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Guy Smiley wrote: Wed Jun 11, 2025 3:33 am Those quirky Californians and their sense of humour...

Its a big time fail.
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Kiwias wrote: Tue Jun 10, 2025 10:39 pm
SaintK wrote: Tue Jun 10, 2025 4:23 pm This is all getting quite chilling.
Pete Hegseth has told the House committee that he’s anticipating military personnel to stay in Los Angeles for 60 days to “ensure that those rioters, looters and thugs on the other side assaulting our police officers know that we’re not going anywhere”.
A letter sent from Noem to Hegseth on Sunday, obtained by the Chronicle, requested that the Pentagon give “Direction to DoD forces to either detain, just as they would at any federal facility guarded by military, lawbreakers under Title 18 until they can be arrested and processed by federal law enforcement, or arrest them.”
All this dedication to the men and women in blue, yet they were absolutely fine with Trump pardoning the thugs who beat and injured well over 100 policemen on 6 Jan, directly causing the death of four (IIRC). Fucking hypocrits!!
Now you're making stuff up. Or naively believing lies by the lying mainstream media

and thats the issue TDS sufferers have got. This has failed big time (who is President) but they keep on doing the same.
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Kiwias wrote: Wed Jun 11, 2025 3:44 am
mat the expat wrote: Wed Jun 11, 2025 2:57 am
Guy Smiley wrote: Tue Jun 10, 2025 11:29 pm
Those bullets are supposed to be shot into the ground to ricochet up and lose power

What a cunt
Adding to their cuntiness is the total disregard for the well-being of the person they shot.
Its not good but she walked away. Unlike Ashli Babbitt. (The 5 million settlement does not replace a life)
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Firewater wrote: Wed Jun 11, 2025 4:44 am
Kiwias wrote: Tue Jun 10, 2025 10:39 pm All this dedication to the men and women in blue, yet they were absolutely fine with Trump pardoning the thugs who beat and injured well over 100 policemen on 6 Jan, directly causing the death of four (IIRC). Fucking hypocrits!!
Now you're making stuff up. Or naively believing lies by the lying mainstream media

and thats the issue TDS sufferers have got. This has failed big time (who is President) but they keep on doing the same.
Which part of my statement is made-up?
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Firewater wrote: Wed Jun 11, 2025 4:48 am
Kiwias wrote: Wed Jun 11, 2025 3:44 am
mat the expat wrote: Wed Jun 11, 2025 2:57 am

Those bullets are supposed to be shot into the ground to ricochet up and lose power

What a cunt
Adding to their cuntiness is the total disregard for the well-being of the person they shot.
Its not good but she walked away. Unlike Ashli Babbitt. (The 5 million settlement does not replace a life)
She’s not dead so it’s fine? That’s the best you’ve got? Prick.
And are there two g’s in Bugger Off?
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We are probably in the key stages of the war now - the big and possibly final big battle is now President v States. The Senate and House of Representatives have been completely castrated and the courts/judiciary are struggling to keep up and are well behind the curve in trying to rule what is legal or not. Trump is successfully tying the courts up in knots with shed loads of appeals and pushing his lack of compliance close to the wire. Meanwhile Trump is trying hard, and probably successfully, to ensure the Military is on his side and will do his dirty work for him, it's why he is in Fort Bragg. He is using ICE to stoke up local communities and in particular the Mexicans/latinos communities in order to justify sending in the National Guard and the Army. He will then justify his military actions to his racist KKK followers as a battle against the 'foreign' invaders of their country (no irony there then!). His North Korean style parade on Saturday is essentially a clarion call to his MAGA nutters and a challenge to his opponents. He will use any demonstrations on the day as an excuse to go in hard and heavy with the army and tanks on the street. He sees Saturday as his day to take complete control and proclaim he is now Emperor of the US. Trump needs to have this all done and dusted before any mid term elections in 2026 so I expect him to be successful and things will move quickly from then on. He will then start finalizing the serious discussions to divi up the world with his fellow dictators Putin, China, etc and the likes of Ukraine will quickly become collateral damage in all of this. The future of Europe as we know it is in serious danger.

