Stop voting for fucking Tories

[I like neeps]

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/20 ... dApp_Other

Dear oh dear. Laura K caught red handed, she needs to be fired yesterday.

What am I missing? According to that article she made a mistake that would have undermined the integrity of the interview so pulled out. If she'd kept quiet and done it anyway then that would have been a story.

It would be if this was the first time her journalistic credibility was called into question when relating to her conduct when reporting on Boris Johnson. Sadly, his whole time at number10 she was essentially used by Johnson, Cummings et al as at best a useful idiot and at worst a spin doctor to tell obviously false stories. The Tory MP being punched by a labour activist in a Leeds hospital, the immediate defence of Cummings and his jaunt to Barnard Castle spring to mind but there's a lot of others. Fine of a PolEd of the Sun e.g..Harry Cole whose job it is to boost the Tories. Not so fine of the BBC PolEd whose job isn't to regurgitate the latest Number10 line.

(Also not sure is Johnson would agree to an actual interview, he's mostly dodged the media since he left politics. Suspect this was pre-agreed and someone in her team said so and this is backtracking).

[C69]

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/20 ... dApp_Other

Dear oh dear. Laura K caught red handed, she needs to be fired yesterday.

What am I missing? According to that article she made a mistake that would have undermined the integrity of the interview so pulled out. If she'd kept quiet and done it anyway then that would have been a story.

Really?
You do know of her history with Boris.
Shirley?

[Rhubarb & Custard]

I know a lot of people complain about LK, but she's hardly the only journo with a certain bias. Why Laura gets more complaints other than she's a she isn't clear

[weegie01]

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/20 ... dApp_Other

Dear oh dear. Laura K caught red handed, she needs to be fired yesterday.

What am I missing? According to that article she made a mistake that would have undermined the integrity of the interview so pulled out. If she'd kept quiet and done it anyway then that would have been a story.

Really?
You do know of her history with Boris.
Shirley?

I have no idea what you are talking about other than I am aware she has been accused of giving him an easy ride in interviews. Which is a long way from this.

[dpedin]

I know a lot of people complain about LK, but she's hardly the only journo with a certain bias. Why Laura gets more complaints other than she's a she isn't clear

That's not the reason mate! Many would like to see her replaced with the likes of Victoria Derbyshire or similar who are far better interviewers, unbiased and aren't stuck somewhere up the Blonde Bumblecunts are!

[Insane_Homer]

I know a lot of people complain about LK, but she's hardly the only journo with a certain bias. Why Laura gets more complaints other than she's a she isn't clear

Yup, deffo coz she's a wimmin

https://onlinejournalismblog.com/2019/0 ... l-linking/

[PCPhil]

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/20 ... dApp_Other

Dear oh dear. Laura K caught red handed, she needs to be fired yesterday.

What am I missing? According to that article she made a mistake that would have undermined the integrity of the interview so pulled out. If she'd kept quiet and done it anyway then that would have been a story.

Emailed notes to Bojo before an interview. Well could happen to anyone.
My view. Someone found she did it and she had to put out a statement. She's a rabid bojo fan girl.

[C69]

What am I missing? According to that article she made a mistake that would have undermined the integrity of the interview so pulled out. If she'd kept quiet and done it anyway then that would have been a story.

Really?
You do know of her history with Boris.
Shirley?

I have no idea what you are talking about other than I am aware she has been accused of giving him an easy ride in interviews. Which is a long way from this.

She has always been linked with him. Her special relationship landed her loads of insider info for years

[Slick]

Selected Cc instead of Bcc

The most plausible explanation

In the land of conspiracy theories maybe.

Even if you do not rate her as an interviewer suggesting she is actually corrupt is a different kettle of fish.

I agree with you. The most plausible explanation is that she accidently emailed Johnson and then felt she had to pull out.

[Sandstorm]

She has always been linked with him. Her special relationship landed her loads of insider info for years

And got her that prime Sunday morning news show on BBC. She's a Boris stooge.

[Paddington Bear]

I don’t think LK would have been dumb enough to have a paper trail direct from her to Boris, a notoriously untrustworthy man who sold people down the river to her on various occasions. Cock up is by far the most plausible outcome here.

As to her leanings, no doubt she leans right and is thus something of a rarity at the BBC. Clearly this has been exacerbated for her personally on account of all the death threats she received from the Momentum crowd because she failed to fawn on cue at their Magic Grandad.

[Rhubarb & Custard]

I know a lot of people complain about LK, but she's hardly the only journo with a certain bias. Why Laura gets more complaints other than she's a she isn't clear

That's not the reason mate! Many would like to see her replaced with the likes of Victoria Derbyshire or similar who are far better interviewers, unbiased and aren't stuck somewhere up the Blonde Bumblecunts are!

