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Jockaline wrote: Fri Jan 10, 2025 10:05 pm Just wondering if anyone else as a problem with the game switching to some other game/sport when watching premier sports. Most annoying and seems odd for it to be a laptop issue.
Myself and Yr Alban had that problem watching the Edin v Glasgow match the other week. Was getting extremely annoying. No issues tonight though.
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Jockaline wrote: Fri Jan 10, 2025 10:05 pm Just wondering if anyone else as a problem with the game switching to some other game/sport when watching premier sports. Most annoying and seems odd for it to be a laptop issue.
Only watched one match on the player and never had any issues.
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I’ve got a new theory on why Edinburgh are often lacking despite having all these internationals.

Watching tonight, at least the first half, you could really see the Glasgow players enjoying being in Scotstoun and the real camaraderie of the players.

Playing for Scotland at Murrayfield must be a hugely emotional occasion for the players and I wonder if coming back on a Monday morning to the same empty stadium and having that as your base (I know they often train elsewhere) just makes it more difficult to switch emotions to your club and makes it difficult to foster that emotional connection that returning to a club is for most international players.

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Slick wrote: Fri Jan 10, 2025 10:38 pm I’ve got a new theory on why Edinburgh are often lacking despite having all these internationals.

Watching tonight, at least the first half, you could really see the Glasgow players enjoying being in Scotstoun and the real camaraderie of the players.

Playing for Scotland at Murrayfield must be a hugely emotional occasion for the players and I wonder if coming back on a Monday morning to the same empty stadium and having that as your base (I know they often train elsewhere) just makes it more difficult to switch emotions to your club and makes it difficult to foster that emotional connection that returning to a club is for most international players.

Think I’ve cracked it

Edinburgh aren't based at Murrayfield, though. They are based on the on old Murrayfield Wanderers ground, refashioned as the Hive - they don't go in to the main stadium.

They have been based elsewhere too such as at Watsons - it has made little difference
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We saw a glimpse of what might have been with Mike Blair, I really think we need the right guy at the helm. Glasgow got lucky with Lineen and then Townsend - both could have easily have been based at Edinburgh, but the tone was set there, the culture and winning attitude, and for the most part it has carried on.

Edinburgh had Bradley and Solomons, though Andy whatshisface was getting somewhere before he moved up to coach Scotland.
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SomersetJock wrote: Fri Jan 10, 2025 10:08 pm
Jockaline wrote: Fri Jan 10, 2025 10:05 pm Just wondering if anyone else as a problem with the game switching to some other game/sport when watching premier sports. Most annoying and seems odd for it to be a laptop issue.
Myself and Yr Alban had that problem watching the Edin v Glasgow match the other week. Was getting extremely annoying. No issues tonight though.
Good to know it's not just me, happened once tonight for me, but also in the past.
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Jockaline wrote: Fri Jan 10, 2025 10:51 pm
SomersetJock wrote: Fri Jan 10, 2025 10:08 pm
Jockaline wrote: Fri Jan 10, 2025 10:05 pm Just wondering if anyone else as a problem with the game switching to some other game/sport when watching premier sports. Most annoying and seems odd for it to be a laptop issue.
Myself and Yr Alban had that problem watching the Edin v Glasgow match the other week. Was getting extremely annoying. No issues tonight though.
Good to know it's not just me, happened once tonight for me, but also in the past.

I've read of stuff like this happening to others on the Glasgow forum, but I haven't had any issue yet - touch wood
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Tichtheid wrote: Fri Jan 10, 2025 10:54 pm
Jockaline wrote: Fri Jan 10, 2025 10:51 pm
SomersetJock wrote: Fri Jan 10, 2025 10:08 pm

Myself and Yr Alban had that problem watching the Edin v Glasgow match the other week. Was getting extremely annoying. No issues tonight though.
Good to know it's not just me, happened once tonight for me, but also in the past.

I've read of stuff like this happening to others on the Glasgow forum, but I haven't had any issue yet - touch wood
Thanks for replies, if it keeps happening I might get round to phoning them.
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SomersetJock wrote: Fri Jan 10, 2025 10:08 pm
Jockaline wrote: Fri Jan 10, 2025 10:05 pm Just wondering if anyone else as a problem with the game switching to some other game/sport when watching premier sports. Most annoying and seems odd for it to be a laptop issue.
Myself and Yr Alban had that problem watching the Edin v Glasgow match the other week. Was getting extremely annoying. No issues tonight though.
Yep - it must have done it 15 times or more. Really frustrating. We were also watching on a laptop.
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Jock42 wrote: Fri Jan 10, 2025 10:11 pm
Jockaline wrote: Fri Jan 10, 2025 10:05 pm Just wondering if anyone else as a problem with the game switching to some other game/sport when watching premier sports. Most annoying and seems odd for it to be a laptop issue.
Only watched one match on the player and never had any issues.
That's not true actually. Watched a few but only one that was streaming only. Never had an issue on my phone and the streaming only was on the TV through the app.
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Tichtheid wrote: Fri Jan 10, 2025 10:43 pm
Slick wrote: Fri Jan 10, 2025 10:38 pm I’ve got a new theory on why Edinburgh are often lacking despite having all these internationals.

