The Official Scottish Rugby Thread

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Lost 24-7. Little bit disappointing.

Belatedly looked at the squad for this - it was pretty young with 20 of them 21 and younger and including one 16 year old (who didn't make the 23) and an 18 year old (Olly Blyth-Lafferty who started and scored). What did the Italy team look like? They were a defined u23 side rather than an emerging side like ours, although looking at the scorers they have a mix of 20 to 23 year olds.

Got to wonder if a few of the younger lads would have been better playing in the under 20’s match against Wales last week to help bolster that squad a bit. Seems like we weakened the under 20’s squad to play out together a development squad to play against an under 23’s team.

I know the results aren’t as important as the game-time it gets the lads, but the under 20’s are going into a 6N and building a squad for that should be priority!
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I liked the under20s squad, result doesn't matter and a lot of players were given an opportunity to put their hand up to be selected. Sounds like the six nations squad will be selected now to run out vs Wales this weekend.

[SomersetJock]

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Lost 24-7. Little bit disappointing.

Belatedly looked at the squad for this - it was pretty young with 20 of them 21 and younger and including one 16 year old (who didn't make the 23) and an 18 year old (Olly Blyth-Lafferty who started and scored). What did the Italy team look like? They were a defined u23 side rather than an emerging side like ours, although looking at the scorers they have a mix of 20 to 23 year olds.
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Got to wonder if a few of the younger lads would have been better playing in the under 20’s match against Wales last week to help bolster that squad a bit. Seems like we weakened the under 20’s squad to play out together a development squad to play against an under 23’s team.

I know the results aren’t as important as the game-time it gets the lads, but the under 20’s are going into a 6N and building a squad for that should be priority!
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I liked the under20s squad, result doesn't matter and a lot of players were given an opportunity to put their hand up to be selected. Sounds like the six nations squad will be selected now to run out vs Wales this weekend.
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Ah, I didn’t realise we had a game against them this weekend again. Saying that I didn’t realise we were playing them last week until I found out a couple of our RGC boys were in the Wales team.

[Biffer]

Both legs of the 1872 selling well. Face book saysore than 30k for Hampden, and Murrayfield has sold most of the lower bowl plus all of Upper east and a bug chunk of upper west.

My question here is - do Glasgow pay rent per game for Scotstoun? I know it'll be a whack more for Hampden, but 20k extra tickets must surely be at least half a million quid extra income for the SRU. And if Murrayfield sales don't take a hit, will they be brave enough to say each club keeps the extra income from its leg?

[I like neeps]

Both legs of the 1872 selling well. Face book saysore than 30k for Hampden, and Murrayfield has sold most of the lower bowl plus all of Upper east and a bug chunk of upper west.

My question here is - do Glasgow pay rent per game for Scotstoun? I know it'll be a whack more for Hampden, but 20k extra tickets must surely be at least half a million quid extra income for the SRU. And if Murrayfield sales don't take a hit, will they be brave enough to say each club keeps the extra income from its leg?

They are paying to use Hampden as you'd expect, not sure of the agreement on concessions but I'd imagine they'll have to bring in their own for beer at least.

In good news Kellock says they have passed their breakeven number of ticket sales.

[Biffer]

Both legs of the 1872 selling well. Face book saysore than 30k for Hampden, and Murrayfield has sold most of the lower bowl plus all of Upper east and a bug chunk of upper west.

My question here is - do Glasgow pay rent per game for Scotstoun? I know it'll be a whack more for Hampden, but 20k extra tickets must surely be at least half a million quid extra income for the SRU. And if Murrayfield sales don't take a hit, will they be brave enough to say each club keeps the extra income from its leg?

They are paying to use Hampden as you'd expect, not sure of the agreement on concessions but I'd imagine they'll have to bring in their own for beer at least.

In good news Kellock says they have passed their breakeven number of ticket sales.

I think they're well past break even. I doubt anyone would have projected 30k+ for this - Glasgow isn't as much of a rugby city as Edinburgh, Murrayfield only got this fixture past that level last year for the first time and the 'big game' status is now spread over two legs.

[GrahamWa]

Both legs of the 1872 selling well. Face book saysore than 30k for Hampden, and Murrayfield has sold most of the lower bowl plus all of Upper east and a bug chunk of upper west.

