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I’d laugh, if it wasn’t so unfunny.
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Sandstorm wrote: Wed Mar 05, 2025 8:36 pm
Stranger wrote: Wed Mar 05, 2025 6:34 pm I don't normally post on politics threads, but I just want to go on record to say "I fucking hate Trump and the MAGA twats"
All aboard the train, Stranger. :thumbup:
Trump will likely stop the Ukrainian war and killing. That makes him ok. The MIC investors will be pissed though.
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Canada putting surcharges on electricity exports and talking about cutting supplies across the border.
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Firewater wrote: Thu Mar 06, 2025 2:25 am
Sandstorm wrote: Wed Mar 05, 2025 8:36 pm
Stranger wrote: Wed Mar 05, 2025 6:34 pm I don't normally post on politics threads, but I just want to go on record to say "I fucking hate Trump and the MAGA twats"
All aboard the train, Stranger. :thumbup:
Trump will likely stop the Ukrainian war and killing. That makes him ok. The MIC investors will be pissed though.
He's choosing a particular way to end it which rewards and will embolden an imperialisatic aggressor nation, one that is only ever a bad faith actor on the global stage.

The killing can stop tomorrow if Putin pulls out of the country he invaded, yet all the pressure is being exerted on Ukraine to accept losing significant parts of their territory that are also of great economic importance. No nation in the world.

It's bullshit and sets a dangerous precedent that Russia can do whatever the fuck it wants to neighbouring territories. Hand-wringing about the death involved in Ukraine defending itself is just the latest nonsense Fox News talking point to justify bending over for Putin.
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sockwithaticket wrote: Thu Mar 06, 2025 9:21 am
Firewater wrote: Thu Mar 06, 2025 2:25 am
Sandstorm wrote: Wed Mar 05, 2025 8:36 pm

All aboard the train, Stranger. :thumbup:
Trump will likely stop the Ukrainian war and killing. That makes him ok. The MIC investors will be pissed though.
He's choosing a particular way to end it which rewards and will embolden an imperialisatic aggressor nation, one that is only ever a bad faith actor on the global stage.

The killing can stop tomorrow if Putin pulls out of the country he invaded, yet all the pressure is being exerted on Ukraine to accept losing significant parts of their territory that are also of great economic importance. No nation in the world.

It's bullshit and sets a dangerous precedent that Russia can do whatever the fuck it wants to neighbouring territories. Hand-wringing about the death involved in Ukraine defending itself is just the latest nonsense Fox News talking point to justify bending over for Putin.
Please stop quoting this troll, I have him on Ignore. Thanks.
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Sandstorm wrote: Thu Mar 06, 2025 9:24 am
sockwithaticket wrote: Thu Mar 06, 2025 9:21 am
Firewater wrote: Thu Mar 06, 2025 2:25 am

Trump will likely stop the Ukrainian war and killing. That makes him ok. The MIC investors will be pissed though.
He's choosing a particular way to end it which rewards and will embolden an imperialisatic aggressor nation, one that is only ever a bad faith actor on the global stage.

The killing can stop tomorrow if Putin pulls out of the country he invaded, yet all the pressure is being exerted on Ukraine to accept losing significant parts of their territory that are also of great economic importance. No nation in the world.

It's bullshit and sets a dangerous precedent that Russia can do whatever the fuck it wants to neighbouring territories. Hand-wringing about the death involved in Ukraine defending itself is just the latest nonsense Fox News talking point to justify bending over for Putin.
Please stop quoting this troll, I have him on Ignore. Thanks.
Fair point, I have convoluted on ignore for reading like a MAGA/Ruski bot, this one probably warrants the same.
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Biffer wrote: Wed Mar 05, 2025 5:26 pm
geordie_6 wrote: Wed Mar 05, 2025 4:01 pm Supreme Court reject Trump's request to withhold payment from foreign aid groups. Coney Barrett and Roberts joined the liberal judges for a 5-4 decision.

https://www.reuters.com/legal/us-suprem ... 025-03-05/
Astonishing that four judges would agree that it's legal to not pay for contracted work that has already been completed.
Probably means he only needs another one to start winning everything he needs there, the extra one on his side, would reduce the voices against, and make dissension less likely.
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Sandstorm wrote: Thu Mar 06, 2025 9:24 am
sockwithaticket wrote: Thu Mar 06, 2025 9:21 am
Firewater wrote: Thu Mar 06, 2025 2:25 am

Trump will likely stop the Ukrainian war and killing. That makes him ok. The MIC investors will be pissed though.
He's choosing a particular way to end it which rewards and will embolden an imperialisatic aggressor nation, one that is only ever a bad faith actor on the global stage.