Watching tonight, at least the first half, you could really see the Glasgow players enjoying being in Scotstoun and the real camaraderie of the players.

Playing for Scotland at Murrayfield must be a hugely emotional occasion for the players and I wonder if coming back on a Monday morning to the same empty stadium and having that as your base (I know they often train elsewhere) just makes it more difficult to switch emotions to your club and makes it difficult to foster that emotional connection that returning to a club is for most international players.

Think I’ve cracked it

Edinburgh aren't based at Murrayfield, though. They are based on the on old Murrayfield Wanderers ground, refashioned as the Hive - they don't go in to the main stadium.

They have been based elsewhere too such as at Watsons - it has made little difference
That’s a tad pedantic, it’s difficult to miss the stadium from there.
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Yr Alban wrote: Fri Jan 10, 2025 11:19 pm
SomersetJock wrote: Fri Jan 10, 2025 10:08 pm
Jockaline wrote: Fri Jan 10, 2025 10:05 pm Just wondering if anyone else as a problem with the game switching to some other game/sport when watching premier sports. Most annoying and seems odd for it to be a laptop issue.
Myself and Yr Alban had that problem watching the Edin v Glasgow match the other week. Was getting extremely annoying. No issues tonight though.
Yep - it must have done it 15 times or more. Really frustrating. We were also watching on a laptop.
Strange thing was I use that laptop to watch games most weeks and haven’t had the issue before. Only difference was I was using the WiFi at the rugby club rather than at home. Cant see how that makes any difference though.
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Slick wrote: Sat Jan 11, 2025 7:11 am
Tichtheid wrote: Fri Jan 10, 2025 10:43 pm
Slick wrote: Fri Jan 10, 2025 10:38 pm I’ve got a new theory on why Edinburgh are often lacking despite having all these internationals.

Watching tonight, at least the first half, you could really see the Glasgow players enjoying being in Scotstoun and the real camaraderie of the players.

Playing for Scotland at Murrayfield must be a hugely emotional occasion for the players and I wonder if coming back on a Monday morning to the same empty stadium and having that as your base (I know they often train elsewhere) just makes it more difficult to switch emotions to your club and makes it difficult to foster that emotional connection that returning to a club is for most international players.

Think I’ve cracked it

Edinburgh aren't based at Murrayfield, though. They are based on the on old Murrayfield Wanderers ground, refashioned as the Hive - they don't go in to the main stadium.

They have been based elsewhere too such as at Watsons - it has made little difference
That’s a tad pedantic, it’s difficult to miss the stadium from there.


I just think that there have been enough glimpses of the good stuff, see them tearing Benetton apart in the first half and then looking as if they were thinking about what pub they were going to after the game. The real grit shown against Glasgow v the no-show at Hampden. The inability to put Leinster away in the first game when they really should have, same against Ospreys. It's the maddening inconsistency that is the problem. We've had players come in like Skinner from Exeter where the culture was a winning one, same with Healy from Munster. Vellacott came from Glaws who are not a soft touch.

The inability to win away is a mental issue, imo. I'm really not sure Murrayfield plays a part in that - they are winning at home after all. There was some speculation that the SRU were too close in the past, some of the high heid yins would watch training and mingle with the players. I hope they've been told to get tae fuck long ago.

Everitt is seemingly a very nice bloke, but if he can't get the mindset of the players right then he's not doing his job - the players are all doing their training and reaching their target numbers there, it's not about working hard, they do that. It's those top two or three inches - Glasgow play with smiles on their faces, most of the Edinburgh team look like they huff and puff their way through a game very seriously, the only ones who don't are Watson, Vellacott and Price.
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17-19 at half time.

