
Don't think I have ever seen a more brutal first stage. Reminded my of the Yorkshire stages with constant sharp climbs.
You have to wonder if someone wanted to sabotage Cav's record attempt on the first day. 🤔
Cav is a better climber than many of the sprinters. You'll remove plenty of his competition before you remove him.
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Dinsdale Piranha wrote: Sun Jun 30, 2024 2:46 pm
Blackmac wrote: Sun Jun 30, 2024 12:47 pm
Guy Smiley wrote: Sun Jun 30, 2024 8:44 am

Again, I'm in the wrong timezone and relying on highlights packages... but that was a fairytale finish. Beyond scripting, just a magical way for day one to unfold and WvA taking the bunch sprint for third is icing on the cake.
Don't think I have ever seen a more brutal first stage. Reminded my of the Yorkshire stages with constant sharp climbs.
You have to wonder if someone wanted to sabotage Cav's record attempt on the first day. 🤔
Cav is a better climber than many of the sprinters. You'll remove plenty of his competition before you remove him.
That was exactly my thoughts. Eurosport made a big thing about how close he would be but in the end he was a good 10 minutes.
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Two stages in and there are 4 heavyweights slugging it out in the ring already. I expected Vingegard to take some damage in these first few days as they're a brutal start but he's done really well and made a statement of his own... bodes well for the rest of the race.

Also, nice to see France get the first two stage wins in their own race... has to be said, it makes a pleasant change.
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Guy Smiley wrote: Sun Jun 30, 2024 8:45 pm Two stages in and there are 4 heavyweights slugging it out in the ring already. I expected Vingegard to take some damage in these first few days as they're a brutal start but he's done really well and made a statement of his own... bodes well for the rest of the race.

Also, nice to see France get the first two stage wins in their own race... has to be said, it makes a pleasant change.
Vingegard looked like he was taking the piss today which I wasn’t expecting at all.
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Yeeeeeeessssss.
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Genuinely happier for the bloke than I can remember being for another sportsman.

What an achievement

Edit - The overhead of that sprint tells you everything you need to know about him. Just perfect decision making to go with the kick.
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Margin__Walker wrote: Wed Jul 03, 2024 3:41 pm Genuinely happier for the bloke than I can remember being for another sportsman.

What an achievement

Edit - The overhead of that sprint tells you everything you need to know about him. Just perfect decision making to go with the kick.
Yep, dropped off his lead out and as he has done for years, picked the right wheels.

Looking at who he beat in the sprint today, you can hardly say it was an easy win either.
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Serious wattage in those last 200m :eek:
Fair fucks to him after waiting so long to get the 35th win. Unbelieveable performance at his age and against that level of competition.
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Over the moon so happy for cav. Pure magic
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The finish line was just outside of my office today , so I had the privilege of seeing the end of this stage, I was on the 350M line, Christ those guys are fast. I also made it to the podium in time to see Cav :smile: :smile: :smile:
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Like a margin says above, hard to remember being so genuinely happy for a sportsman. Delighted for him, astonishing that he won his first stage SIXTEEN years ago!
And are there two g’s in Bugger Off?
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Absolutely feckin brilliant! So pleased for Cav, well deserved!
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Is Eddie Merckx likely to be any more gracious this time do we think?
And are there two g’s in Bugger Off?
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Biffer wrote: Wed Jul 03, 2024 6:13 pm Is Eddie Merckx likely to be any more gracious this time do we think?
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Just seen the highlights (couldn't watch it live, daughter's graduation today) - what an amazing finish! Typical Cav, his ability and awareness to get on the right wheel (at 70kph) remains absolutely phenomenal. And still able to produce the speed, no-one got near him. Also so nice that everyone in the peloton was so pleased for him - Kristoff's smile as they came over the line was lovely see.
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Stranger wrote: Wed Jul 03, 2024 5:38 pm The finish line was just outside of my office today , so I had the privilege of seeing the end of this stage, I was on the 350M line, Christ those guys are fast. I also made it to the podium in time to see Cav :smile: :smile: :smile:
One of the best sprint finish I’ve seen, you were lucky to be there. :thumbup:
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Biffer wrote: Wed Jul 03, 2024 6:13 pm Is Eddie Merckx likely to be any more gracious this time do we think?
There is no question Merckx was a better all round cyclist. To me it actually highlights just how exceptional Cavendish is to have the record when he can only do one thing. He just does it much, much better than anyone else.

If you've not seen the documentary about Cav then watch it. Few people would come through that, get back up and get to 34, then have more troubles and then come back again at what is in cycling terms a very old man.

