In decades past, he would have "arranged his affairs" and head to his study with a cognac and a Webley .455 .brumbie_steve wrote: ↑Sun Jul 05, 2020 5:33 am The brits extraditing a prince so that the americans can prosecute and put him in jail? Not a fucking chance.
Ghislaine Maxwell arrested
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Or be on board a ship when it conveniently hits a mine, cf. Lord Kitchener.Ellafan wrote: ↑Tue Jul 07, 2020 3:01 pmIn decades past, he would have "arranged his affairs" and head to his study with a cognac and a Webley .455 .brumbie_steve wrote: ↑Sun Jul 05, 2020 5:33 am The brits extraditing a prince so that the americans can prosecute and put him in jail? Not a fucking chance.
Soooo.... what's the back story here?Hal Jordan wrote: ↑Tue Jul 07, 2020 3:59 pmOr be on board a ship when it conveniently hits a mine, cf. Lord Kitchener.Ellafan wrote: ↑Tue Jul 07, 2020 3:01 pmIn decades past, he would have "arranged his affairs" and head to his study with a cognac and a Webley .455 .brumbie_steve wrote: ↑Sun Jul 05, 2020 5:33 am The brits extraditing a prince so that the americans can prosecute and put him in jail? Not a fucking chance.
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Just looked up Kitchener upon reading you postHal Jordan wrote: ↑Tue Jul 07, 2020 3:59 pmOr be on board a ship when it conveniently hits a mine, cf. Lord Kitchener.Ellafan wrote: ↑Tue Jul 07, 2020 3:01 pmIn decades past, he would have "arranged his affairs" and head to his study with a cognac and a Webley .455 .brumbie_steve wrote: ↑Sun Jul 05, 2020 5:33 am The brits extraditing a prince so that the americans can prosecute and put him in jail? Not a fucking chance.
"According to A. N. Wilson his interests were not exclusively homosexual. "When the great field marshal stayed in aristocratic houses, the well informed young would ask servants to sleep across their bedroom threshold to impede his entrance. His compulsive objective was sodomy, regardless of their gender."[158]
Wikipedia.
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CrazyIslander wrote: ↑Wed Jul 08, 2020 3:39 amJust looked up Kitchener upon reading you postHal Jordan wrote: ↑Tue Jul 07, 2020 3:59 pmOr be on board a ship when it conveniently hits a mine, cf. Lord Kitchener.
"According to A. N. Wilson his interests were not exclusively homosexual. "When the great field marshal stayed in aristocratic houses, the well informed young would ask servants to sleep across their bedroom threshold to impede his entrance. His compulsive objective was sodomy, regardless of their gender."[158]
Wikipedia.
A.N. Wilson .... an interesting chap.mat the expat wrote: ↑Wed Jul 08, 2020 3:50 amCrazyIslander wrote: ↑Wed Jul 08, 2020 3:39 amJust looked up Kitchener upon reading you postHal Jordan wrote: ↑Tue Jul 07, 2020 3:59 pm
Or be on board a ship when it conveniently hits a mine, cf. Lord Kitchener.
"According to A. N. Wilson his interests were not exclusively homosexual. "When the great field marshal stayed in aristocratic houses, the well informed young would ask servants to sleep across their bedroom threshold to impede his entrance. His compulsive objective was sodomy, regardless of their gender."[158]
Wikipedia.
"While at Rugby, he wrote an article for the school magazine arguing that public schools should be abolished. "
"In the early 1990s, in the wake of the fatwa on Salman Rushdie and the continuing troubles in Northern Ireland, Wilson published a pamphlet, Against Religion"
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I wasn't judging the field Marshall at all. RIPmat the expat wrote: ↑Wed Jul 08, 2020 3:50 amCrazyIslander wrote: ↑Wed Jul 08, 2020 3:39 amJust looked up Kitchener upon reading you postHal Jordan wrote: ↑Tue Jul 07, 2020 3:59 pm
Or be on board a ship when it conveniently hits a mine, cf. Lord Kitchener.
"According to A. N. Wilson his interests were not exclusively homosexual. "When the great field marshal stayed in aristocratic houses, the well informed young would ask servants to sleep across their bedroom threshold to impede his entrance. His compulsive objective was sodomy, regardless of their gender."[158]
Wikipedia.
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He seems to cover a wide range of subjectsEllafan wrote: ↑Wed Jul 08, 2020 4:06 amA.N. Wilson .... an interesting chap.mat the expat wrote: ↑Wed Jul 08, 2020 3:50 amCrazyIslander wrote: ↑Wed Jul 08, 2020 3:39 am
Just looked up Kitchener upon reading you post
"According to A. N. Wilson his interests were not exclusively homosexual. "When the great field marshal stayed in aristocratic houses, the well informed young would ask servants to sleep across their bedroom threshold to impede his entrance. His compulsive objective was sodomy, regardless of their gender."[158]
Wikipedia.
"While at Rugby, he wrote an article for the school magazine arguing that public schools should be abolished. "
"In the early 1990s, in the wake of the fatwa on Salman Rushdie and the continuing troubles in Northern Ireland, Wilson published a pamphlet, Against Religion"
Read her indictment, its pretty grim, if she makes it to court, some big heads will be rolling soon..