The US is lost and we will all need more than Tin Foil Hats with what's to come in the future! Welcome President Krasnov!
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Marky Mark will take him out with a long gun.
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Biffer wrote: Wed Jun 11, 2025 6:55 am
Firewater wrote: Wed Jun 11, 2025 4:48 am
Kiwias wrote: Wed Jun 11, 2025 3:44 am

Adding to their cuntiness is the total disregard for the well-being of the person they shot.
Its not good but she walked away. Unlike Ashli Babbitt. (The 5 million settlement does not replace a life)
She’s not dead so it’s fine? That’s the best you’ve got? Prick.
To the best of my recollection, Babbitt was not walking home like the lass in LA who was shot. She was part of a violent insurrection trying to overthrow the results of a fair election or do I misunderstand the situation?
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Meanwhile, the Southern Baptists have voted to push same sex marriage to the Supreme Court the way they did with Roe vs Wade. And they'll win.

Mixed race marriages after that, no doubt.

Meanwhile, the Democrats continue to acr as all "reasonable opposition" does in the face of dictatorship. Stern words and supine leadership leading to absolutely fuck all.
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History doesn't repeat itself etc. Damn well worth a read

https://archive.ph/apGDe
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Hal Jordan wrote: Wed Jun 11, 2025 8:06 am Meanwhile, the Southern Baptists have voted to push same sex marriage to the Supreme Court the way they did with Roe vs Wade. And they'll win.

Mixed race marriages after that, no doubt.

Meanwhile, the Democrats continue to acr as all "reasonable opposition" does in the face of dictatorship. Stern words and supine leadership leading to absolutely fuck all.

Thing is, Trump is from New York, he doesn't give a fuck about same sex marriage, just as he didn't give a fuck about abortion, in fact when asked if any previous partners had terminations he refused to answer. He only cares about power and he will play to any base that will consolidate that power, he incited an insurrection that resulted in the death mentioned above, he doesn't care - this is the guy who called US combat soldiers "losers" - but her death proved to be useful to him so he used it to stir up antagonism among his followers.
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Photojournalist deliberately shot in the head with a rubber bullet.

Image

Another photo journalist, Linda Tirado, is dying from the traumatic brain injury she suffered in 2020 after Minneapolis police did the same thing to her. She was unlucky enough to get hit in and lose an eye.

The police know full well how they're supposed to use those munitions and it's not to shoot directly at people, especially not at head height. They are wilfully causing harm because they know there'll be no repurcussions.
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lemonhead wrote: Wed Jun 11, 2025 8:12 am History doesn't repeat itself etc. Damn well worth a read

https://archive.ph/apGDe
Cheers. :thumbup:
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Kiwias wrote: Wed Jun 11, 2025 7:49 am
Biffer wrote: Wed Jun 11, 2025 6:55 am
Firewater wrote: Wed Jun 11, 2025 4:48 am

Its not good but she walked away. Unlike Ashli Babbitt. (The 5 million settlement does not replace a life)
She’s not dead so it’s fine? That’s the best you’ve got? Prick.
To the best of my recollection, Babbitt was not walking home like the lass in LA who was shot. She was part of a violent insurrection trying to overthrow the results of a fair election or do I misunderstand the situation?
Violent insurrection :crazy:. Violence for the loony left is walking around a building. Except when its their side, anything at all is just a peaceful protest

The evil lying Maxists have lost, thank God. Trump has shone a light on their behaviour and the people have turned. Not all but enough.
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Hal Jordan wrote: Wed Jun 11, 2025 8:06 am Meanwhile, the Southern Baptists have voted to push same sex marriage to the Supreme Court the way they did with Roe vs Wade. And they'll win.

Mixed race marriages after that, no doubt.

Meanwhile, the Democrats continue to acr as all "reasonable opposition" does in the face of dictatorship. Stern words and supine leadership leading to absolutely fuck all.
The Democrats are finshed. They won't exist in 5 years. They have bene so bad since Trump took control again. Just stupid beyond beliefs.
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Firewater wrote: Wed Jun 11, 2025 11:19 am
Kiwias wrote: Wed Jun 11, 2025 7:49 am
Biffer wrote: Wed Jun 11, 2025 6:55 am

She’s not dead so it’s fine? That’s the best you’ve got? Prick.
To the best of my recollection, Babbitt was not walking home like the lass in LA who was shot. She was part of a violent insurrection trying to overthrow the results of a fair election or do I misunderstand the situation?
Violent insurrection :crazy:. Violence for the loony left is walking around a building. Except when its their side, anything at all is just a peaceful protest

The evil lying Maxists have lost, thank God. Trump has shone a light on their behaviour and the people have turned. Not all but enough.
Over 100 police officers injured and four dead. Sounds pretty violent to me.
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Tichtheid wrote: Wed Jun 11, 2025 8:22 am
Hal Jordan wrote: Wed Jun 11, 2025 8:06 am Meanwhile, the Southern Baptists have voted to push same sex marriage to the Supreme Court the way they did with Roe vs Wade. And they'll win.