The killing can stop tomorrow if Putin pulls out of the country he invaded, yet all the pressure is being exerted on Ukraine to accept losing significant parts of their territory that are also of great economic importance. No nation in the world.

It's bullshit and sets a dangerous precedent that Russia can do whatever the fuck it wants to neighbouring territories. Hand-wringing about the death involved in Ukraine defending itself is just the latest nonsense Fox News talking point to justify bending over for Putin.
Please stop quoting this troll, I have him on Ignore. Thanks.
A troll is anyone who disagreesn with you viewpoint. Or not your view point the mainstream media / MIC viewpoint that many like you just accept without question.
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sockwithaticket wrote: Thu Mar 06, 2025 9:21 am
Firewater wrote: Thu Mar 06, 2025 2:25 am
Sandstorm wrote: Wed Mar 05, 2025 8:36 pm

All aboard the train, Stranger. :thumbup:
Trump will likely stop the Ukrainian war and killing. That makes him ok. The MIC investors will be pissed though.
He's choosing a particular way to end it which rewards and will embolden an imperialisatic aggressor nation, one that is only ever a bad faith actor on the global stage.

The killing can stop tomorrow if Putin pulls out of the country he invaded, yet all the pressure is being exerted on Ukraine to accept losing significant parts of their territory that are also of great economic importance. No nation in the world.

It's bullshit and sets a dangerous precedent that Russia can do whatever the fuck it wants to neighbouring territories. Hand-wringing about the death involved in Ukraine defending itself is just the latest nonsense Fox News talking point to justify bending over for Putin.
Ukraine refused to comply with the Minsk agreements. And crossed a Russian red line regarding Nato. With assistant from the US. And started killing and removing the right of Russia speaking regions.

But you've read Russia is the bad guy so lets waste huge money and maybe start WW3

And whats more negotiations have no even started yet. Its likely all Russia want is

-No Nato
-Keep regions that want to be part of Russia anyway. And always were either part of Russia or part of the USSR until recently
-Trade with countries. Like selling cheap gas to Germany. Germany (and Europe) will benefit more than Russia
-Unfreeze Russian assets

But let have a major war instead.
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Raggs wrote: Thu Mar 06, 2025 12:01 pm
Biffer wrote: Wed Mar 05, 2025 5:26 pm
geordie_6 wrote: Wed Mar 05, 2025 4:01 pm Supreme Court reject Trump's request to withhold payment from foreign aid groups. Coney Barrett and Roberts joined the liberal judges for a 5-4 decision.

https://www.reuters.com/legal/us-suprem ... 025-03-05/
Astonishing that four judges would agree that it's legal to not pay for contracted work that has already been completed.
Probably means he only needs another one to start winning everything he needs there, the extra one on his side, would reduce the voices against, and make dissension less likely.
A district court judge overruling the President. The 4 judges were right

But its likely not over yet
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Firewater wrote: Thu Mar 06, 2025 2:54 pm
Raggs wrote: Thu Mar 06, 2025 12:01 pm
Biffer wrote: Wed Mar 05, 2025 5:26 pm

Astonishing that four judges would agree that it's legal to not pay for contracted work that has already been completed.
Probably means he only needs another one to start winning everything he needs there, the extra one on his side, would reduce the voices against, and make dissension less likely.
A district court judge overruling the President. The 4 judges were right

But its likely not over yet
They were right that people who've already completed work, shouldn't be paid?
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Raggs wrote: Thu Mar 06, 2025 3:04 pm
Firewater wrote: Thu Mar 06, 2025 2:54 pm
Raggs wrote: Thu Mar 06, 2025 12:01 pm

Probably means he only needs another one to start winning everything he needs there, the extra one on his side, would reduce the voices against, and make dissension less likely.
A district court judge overruling the President. The 4 judges were right

But its likely not over yet

They were right that people who've already completed work, shouldn't be paid?
Conservative Justices Samuel Alito, Clarence Thomas, Neil Gorsuch and Brett Kavanaugh dissented.

Alito said he was stunned by the judge’s order forcing the Trump Administration to pay $2 billion in foreign contracts.