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Holy shit - if any of that sticks, she is toast, or will sing like a canary.stemoc wrote: ↑Wed Jul 08, 2020 9:00 am Read her indictment, its pretty grim, if she makes it to court, some big heads will be rolling soon..
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If any of it sticks she will do 25 years.Knuckledragger wrote: ↑Wed Jul 08, 2020 9:49 amHoly shit - if any of that sticks, she is toast, or will sing like a canary.stemoc wrote: ↑Wed Jul 08, 2020 9:00 am Read her indictment, its pretty grim, if she makes it to court, some big heads will be rolling soon..
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If only Princey had stuck to the same age threshold.The sun god wrote: ↑Wed Jul 08, 2020 10:22 amIf any of it sticks she will do 25 years.Knuckledragger wrote: ↑Wed Jul 08, 2020 9:49 amHoly shit - if any of that sticks, she is toast, or will sing like a canary.stemoc wrote: ↑Wed Jul 08, 2020 9:00 am Read her indictment, its pretty grim, if she makes it to court, some big heads will be rolling soon..
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Durty little rich bitch....Ellafan wrote: ↑Wed Jul 08, 2020 10:59 amParagraph 4(b) suggests she liked a threesome.stemoc wrote: ↑Wed Jul 08, 2020 9:00 am Read her indictment, its pretty grim, if she makes it to court, some big heads will be rolling soon..
You have to ask, though ... where were "Victim One's" parents during the 4 years of shopping, holidays, and money?The sun god wrote: ↑Wed Jul 08, 2020 11:01 amDurty little rich bitch....Ellafan wrote: ↑Wed Jul 08, 2020 10:59 amParagraph 4(b) suggests she liked a threesome.stemoc wrote: ↑Wed Jul 08, 2020 9:00 am Read her indictment, its pretty grim, if she makes it to court, some big heads will be rolling soon..
redderneck wrote: ↑Wed Jul 08, 2020 10:43 amIf only Princey had stuck to the same age threshold.The sun god wrote: ↑Wed Jul 08, 2020 10:22 amIf any of it sticks she will do 25 years.Knuckledragger wrote: ↑Wed Jul 08, 2020 9:49 am
Holy shit - if any of that sticks, she is toast, or will sing like a canary.
He'd be a role model?Yeeb wrote: ↑Wed Jul 08, 2020 11:23 am
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Not too arsed about the welfare of their daughter, that's for sure. Probably made her a perfect choice to be groomed in the first place.Ellafan wrote: ↑Wed Jul 08, 2020 11:17 amYou have to ask, though ... where were "Victim One's" parents during the 4 years of shopping, holidays, and money?
That was a feature of their scheme.Ellafan wrote: ↑Wed Jul 08, 2020 11:17 amYou have to ask, though ... where were "Victim One's" parents during the 4 years of shopping, holidays, and money?
The girls that they victimised were all vulnerable to their predations. In the case of Palm Beach the spectrum was lower middle class kids from trailer parks who could use some money all the way down to kids from broken homes with criminal records and drug addiction issues.
The ones they victimised in NYC were the desperate to become famous, wannabe model types who were isolated and without family or a support system.
One of the stories in the book which shows how deliberate & calculating their scheme was when Epstein & Maxwell tried to befriend a 13 year old girl who was enrolled in a performing arts academy. She was an aspiring singer who had recently lost her father. He said he wanted to step into the void and financially support the family. Thankfully the mother was paying attention but a less alert parent could have been manipulated into giving Epstein & Maxwell access to their kid.
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How is her name pronounced?
I've heard some pronounced it "Glane" - to rhyme with plane.
Others pronounce it "Jizz-Lane".
"Jizz-Lane Max-Swell" is rather fitting.
I've heard some pronounced it "Glane" - to rhyme with plane.
Others pronounce it "Jizz-Lane".
"Jizz-Lane Max-Swell" is rather fitting.
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I'm surprised she hasn't had a freak solo twister accident and died. If she does some how get to court, I hope she goes proper nuclear, hoping for a plea bargain. Plenty of rich sick b*stards that need exposing and prosecuting, let's hope some justice finally gets served.
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I'm still trying to figure out which law the Windsor lad is supposed to have broken.
I didn't watch the programme. Did he slag off the queen or something?
I didn't watch the programme. Did he slag off the queen or something?
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The Andy situation is not too dissimilar to Julian Assange. The Yanks just want to interview him.
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He should head back to the Falklands to avoid them (and sweating)CrazyIslander wrote: ↑Thu Jul 09, 2020 11:15 pm The Andy situation is not too dissimilar to Julian Assange. The Yanks just want to interview him.
Assuming you were asking this question in good faith - Andrew is alleged to have had sex with a minor that Epstein trafficked around the world. There's an infamous picture of him at Maxwells house with his arms around her in 2000/01. This allegation was corroborated in the doc by one of the gardeners/janitors employed by Epstein on his island..OverThere wrote: ↑Thu Jul 09, 2020 10:44 pm I'm still trying to figure out which law the Windsor lad is supposed to have broken.