Mixed race marriages after that, no doubt.

Meanwhile, the Democrats continue to acr as all "reasonable opposition" does in the face of dictatorship. Stern words and supine leadership leading to absolutely fuck all.

Thing is, Trump is from New York, he doesn't give a fuck about same sex marriage, just as he didn't give a fuck about abortion, in fact when asked if any previous partners had terminations he refused to answer. He only cares about power and he will play to any base that will consolidate that power, he incited an insurrection that resulted in the death mentioned above, he doesn't care - this is the guy who called US combat soldiers "losers" - but her death proved to be useful to him so he used it to stir up antagonism among his followers.
I would not be surprised in the least if Trump hasn't procured several abortions down the years.

And in these times, the rich will continue to arrange for "health trips" and similar for their pregnant lovers and family as required
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Gumboot wrote: Wed Jun 11, 2025 8:54 am
lemonhead wrote: Wed Jun 11, 2025 8:12 am History doesn't repeat itself etc. Damn well worth a read

https://archive.ph/apGDe
Cheers. :thumbup:
Nothing we didn't already know, but this guy gets it.



It's more his musings on the republican base I'm interested in - no doubt net result of years of deadlocked congress and a hyperpartisan shitshow playing out on the media while in the real world, people feel their livelihoods are under threat.
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Kiwias wrote: Wed Jun 11, 2025 11:29 am
Firewater wrote: Wed Jun 11, 2025 11:19 am
Kiwias wrote: Wed Jun 11, 2025 7:49 am

To the best of my recollection, Babbitt was not walking home like the lass in LA who was shot. She was part of a violent insurrection trying to overthrow the results of a fair election or do I misunderstand the situation?
Violent insurrection :crazy:. Violence for the loony left is walking around a building. Except when its their side, anything at all is just a peaceful protest

The evil lying Maxists have lost, thank God. Trump has shone a light on their behaviour and the people have turned. Not all but enough.
Over 100 police officers injured and four dead. Sounds pretty violent to me.
Ill focus on rth e deaths only

Except for one who was shot by an out of control policeman, the rest ... But you must know this.

Its like saying 4 of the crowd died from a rugby ,if they died afterwards from natural causes

https://eu.usatoday.com/story/news/poli ... 128040002/

WASHINGTON – The District of Columbia medical examiner on Wednesday released the cause of death for four of the five people who died at the Jan. 6 riot at the U.S. Capitol, but results are still pending for Capitol Police Officer Brian Sicknick.

Dr. Francisco Diaz, the district's chief medical examiner, announced the causes of deaths as:

• Ashli Babbitt, 35, died by homicide from a gunshot to the left shoulder. She was shot by a Capitol police officer while trying to climb through a door near the House chamber.

• Kevin Greeson, 55, died of natural causes from cardiovascular disease. Greeson, of Athens, Alabama, had a Twitter account in which he supported former President Donald Trump and profanely denounced his opponents.

• Benjamin Phillips, 50, died of natural causes from cardiovascular disease. According to the Philadelphia Inquirer, Phillips of Ringtown, Pennsylvania, was a computer programmer who founded a social media website for Trump supporters. He had organized a trip of several dozen people to the district.

• Roseanne Boyland, 34, died by accident from acute amphetamine intoxication. Boyland, of Georgia, wanted to be a sobriety counselor and followed QAnon conspiracies, her family said.

Results typically come within 90 days of a death, but Sicknick’s death remains under investigation.

“The cause and manner of death for Capitol Police Officer Brian Sicknick are pending,” the office said.

The cause of Sicknick’s death has been the subject of intense interest among lawmakers and authorities. Two men have been charged with spraying Sicknick with a chemical but not for causing his death.
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Sicknick is an unfortunate name in the circumstances.
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TedMaul wrote: Wed Jun 11, 2025 1:25 pm Sicknick is an unfortunate name in the circumstances.
He was 42 and also died of natural causes