“Does a single district-court judge who likely lacks jurisdiction have the unchecked power to compel the Government of the United States to pay out (and probably lose forever) 2 billion taxpayer dollars? The answer to that question should be an emphatic “No,” but a majority of this Court apparently thinks otherwise. I am stunned,” Alito wrote in a scathing dissent.
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Firewater wrote: Thu Mar 06, 2025 3:23 pm
Raggs wrote: Thu Mar 06, 2025 3:04 pm
Firewater wrote: Thu Mar 06, 2025 2:54 pm

A district court judge overruling the President. The 4 judges were right

But its likely not over yet

They were right that people who've already completed work, shouldn't be paid?
Conservative Justices Samuel Alito, Clarence Thomas, Neil Gorsuch and Brett Kavanaugh dissented.

Alito said he was stunned by the judge’s order forcing the Trump Administration to pay $2 billion in foreign contracts.

“Does a single district-court judge who likely lacks jurisdiction have the unchecked power to compel the Government of the United States to pay out (and probably lose forever) 2 billion taxpayer dollars? The answer to that question should be an emphatic “No,” but a majority of this Court apparently thinks otherwise. I am stunned,” Alito wrote in a scathing dissent.
None of which answers the question. Which makes it pretty clear you don't want to answer it. I can understand idiots wanting to support Trump, that like his strongman schtick, that even perhaps want a dictator. But the idea of not paying someone who's already done the work doesn't fit into many peoples notions of fair, whether they like the toxic wotsit or not. But at least you've made it clear that you're nothing like an honest interlocuter, so I'll have no issues just blocking you from now on.
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Raggs wrote: Thu Mar 06, 2025 3:27 pm
Firewater wrote: Thu Mar 06, 2025 3:23 pm
Raggs wrote: Thu Mar 06, 2025 3:04 pm


They were right that people who've already completed work, shouldn't be paid?
Conservative Justices Samuel Alito, Clarence Thomas, Neil Gorsuch and Brett Kavanaugh dissented.

Alito said he was stunned by the judge’s order forcing the Trump Administration to pay $2 billion in foreign contracts.

“Does a single district-court judge who likely lacks jurisdiction have the unchecked power to compel the Government of the United States to pay out (and probably lose forever) 2 billion taxpayer dollars? The answer to that question should be an emphatic “No,” but a majority of this Court apparently thinks otherwise. I am stunned,” Alito wrote in a scathing dissent.
None of which answers the question. Which makes it pretty clear you don't want to answer it. I can understand idiots wanting to support Trump, that like his strongman schtick, that even perhaps want a dictator. But the idea of not paying someone who's already done the work doesn't fit into many peoples notions of fair, whether they like the toxic wotsit or not. But at least you've made it clear that you're nothing like an honest interlocuter, so I'll have no issues just blocking you from now on.
I did answer your question. Its got nothing to do with fair or not. The West is finsihed. Too many stupid people and stupid judges too.
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I'm sure Russia would welcome you if you want to put your money where your mouth is?
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Raggs wrote: Thu Mar 06, 2025 3:27 pm
Firewater wrote: Thu Mar 06, 2025 3:23 pm
Raggs wrote: Thu Mar 06, 2025 3:04 pm


They were right that people who've already completed work, shouldn't be paid?
Conservative Justices Samuel Alito, Clarence Thomas, Neil Gorsuch and Brett Kavanaugh dissented.

Alito said he was stunned by the judge’s order forcing the Trump Administration to pay $2 billion in foreign contracts.

“Does a single district-court judge who likely lacks jurisdiction have the unchecked power to compel the Government of the United States to pay out (and probably lose forever) 2 billion taxpayer dollars? The answer to that question should be an emphatic “No,” but a majority of this Court apparently thinks otherwise. I am stunned,” Alito wrote in a scathing dissent.
None of which answers the question. Which makes it pretty clear you don't want to answer it. I can understand idiots wanting to support Trump, that like his strongman schtick, that even perhaps want a dictator. But the idea of not paying someone who's already done the work doesn't fit into many peoples notions of fair, whether they like the toxic wotsit or not. But at least you've made it clear that you're nothing like an honest interlocuter, so I'll have no issues just blocking you from now on.
I'm keen to ignore this irritant too, if only I could see the fk button to do it :wtf:
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TedMaul wrote: Thu Mar 06, 2025 4:01 pm
Raggs wrote: Thu Mar 06, 2025 3:27 pm
Firewater wrote: Thu Mar 06, 2025 3:23 pm

Conservative Justices Samuel Alito, Clarence Thomas, Neil Gorsuch and Brett Kavanaugh dissented.

Alito said he was stunned by the judge’s order forcing the Trump Administration to pay $2 billion in foreign contracts.

