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Big D wrote: Thu Oct 31, 2024 3:35 pm
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C T wrote: Thu Oct 31, 2024 2:09 pm

Does this mean Price is still next scrum half in line? Not seen much of White lately I admit, but I was hoping Horne/Dobbie may get a look in.

I don't know what the thinking is, but we don't see how they train or know what Toonie has in mind. I think Jordan has been in much better form than Hastings for example, but Townsend won't know him as well as AH and it's a big call to start someone at ten on their debut
Can Jordan start without a reliable kicker on the pitch?



Yeah, I was weighing up the options in my head and I think Horne might be sitting this out due to his kicking from hand, but if he's not there to kick goals then having Hastings start is the obvious option.

Having said that, I think we don't have the impression of Jordan being a prodigious goal kicker because Glasgow so often go to the corner rather than taking the three.
However, as I said, it's a big ask to start at fly half on your debut and it's even more so to be taking the pots at goal too, but I think Jordan is a good kicker.
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Tichtheid wrote: Thu Oct 31, 2024 5:33 pm
Big D wrote: Thu Oct 31, 2024 3:35 pm
Tichtheid wrote: Thu Oct 31, 2024 2:17 pm


I don't know what the thinking is, but we don't see how they train or know what Toonie has in mind. I think Jordan has been in much better form than Hastings for example, but Townsend won't know him as well as AH and it's a big call to start someone at ten on their debut
Can Jordan start without a reliable kicker on the pitch?



Yeah, I was weighing up the options in my head and I think Horne might be sitting this out due to his kicking from hand, but if he's not there to kick goals then having Hastings start is the obvious option.

Having said that, I think we don't have the impression of Jordan being a prodigious goal kicker because Glasgow so often go to the corner rather than taking the three.
However, as I said, it's a big ask to start at fly half on your debut and it's even more so to be taking the pots at goal too, but I think Jordan is a good kicker.
Aye, I really don't know either way to be honest but if he is going to be an international 10 he needs to be able to kick from the tee somewhat reliably.
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Big D wrote: Thu Oct 31, 2024 7:22 pm
Tichtheid wrote: Thu Oct 31, 2024 5:33 pm
Big D wrote: Thu Oct 31, 2024 3:35 pm

Can Jordan start without a reliable kicker on the pitch?



Yeah, I was weighing up the options in my head and I think Horne might be sitting this out due to his kicking from hand, but if he's not there to kick goals then having Hastings start is the obvious option.

Having said that, I think we don't have the impression of Jordan being a prodigious goal kicker because Glasgow so often go to the corner rather than taking the three.
However, as I said, it's a big ask to start at fly half on your debut and it's even more so to be taking the pots at goal too, but I think Jordan is a good kicker.
Aye, I really don't know either way to be honest but if he is going to be an international 10 he needs to be able to kick from the tee somewhat reliably.
Jordan's kicking off the tee is fine , I think his conversion rate is around 80% so far this season , just a baw hair behind Hastings who is just over 80, it was his kicking from hand that was previously more problematic , but this season it has improved , and is much better that Hastings
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Just moved to Oxford and wondered if there were any Bite members in the vicinity, looking for some people to commiserate with about Edinburgh, Marvel at and celebrate the Weegies, and wonder when hope becomes expectation with Scotland.

Do you know where the games are shown publicly?, or would like to maybe venture to nearby matched if any of the Scottish teams are passing by, Bath, Bristol etc.

Is there anybody out there?
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Tichtheid wrote: Thu Oct 31, 2024 5:33 pm
Big D wrote: Thu Oct 31, 2024 3:35 pm
Tichtheid wrote: Thu Oct 31, 2024 2:17 pm


I don't know what the thinking is, but we don't see how they train or know what Toonie has in mind. I think Jordan has been in much better form than Hastings for example, but Townsend won't know him as well as AH and it's a big call to start someone at ten on their debut
Can Jordan start without a reliable kicker on the pitch?



Yeah, I was weighing up the options in my head and I think Horne might be sitting this out due to his kicking from hand, but if he's not there to kick goals then having Hastings start is the obvious option.

Having said that, I think we don't have the impression of Jordan being a prodigious goal kicker because Glasgow so often go to the corner rather than taking the three.
However, as I said, it's a big ask to start at fly half on your debut and it's even more so to be taking the pots at goal too, but I think Jordan is a good kicker.
I think Jordan's kicking at goal has improved a lot from what I have seen of it recently - it was not what you want from a professional fly half when he started at Glasgow - but I reckon the evidence of it being good enough for international rugby would be if he was trusted more at his club. Yes, Glasgow don't go for three points much but they tend to choose Horne to take them when they do.
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The Party Line wrote: Thu Oct 31, 2024 10:03 pm Friends!

Just moved to Oxford and wondered if there were any Bite members in the vicinity, looking for some people to commiserate with about Edinburgh, Marvel at and celebrate the Weegies, and wonder when hope becomes expectation with Scotland.

Do you know where the games are shown publicly?, or would like to maybe venture to nearby matched if any of the Scottish teams are passing by, Bath, Bristol etc.

Is there anybody out there?
I live in Oxford too.

Not many places to show Scottish rugby that isn't the six nations. The best bet is probably Oxford Retreat in town for that.

Won't get premier sports anywhere except O'Neils and you'd have to get lucky for them to actually show it so Edinburgh and Glasgow matches usually have to be watched at home.
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robmatic wrote: Fri Nov 01, 2024 3:40 am
Tichtheid wrote: Thu Oct 31, 2024 5:33 pm
Big D wrote: Thu Oct 31, 2024 3:35 pm

Can Jordan start without a reliable kicker on the pitch?