Their first try was apparently very dodgy, but Edinburgh are terrible.
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Big D wrote: Sat Jan 11, 2025 2:12 pm Muncaster in a moon boot and on crutches.
He’s now behind Jack Mann in the Scotland pecking order. Playing for Glasgow offering huge advantages over Edinburgh right now.
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A bonus point away win, can't complain :)
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Jockaline wrote: Sat Jan 11, 2025 2:59 pm A bonus point away win, can't complain :)
I didn’t watch but that’s a decent win
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Jockaline wrote: Sat Jan 11, 2025 2:59 pm A bonus point away win, can't complain :)
Not that I want to be all doom and gloom or looking to pick holes but any idea how strong the vannes side was?
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KingBlairhorn wrote: Sat Jan 11, 2025 3:00 pm
Jockaline wrote: Sat Jan 11, 2025 2:59 pm A bonus point away win, can't complain :)
I didn’t watch but that’s a decent win
Neither did I, was just tracking updates.
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Jock42 wrote: Sat Jan 11, 2025 3:05 pm
Jockaline wrote: Sat Jan 11, 2025 2:59 pm A bonus point away win, can't complain :)
Not that I want to be all doom and gloom or looking to pick holes but any idea how strong the vannes side was?
I’m not even sure I’d heard of Vannes last week.

Never mind that though - it’s an away win for the team that can’t win away. Who it was against isn’t the issue right now.
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Jock42 wrote: Sat Jan 11, 2025 3:05 pm
Jockaline wrote: Sat Jan 11, 2025 2:59 pm A bonus point away win, can't complain :)
Not that I want to be all doom and gloom or looking to pick holes but any idea how strong the vannes side was?
The bottom side in the Top 14 and they changed 13 of their starting XV from their league match last weekend.

It should have been a pumping but the 5 points is all that matters in the end I guess.
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A bit surprised and pleased to see Hutchison playing Fly Half for Northampton in their game. Making a good fist of it as well.
I don’t remember seeing him play there before.
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westport wrote: Sat Jan 11, 2025 4:49 pm BK scores a try against the Sharks
How did he play?
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The Party Line wrote: Sat Jan 11, 2025 6:09 pm A bit surprised and pleased to see Hutchison playing Fly Half for Northampton in their game. Making a good fist of it as well.
I don’t remember seeing him play there before.
I saw a really weird shitfight on Instagram earlier in the week with someone adamant that Hutchinson was the second best 10 for Scotland and someone shouting back saying he doesn’t play there
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Slick wrote: Sat Jan 11, 2025 9:22 pm
westport wrote: Sat Jan 11, 2025 4:49 pm BK scores a try against the Sharks
How did he play?
Superb. Probably the most influential figure on the park until he was subbed off about 65 minutes following a knock. He made the try he scored. Picked up the ball in midfield and threw a 25 yards pass to the winger, who passed to Ramos who threw a beautiful no look, behind the back pass as Blair wrapped around him to score in the corner. It was a thing of beauty.
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Blackmac wrote: Sat Jan 11, 2025 11:28 pm
Slick wrote: Sat Jan 11, 2025 9:22 pm
westport wrote: Sat Jan 11, 2025 4:49 pm BK scores a try against the Sharks
How did he play?
Superb. Probably the most influential figure on the park until he was subbed off about 65 minutes following a knock. He made the try he scored. Picked up the ball in midfield and threw a 25 yards pass to the winger, who passed to Ramos who threw a beautiful no look, behind the back pass as Blair wrapped around him to score in the corner. It was a thing of beauty.
Oh nice! Do we know any more about the knock?

I had to turn the Glasgow game off after Sione’s try when it looked like he got a knock as well but from what I see he carried on? Getting a bit nervous for the 6N already.
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Slick wrote: Sun Jan 12, 2025 7:48 am
Blackmac wrote: Sat Jan 11, 2025 11:28 pm
Slick wrote: Sat Jan 11, 2025 9:22 pm

How did he play?
Superb. Probably the most influential figure on the park until he was subbed off about 65 minutes following a knock. He made the try he scored. Picked up the ball in midfield and threw a 25 yards pass to the winger, who passed to Ramos who threw a beautiful no look, behind the back pass as Blair wrapped around him to score in the corner. It was a thing of beauty.
Oh nice! Do we know any more about the knock?

I had to turn the Glasgow game off after Sione’s try when it looked like he got a knock as well but from what I see he carried on? Getting a bit nervous for the 6N already.
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Glasgow will be pretty heavy favourites for the Quins game, tbh.
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topofthemoon wrote: Sat Jan 11, 2025 5:15 pm
Jock42 wrote: Sat Jan 11, 2025 3:05 pm
Jockaline wrote: Sat Jan 11, 2025 2:59 pm A bonus point away win, can't complain :)
Not that I want to be all doom and gloom or looking to pick holes but any idea how strong the vannes side was?
The bottom side in the Top 14 and they changed 13 of their starting XV from their league match last weekend.

It should have been a pumping but the 5 points is all that matters in the end I guess.
I agree in terms of progression in the competition. But for a side that wasn't a million miles from full go v a ProD2 level team it should not paper over the sizeable cracks imo
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The Party Line wrote: Sat Jan 11, 2025 6:09 pm A bit surprised and pleased to see Hutchison playing Fly Half for Northampton in their game. Making a good fist of it as well.
I don’t remember seeing him play there before.
IIRC he played a but there are national age grade.