“Does a single district-court judge who likely lacks jurisdiction have the unchecked power to compel the Government of the United States to pay out (and probably lose forever) 2 billion taxpayer dollars? The answer to that question should be an emphatic “No,” but a majority of this Court apparently thinks otherwise. I am stunned,” Alito wrote in a scathing dissent.
None of which answers the question. Which makes it pretty clear you don't want to answer it. I can understand idiots wanting to support Trump, that like his strongman schtick, that even perhaps want a dictator. But the idea of not paying someone who's already done the work doesn't fit into many peoples notions of fair, whether they like the toxic wotsit or not. But at least you've made it clear that you're nothing like an honest interlocuter, so I'll have no issues just blocking you from now on.
I'm keen to ignore this irritant too, if only I could see the fk button to do it :wtf:
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Just out of interest, and so I can put Firewater's entertaining gibberish in the right box, can anyone sane tell me what MIC actually stands for? The only conspiracy theory I could find was about information being fed to Presidential candidates during debates.
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Hal Jordan wrote: Thu Mar 06, 2025 4:06 pm Just out of interest, and so I can put Firewater's entertaining gibberish in the right box, can anyone sane tell me what MIC actually stands for? The only conspiracy theory I could find was about information being fed to Presidential candidates during debates.
Military Industrial Complex I assume.
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Hal Jordan wrote: Thu Mar 06, 2025 4:06 pm Just out of interest, and so I can put Firewater's entertaining gibberish in the right box, can anyone sane tell me what MIC actually stands for? The only conspiracy theory I could find was about information being fed to Presidential candidates during debates.
If you are a shill to the MSN you wouldn't know about the MIC but it's something that the PTB don't want sheeple to know about, WAKE UP.
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sockwithaticket wrote: Thu Mar 06, 2025 4:03 pm
TedMaul wrote: Thu Mar 06, 2025 4:01 pm
Raggs wrote: Thu Mar 06, 2025 3:27 pm

None of which answers the question. Which makes it pretty clear you don't want to answer it. I can understand idiots wanting to support Trump, that like his strongman schtick, that even perhaps want a dictator. But the idea of not paying someone who's already done the work doesn't fit into many peoples notions of fair, whether they like the toxic wotsit or not. But at least you've made it clear that you're nothing like an honest interlocuter, so I'll have no issues just blocking you from now on.
I'm keen to ignore this irritant too, if only I could see the fk button to do it :wtf:
Click on the username, select 'Add foe'.
I have an easier option.
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The MIC strikes again.
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robmatic wrote: Thu Mar 06, 2025 6:23 pm The MIC strikes again.
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Let's be honest here before he's castigated by dissatisfaction about his posts.
Has he broken any rules? No.
Just because the majority of the posters on here hate Trump, should he be banned for posting pro cunt, sorry, Trump bullshit? Again, no.
If I Zapp him, that is effectively censoring free speech, which this forum proudly upholds, unlike the slightest mention of a sausage on the other place.
ATM, he has broken no rules so sorry, you can block him, but, until he oversteps the mark, he's free to post.

Zapp.
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Modding at its finest.

Yes, Firewater's a delusional idiot. God knows why he chose this forum to dribble his nonsense over. But just ignore the cunt.
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They used to have a nice feature on another board I used to occasionally post on, where when users were sailing close to the edge, their accounts were restricted to post on just one thread on the board, so people didn't have to put them on ignore & shout any others who replied to them.

If you wanted to try & engage with them, you had to seek them out in the "Naughty Step" AKA "Trolls" thread, they didn't pollute everywhere.
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robmatic wrote: Thu Mar 06, 2025 6:23 pm The MIC strikes again.
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I could make him pink.
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:lol:

Now we're talking.
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Gumboot wrote: Thu Mar 06, 2025 6:35 pm :thumbup:

Modding at its finest.

Yes, Firewater's a delusional idiot. God knows why he chose this forum to dribble his nonsense over. But just ignore the cunt.
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SaintK wrote: Thu Mar 06, 2025 7:07 pm
Gumboot wrote: Thu Mar 06, 2025 6:35 pm :thumbup:

Modding at its finest.

Yes, Firewater's a delusional idiot. God knows why he chose this forum to dribble his nonsense over. But just ignore the cunt.
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Could folk not quote his so I don’t have to read his drivel? Ta
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yermum wrote: Thu Mar 06, 2025 7:19 pm Could folk not quote his so I don’t have to read his drivel? Ta
Sometimes, foot in mouth syndrome might apply.
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yermum wrote: Thu Mar 06, 2025 7:19 pm Could folk not quote his so I don’t have to read his drivel? Ta
Who? Zapp?
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