The one and only UK 2024 election thread - July 4

[SaintK]

They don't endorse him at all, they say that he'll win and they'll hold him to account.

Poor Keir, all those meetings with Rupert to kiss the ring and the best he gets is you'll win, we're going to criticise you every single day.

This on the second line:


Of all of The Sun's lies this is the most outrageous.

Yes, I know it what it says, I read it.

But, by dragging his party back to the centre ground of British politics for the first time since Tony Blair was in No10, Sir Keir has won the right to take charge.
We will hold Labour to account, without fear or favour.
But we wish them every success.

He has won the right to take charge as he'll win the election. The Sun's "endorsement" talked most positively about Farage and Reform, like some Tory policies and none of Labours.

Not an endorsement in any sense other than purely a we want to say we always pick the winners and our readers are most going to vote labour (as is the rest of the country) and prepare to be savaged when you're in government by us.

I know I read it

[Uncle fester]

Excited for tomorrow guys?

[Gumboot]

Let's hope the toxic Tories get obliterated.

Carn Brits, give 'em a proper kicking!

[fishfoodie]

Let's hope the toxic Tories get obliterated.

Carn Brits, give 'em a proper kicking!

I think part one is done & dusted, what matters is part two, that the, "One Nation", Tories get control over their Party, & get to be a real opposition, & aren't just some puppet for Putin, or the 'mericam Taliban, that's what matters !

[Enzedder]

Looks like some people are about to learn that a polly is a polly, no matter what the colour of their gib. Good luck with your new overlords my Pommie mates.

[Niegs]

[TheNatalShark]

Let's get down to business

[lemonhead]

Let's hope the toxic Tories get obliterated.

Carn Brits, give 'em a proper kicking!

I think part one is done & dusted, what matters is part two, that the, "One Nation", Tories get control over their Party, & get to be a real opposition, & aren't just some puppet for Putin, or the 'mericam Taliban, that's what matters !

Would absolutely love if this happened, just struggling to see how. Too much crazy in the air.

Get asparagus back on the statute books.

[_Os_]

Let's hope the toxic Tories get obliterated.

Carn Brits, give 'em a proper kicking!

I think part one is done & dusted, what matters is part two, that the, "One Nation", Tories get control over their Party, & get to be a real opposition, & aren't just some puppet for Putin, or the 'mericam Taliban, that's what matters !

Labour majority is locked in, would be the biggest upset ever if that didn't happen.

This election is about how big the Tory wipe out is, if Frog Face is elected, and how well the Lib Dems do. There's a non-zero chance it's a once in a century election where one of the big two goes down and is replaced, still an outside chance, but it's there.

The Tory election campaign was the worst I've ever seen, it was incoherent by the end. Literally didn't understand what they were going on about in the final week, which is the most important time in any election. Something about Starmer not working on Friday evenings??? That'll get the voters out!

[mat the expat]

Would be very different as young people generally are the ones with low turnout and generally don't vote Tory.

If Starmer and Labour introduce a mandatory voting law, the Tories are comeback gets even harder.

Young people are not dumb - they know they are effectively disenfranchised

Not completely, Brexit wouldn't have happened if youth voting was mandatory - for example. Cameron probably doesn't win a majority in 2015 either.

That's my point. You seem to be confused

[dpedin]

Let's hope the toxic Tories get obliterated.

Carn Brits, give 'em a proper kicking!

I think part one is done & dusted, what matters is part two, that the, "One Nation", Tories get control over their Party, & get to be a real opposition, & aren't just some puppet for Putin, or the 'mericam Taliban, that's what matters !

Labour majority is locked in, would be the biggest upset ever if that didn't happen.

This election is about how big the Tory wipe out is, if Frog Face is elected, and how well the Lib Dems do. There's a non-zero chance it's a once in a century election where one of the big two goes down and is replaced, still an outside chance, but it's there.

The Tory election campaign was the worst I've ever seen, it was incoherent by the end. Literally didn't understand what they were going on about in the final week, which is the most important time in any election. Something about Starmer not working on Friday evenings??? That'll get the voters out!

