Wales vs Springboks
Not Van Staden but more likely Roos. If he can't find his 2022 form again, Hannekom will probably be taking his spot for the foreseeable future.bok_viking wrote: ↑Tue Nov 19, 2024 7:41 pm Just glad to see Hanekom at last up for his first cap, long overdue. I can see him becoming more regular from next season now that he is part of the squad as he can cover lock, flanker and 8th man. Unfortunately I think it is time to put Eskom out to pasture
He really hasn't impressed in any of his 6 Bok outings to date and was also a bit meh for the Stormers in 2023 and 2024.
He gets a lot of hate, but to me he just does all the dirty work and many people are missing his contributions.
Nothing flash, no big plays. Just grinds, does the work and clocks out for the day.
Sometimes you need somebody to do that so that Kolisi or PSdT can play a little on the outside edges.
I’m with you. Van Staden shines at club level, but doesn’t make the final step up to Test star.
I suspect Costelow is rated by a lot of South Africans. He's been mentioned as a standout Welsh player in SA preview podcasts by rugby journalists I listen to. Rio Dyer is also rated I suspect, he's the standout Dragons back.
The main thing that makes us rate a player is if they've ever done anything against our teams. When our sides play Scarlets he's in the middle of a lot of stuff and converting his kicks. We're also not going to care if no one else is rating a player, because SA players we heavily rate often don't get recognition outside SA.
But the problem Costelow and a lot of this Welsh team has, is shallow experience. This is where doing better at URC level and playing big knockout games would've helped. They look more like raw URC talent than test players at the moment. Doesn't mean they're actually bad players though.
Rassie rates Bulls backrows, not Stomps.
Elrigh Louw is rated above Roos. Hanekom is rated above Dixon. Van Staden rated above every Stomp backrow.
Looks about right to me, other than maybe Roos comes back in, or Rassie thinks he's a doos and he never comes back in.
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Rassie is waiting for Fourie to return
Gatland the fall guy for Wales:
https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2024/ ... elsh-rugby
It is a big mountain to climb, whoevers in charge
https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2024/ ... elsh-rugby
It is a big mountain to climb, whoevers in charge
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Can Wales select outside their clubs?
Costellow has been appalling for Wales and he has 17 caps ffs. He is utterly out of his depth and barely semi pro level._Os_ wrote: ↑Fri Nov 22, 2024 11:52 amI suspect Costelow is rated by a lot of South Africans. He's been mentioned as a standout Welsh player in SA preview podcasts by rugby journalists I listen to. Rio Dyer is also rated I suspect, he's the standout Dragons back.
The main thing that makes us rate a player is if they've ever done anything against our teams. When our sides play Scarlets he's in the middle of a lot of stuff and converting his kicks. We're also not going to care if no one else is rating a player, because SA players we heavily rate often don't get recognition outside SA.
But the problem Costelow and a lot of this Welsh team has, is shallow experience. This is where doing better at URC level and playing big knockout games would've helped. They look more like raw URC talent than test players at the moment. Doesn't mean they're actually bad players though.
Guessing he's played mostly from the bench in under performing teams. Brendan Nel one of the better SA rugby journos name checked him.C69 wrote: ↑Fri Nov 22, 2024 10:04 pmCostellow has been appalling for Wales and he has 17 caps ffs. He is utterly out of his depth and barely semi pro level._Os_ wrote: ↑Fri Nov 22, 2024 11:52 amI suspect Costelow is rated by a lot of South Africans. He's been mentioned as a standout Welsh player in SA preview podcasts by rugby journalists I listen to. Rio Dyer is also rated I suspect, he's the standout Dragons back.
The main thing that makes us rate a player is if they've ever done anything against our teams. When our sides play Scarlets he's in the middle of a lot of stuff and converting his kicks. We're also not going to care if no one else is rating a player, because SA players we heavily rate often don't get recognition outside SA.
But the problem Costelow and a lot of this Welsh team has, is shallow experience. This is where doing better at URC level and playing big knockout games would've helped. They look more like raw URC talent than test players at the moment. Doesn't mean they're actually bad players though.
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I feel like that has to be checked just because it's so unusual to see a second row taking a line like that even though, ostensibly, there's nothing wrong with it.
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This is men against boys, Wales quite genuinely look like a tier 2 side
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When have you ever seen second rows successively run in open field tries?
Ominous start. Think we all knew Wales were on for a pasting, but it's already looking like SA vs. clock RFC.
Ominous start. Think we all knew Wales were on for a pasting, but it's already looking like SA vs. clock RFC.
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Half them look like age group players. The lad that's just come on for Costellow could be in the U18s and I wouldn't be surprised.Paddington Bear wrote: ↑Sat Nov 23, 2024 5:51 pm This is men against boys, Wales quite genuinely look like a tier 2 side
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There’s a good chance Gats ruins them for their careers sending them out against the Boks like thissockwithaticket wrote: ↑Sat Nov 23, 2024 5:52 pmHalf them look like age group players. The lad that's just come on for Costellow could be in the U18s and I wouldn't be surprised.Paddington Bear wrote: ↑Sat Nov 23, 2024 5:51 pm This is men against boys, Wales quite genuinely look like a tier 2 side
Old men forget: yet all shall be forgot, But he'll remember with advantages, What feats he did that day
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This is going to get horrific for Wales.
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That's a really good bit of defending over the line from the Welsh 15.
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Love watching Gatland's reputation collapse.
I'm genuinely impressed with them that they haven't conceded another 2 tries. They are getting an absolute battering, but not sure many other teams would be matching the Boks in this form.
Ian Madigan for Ireland.
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How is the ref not getting these tackles in the air right, right in front of him.
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This is a training run, what form they’re in is hard to tell
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Yeah reckon a knock on or forward pass (or both) there
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At what point is a dominant scrum a safety issue?
It's Dickson, he's shite. His elevation to this level is an absolute mystery.TheNatalShark wrote: ↑Sat Nov 23, 2024 6:19 pm How is the ref not getting these tackles in the air right, right in front of him.
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