President Trump and US politics catchall

[Uncle fester]

National guard being sent to LA and marines "on standby".

White house are really determined to see this one kick off.

[Flockwitt]

It's disgusting. Visa over-stayers and people with meaningful employment bring troops and machine guns onto the streets.

[Hal Jordan]

National guard being sent to LA and marines "on standby".

White house are really determined to see this one kick off.

In direct violation of the Constitution, but it's what people voted for, so it's all.OK.

Speed running doctatirship.

[Uncle fester]

Note that there's no riots and the violence is only from the ICE agents. They really are desperate to provoke a "Reichstag fire" incident.

Good post on Reddit summing up where this is potentially heading.

Well I think they are figuring it out. Go into urban centers with this militarized secret group of thugs that kidnaps people off the streets.

Rips mothers away from their children in broad daylight then drives off in unmarked kidnapper vans leaving a community horrified at what’s happening in their neighborhoods…

Rinse and repeat until the protestors come out. Then you agitate them and escalate. (They are an easy mark… it will work)…

Then you’ve got “insurrections” in all the blue voting centers of the country.

Insurrection Act invocation. Martial law in blue voting centers declared. And you can suspend habeus corpus and start disappearing citizens too (not just non citizens).

At that point? You’ve removed the blue voting populations from the democracy, and you can turn the country into a Russian style or CCP style one-party “people’s republic” that votes in a dictator for life.

Then Trump, finally, has what he covets so badly. The authoritarian dictatorial rule that guys like Xi, Putin, MBS and Kim Jung-un have.

He’s like a spoiled child that sees another child with a toy he wants… except in this case the toy is getting to be a dictator.

And if you think it's far fetched, have a look at the books written under Hegseth's name.

[dpedin]

Note that there's no riots and the violence is only from the ICE agents. They really are desperate to provoke a "Reichstag fire" incident.

Good post on Reddit summing up where this is potentially heading.

Well I think they are figuring it out. Go into urban centers with this militarized secret group of thugs that kidnaps people off the streets.

Rips mothers away from their children in broad daylight then drives off in unmarked kidnapper vans leaving a community horrified at what’s happening in their neighborhoods…

Rinse and repeat until the protestors come out. Then you agitate them and escalate. (They are an easy mark… it will work)…

Then you’ve got “insurrections” in all the blue voting centers of the country.

Insurrection Act invocation. Martial law in blue voting centers declared. And you can suspend habeus corpus and start disappearing citizens too (not just non citizens).

At that point? You’ve removed the blue voting populations from the democracy, and you can turn the country into a Russian style or CCP style one-party “people’s republic” that votes in a dictator for life.

Then Trump, finally, has what he covets so badly. The authoritarian dictatorial rule that guys like Xi, Putin, MBS and Kim Jung-un have.

He’s like a spoiled child that sees another child with a toy he wants… except in this case the toy is getting to be a dictator.

Agree with this! What the loons and racists in Trumps team want is a summer of riots across the big cities in the US and a manufactured excuse to send in the troops and establish some sort of martial law. I expect the Proud Boys and the like to be drafted in to 'help' with crowd control etc. Meanwhile Trump will have his Moscow/Pyongyang style parade of toy soldiers and shiny tanks and missiles. I fully expect him to award himself lots and lots of shiny medals to wear at the parade!

The US is lost!

[Uncle fester]

LAPD (not exactly bastions of normality) have stated that these are protests, not riots.

So nobody in California wants troops there. This is entirely generated by the white house.

[Flockwitt]

The LA police commissioner has thanked the protesters for their peaceful use of their First Ammendment rights.

[sockwithaticket]

Trump has also been waffling about withdrawing federal funding from California, which has prompted Govenor Newsome to point out the extent of California's net contribution to the federal budget and that he might well just stop sending California's money in.

Meanwhile in nearby Arizona.
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/ic ... rcna211599

That's what comes of indiscriminately grabbing up anyone latino looking and hopefully this sort of thing will discourage other law enforcement agencies from supporting ICE operations. Some have seemed all too willing to back them up.

[Hal Jordan]

LAPD (not exactly bastions of normality) have stated that these are protests, not riots.

So nobody in California wants troops there. This is entirely generated by the white house.

Like the Administration gives a shit about what Californians want. And the Valley tech broligarchy will be confident their money amd soft power will protect them from Trump. It won't happen to them. Far too smart.

[tabascoboy]

Meanwhile the threat from a small localised protest that could be used as an excuse to enact martial law due to so-called national insurrection is clearly a massive danger to POTUS, so much so that he went to a UCF fight yesterday and had to endure a viciously hostile crowd

[Hal Jordan]

It's such a scummy sport.