Weird that three people died in this way. All under 60
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Why are we engaging with Dipshit?
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I will probably die mysteriously of natural causes in an hour.
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dpedin wrote: Wed Jun 11, 2025 7:31 am We are probably in the key stages of the war now - the big and possibly final big battle is now President v States. The Senate and House of Representatives have been completely castrated and the courts/judiciary are struggling to keep up and are well behind the curve in trying to rule what is legal or not. Trump is successfully tying the courts up in knots with shed loads of appeals and pushing his lack of compliance close to the wire. Meanwhile Trump is trying hard, and probably successfully, to ensure the Military is on his side and will do his dirty work for him, it's why he is in Fort Bragg. He is using ICE to stoke up local communities and in particular the Mexicans/latinos communities in order to justify sending in the National Guard and the Army. He will then justify his military actions to his racist KKK followers as a battle against the 'foreign' invaders of their country (no irony there then!). His North Korean style parade on Saturday is essentially a clarion call to his MAGA nutters and a challenge to his opponents. He will use any demonstrations on the day as an excuse to go in hard and heavy with the army and tanks on the street. He sees Saturday as his day to take complete control and proclaim he is now Emperor of the US. Trump needs to have this all done and dusted before any mid term elections in 2026 so I expect him to be successful and things will move quickly from then on. He will then start finalizing the serious discussions to divi up the world with his fellow dictators Putin, China, etc and the likes of Ukraine will quickly become collateral damage in all of this. The future of Europe as we know it is in serious danger.

The US is lost and we will all need more than Tin Foil Hats with what's to come in the future! Welcome President Krasnov!
Yeah agree. I think the yank relationship with democracy is done.

The press are pushing "LA is burning", soldiers + police are shooting + injuring unarmed civilians and the reaction from outside seems to be shrugged shoulders.

Unless there's an effective resistance like a general strike, project 2025's "this will be peaceful if the left allows it to be" has already intimidated the non-apathetic into silence and the rest don't seem to care.
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geordie_6 wrote: Wed Jun 11, 2025 3:03 pm Why are we engaging with Dipshit?
I wish people wouldn't, it rather defeats the point of having them on ignore.
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From the Alt National Parks Service account...
Tin soldiers and TACO coming,
We're finally on our own.
This summer I hear the drumming
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Niegs wrote: Wed Jun 11, 2025 6:14 pm From the Alt National Parks Service account...
Tin soldiers and TACO coming,
We're finally on our own.
This summer I hear the drumming
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Quite :clap:
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ICE has had its target for arrests tripled...

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/ices-t ... 025-06-10/

The White House has demanded the agency sharply increase arrests of migrants in the U.S. illegally, sources have told Reuters. That has meant changing tactics to achieve higher quotas of 3,000 arrests per day, far above the earlier target of 1,000 per day.
Community members and Democrats have pushed back, arguing that ICE is targeting people indiscriminately and stoking fear.
Tensions boiled over in Los Angeles over the weekend when protesters took to the streets after ICE arrested migrants at Home Depot stores, a garment factory and a warehouse, according to migrant advocates.
“It seems like they're just arresting people they think might be in the country without status and amenable to deportation,” said Julia Gelatt, associate director of the U.S. immigration policy program at the nonpartisan Migration Policy Institute.
The apparent shift further undercuts the Trump administration message that they are focused on the "worst of the worst" criminal offenders, and suggests they are pursuing more people solely on the basis of immigration violations.
Trump's border czar, Tom Homan, told Reuters in late May that the administration had deported around 200,000 people over four months. The total lags deportations during a similar period under former President Joe Biden, who faced higher levels of illegal immigration and quickly deported many recent crossers.
ICE’s operations appeared to intensify after Stephen Miller, a top White House official and the architect of Trump’s immigration agenda, excoriated senior ICE officials in a late May meeting over what he said were insufficient arrests.
During the meeting, Miller said ICE should pick up any immigration offenders and not worry about targeted operations that focus on criminals or other priorities for deportation, three people familiar with the matter said, requesting anonymity to share the details.
Miller said ICE should target stores where migrant workers often congregate, such as the home improvement retailer Home Depot and 7-Eleven convenience stores, two of the people said.
The message was “all about the numbers, not the level of criminality,” one of the people said.
Miller did not seem to be taking into account the complexities of immigration enforcement, one former ICE official said.
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TedMaul wrote: Wed Jun 11, 2025 3:22 pm I will probably die mysteriously of natural causes in an hour.
A massive ketamine overdose leading to spectacular loss of bladder control, leading to severe public humiliation, leading to death by seppuku? Important to note here we don't judge (and too you'd be considered a normie in Trump world, so there's that)
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Miller did not seem to be taking into account the complexities of immigration enforcement, one former ICE official said.
Yeah, no shit, he's a psychopathic neo-Nazi.