Tories are toast, well burnt and inedible toast on fire in the toaster! I have never seen such an inept and vicious campaign as the Tories have run, they have got the mood of the country completely wrong and many now laugh out loud at their stupid attempts to attack Starmer et al. Fraudulently using one of the most trusted men on TV in their ads - Martin Lewis - and then for him to go public and tell everyone the Tories were lying was just an enormous own goal. Stupid twats!

However the biggest issue is does the frog faced racist twat get elected into the HoC? Hopefully the more sensible voters in Clacton see sense and vote tactically to keep him out, even if it means Labour/LD and Greens voting Conservative! As soon as he loses his 8th attempt he will high tail it out of the UK faster than the Head Boy so he can cosy up to Trump. It would see the right wing populists defeated for at least a while in England and force the likes of Tice and his rich dodgy backers onto the back foot. If he gets in then it gives UKIP/Brexit/Reform Ltd a foothold and a rallying point in the HoC and the opportunity for the racist cunts to team up with the right wing of the Tories that survive, the NatC Party, and try and grow their base. This will be a feckin disaster.

[Oxbow]

Been and done my bit. Turnout so far: me, I was the only one in there.

[Paddington Bear]

Yep my polling station was empty when I went in an hour ago

[I like neeps]

I think part one is done & dusted, what matters is part two, that the, "One Nation", Tories get control over their Party, & get to be a real opposition, & aren't just some puppet for Putin, or the 'mericam Taliban, that's what matters !

Labour majority is locked in, would be the biggest upset ever if that didn't happen.

This election is about how big the Tory wipe out is, if Frog Face is elected, and how well the Lib Dems do. There's a non-zero chance it's a once in a century election where one of the big two goes down and is replaced, still an outside chance, but it's there.

The Tory election campaign was the worst I've ever seen, it was incoherent by the end. Literally didn't understand what they were going on about in the final week, which is the most important time in any election. Something about Starmer not working on Friday evenings??? That'll get the voters out!

Tories are toast, well burnt and inedible toast on fire in the toaster! I have never seen such an inept and vicious campaign as the Tories have run, they have got the mood of the country completely wrong and many now laugh out loud at their stupid attempts to attack Starmer et al. Fraudulently using one of the most trusted men on TV in their ads - Martin Lewis - and then for him to go public and tell everyone the Tories were lying was just an enormous own goal. Stupid twats!

However the biggest issue is does the frog faced racist twat get elected into the HoC? Hopefully the more sensible voters in Clacton see sense and vote tactically to keep him out, even if it means Labour/LD and Greens voting Conservative! As soon as he loses his 8th attempt he will high tail it out of the UK faster than the Head Boy so he can cosy up to Trump. It would see the right wing populists defeated for at least a while in England and force the likes of Tice and his rich dodgy backers onto the back foot. If he gets in then it gives UKIP/Brexit/Reform Ltd a foothold and a rallying point in the HoC and the opportunity for the racist cunts to team up with the right wing of the Tories that survive, the NatC Party, and try and grow their base. This will be a feckin disaster.

It wouldn't. Farage is the charismatic face of National Conservativism which as a movement is growing across every country in the West and our most vocal press support.

Farage is a figurehead of the movement which will outlive him.

[Raggs]

Vote done. Fingers crossed that the tories are kicked out, it's all going to be rather close here I fear.

[sturginho]

Yep my polling station was empty when I went in an hour ago

Very busy round here now, although sadly it's mostly tory voters round here

[Mahoney]

Think c.45% of the country would describe themselves as atheist or non religious. And a decent chunk of the other 55% would be non Christian.

Atheism (or being non Christian) as an attack line would probably struggle for traction

I think it would have been a thing until very recently.

It's literally the other way around. Blair carefully avoided talking about his faith, Farron was holed beneath the waterline for his. Clegg was a publicly acknowledged atheist and it certainly wasn't a negative in the "I agree with Nick" election.

[Slick]

Yep my polling station was empty when I went in an hour ago

Very busy round here now, although sadly it's mostly tory voters round here

Steady at mine

[Jock42]

Got 7.5 hours to decide which spunk trumpet to vote for or spoil my ballot.