My question here is - do Glasgow pay rent per game for Scotstoun? I know it'll be a whack more for Hampden, but 20k extra tickets must surely be at least half a million quid extra income for the SRU. And if Murrayfield sales don't take a hit, will they be brave enough to say each club keeps the extra income from its leg?

Think it is understood that the clubs keep the money but being the SRU no one outside of the politburo can break it down to fully see that. The chat from Glasgow keeping their top players if/when its a success is part of the decision making process to take it to Hampden.

[Yr Alban]

FFS - have just checked the dates and of course the game at Murrayfield is between Xmas and Hogmanay. I’m sure that scheduling games over the festive season is good in many ways, but my elder son comes down from Uni in Embra on the 19th for a week, and then I have a run of shifts between the 27th and the 1st. Not only does the MF game happen during that period when I’m stuck in Wales, Hearts also have three home fixtures, including Hibs on the 26th, and I’ll miss all four games. (OK, that might be a blessing with the Hearts games just now, but even so)

[Biffer]

Both legs of the 1872 selling well. Face book saysore than 30k for Hampden, and Murrayfield has sold most of the lower bowl plus all of Upper east and a bug chunk of upper west.

My question here is - do Glasgow pay rent per game for Scotstoun? I know it'll be a whack more for Hampden, but 20k extra tickets must surely be at least half a million quid extra income for the SRU. And if Murrayfield sales don't take a hit, will they be brave enough to say each club keeps the extra income from its leg?

Think it is understood that the clubs keep the money but being the SRU no one outside of the politburo can break it down to fully see that. The chat from Glasgow keeping their top players if/when its a success is part of the decision making process to take it to Hampden.

Nope.

Edinburgh didn't keep the money from the 1872 at Murrayfield. It was split.

That's why Cockers was entirely confident in saying he wanted the 1872 at Myreside .

[SaintK]

Didn't watch the Toulon v Glasgow match but just scrolling through the latest rugby news updates, this sounds a bit worrying.

Scotland and Glasgow Warriors back Stafford McDowall could face a lengthy ban after an alleged eye gouge during the Investec Champions Cup clash against Toulon.
A citing complaint has been issued against McDowall, the EPCR have confirmed, after he is alleged to have made contact with the eye or eye area of Toulon number eight Facundo Isa during the round two clash.
If found guilty, McDowall could face a suspension ranging anywhere from a four-match ban – reduced by a maximum of 50% – to a 208-week ban depending on the severity of the action.

https://www.planetrugby.com/news/watch ... hefty-ban

[I like neeps]

Didn't watch the Toulon v Glasgow match but just scrolling through the latest rugby news updates, this sounds a bit worrying.

Scotland and Glasgow Warriors back Stafford McDowall could face a lengthy ban after an alleged eye gouge during the Investec Champions Cup clash against Toulon.
A citing complaint has been issued against McDowall, the EPCR have confirmed, after he is alleged to have made contact with the eye or eye area of Toulon number eight Facundo Isa during the round two clash.
If found guilty, McDowall could face a suspension ranging anywhere from a four-match ban – reduced by a maximum of 50% – to a 208-week ban depending on the severity of the action.

https://www.planetrugby.com/news/watch ... hefty-ban

Clearly an accidental contact during a choke tackle with the eye, will be a few weeks ban but I'd be surprised if it was deemed malicious.

[Tichtheid]

Didn't watch the Toulon v Glasgow match but just scrolling through the latest rugby news updates, this sounds a bit worrying.

Scotland and Glasgow Warriors back Stafford McDowall could face a lengthy ban after an alleged eye gouge during the Investec Champions Cup clash against Toulon.
A citing complaint has been issued against McDowall, the EPCR have confirmed, after he is alleged to have made contact with the eye or eye area of Toulon number eight Facundo Isa during the round two clash.
If found guilty, McDowall could face a suspension ranging anywhere from a four-match ban – reduced by a maximum of 50% – to a 208-week ban depending on the severity of the action.

https://www.planetrugby.com/news/watch ... hefty-ban

Clearly an accidental contact during a choke tackle with the eye, will be a few weeks ban but I'd be surprised if it was deemed malicious.

It must be low end entry point, he was wrestling with the opposition player for possession of the ball. I don't think he's had any kind of previous ban so I'd hope he will get two weeks maximum.

It does make me grind my teeth when we saw Etzebeth involved in a similar action against a Glasgow player just before the AIs and what happened there? Nothing.