[geordie_6]

He's officially deployed the National Guard to LA.

https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential ... functions/

As someone on Reddit pointed out, he's essentially declared martial law without using those terms. No time limit, no cap on troop numbers, no specific geographical area and no judicial oversight.

[Biffer]

He's officially deployed the National Guard to LA.

https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential ... functions/

As someone on Reddit pointed out, he's essentially declared martial law without using those terms. No time limit, no cap on troop numbers, no specific geographical area and no judicial oversight.

He’s also threatened Newsome with withholding federal funding from California. Newsome replied that they might just stop sending taxes to the federal government if that’s the case. Which would bankrupt the US federal govt very, very quickly.

[geordie_6]

He's officially deployed the National Guard to LA.

https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential ... functions/

As someone on Reddit pointed out, he's essentially declared martial law without using those terms. No time limit, no cap on troop numbers, no specific geographical area and no judicial oversight.

He’s also threatened Newsome with withholding federal funding from California. Newsome replied that they might just stop sending taxes to the federal government if that’s the case. Which would bankrupt the US federal govt very, very quickly.

Feels like that would hurtle us towards the civil war phase of this administration.

[tabascoboy]

He's officially deployed the National Guard to LA.

https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential ... functions/

As someone on Reddit pointed out, he's essentially declared martial law without using those terms. No time limit, no cap on troop numbers, no specific geographical area and no judicial oversight.

He was gabbling on about sending marines in too, which is actually unlawful without Congressional approval

The Posse Comitatus Act bars federal troops from participating in civilian law enforcement except when expressly authorized by law. This 143-year-old law embodies an American tradition that sees military interference in civilian affairs as a threat to both democracy and personal liberty. However, recent events have revealed dangerous gaps in the law’s coverage that Congress must address.

https://www.brennancenter.org/our-work/ ... -explained

[Flockwitt]

These actions by ICE were on 3 businesses:

The agents served a search warrant and were looking for “fictitious employee documents,”.

Which all things considered I'd reckon the timing is, ah, convenient. Trump wanting another set of headlines other than the end of the bromance and the big beautiful bill.

[Niegs]

Newsom calls out Trump on the news: https://bsky.app/profile/acyn.bsky.soci ... 5eqr53y52z

[Flockwitt]

The Latino's for Trump head honcho is now getting just a little bit of buyer's remorse, she's publicly 'sternly rebuked' President Trump.

[Flockwitt]

Tariffs hurting China! China's exports to the USA down by 10% from May last year!

Ah, actually China's total exports rose by 4% comparing May 2024 to May 2025.

[Kiwias]

Newsom calls out Trump on the news: https://bsky.app/profile/acyn.bsky.soci ... 5eqr53y52z

He also points out the hypocrisy of Kristi Noem

[Flockwitt]

By the way, in amongst all this other hooplah did everybody pick up on the fact the Supreme Court said it was fine for DOGE to poke around in people's social security records?

[Hal Jordan]

By the way, in amongst all this other hooplah did everybody pick up on the fact the Supreme Court said it was fine for DOGE to poke around in people's social security records?

No, but that's half the point of the kerfuffle.

[Flockwitt]

By the way, in amongst all this other hooplah did everybody pick up on the fact the Supreme Court said it was fine for DOGE to poke around in people's social security records?

No, but that's half the point of the kerfuffle.

And that big oil has joined the electric sector in condeming the gutting of the Biden energy credits? That's put the two-faced congressmen of the big beautiful bill in a real bind.

[sockwithaticket]

Tariffs hurting China! China's exports to the USA down by 10% from May last year!

Ah, actually China's total exports rose by 4% comparing May 2024 to May 2025.

It's really scary just how irrelevant the truth is now. If journalists had an ounce of integrity left, they simply wouldn't platform him when he's saying bullshit like "eggs have come down 400%" (not an exaggeration) or utterly fictious low gas prices. At the very least that reporting would be very different in tone - 'Today President Trump falsely claimed that gas prices have reduced to *insert figure*, when they average price is actually *insert figure*.'

[Rhubarb & Custard]

By the way, in amongst all this other hooplah did everybody pick up on the fact the Supreme Court said it was fine for DOGE to poke around in people's social security records?

Is there sensible content on why they need the records to modernise systems and/or detect potential fraud? I'm not sold even if there was I think that's why Musk and/or DOGE want the records, but could there be a reasonable claim therein?

