Ireland v Oz?
- Guy Smiley
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ah, sure... I'm not blaming the ref. Australia had their chances and didn't capitalise, I've no issue with that. While we're at it, I've never made comment about refs favouring Ireland. I do make a habit of discussing ref calls or non calls at times though, as many of us do. if it suits you guys to rationalise that away as blaming the ref for the Wallabies loss then have at it. I've got no emotional bag to carry here.Uncle fester wrote: ↑Sat Nov 30, 2024 11:20 pmExcuse me?Guy Smiley wrote: ↑Sat Nov 30, 2024 7:43 pmNo-one's blaming the ref but it's fair to say he made a couple of very poor non decisions, the obvious one being a missed knock on that led to a try. The other one was the foot in touch missed.Uncle fester wrote: ↑Sat Nov 30, 2024 7:09 pm Was looking forward to reading the ref blaming here and ye did not disappoint.
As I mentioned after the knock on, where was the TMO? The game itself was frustrating with both teams poor overall despite some stand out individual efforts but resorting to accusations of ref blaming is a diversion from your own team's poor effort and signs of serious decline. They might have doid.
I've been quite open that we've been in slow decline since our usual peak in between world cups beating NZ in NZ.
All I see is folks screeching about the ref favouring Ireland game after game and it gets kind of old, especially when the pattern is related at club level.
Edit: derriz put in a bit of legwork and skewered you nicely.
- Uncle fester
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I don’t think anyone actually thinks refs favour Ireland. But it does happen game after game that Ireland push the boundaries, especially at breakdown and scrum, and it rarely gets picked up. When it does there is a noticeable difference in their effectivenessUncle fester wrote: ↑Sat Nov 30, 2024 11:20 pmExcuse me?Guy Smiley wrote: ↑Sat Nov 30, 2024 7:43 pmNo-one's blaming the ref but it's fair to say he made a couple of very poor non decisions, the obvious one being a missed knock on that led to a try. The other one was the foot in touch missed.Uncle fester wrote: ↑Sat Nov 30, 2024 7:09 pm Was looking forward to reading the ref blaming here and ye did not disappoint.
As I mentioned after the knock on, where was the TMO? The game itself was frustrating with both teams poor overall despite some stand out individual efforts but resorting to accusations of ref blaming is a diversion from your own team's poor effort and signs of serious decline. They might have doid.
I've been quite open that we've been in slow decline since our usual peak in between world cups beating NZ in NZ.
All I see is folks screeching about the ref favouring Ireland game after game and it gets kind of old, especially when the pattern is related at club level.
Edit: derriz put in a bit of legwork and skewered you nicely.
All the money you made will never buy back your soul
The rucks are a fucking mess across the game, with multiple players off their feet all the time. Are Ireland guilty of this - you betcha. Is everyone else as well? Absolutely!
It's not helped by poachers adopting a body position that would result in a ruck defender being pinged for sealing off, or defending teams being pinged for hands on the ground yet offensive players being allowed to defend a ruck on all fours!
The officials need to sort it the fuck out, but until they do, teams would be stupid to hamstring themselves by obeying interpretations of the ruck laws that don't exist in reality!
I fucking hate it, but it is what it is at the moment.
It's not helped by poachers adopting a body position that would result in a ruck defender being pinged for sealing off, or defending teams being pinged for hands on the ground yet offensive players being allowed to defend a ruck on all fours!
The officials need to sort it the fuck out, but until they do, teams would be stupid to hamstring themselves by obeying interpretations of the ruck laws that don't exist in reality!
I fucking hate it, but it is what it is at the moment.