I didn't watch the programme. Did he slag off the queen or something?
What is damning for Andrew is that he remained friends with Epstein after he was convicted of a sex offense. Why would you do that unless that person had some dirt on you?
This question is relevant to my intereststroglodyte wrote: ↑Thu Jul 09, 2020 6:20 pm How is her name pronounced?
I've heard some pronounced it "Glane" - to rhyme with plane.
Others pronounce it "Jizz-Lane".
"Jizz-Lane Max-Swell" is rather fitting.
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Your one was 17, which is legal in UK.Hugo wrote: ↑Fri Jul 10, 2020 6:45 amAssuming you were asking this question in good faith - Andrew is alleged to have had sex with a minor that Epstein trafficked around the world. There's an infamous picture of him at Maxwells house with his arms around her in 2000/01. This allegation was corroborated in the doc by one of the gardeners/janitors employed by Epstein on his island..OverThere wrote: ↑Thu Jul 09, 2020 10:44 pm I'm still trying to figure out which law the Windsor lad is supposed to have broken.
I didn't watch the programme. Did he slag off the queen or something?
What is damning for Andrew is that he remained friends with Epstein after he was convicted of a sex offense. Why would you do that unless that person had some dirt on you?
I have seen no allegation that he was "in a position of trust" vis a vis her. So even if sex was involved, although unsavoury it was not breaking any law.
Damning? More like hearsay, innuendo, and gossip.
Well, that's a surpise.OverThere wrote: ↑Fri Jul 10, 2020 10:44 amYour one was 17, which is legal in UK.Hugo wrote: ↑Fri Jul 10, 2020 6:45 amAssuming you were asking this question in good faith - Andrew is alleged to have had sex with a minor that Epstein trafficked around the world. There's an infamous picture of him at Maxwells house with his arms around her in 2000/01. This allegation was corroborated in the doc by one of the gardeners/janitors employed by Epstein on his island..OverThere wrote: ↑Thu Jul 09, 2020 10:44 pm I'm still trying to figure out which law the Windsor lad is supposed to have broken.
I didn't watch the programme. Did he slag off the queen or something?
What is damning for Andrew is that he remained friends with Epstein after he was convicted of a sex offense. Why would you do that unless that person had some dirt on you?
I have seen no allegation that he was "in a position of trust" vis a vis her. So even if sex was involved, although unsavoury it was not breaking any law.
Damning? More like hearsay, innuendo, and gossip.
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It could well still be rape, and rape isn't suddenly made legal at 17
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Would Andy know that she was being forced to do it?
Doesn't matter. WTF was someone with his background think he was doing? Thick twat!!
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Yes, quite!fishfoodie wrote: ↑Fri Jul 10, 2020 12:42 pmI see a problem.
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You've got to like he thought he'd settled the matter with the interview he gave the BBC
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At the end of it he thought it went really well.Rhubarb & Custard wrote: ↑Fri Jul 10, 2020 4:02 pm You've got to like he thought he'd settled the matter with the interview he gave the BBC
I think that's a level of delusion you can only achieve after decades of peons blowing smoke up your arse.
He had sex with her on Epstein's island which is in the U.S. Virgin Islands where the age of consent is 18..OverThere wrote: ↑Fri Jul 10, 2020 10:44 amYour one was 17, which is legal in UK.Hugo wrote: ↑Fri Jul 10, 2020 6:45 amAssuming you were asking this question in good faith - Andrew is alleged to have had sex with a minor that Epstein trafficked around the world. There's an infamous picture of him at Maxwells house with his arms around her in 2000/01. This allegation was corroborated in the doc by one of the gardeners/janitors employed by Epstein on his island..OverThere wrote: ↑Thu Jul 09, 2020 10:44 pm I'm still trying to figure out which law the Windsor lad is supposed to have broken.
I didn't watch the programme. Did he slag off the queen or something?
What is damning for Andrew is that he remained friends with Epstein after he was convicted of a sex offense. Why would you do that unless that person had some dirt on you?
I have seen no allegation that he was "in a position of trust" vis a vis her. So even if sex was involved, although unsavoury it was not breaking any law.
Damning? More like hearsay, innuendo, and gossip.
Moreover, this wasn't consensual sex by any definition. Epstein trafficked her to his various properties around the world, had sex with her at them (which he paid for) and then demanded she have sex with various friends of his, such as Andrew. This is criminal rather than unsavoury.
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I remember coming across Prince Edward not finishing a military course and was frowned upon by the rest of the royals because of his weakness.fishfoodie wrote: ↑Fri Jul 10, 2020 5:42 pmAt the end of it he thought it went really well.Rhubarb & Custard wrote: ↑Fri Jul 10, 2020 4:02 pm You've got to like he thought he'd settled the matter with the interview he gave the BBC
I think that's a level of delusion you can only achieve after decades of peons blowing smoke up your arse.
I bet Edward is laughing now.
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And now she is trying to get bail on the grounds that Covid reduces contact with her lawyers and jail is dangerous.