[sockwithaticket]

In a completely different version of facts don't matter, 8 States are introducing legislation to ban chemtrails. They're trying to ban the fictious product of a conspiracy theory because the politicians are either personally mired in a conspiracy-based false reality (which becomes increasingly plausible when even over her we see the online alt right, Twitter-based priorities of Badenoch) or are stringing along a voter base that is.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/202 ... egislation

[Guy Smiley]

Wow. When an empire goes tits up, it does it in a hurry.

[Flockwitt]

By the way, in amongst all this other hooplah did everybody pick up on the fact the Supreme Court said it was fine for DOGE to poke around in people's social security records?

Is there sensible content on why they need the records to modernise systems and/or detect potential fraud? I'm not sold even if there was I think that's why Musk and/or DOGE want the records, but could there be a reasonable claim therein?

Yep, it's exactly that, 3 sensible fraud related reasons why it should be allowed (and strong disent from the 3 judges opposed noting the risks).

[Rhubarb & Custard]

By the way, in amongst all this other hooplah did everybody pick up on the fact the Supreme Court said it was fine for DOGE to poke around in people's social security records?

Is there sensible content on why they need the records to modernise systems and/or detect potential fraud? I'm not sold even if there was I think that's why Musk and/or DOGE want the records, but could there be a reasonable claim therein?

Yep, it's exactly that, 3 sensible fraud related reasons why it should be allowed (and strong disent from the 3 judges opposed noting the risks).

Is there content behind what they're trying to do that makes sense, or is simply what looks a plausible request?

I don't for instance see why a lot of data can't be scrubbed prior to make it available and then you work on models. And whatever is developed can be fed back into relevant agencies without cutting across whatever passes for various rights to privacy

What about the live data is driving their needs, do they even know what they need?

[Flockwitt]

Is there sensible content on why they need the records to modernise systems and/or detect potential fraud? I'm not sold even if there was I think that's why Musk and/or DOGE want the records, but could there be a reasonable claim therein?

Yep, it's exactly that, 3 sensible fraud related reasons why it should be allowed (and strong disent from the 3 judges opposed noting the risks).

Is there content behind what they're trying to do that makes sense, or is simply what looks a plausible request?

I don't for instance see why a lot of data can't be scrubbed prior to make it available and then you work on models. And whatever is developed can be fed back into relevant agencies without cutting across whatever passes for various rights to privacy

What about the live data is driving their needs, do they even know what they need?

All good questions but I didn't get the full details, just the usual click bait summary.

[Rhubarb & Custard]

Yep, it's exactly that, 3 sensible fraud related reasons why it should be allowed (and strong disent from the 3 judges opposed noting the risks).

Is there content behind what they're trying to do that makes sense, or is simply what looks a plausible request?

I don't for instance see why a lot of data can't be scrubbed prior to make it available and then you work on models. And whatever is developed can be fed back into relevant agencies without cutting across whatever passes for various rights to privacy

What about the live data is driving their needs, do they even know what they need?

All good questions but I didn't get the full details, just the usual click bait summary.

hardly the only question I'd have, which is why I'm wondering if there is sensible actual content behind what they're trying to do. because there might be issues I've flown straight past, and they might not be full of it

[Uncle fester]

Just the usual casual shooting of journalists with rubber bullets.

https://www.reddit.com/r/nextfuckinglevel/s/ghht72y6YV

[dpedin]

Just the usual casual shooting of journalists with rubber bullets.

https://www.reddit.com/r/nextfuckinglevel/s/ghht72y6YV

I saw that and couldn't believe it! Unfeckinbelivable! This is surely a crime, even in gun toting US, and the cop/paramilitary involved must be arrested and convicted. However in Magaland no doubt he will be paraded at the White House as a hero fighting bravely against the left wing agitator infiltrators from that well known Communist dictatorship of Australia and will be given a nice big red hat and a shiny plastic medal by the Tango Twat!

This is a battle now between President and States. Trump is desperate to strip the States of their power and influence and this manufactured 'crisis' has been carefully planned and implemented. He is desperate to cut Newsom off at the knees and hold his severed head in the air to frighten all the other State Governors into submission. Newsom and the folk of California must win this battle!

[Lobby]

Just the usual casual shooting of journalists with rubber bullets.

https://www.reddit.com/r/nextfuckinglevel/s/ghht72y6YV

I saw that and couldn't believe it! Unfeckinbelivable! This is surely a crime, even in gun toting US, and the cop/paramilitary involved must be arrested and convicted. However in Magaland no doubt he will be paraded at the White House as a hero fighting bravely against the left wing agitator infiltrators from that well known Communist dictatorship of Australia and will be given a nice big red hat and a shiny plastic medal by the Tango Twat!