Vinokourov deserves a lot of plaudits for believing in Cav. Albeit it was a no lose for the team as they were getting publicity either way.
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Yup, that was awesome and so good to see so many riders and teams happy for him. Phenomenal achievement
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Stranger wrote: Wed Jul 03, 2024 5:38 pm The finish line was just outside of my office today , so I had the privilege of seeing the end of this stage, I was on the 350M line, Christ those guys are fast. I also made it to the podium in time to see Cav :smile: :smile: :smile:
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weegie01 wrote: Wed Jul 03, 2024 7:23 pm
Biffer wrote: Wed Jul 03, 2024 6:13 pm Is Eddie Merckx likely to be any more gracious this time do we think?
There is no question Merckx was a better all round cyclist. To me it actually highlights just how exceptional Cavendish is to have the record when he can only do one thing. He just does it much, much better than anyone else.

If you've not seen the documentary about Cav then watch it. Few people would come through that, get back up and get to 34, then have more troubles and then come back again at what is in cycling terms a very old man.

Vinokourov deserves a lot of plaudits for believing in Cav. Albeit it was a no lose for the team as they were getting publicity either way.
For me, you can win all the stages you win, but ultimately they only count towards your total if you finish the Tour !

I don't count the riders who win a few stages & then piss off to the Worlds, or the Olympics or whatever, because they clearly don't count Le Tour
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What channels are this on? Normally it's on multiple channels so we can have the French countryside rolling past on the telly every evening of the week but we're having to hunt for it this year.
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Uncle fester wrote: Wed Jul 03, 2024 11:15 pm What channels are this on? Normally it's on multiple channels so we can have the French countryside rolling past on the telly every evening of the week but we're having to hunt for it this year.
Eurosport and Discovery +
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Biffer wrote: Wed Jul 03, 2024 6:13 pm Is Eddie Merckx likely to be any more gracious this time do we think?
I'm not up to speed on whatever this is all about but this frames things a bit.

Merckx is the GOAT. He deserves whatever he does. He won nearly everything, not just tour stages.
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Sandstorm wrote: Thu Jul 04, 2024 4:32 am
Uncle fester wrote: Wed Jul 03, 2024 11:15 pm What channels are this on? Normally it's on multiple channels so we can have the French countryside rolling past on the telly every evening of the week but we're having to hunt for it this year.
Eurosport and Discovery +
ITV4 have a 1 hour stage highlight at 19:00 every night too
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Insane_Homer wrote: Thu Jul 04, 2024 5:51 am
Sandstorm wrote: Thu Jul 04, 2024 4:32 am
Uncle fester wrote: Wed Jul 03, 2024 11:15 pm What channels are this on? Normally it's on multiple channels so we can have the French countryside rolling past on the telly every evening of the week but we're having to hunt for it this year.
Eurosport and Discovery +
ITV4 have a 1 hour stage highlight at 19:00 every night too
They have the full day every day as well
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Guy Smiley wrote: Thu Jul 04, 2024 5:21 am
Biffer wrote: Wed Jul 03, 2024 6:13 pm Is Eddie Merckx likely to be any more gracious this time do we think?
I'm not up to speed on whatever this is all about but this frames things a bit.

Merckx is the GOAT. He deserves whatever he does. He won nearly everything, not just tour stages.
Merckx is indeed astonishing. It’s just a couple of years ago when Cav tied his record, he was pretty grumpy and ungracious when asked about it.
And are there two g’s in Bugger Off?
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Insane_Homer wrote: Thu Jul 04, 2024 5:51 am
Sandstorm wrote: Thu Jul 04, 2024 4:32 am
Uncle fester wrote: Wed Jul 03, 2024 11:15 pm What channels are this on? Normally it's on multiple channels so we can have the French countryside rolling past on the telly every evening of the week but we're having to hunt for it this year.
Eurosport and Discovery +
ITV4 have a 1 hour stage highlight at 19:00 every night too
Just watched the last 20 minutes or so.
Well done Cav, fucking brilliant :thumbup: :thumbup:
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Guy Smiley wrote: Thu Jul 04, 2024 5:21 am
Biffer wrote: Wed Jul 03, 2024 6:13 pm Is Eddie Merckx likely to be any more gracious this time do we think?
I'm not up to speed on whatever this is all about but this frames things a bit.

Merckx is the GOAT. He deserves whatever he does. He won nearly everything, not just tour stages.
Yeah. I think to Merckx the stage wins were just an obvious component of his tour victories and it not really possible to compare the two records as they are so different.
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I don't think Cav's finished for this tour. I reckon he might win more. Even after the first day he seemed mentally to be in a great place, now he has proved it physically as well.
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Blackmac wrote: Thu Jul 04, 2024 7:54 am I don't think Cav's finished for this tour. I reckon he might win more. Even after the first day he seemed mentally to be in a great place, now he has proved it physically as well.
I don't follow cycling very much, so have no idea of his form. But to see Philipsen giving it full gas and making no impression of Cav was incredible.

On the last Netflix doc Philipsen said Cav did not have the legs anymore, but had the craft. It appears he still has both. I thought Cav might get a heroic failure or two, but watching this I think you're right and he'll be a danger on more stages.
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weegie01 wrote: Thu Jul 04, 2024 8:37 am
Blackmac wrote: Thu Jul 04, 2024 7:54 am I don't think Cav's finished for this tour. I reckon he might win more. Even after the first day he seemed mentally to be in a great place, now he has proved it physically as well.
I don't follow cycling very much, so have no idea of his form. But to see Philipsen giving it full gas and making no impression of Cav was incredible.