[KingBlairhorn]

Agree with the other comments, it was both accidental and worthy of a short ban. Lucky Stafford, he’ll be having a decent Christmas this year.

[Sandstorm]

Agree with the other comments, it was both accidental and worthy of a short ban.

I agree - but on experience of the judicial committees these days, he'll probably get 7 months.

[I like neeps]

Didn't watch the Toulon v Glasgow match but just scrolling through the latest rugby news updates, this sounds a bit worrying.

https://www.planetrugby.com/news/watch ... hefty-ban

Clearly an accidental contact during a choke tackle with the eye, will be a few weeks ban but I'd be surprised if it was deemed malicious.

It must be low end entry point, he was wrestling with the opposition player for possession of the ball. I don't think he's had any kind of previous ban so I'd hope he will get two weeks maximum.

It does make me grind my teeth when we saw Etzebeth involved in a similar action against a Glasgow player just before the AIs and what happened there? Nothing.

Fwiw Henco Venter said Etzebeth never touched his eyes according to Carolan in the press.

[SaintK]

Didn't watch the Toulon v Glasgow match but just scrolling through the latest rugby news updates, this sounds a bit worrying.

Scotland and Glasgow Warriors back Stafford McDowall could face a lengthy ban after an alleged eye gouge during the Investec Champions Cup clash against Toulon.
A citing complaint has been issued against McDowall, the EPCR have confirmed, after he is alleged to have made contact with the eye or eye area of Toulon number eight Facundo Isa during the round two clash.
If found guilty, McDowall could face a suspension ranging anywhere from a four-match ban – reduced by a maximum of 50% – to a 208-week ban depending on the severity of the action.

https://www.planetrugby.com/news/watch ... hefty-ban

Clearly an accidental contact during a choke tackle with the eye, will be a few weeks ban but I'd be surprised if it was deemed malicious.

Thanks

[Tichtheid]

Clearly an accidental contact during a choke tackle with the eye, will be a few weeks ban but I'd be surprised if it was deemed malicious.

It must be low end entry point, he was wrestling with the opposition player for possession of the ball. I don't think he's had any kind of previous ban so I'd hope he will get two weeks maximum.

It does make me grind my teeth when we saw Etzebeth involved in a similar action against a Glasgow player just before the AIs and what happened there? Nothing.

Fwiw Henco Venter said Etzebeth never touched his eyes according to Carolan in the press.

Well if Carolan is true, then fair enough - but from the camera angles we saw there was as much/as little contact as there as there was with McDowall, so hopefully McDowall will receive no sanction, just like Etzebeth

[I like neeps]

It must be low end entry point, he was wrestling with the opposition player for possession of the ball. I don't think he's had any kind of previous ban so I'd hope he will get two weeks maximum.

It does make me grind my teeth when we saw Etzebeth involved in a similar action against a Glasgow player just before the AIs and what happened there? Nothing.

Fwiw Henco Venter said Etzebeth never touched his eyes according to Carolan in the press.

Well if Carolan is true, then fair enough - but from the camera angles we saw there was as much/as little contact as there as there was with McDowall, so hopefully McDowall will receive no sanction, just like Etzebeth

I don't see the need for the but as a Glasgow coach has come out and said the player whose eyes were supposedly contacted said nothing happened. It's conspiratorial when the Warriors have on record said there was no eye contact.

[Biffer]

Another couple of sections released for Hampden in the last few days, and the last three sections of the lower bowl at Murrayfield released today (upper East and West pretty well sold as well but good availability).

Might get two 30k-ish crowds here which is way beyond my expectation.

[SaintK]

It must be low end entry point, he was wrestling with the opposition player for possession of the ball. I don't think he's had any kind of previous ban so I'd hope he will get two weeks maximum.

It does make me grind my teeth when we saw Etzebeth involved in a similar action against a Glasgow player just before the AIs and what happened there? Nothing.

Fwiw Henco Venter said Etzebeth never touched his eyes according to Carolan in the press.

Well if Carolan is true, then fair enough - but from the camera angles we saw there was as much/as little contact as there as there was with McDowall, so hopefully McDowall will receive no sanction, just like Etzebeth

Nope!

Scotland and Glasgow Warriors centre Stafford McDowall has been handed a three-match ban for making ‘reckless contact with the eye’ of Toulon forward Facundo Isa.

[topofthemoon]

Fwiw Henco Venter said Etzebeth never touched his eyes according to Carolan in the press.