[Raggs]

Got 7.5 hours to decide which spunk trumpet to vote for or spoil my ballot.

Go tactical?

[SaintK]

Got 7.5 hours to decide which spunk trumpet to vote for or spoil my ballot.

[Jock42]

Got 7.5 hours to decide which spunk trumpet to vote for or spoil my ballot.

Go tactical?

That's one of the aforementioned spunk trumpets.

[shaggy]

I think part one is done & dusted, what matters is part two, that the, "One Nation", Tories get control over their Party, & get to be a real opposition, & aren't just some puppet for Putin, or the 'mericam Taliban, that's what matters !

Labour majority is locked in, would be the biggest upset ever if that didn't happen.

This election is about how big the Tory wipe out is, if Frog Face is elected, and how well the Lib Dems do. There's a non-zero chance it's a once in a century election where one of the big two goes down and is replaced, still an outside chance, but it's there.

The Tory election campaign was the worst I've ever seen, it was incoherent by the end. Literally didn't understand what they were going on about in the final week, which is the most important time in any election. Something about Starmer not working on Friday evenings??? That'll get the voters out!

Tories are toast, well burnt and inedible toast on fire in the toaster! I have never seen such an inept and vicious campaign as the Tories have run, they have got the mood of the country completely wrong and many now laugh out loud at their stupid attempts to attack Starmer et al. Fraudulently using one of the most trusted men on TV in their ads - Martin Lewis - and then for him to go public and tell everyone the Tories were lying was just an enormous own goal. Stupid twats!

However the biggest issue is does the frog faced racist twat get elected into the HoC? Hopefully the more sensible voters in Clacton see sense and vote tactically to keep him out, even if it means Labour/LD and Greens voting Conservative! As soon as he loses his 8th attempt he will high tail it out of the UK faster than the Head Boy so he can cosy up to Trump. It would see the right wing populists defeated for at least a while in England and force the likes of Tice and his rich dodgy backers onto the back foot. If he gets in then it gives UKIP/Brexit/Reform Ltd a foothold and a rallying point in the HoC and the opportunity for the racist cunts to team up with the right wing of the Tories that survive, the NatC Party, and try and grow their base. This will be a feckin disaster.

I thought you were for PR voting?

[Raggs]

Got 7.5 hours to decide which spunk trumpet to vote for or spoil my ballot.

Go tactical?

That's one of the aforementioned spunk trumpets.

Well it would be, but if it's not a tory or reform spunk trumpet, then it may be a little less spunky or trumpety.

[tabascoboy]

Let's play

[SaintK]

Let's play

I reckon about half of those will be gone.
Unfortunately the 2 Reform candidates are likely to win their seats

[Sinkers]

Somebody educate me?
Is there anyone in that pic who’s not considered a complete dickhead? Any that still have a reasonably intact reputation?

[Sandstorm]

Somebody educate me?
Is there anyone in that pic who’s not considered a complete dickhead? Any that still have a reasonably intact reputation?

Victoria Atkins seems a decent sort. The rest.....

[Lobby]

Let's play

I reckon about half of those will be gone.
Unfortunately the 2 Reform candidates are likely to win their seats

Not sure about the rest, but Andrea Loathsome isn't standing for re-election so is already gone.

Just got back from casting my vote. Despite this being the middle of the day, there was a small queue at the Polling Station and I was told there had been a steady stream of voters since the polls opened. The staff were expecting the busiest period to be this evening when people are returning from work, and then again after they've had their dinners.

I'm in Ian Duncan Smith's constituency and am hoping that the former Labour (and now independent) candidate doesn't split the anti-Tory vote and allow IDS to sneak back in to a seat he should be losing.

[Paddington Bear]

Interestingly, Labour’s vote has dropped quite dramatically during this campaign. May largely be Lib Dem tactical stuff, but instructive as to how little enthusiasm there is for the party about to win a thumping majority

[JM2K6]

Interestingly, Labour’s vote has dropped quite dramatically during this campaign. May largely be Lib Dem tactical stuff, but instructive as to how little enthusiasm there is for the party about to win a thumping majority

It's all relative surely. I'm not surprised that the one time the BBC et al feel honour bound to give the smaller parties some air time it makes a difference. Labour are still polling at incredible levels

[SaintK]

Somebody educate me?
Is there anyone in that pic who’s not considered a complete dickhead? Any that still have a reasonably intact reputation?