On the last Netflix doc Philipsen said Cav did not have the legs anymore, but had the craft. It appears he still has both. I thought Cav might get a heroic failure or two, but watching this I think you're right and he'll be a danger on more stages.
I was wondering after the interviews whether he would just enjoy riding the rest of the tour (his last, almost certainly) having got the monkey off his back. But he seems to have the legs on everyone, so I wouldn't be surprised if he goes for more stage wins. I guess we'll find out later this afternoon as it's another flat stage today.
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S/Lt_Phillips wrote: Thu Jul 04, 2024 9:13 am
weegie01 wrote: Thu Jul 04, 2024 8:37 am
Blackmac wrote: Thu Jul 04, 2024 7:54 am I don't think Cav's finished for this tour. I reckon he might win more. Even after the first day he seemed mentally to be in a great place, now he has proved it physically as well.
I don't follow cycling very much, so have no idea of his form. But to see Philipsen giving it full gas and making no impression of Cav was incredible.

On the last Netflix doc Philipsen said Cav did not have the legs anymore, but had the craft. It appears he still has both. I thought Cav might get a heroic failure or two, but watching this I think you're right and he'll be a danger on more stages.
I was wondering after the interviews whether he would just enjoy riding the rest of the tour (his last, almost certainly) having got the monkey off his back. But he seems to have the legs on everyone, so I wouldn't be surprised if he goes for more stage wins. I guess we'll find out later this afternoon as it's another flat stage today.
I'm sure he will, but I really want him to complete the tour and have a last sprint down the Champs d'Eylesee.
And are there two g’s in Bugger Off?
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Biffer wrote: Thu Jul 04, 2024 9:16 am
S/Lt_Phillips wrote: Thu Jul 04, 2024 9:13 am
weegie01 wrote: Thu Jul 04, 2024 8:37 am

I don't follow cycling very much, so have no idea of his form. But to see Philipsen giving it full gas and making no impression of Cav was incredible.

On the last Netflix doc Philipsen said Cav did not have the legs anymore, but had the craft. It appears he still has both. I thought Cav might get a heroic failure or two, but watching this I think you're right and he'll be a danger on more stages.
I was wondering after the interviews whether he would just enjoy riding the rest of the tour (his last, almost certainly) having got the monkey off his back. But he seems to have the legs on everyone, so I wouldn't be surprised if he goes for more stage wins. I guess we'll find out later this afternoon as it's another flat stage today.
I'm sure he will, but I really want him to complete the tour and have a last sprint down the Champs d'Eylesee.
Unfortunately not. This years tour finishes in Nice due to the Olympic Games in Paris. But I hope he gives a crack!
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SaintK wrote: Thu Jul 04, 2024 9:21 am
Biffer wrote: Thu Jul 04, 2024 9:16 am
S/Lt_Phillips wrote: Thu Jul 04, 2024 9:13 am

I was wondering after the interviews whether he would just enjoy riding the rest of the tour (his last, almost certainly) having got the monkey off his back. But he seems to have the legs on everyone, so I wouldn't be surprised if he goes for more stage wins. I guess we'll find out later this afternoon as it's another flat stage today.
I'm sure he will, but I really want him to complete the tour and have a last sprint down the Champs d'Eylesee.
Unfortunately not. This years tour finishes in Nice due to the Olympic Games in Paris. But I hope he gives a crack!
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Betfair have Cav at 5.5 for today. Worth a punt that given how strong he looked yesterday :thumbup:
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Slick wrote: Wed Jul 03, 2024 8:30 pm
Stranger wrote: Wed Jul 03, 2024 5:38 pm The finish line was just outside of my office today , so I had the privilege of seeing the end of this stage, I was on the 350M line, Christ those guys are fast. I also made it to the podium in time to see Cav :smile: :smile: :smile:
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Stranger wrote: Thu Jul 04, 2024 10:34 am
Slick wrote: Wed Jul 03, 2024 8:30 pm
Stranger wrote: Wed Jul 03, 2024 5:38 pm The finish line was just outside of my office today , so I had the privilege of seeing the end of this stage, I was on the 350M line, Christ those guys are fast. I also made it to the podium in time to see Cav :smile: :smile: :smile:
Do you work for the International Boules Federation
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We moved here 13 years ago and have no regrets at all. The kids were already adults with their own families.
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The gravel stage was epic. They should have more of them.
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yermum wrote: Mon Jul 08, 2024 8:29 pm The gravel stage was epic. They should have more of them.
I agree, but I think all the team lead riders disagree :grin:

The potential winners of the TdF these days are all Grand Tour specialists, & not keen on stages that are more at home in the Classics.
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