Well if Carolan is true, then fair enough - but from the camera angles we saw there was as much/as little contact as there as there was with McDowall, so hopefully McDowall will receive no sanction, just like Etzebeth

I don't see the need for the but as a Glasgow coach has come out and said the player whose eyes were supposedly contacted said nothing happened. It's conspiratorial when the Warriors have on record said there was no eye contact.

To be fair, it doesn't need to be contact with the eye for a ban - contact with the eye area is enough. Etzebeth's hands surely in close enough proximity that he would have had a couple of weeks off if he'd been brought up in front of a disciplinary panel.

[Tichtheid]

Fwiw Henco Venter said Etzebeth never touched his eyes according to Carolan in the press.

Well if Carolan is true, then fair enough - but from the camera angles we saw there was as much/as little contact as there as there was with McDowall, so hopefully McDowall will receive no sanction, just like Etzebeth

Nope!

Scotland and Glasgow Warriors centre Stafford McDowall has been handed a three-match ban for making ‘reckless contact with the eye’ of Toulon forward Facundo Isa.

Just about everything in rugby's citing process, the panel hearings and the outcomes of same are a joke. The fact they dress this up as a judicial operation involving lawyers etc is merely a measure of how pompous they all are.

[clydecloggie]

Bad injury list, still a strong team.

[Tichtheid]

[clydecloggie]

The Extras from the East bring the names. If only they could play up to their names, I'd be worried.

[robmatic]

Bad injury list, still a strong team.

Needs more hookers.

[Dogbert]

Edinburgh by 20

[I like neeps]

The Extras from the East bring the names. If only they could play up to their names, I'd be worried.

They do vs Glasgow. Only game they play well!

[TheNatalShark]

Is this Skinner's first game back?

[Tichtheid]

Is this Skinner's first game back?

He's been back since the Benetton game, Sykes has been worth his place in the team ahead of him.

[KingBlairhorn]

The 20s beat wales 45-43 this afternoon. I believe it was a pretty young Welsh side though so not sure that it is a particularly great result.

[Punter15]

The 20s beat wales 45-43 this afternoon. I believe it was a pretty young Welsh side though so not sure that it is a particularly great result.

Good turnaround and good result free going behind very early. Not convinced about the pack, but the backs are up there. Cowan and Ventisei were mustard, and Urwin has very decent boot on him.

[Yr Alban]

The 20s beat wales 45-43 this afternoon. I believe it was a pretty young Welsh side though so not sure that it is a particularly great result.

I’m OK with any kind of win when it’s an age group side we have out.

[Slick]

The 20s beat wales 45-43 this afternoon. I believe it was a pretty young Welsh side though so not sure that it is a particularly great result.

I’m OK with any kind of win when it’s an age group side we have out.

Was thinking the same, we’ve had plenty of loses when putting out young teams

[KingBlairhorn]

The 20s beat wales 45-43 this afternoon. I believe it was a pretty young Welsh side though so not sure that it is a particularly great result.

Good turnaround and good result free going behind very early. Not convinced about the pack, but the backs are up there. Cowan and Ventisei were mustard, and Urwin has very decent boot on him.

How did you get to see it? I thought it was behind closed doors. Is Urwin the 10? Ventisei a wing? I’ve not seen / heard of Cowan before I don’t think, where’s he play?

[Punter15]

The 20s beat wales 45-43 this afternoon. I believe it was a pretty young Welsh side though so not sure that it is a particularly great result.

Good turnaround and good result free going behind very early. Not convinced about the pack, but the backs are up there. Cowan and Ventisei were mustard, and Urwin has very decent boot on him.

How did you get to see it? I thought it was behind closed doors. Is Urwin the 10? Ventisei a wing? I’ve not seen / heard of Cowan before I don’t think, where’s he play?

Not strictly behind closed doors, you just need to be connected/involved rather than a spectator. Urwin is indeed the 10, Ventisei is OC, and Cowan the 9.

[Jock42]

Any idea of the final attendance yet?

[Big D]

Real powderpuff stuff from Bradbury (i think) to be turned over there.

[Big D]

Good maul from Glasgow.

All that came from clueless and directionless attack from Edinburgh that was going nowhere.

[Big D]

Utterly daft by Schoeman.

[I like neeps]

Utterly daft by Schoeman.

Cheapshot, should be red.