If there was one journalist and it was LK I'd understand more, but there's hardly a shortage of people doing interviews. Life seems too short to be getting upset that some people have views, though I say that noting Andrew Neil often went too far when at the BBC, mind even then it was amusing when Ben Shapiro accused him of being a lefty BBC journo.

Getting upset my LK seems a bit like getting upset about Nick Robinson, they're both okay at what they do, albeit no Mishal Husain, they both would seems to fall rather more into the (traditional) Tory camp on a personal basis. I certainly don't like the notion people can't hold these jobs because they don't hold opinions I always like, we should be getting irked in some instances, and then get the fuck over ourselves

[Hal Jordan]

The most plausible explanation

In the land of conspiracy theories maybe.

Even if you do not rate her as an interviewer suggesting she is actually corrupt is a different kettle of fish.

I agree with you. The most plausible explanation is that she accidently emailed Johnson and then felt she had to pull out.

Not a feeling Johnson has ever had, accidental or otherwise.

[sockwithaticket]

The most plausible explanation

In the land of conspiracy theories maybe.

Even if you do not rate her as an interviewer suggesting she is actually corrupt is a different kettle of fish.

I agree with you. The most plausible explanation is that she accidently emailed Johnson and then felt she had to pull out.

I don't find it credible tbh, but I'm hugely cynical in general. Seen a few journos on their socials stating it's highly unlikely anyone could do this by accident.

Not that the interview being cancelled is a bad thing. The absolute last thing we need is to give Alexander de Pfeffel Johnson anymore sodding air time.

[dpedin]

In the land of conspiracy theories maybe.

Even if you do not rate her as an interviewer suggesting she is actually corrupt is a different kettle of fish.

I agree with you. The most plausible explanation is that she accidently emailed Johnson and then felt she had to pull out.

I don't find it credible tbh, but I'm hugely cynical in general. Seen a few journos on their socials stating it's highly unlikely anyone could do this by accident.

Not that the interview being cancelled is a bad thing. The absolute last thing we need is to give Alexander de Pfeffel Johnson anymore sodding air time.

I suspect it was an accident but it sounds like she probably had him on an email group or similar and chose the wrong group or else attached info to an existing email trail or similar? Perhaps she has another Boris on her team and clicked on the wrong one???? It is hard to believe how an experienced and trained journalist could make such a simple mistake given how hard journalists strive to keep their contacts, sources, research etc confidential.

The whole episode is just more indicative of the 'cosy' relationship that she had developed with the Fat Blonde Slug and his No10 operation and probably explains why she never let on about the covid parties etc that she inevitably knew about but didn't report at the time. Once a journalist loses their credibility and trust then they are done as a journalist and I am afraid LK is done as a credible BBC journalist. I don't expect anything to happen for a few months and then she might be moved to a less upfront role or leave for an exciting opportunity with GBNews.

[SaintK]

Well at least the BBC will not now be giving any oxygen to the lying blonde slug's rewriting of the history of his tenures in City Hall and Downing St

[SaintK]

There is no irony meter or polygraph machine powerful enough to measure this.

Boris Johnson hits out at ‘greedy’ Keir Starmer over freebies
Keir Starmer’s decision to accept clothing freebies “looks greedy”, Boris Johnson, the former Tory PM has claimed. As Jamie Grierson reports, Johnson, who is doing interviews to promote his much-ridiculed memoir, seems to have forgotten his own record of freebie-harvesting on a lavish scale.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2 ... freebies

[tabascoboy]

Of the remaining 3, Cleverly looks to be the least worst choice...? What an abysmal trio though

BREAKING: Tom Tugenhadt is out of the race to be the next Conservative leader.

He picked up 20 votes in the latest round of voting - ending bottom of the table behind Kemi Badenoch in third, Robert Jenrick in second and James Cleverly in first with 39

[fishfoodie]

Of the remaining 3, Cleverly looks to be the least worst choice...? What an abysmal trio though

BREAKING: Tom Tugenhadt is out of the race to be the next Conservative leader.

He picked up 20 votes in the latest round of voting - ending bottom of the table behind Kemi Badenoch in third, Robert Jenrick in second and James Cleverly in first with 39

Bad Enoch is going to throw an epic shitfit when she gets eliminated, it'll be glorious

[lemonhead]

Of the remaining 3, Cleverly looks to be the least worst choice...? What an abysmal trio though

BREAKING: Tom Tugenhadt is out of the race to be the next Conservative leader.