Yeah, I was weighing up the options in my head and I think Horne might be sitting this out due to his kicking from hand, but if he's not there to kick goals then having Hastings start is the obvious option.

Having said that, I think we don't have the impression of Jordan being a prodigious goal kicker because Glasgow so often go to the corner rather than taking the three.
However, as I said, it's a big ask to start at fly half on your debut and it's even more so to be taking the pots at goal too, but I think Jordan is a good kicker.
I think Jordan's kicking at goal has improved a lot from what I have seen of it recently - it was not what you want from a professional fly half when he started at Glasgow - but I reckon the evidence of it being good enough for international rugby would be if he was trusted more at his club. Yes, Glasgow don't go for three points much but they tend to choose Horne to take them when they do.
Not sure I agree with that. If the stats above are correct and Horne is significantly better than the pair of them then you'd have him kicking whenever he's on the field. If there's only a couple of percent difference between Jordan and Hastings I don't think we can say it's not good enough for int rugby if Hastings is starting.
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Thanks keeps, it is pretty much as I thought but always best to ask.
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The Party Line wrote: Fri Nov 01, 2024 8:59 pm Thanks keeps, it is pretty much as I thought but always best to ask.
But I'd be happy to watch an international with you. I think if you're going to games locally it's a bit easier to get to Leicester and Saints than Bristol/Bath.
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Such a shame didn't beat NZ when they played the dirt trackers those years ago.

Can only feel they'll have it sorted by the next time they are.at Myrrayfield.
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Not convinced that was actually a yellow, but if it was it was a penalty try
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Schoey's blocking there
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Slick wrote: Sat Nov 02, 2024 5:47 pm Not convinced that was actually a yellow, but if it was it was a penalty try
Yeah, harsh. I actually thought he had a genuine chance of catching it.
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Tichtheid wrote: Sat Nov 02, 2024 5:50 pm Schoey's blocking there
Yep, and I hate the fact that so few of the Murrayfield crowd know what is going on, that they boo the decision.
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Blackmac wrote: Sat Nov 02, 2024 5:53 pm
Tichtheid wrote: Sat Nov 02, 2024 5:50 pm Schoey's blocking there
Yep, and I hate the fact that so few of the Murrayfield crowd know what is going on, that they boo the decision.

It's the loudest they've been.

Shocking lack of atmosphere
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ooh, that was nice
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Tichtheid wrote: Sat Nov 02, 2024 5:58 pm
Blackmac wrote: Sat Nov 02, 2024 5:53 pm
Tichtheid wrote: Sat Nov 02, 2024 5:50 pm Schoey's blocking there
Yep, and I hate the fact that so few of the Murrayfield crowd know what is going on, that they boo the decision.

It's the loudest they've been.

Shocking lack of atmosphere
I really can't bear the experience anymore. Full of people only there for instagram likes, with a total disregard for those that actually want to watch the game.
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Worlds worst, but most efficient grubber kick.
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That’s was great skill

We are basically the Harlem Globetrotters of rugby
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That puts Graham on 26 tries, one behind Hogg and two behind Duhan

Oh Fiji, this is a fair watch from them
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Duhan was a mile offside there

I hate this 2 tier reffing even when it’s to our advantage- too many years of being on the other end of it
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Is the Fijian skipper wearing a different jersey to the rest?
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TheNatalShark wrote: Sat Nov 02, 2024 4:48 pm Such a shame didn't beat NZ when they played the dirt trackers those years ago.

Can only feel they'll have it sorted by the next time they are.at Myrrayfield.
We almost never get a crack at the ABs when they look beatable.
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Rowe won't want to watch that back
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That's an annoying penalty to have when your hooker is in the bin
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Tichtheid wrote: Sat Nov 02, 2024 6:22 pm That's an annoying penalty to have when your hooker is in the bin
Ahh! Good point. I retract my shouting at the telly
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Ouch!

Kyle had better check all his bones are in the right place
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Not been the best 40min really.
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Big D wrote: Sat Nov 02, 2024 6:28 pm Not been the best 40min really.
I don’t know why we ever expect different
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This is so typically Scottish.
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Slick wrote: Sat Nov 02, 2024 6:30 pm
Big D wrote: Sat Nov 02, 2024 6:28 pm Not been the best 40min really.
I don’t know why we ever expect different
We're playing a mid table super rugby side and relying on them having 14 to do any damage.
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Big D wrote: Sat Nov 02, 2024 6:31 pm
Slick wrote: Sat Nov 02, 2024 6:30 pm
Big D wrote: Sat Nov 02, 2024 6:28 pm Not been the best 40min really.
I don’t know why we ever expect different
We're playing a mid table super rugby side and relying on them having 14 to do any damage.
We got a bit cocky I reckon and then got rattled
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Slick wrote: Sat Nov 02, 2024 6:39 pm
Big D wrote: Sat Nov 02, 2024 6:31 pm
Slick wrote: Sat Nov 02, 2024 6:30 pm

I don’t know why we ever expect different
We're playing a mid table super rugby side and relying on them having 14 to do any damage.
We got a bit cocky I reckon and then got rattled
I’m not able to watch right now as in the car. Beattie and English slating us on the BBC. Beattie in particular saying that Ireland or the ABs would have made this a 60-point game by now. Well, maybe, but to be fair, the Fijian resurgence has also been with 15 v 14.
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When will Price stop kicking the bloody ball away the second we get possession.
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Sadly I think it’s time to thank Price for his excellent service, shake his hand then hook him
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Ashman needs the Shepherd's crook right now
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Well that was brilliant from Fiji
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I think I’d almost take losing a few games if we dropped persistent penalty offenders, kills us every fucking time
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Jesus, Murrayfield is absolutely dead until Scotland score.

Nice finish by Graham.
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Tom Jordan having a fantastic debut
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