The amount of sane-washing the media does of these people is itself insane.
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Meanwhile, today's Faux News headlines read...
Hawley investigates left-wing group allegedly funding LA riots with government grants
and...
ICE arrests convicted criminals in Los Angeles as riots rage on
:crazy:
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sockwithaticket wrote: Wed Jun 11, 2025 8:43 pm
Miller did not seem to be taking into account the complexities of immigration enforcement, one former ICE official said.
Yeah, no shit, he's a psychopathic neo-Nazi.

The amount of sane-washing the media does of these people is itself insane.
You saw what happened to the ABC news reporter who told the truth on social media - immediately fired.
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Flockwitt wrote: Wed Jun 11, 2025 9:13 pm
sockwithaticket wrote: Wed Jun 11, 2025 8:43 pm
Miller did not seem to be taking into account the complexities of immigration enforcement, one former ICE official said.
Yeah, no shit, he's a psychopathic neo-Nazi.

The amount of sane-washing the media does of these people is itself insane.
You saw what happened to the ABC news reporter who told the truth on social media - immediately fired.
Just like all the Brown presenters on MSNBC when Der Fuhrer took over
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A good montage at the end (time stamped) showing Presidents' views on immigrants:




In tonight's episode, referencing the speech at Fort Brag(g) (base named after Trump was subtle), I had a sensible chuckle at the writers' latest nickname: Useless S Grant. :clap:
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The entire Fullbright Scholarship Board have resigned due to interference by the admin.

Sen. Rand Paul and family has been 'uninvited' to the Whitehouse picnic.

Hegseth intends to withhold the final $3.8billion from Biden's funds and has no intention of further funding for Ukraine this year.
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And why does the lunacy in the white house matter to us?

Because it's emboldening racists across the globe. In Ireland, they've been a nuisance blocking roundabouts and stuff but now they have graduated to openly harassing children going to school.

https://archive.ph/8PXgG
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Uncle fester wrote: Thu Jun 12, 2025 6:42 am And why does the lunacy in the white house matter to us?

Because it's emboldening racists across the globe. In Ireland, they've been a nuisance blocking roundabouts and stuff but now they have graduated to openly harassing children going to school.

https://archive.ph/8PXgG
...and Reform, whose leader openly courts Trump, currently have a 6 point lead in the polling for the next GE in the UK.

But of course they are not racists and it will be those opposing racism in all forms who are at fault when and if Reform, who are not racist, get in and start enacting not racist exclusion and not racist repatriation programs (sic)
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Tichtheid wrote: Thu Jun 12, 2025 7:34 am
Uncle fester wrote: Thu Jun 12, 2025 6:42 am And why does the lunacy in the white house matter to us?

Because it's emboldening racists across the globe. In Ireland, they've been a nuisance blocking roundabouts and stuff but now they have graduated to openly harassing children going to school.

https://archive.ph/8PXgG
...and Reform, whose leader openly courts Trump, currently have a 6 point lead in the polling for the next GE in the UK.

But of course they are not racists and it will be those opposing racism in all forms who are at fault when and if Reform, who are not racist, get in and start enacting not racist exclusion and not racist repatriation programs (sic)
Yup. There's two types of political approaches when you get into power: your either invest and grow the economy or you target immigrants & blame them for everything that's wrong. Guess which one is easier and cheaper?
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geordie_6 wrote: Wed Jun 11, 2025 3:03 pm Why are we engaging with Dipshit?
My bad. He is now on ignore.
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Sandstorm wrote: Thu Jun 12, 2025 8:09 am
Tichtheid wrote: Thu Jun 12, 2025 7:34 am
Uncle fester wrote: Thu Jun 12, 2025 6:42 am And why does the lunacy in the white house matter to us?

Because it's emboldening racists across the globe. In Ireland, they've been a nuisance blocking roundabouts and stuff but now they have graduated to openly harassing children going to school.

https://archive.ph/8PXgG
...and Reform, whose leader openly courts Trump, currently have a 6 point lead in the polling for the next GE in the UK.

But of course they are not racists and it will be those opposing racism in all forms who are at fault when and if Reform, who are not racist, get in and start enacting not racist exclusion and not racist repatriation programs (sic)
Yup. There's two types of political approaches when you get into power: your either invest and grow the economy or you target immigrants & blame them for everything that's wrong. Guess which one is easier and cheaper?
A reasonably well-known actress in Japan is openly calling for restrictions on foreigners and the government has announced some new regulations governing visa restrictions, this in a country known for not being immigrant-friendly in the first case.
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