This is a battle now between President and States. Trump is desperate to strip the States of their power and influence and this manufactured 'crisis' has been carefully planned and implemented. He is desperate to cut Newsom off at the knees and hold his severed head in the air to frighten all the other State Governors into submission. Newsom and the folk of California must win this battle!

A British photojournalist was also shot with a rubber bullet and appears to have been more seriously injured than the Australian as he's going to have surgery on the wound to his leg.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/202 ... hal-rounds

[Flockwitt]

Some useful pointers on the big beautiful bill here. There is some pro-growth stuff that would normally get bi-partisan support you'd imagine. The balancing act issues still need to be balanced of course.

But the real kicker is the graph in the middle regards who actually benefits. Once again driving the basic problem in western democracies - the wealth gap, the rich getting richer.

https://us.yahoo.com/finance/news/senat ... 00831.html

[sockwithaticket]

Just the usual casual shooting of journalists with rubber bullets.

https://www.reddit.com/r/nextfuckinglevel/s/ghht72y6YV

I saw that and couldn't believe it! Unfeckinbelivable! This is surely a crime, even in gun toting US, and the cop/paramilitary involved must be arrested and convicted. However in Magaland no doubt he will be paraded at the White House as a hero fighting bravely against the left wing agitator infiltrators from that well known Communist dictatorship of Australia and will be given a nice big red hat and a shiny plastic medal by the Tango Twat!

This is a battle now between President and States. Trump is desperate to strip the States of their power and influence and this manufactured 'crisis' has been carefully planned and implemented. He is desperate to cut Newsom off at the knees and hold his severed head in the air to frighten all the other State Governors into submission. Newsom and the folk of California must win this battle!

A British photojournalist was also shot with a rubber bullet and appears to have been more seriously injured than the Australian as he's going to have surgery on the wound to his leg.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/202 ... hal-rounds

A reminder that rubber bullets, bean bag rounds and such had to be rebranded from non-lethal to less lethal. They can still do some serious damage and I vividly recall the horrific pictures coming out of black lives matter protests in the US a few years ago including some grisly eye injuries.

[Guy Smiley]

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/202 ... hal-rounds

Stern said protesters appeared to be “very angry” and chanting slogans including “Ice out of LA!”

“There’s a lot of large Hispanic population in Paramount,” Stern said. “They gave the impression from what they were chanting that it was their town and they didn’t want Ice there.”

Life and art finally collide...https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0092690/?ref_=mv_close

[laurent]

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/202 ... hal-rounds

Stern said protesters appeared to be “very angry” and chanting slogans including “Ice out of LA!”

“There’s a lot of large Hispanic population in Paramount,” Stern said. “They gave the impression from what they were chanting that it was their town and they didn’t want Ice there.”

Life and art finally collide...https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0092690/?ref_=mv_close

An Australian journalist was also shot at the end of her report (on camera)...

Clearly another dangerous lefty ready to throw a German grenade at the police...

[geordie_6]

He's officially deployed the National Guard to LA.

https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential ... functions/

As someone on Reddit pointed out, he's essentially declared martial law without using those terms. No time limit, no cap on troop numbers, no specific geographical area and no judicial oversight.

He was gabbling on about sending marines in too, which is actually unlawful without Congressional approval

The Posse Comitatus Act bars federal troops from participating in civilian law enforcement except when expressly authorized by law. This 143-year-old law embodies an American tradition that sees military interference in civilian affairs as a threat to both democracy and personal liberty. However, recent events have revealed dangerous gaps in the law’s coverage that Congress must address.

https://www.brennancenter.org/our-work/ ... -explained

Gabbling no longer, they are activating and deploying 700 marines to LA, "whilst activating more National Guard".

[Slick]

He's officially deployed the National Guard to LA.

https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential ... functions/

As someone on Reddit pointed out, he's essentially declared martial law without using those terms. No time limit, no cap on troop numbers, no specific geographical area and no judicial oversight.

He was gabbling on about sending marines in too, which is actually unlawful without Congressional approval

The Posse Comitatus Act bars federal troops from participating in civilian law enforcement except when expressly authorized by law. This 143-year-old law embodies an American tradition that sees military interference in civilian affairs as a threat to both democracy and personal liberty. However, recent events have revealed dangerous gaps in the law’s coverage that Congress must address.

https://www.brennancenter.org/our-work/ ... -explained

Gabbling no longer, they are activating and deploying 700 marines to LA, "whilst activating more National Guard".

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