Relevant only in terms of he's Scottish and nothing else, it seems Hogg is making a decent fist of playing 10 for his club too.
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topofthemoon wrote: Sat Jan 11, 2025 5:15 pm
Jock42 wrote: Sat Jan 11, 2025 3:05 pm
Jockaline wrote: Sat Jan 11, 2025 2:59 pm A bonus point away win, can't complain :)
Not that I want to be all doom and gloom or looking to pick holes but any idea how strong the vannes side was?
The bottom side in the Top 14 and they changed 13 of their starting XV from their league match last weekend.

It should have been a pumping but the 5 points is all that matters in the end I guess.
Thanks for that. Have to agree with Big D, a wins a win and aw that but they only showed flashes of determination and intensity during the match. Isn't going to be good enough in the R16
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Big D wrote: Sun Jan 12, 2025 3:44 pm
topofthemoon wrote: Sat Jan 11, 2025 5:15 pm
Jock42 wrote: Sat Jan 11, 2025 3:05 pm

Not that I want to be all doom and gloom or looking to pick holes but any idea how strong the vannes side was?
The bottom side in the Top 14 and they changed 13 of their starting XV from their league match last weekend.

It should have been a pumping but the 5 points is all that matters in the end I guess.
I agree in terms of progression in the competition. But for a side that wasn't a million miles from full go v a ProD2 level team it should not paper over the sizeable cracks imo
I think if they had lost that one Everitt would have been toast.

As it stands they should now be able to get to the URC playoffs and Challenge Cup semi-finals based almost entirely on home form.

If they keep up their home record, they probably only need to win in Parma and then one from three away games against Scarlets or Benetton or Connacht for progression in the URC.

If he manages European semi and URC quarter then he's most likely in with the bricks for 2 or 3 more seasons.
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topofthemoon wrote: Sun Jan 12, 2025 4:10 pm
Big D wrote: Sun Jan 12, 2025 3:44 pm
topofthemoon wrote: Sat Jan 11, 2025 5:15 pm
The bottom side in the Top 14 and they changed 13 of their starting XV from their league match last weekend.

It should have been a pumping but the 5 points is all that matters in the end I guess.
I agree in terms of progression in the competition. But for a side that wasn't a million miles from full go v a ProD2 level team it should not paper over the sizeable cracks imo
I think if they had lost that one Everitt would have been toast.

As it stands they should now be able to get to the URC playoffs and Challenge Cup semi-finals based almost entirely on home form.

If they keep up their home record, they probably only need to win in Parma and then one from three away games against Scarlets or Benetton or Connacht for progression in the URC.

If he manages European semi and URC quarter then he's most likely in with the bricks for 2 or 3 more seasons.
Could end up effectively being a KO game v Ulster in game week 18. Although the SA sides have games in hand.
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21 mins in and I have thoroughly enjoyed Finns performance tonight. Chris Robshaw doesn’t seem to like giving him and credit mind 😂
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TOTM posting on twatter that Quins loss tonight guaranteed Glasgow a home tie in the last 16 which is good news. Go out and beat Quins themselves next week and it should be a pretty favourable draw, insomuch as any game in the last 16 is favourable.
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JM2K6 wrote: Sun Jan 12, 2025 3:30 pm Glasgow will be pretty heavy favourites for the Quins game, tbh.
I’d like to think they would beat Quins, but given the above I wonder what kind of side they will go with
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Slick wrote: Sun Jan 12, 2025 7:39 pm
JM2K6 wrote: Sun Jan 12, 2025 3:30 pm Glasgow will be pretty heavy favourites for the Quins game, tbh.
I’d like to think they would beat Quins, but given the above I wonder what kind of side they will go with
I suspect (hope) that we go fully loaded against Quins, depending on who maybe carrying knocks - may even see Williamson & Dempsey back

The next two URC games are against Connacht , at Scotstoun , and the Dragons at Rodney parade , I can see Franco using these two games to rotate players out ( Fagersons / Sione / Shuggie etc )

Glasgow have a number of long term injured players due back - Ollie Smith is already off the injury list , and Vialanu & Du Preez should be fit very soon, along with McDowall who will have served his suspension
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SomersetJock wrote: Sun Jan 12, 2025 5:57 pm 21 mins in and I have thoroughly enjoyed Finns performance tonight. Chris Robshaw doesn’t seem to like giving him and credit mind 😂
He was trying to give the pack some credit so we didn't have to listen to Dallaglio wank on about Russell every 30 seconds, tbf
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