He picked up 20 votes in the latest round of voting - ending bottom of the table behind Kemi Badenoch in third, Robert Jenrick in second and James Cleverly in first with 39

I mean, if anything he's probably pulled ahead by dint of...eh, astutely keeping his mouth shut. Or more so in relative terms while rivals talked themselves into trouble.

Clearly learning from Labour's bland grab.

[Lobby]

Of the remaining 3, Cleverly looks to be the least worst choice...? What an abysmal trio though

BREAKING: Tom Tugenhadt is out of the race to be the next Conservative leader.

He picked up 20 votes in the latest round of voting - ending bottom of the table behind Kemi Badenoch in third, Robert Jenrick in second and James Cleverly in first with 39

Bad Enoch is going to throw an epic shitfit when she gets eliminated, it'll be glorious

Surely she can't lose now that she has secured the endorsement of right wing scumbag Ron de Santis (I wonder how much that one cost her Tufton St backers?)

[inactionman]

Blimey. Cleverly is out.

Jenrick or Badenoch. What a choice.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/li ... atest-news

[tabascoboy]

Blimey. Cleverly is out.

Jenrick or Badenoch. What a choice.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/li ... atest-news

they deserve the leadership they get tbh

Kemi Badenoch and Robert Jenrick are the final two candidates to become the new Conservative Party leader, with James Cleverly eliminated from the contest

Badenoch got 42 votes from MPs; Jenrick 41, and Cleverly 37

[Slick]

Blimey. Cleverly is out.

Jenrick or Badenoch. What a choice.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/li ... atest-news

I'm not sure how someone goes from supporting Tugenhadt to Badenoch or Jenrick, but the whole party is a mystery at the moment.

[inactionman]

Blimey. Cleverly is out.

Jenrick or Badenoch. What a choice.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/li ... atest-news

I'm not sure how someone goes from supporting Tugenhadt to Badenoch or Jenrick, but the whole party is a mystery at the moment.

There's some suggestion of tactical voting that might have gone a bit south, but god only knows with that party at the minute.

[SaintK]

Looks like Cleverly's supporters were being too clever by far in switching votes yesterday to try and get rid of Badenoch.
If that is the choice for the Tories, then God help them

[inactionman]

Looks like Cleverly's supporters were being too clever by far in switching votes yesterday to try and get rid of Badenoch.
If that is the choice for the Tories, then God help them

I can't be the only person to find that very funny indeed.

[Sandstorm]

Looks like Cleverly's supporters were being too clever by far in switching votes yesterday to try and get rid of Badenoch.
If that is the choice for the Tories, then God help them

I can't be the only person to find that very funny indeed.

I'm loving it too

[Paddington Bear]

Objectively, this is very funny

[_Os_]

Cleverly was the obvious best candidate. Whatever his failings he comes across as a normal person, that's important because not being seen as nasty or weird is a solid base to build on.

Jenrick and Badenoch are terrible. Jenrick is a willing Manchurian candidate (not sure that's possible, but that's him), started out a standard one nation Tory type but realised the swivel eyed loony membership will not vote for that, he has become increasingly insane appealing to fundamentally unreasonable people, he may actually believe the stuff he says now. Badenoch cut from a similar cloth but went crazy earlier and faster, also sounds like she believes the Tufton street stuff more than Jenrick. Both are similar to Truss in their psycho levels of ambition and willingness to take up any extreme position in their quest to appeal to the membership, but Badenoch much more so in that even what she says is very Truss like ("government should serve the market"). Maybe the Tory party now just becomes more insane, the problem with unreasonable people is trying to be sensible and reason with them cannot rescue them.

Starmer must be one of the luckiest politicians to have ever lived.

[tabascoboy]

A former Tory minister tells me: “I don’t know when the death certificate for the Conservative Party will be issued. But it will be a private funeral with no wake afterwards.” More on
@BBCNewsnight
feed and on BBC Two 10.30pm

[Lobby]

Cleverly was the obvious best candidate. Whatever his failings he comes across as a normal person, that's important because not being seen as nasty or weird is a solid base to build on.

Jenrick and Badenoch are terrible. Jenrick is a willing Manchurian candidate (not sure that's possible, but that's him), started out a standard one nation Tory type but realised the swivel eyed loony membership will not vote for that, he has become increasingly insane appealing to fundamentally unreasonable people, he may actually believe the stuff he says now. Badenoch cut from a similar cloth but went crazy earlier and faster, also sounds like she believes the Tufton street stuff more than Jenrick. Both are similar to Truss in their psycho levels of ambition and willingness to take up any extreme position in their quest to appeal to the membership, but Badenoch much more so in that even what she says is very Truss like ("government should serve the market"). Maybe the Tory party now just becomes more insane, the problem with unreasonable people is trying to be sensible and reason with them cannot rescue them.