Victoria Atkins seems a decent sort. The rest.....

Hmmmm! Nah! She's as bad as the rest of them and promoted wayyyyyyyy above her ability.

[C T]

Interestingly, Labour’s vote has dropped quite dramatically during this campaign. May largely be Lib Dem tactical stuff, but instructive as to how little enthusiasm there is for the party about to win a thumping majority

Labour down from about c45% to c40%, the Tories down from about c24% to about c22%.

Tories have had a bit of an uptick recently, to get to the c22%. Got to imagine largely down to Reform dropping their mask a bit.

Don't disagree though, no great love for Labour. The Tory party should be more depressed about this, they are in the middle of getting a walloping by a party that most people are largely unmoved by.

[sockwithaticket]

Voted about an hour ago, also found it interesting that there was a small queue mid-morning

The Tory teller outside got shirty with me for not wanting to give my electoral number or get into a debate with him as to why not.

For the record it's because I disagree with this.

By identifying electors who have not voted and relaying this information to the candidate or their supporters, tellers play an important role in elections and referendums. The candidate or their supporters may then contact the voters who have not yet been to vote during polling day and encourage them to vote

They've had a whole campaign to energise people and haranguing them on polling day, particularly when many may not have added themselves to the list yet simply because they won't be able to get around to voting until quite late, is out of order in my book.

[Paddington Bear]

Interestingly, Labour’s vote has dropped quite dramatically during this campaign. May largely be Lib Dem tactical stuff, but instructive as to how little enthusiasm there is for the party about to win a thumping majority

It's all relative surely. I'm not surprised that the one time the BBC et al feel honour bound to give the smaller parties some air time it makes a difference. Labour are still polling at incredible levels

They’re polling at levels roughly equivalent to where Corbyn got in 2017, and below the Tories in 2019

[robmatic]

Interestingly, Labour’s vote has dropped quite dramatically during this campaign. May largely be Lib Dem tactical stuff, but instructive as to how little enthusiasm there is for the party about to win a thumping majority

Maybe because Labour winning is a foregone conclusion so some anti-Tories have the luxury of voting for minor parties.

[Raggs]

Took screenshots of the major polls I could find for my region, and their predictions (all national based polling). All seemingly had Labour winning, Tories in 2nd, with one saying reform in second. All with green around 9-12%. There's been a big push for green, so interested to see if the polls have picked up on that.

Also noticed that Survation, in their latest poll (that was also huge, 42k+ people) had green in the west wight, with 20% of the vote, but the local push there seems to be for Labour that I can tell. Wonder if they've mucked up their location data or something. Going to be interesting to see just how it levels out.

[Paddington Bear]

Interestingly, Labour’s vote has dropped quite dramatically during this campaign. May largely be Lib Dem tactical stuff, but instructive as to how little enthusiasm there is for the party about to win a thumping majority

Maybe because Labour winning is a foregone conclusion so some anti-Tories have the luxury of voting for minor parties.

I’m sure that’s a factor in the Green vote. Still I think it is self evident that the levels of enthusiasm for Starmer’s policies and platform are startlingly low

[vball]

Due to boundary changes, not sure the "guessers" have it right.
2019 was SNP at 40% with 7% over Lib Dems.
2024 prediction is Lib Dems getting 80% and SNP 17%. Hope it is true but doubt it.

[fishfoodie]

The final Survation MRP poll shows one possible outcome of the LibDems taking over as the official opposition.

I've heard it mentioned a few times that it's possible that one of the reasons why Labours top level numbers have dropped off is because people are a lot more focused on voting tactically this time, & so moving their votes from Labour to other better placed candidates.

The MRP polls also show a LOT of seats that are on a knife edge, so there could be re-counts aplenty, & this is why the seat predictions for the Tories are all over the place.