Scotland vs Wallabies

[SaintK]

Not a PR refugee, other than in witnessing its forum degenerate to the pointlessness.

And no longer resident in Glasgow, but always Glaswegian. I did work in Edinburgh for a few years, but always saw it essentially as missionary work.

Welcome

[Jethro]

Did the light at the end of the tunnel just dim a little for Wobs supporters

Well played Scotland, more committed and playing better rugby.

[Tichtheid]

Aye, we let Glaswegians come in out of the rain to Edinburgh for a while.

[clydecloggie]

Did the light at the end of the tunnel just dim a little for Wobs supporters

Well played Scotland, more committed and playing better rugby.

Nah, they're still miles better than in the RWC. Joe Schmidt doing well. Scotland at Murrayfield is not an easy place to win.

[Biffer]

Did the light at the end of the tunnel just dim a little for Wobs supporters

Well played Scotland, more committed and playing better rugby.

Nah, they're still miles better than in the RWC. Joe Schmidt doing well. Scotland at Murrayfield is not an easy place to win.

Nice being able to say that, isn’t it?

[clydecloggie]

Did the light at the end of the tunnel just dim a little for Wobs supporters

Well played Scotland, more committed and playing better rugby.

Nah, they're still miles better than in the RWC. Joe Schmidt doing well. Scotland at Murrayfield is not an easy place to win.

Nice being able to say that, isn’t it?

Makes for a nice change, but it's only still true for certain teams (fortunately including England these days). NZ, SA, Ireland and Italy don't seem to have too much trouble with it.

[Tichtheid]

Nah, they're still miles better than in the RWC. Joe Schmidt doing well. Scotland at Murrayfield is not an easy place to win.

Nice being able to say that, isn’t it?

Makes for a nice change, but it's only still true for certain teams (fortunately including England these days). NZ, SA, Ireland and Italy don't seem to have too much trouble with it.

Italy?

They beaten us twice in Edinburgh in the pro era - 2007 and 2015. Since 2015 we've won 13/14 home and away.

[Yr Alban]

Nice being able to say that, isn’t it?

Makes for a nice change, but it's only still true for certain teams (fortunately including England these days). NZ, SA, Ireland and Italy don't seem to have too much trouble with it.

Italy?

They beaten us twice in Edinburgh in the pro era - 2007 and 2015. Since 2015 we've won 13/14 home and away.

And 2007 was probably when our low period bottomed out, with Phil Godman throwing three interceptions in the first 20 mins. Or something like that - the passage of time has dulled the details but not the pain.

[Yr Alban]

Nice being able to say that, isn’t it?

Makes for a nice change, but it's only still true for certain teams (fortunately including England these days). NZ, SA, Ireland and Italy don't seem to have too much trouble with it.

Italy?

They beaten us twice in Edinburgh in the pro era - 2007 and 2015. Since 2015 we've won 13/14 home and away.

Also worth observing that neither NZ nor Ireland have had an easy time at Murrayfield in recent years. NZ have won by 8 pts in 2014, 5 pts in 2017 and 8 pts in 2022. Scotland beat Ireland in 2017, and lost by 9 in 2019, 3 in 2021 and 15 (the one slightly bigger win) in 2023. You have to go back to 2012 for NZ (22-51) and 2015 for Ireland (10-40) to find a match where we didn’t challenge them at all.

[Lobby]

Makes for a nice change, but it's only still true for certain teams (fortunately including England these days). NZ, SA, Ireland and Italy don't seem to have too much trouble with it.

Italy?

They beaten us twice in Edinburgh in the pro era - 2007 and 2015. Since 2015 we've won 13/14 home and away.

And 2007 was probably when our low period bottomed out, with Phil Godman throwing three interceptions in the first 20 mins. Or something like that - the passage of time has dulled the details but not the pain.

It was Chris Cusiter who threw the interceptions. Phil Godman had an 'ambitious' chip kick charged down. Together they gifted Italy 21 points in the first 10 minutes. I was going out that evening so didn't see it live, but can remember checking the score on my phone shortly after kick off and saw that Italy were leading 21 - 0 and just thought WTF!

[Biffer]

Italy?

They beaten us twice in Edinburgh in the pro era - 2007 and 2015. Since 2015 we've won 13/14 home and away.

And 2007 was probably when our low period bottomed out, with Phil Godman throwing three interceptions in the first 20 mins. Or something like that - the passage of time has dulled the details but not the pain.

It was Chris Cusiter who threw the interceptions. Phil Godman had an 'ambitious' chip kick charged down. Together they gifted Italy 21 points in the first 10 minutes. I was going out that evening so didn't see it live, but can remember checking the score on my phone shortly after kick off and saw that Italy were leading 21 - 0 and just thought WTF!

Me and my mate were late. Got to our seats at seven minutes gone, asked the bloke next to me if there was something wrong with the scoreboard.

[Tichtheid]

And 2007 was probably when our low period bottomed out, with Phil Godman throwing three interceptions in the first 20 mins. Or something like that - the passage of time has dulled the details but not the pain.

It was Chris Cusiter who threw the interceptions. Phil Godman had an 'ambitious' chip kick charged down. Together they gifted Italy 21 points in the first 10 minutes. I was going out that evening so didn't see it live, but can remember checking the score on my phone shortly after kick off and saw that Italy were leading 21 - 0 and just thought WTF!

Me and my mate were late. Got to our seats at seven minutes gone, asked the bloke next to me if there was something wrong with the scoreboard.

I was working, my Welsh mate kept texting "WTF?" type messages - not rubbing it in, genuine concern :-D

[Yr Alban]

Italy?

They beaten us twice in Edinburgh in the pro era - 2007 and 2015. Since 2015 we've won 13/14 home and away.

And 2007 was probably when our low period bottomed out, with Phil Godman throwing three interceptions in the first 20 mins. Or something like that - the passage of time has dulled the details but not the pain.

It was Chris Cusiter who threw the interceptions. Phil Godman had an 'ambitious' chip kick charged down. Together they gifted Italy 21 points in the first 10 minutes. I was going out that evening so didn't see it live, but can remember checking the score on my phone shortly after kick off and saw that Italy were leading 21 - 0 and just thought WTF!

Like I said, the memory is rusty. It was hands down the most bizarre game I’ve ever watched. What made it even weirder was that Cusiter was actually a genuinely good player - one of the few decent backs we had at the time. I’d say it was a freak result, but sadly we really were in a hole at the time.

[Jethro]

Makes for a nice change, but it's only still true for certain teams (fortunately including England these days). NZ, SA, Ireland and Italy don't seem to have too much trouble with it.

Italy?

They beaten us twice in Edinburgh in the pro era - 2007 and 2015. Since 2015 we've won 13/14 home and away.

Also worth observing that neither NZ nor Ireland have had an easy time at Murrayfield in recent years. NZ have won by 8 pts in 2014, 5 pts in 2017 and 8 pts in 2022. Scotland beat Ireland in 2017, and lost by 9 in 2019, 3 in 2021 and 15 (the one slightly bigger win) in 2023. You have to go back to 2012 for NZ (22-51) and 2015 for Ireland (10-40) to find a match where we didn’t challenge them at all.

Have a vague memory of a drawn test between NZ and Scotland, though when that happened escapes me ... 1983, thank you google.