Starmer must be one of the luckiest politicians to have ever lived.

One Labour MP has apparently already asked if Labour need to declare the Tory leadership result as a gift

[Sandstorm]

Cleverly was the obvious best candidate. Whatever his failings he comes across as a normal person, that's important because not being seen as nasty or weird is a solid base to build on.

Jenrick and Badenoch are terrible. Jenrick is a willing Manchurian candidate (not sure that's possible, but that's him), started out a standard one nation Tory type but realised the swivel eyed loony membership will not vote for that, he has become increasingly insane appealing to fundamentally unreasonable people, he may actually believe the stuff he says now. Badenoch cut from a similar cloth but went crazy earlier and faster, also sounds like she believes the Tufton street stuff more than Jenrick. Both are similar to Truss in their psycho levels of ambition and willingness to take up any extreme position in their quest to appeal to the membership, but Badenoch much more so in that even what she says is very Truss like ("government should serve the market"). Maybe the Tory party now just becomes more insane, the problem with unreasonable people is trying to be sensible and reason with them cannot rescue them.

Starmer must be one of the luckiest politicians to have ever lived.

One Labour MP has apparently already asked if Labour need to declare the Tory leadership result as a gift

[Biffer]

Cleverlet : We need to be more normal

Tory members: No thankyou get out

[Raggs]

Supposedly a load voted for their second choice, on the thinking that cleverly was safe.

[_Os_]

Cleverly was the obvious best candidate. Whatever his failings he comes across as a normal person, that's important because not being seen as nasty or weird is a solid base to build on.

Jenrick and Badenoch are terrible. Jenrick is a willing Manchurian candidate (not sure that's possible, but that's him), started out a standard one nation Tory type but realised the swivel eyed loony membership will not vote for that, he has become increasingly insane appealing to fundamentally unreasonable people, he may actually believe the stuff he says now. Badenoch cut from a similar cloth but went crazy earlier and faster, also sounds like she believes the Tufton street stuff more than Jenrick. Both are similar to Truss in their psycho levels of ambition and willingness to take up any extreme position in their quest to appeal to the membership, but Badenoch much more so in that even what she says is very Truss like ("government should serve the market"). Maybe the Tory party now just becomes more insane, the problem with unreasonable people is trying to be sensible and reason with them cannot rescue them.

Starmer must be one of the luckiest politicians to have ever lived.

One Labour MP has apparently already asked if Labour need to declare the Tory leadership result as a gift

It really looked like they were going to avoid the 1980s Labour option by selecting Cleverly, then perhaps shrug off mortal wounds to return much sooner than they had any right to.

But this is quite mad now. Neither of these two are ever going to contest a GE as leader surely.

[_Os_]

On a related note, Badenoch is due to give evidence to the Horizon enquiry on 6th November.

She was Secretary of State for the Department of Business and Trade for a year or so during the time that compensation should have been looked at - when she was very busy instructing then PO Chair Staunton to drag his feet until after the election and then firing him anyway via sky news.

Seeing as she is never wrong, never apologises and never makes a mistake, I'll be interested to hear what the KCs make of her.

The final choice is made on the 2nd of November.

There's potential for the sane and rational members to select Badenoch, then 4 days later she's already sunk by connection to the post office scandal.

[Sandstorm]

On a related note, Badenoch is due to give evidence to the Horizon enquiry on 6th November.

She was Secretary of State for the Department of Business and Trade for a year or so during the time that compensation should have been looked at - when she was very busy instructing then PO Chair Staunton to drag his feet until after the election and then firing him anyway via sky news.

Seeing as she is never wrong, never apologises and never makes a mistake, I'll be interested to hear what the KCs make of her.

The final choice is made on the 2nd of November.

There's potential for the sane and rational members to select Badenoch, then 4 days later she's already sunk by connection to the post office scandal.

4 days. An even shorter term as Tory leader than even Truss!

[Lobby]

David Gauke, who left the Tory Party in 2019 in protest at Brexit, rejoined the Tories in July of this year in order to be able to vote for the next leader stating:

"If people like me – people who thought the party had taken a turn for the worse in embracing populism in 2019 and, in electing Johnson and Truss, choosing leaders unfit for the highest office – remained outside the party, nothing would change."

He has just tweeted to say "Well that was £39 that could’ve been better spent"

[I like neeps]

Badenoch is obviously a dreadful choice to lead a country. I'd point to the UK (Johnson), USA, Italy, Austria, the Netherlands, and others have all voted in dreadful choices to lead the country mostly due to the feeling of economic stagnation or regression...

A Tory leader who can pick up Reform votes is what endangers Labour the most.