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Jeff the Bear
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I reckon the Dragons would have put up more of a fight. Are thr Scarlets now officially the worst region in Wales?
Anywho, old Carwyn looks like an absolute unit. Would like to see him in a game/team on the front foot.
Anywho, old Carwyn looks like an absolute unit. Would like to see him in a game/team on the front foot.
Dregs are still comfortably the worst, but there's no doubting money has been squandered for personal gain, rather than rugby success.Jeff the Bear wrote: ↑Sat Jan 30, 2021 9:23 pm I reckon the Dragons would have put up more of a fight. Are thr Scarlets now officially the worst region in Wales?
Anywho, old Carwyn looks like an absolute unit. Would like to see him in a game/team on the front foot.
Sadly, the outcome of this will be a reversion to equal funding, rather than a favouring of the two teams who've been graduating pro calibre players in recent years
How did Costelow get on, accepting that he probably didn't get the best platform?Jeff the Bear wrote: ↑Sat Jan 30, 2021 9:23 pm I reckon the Dragons would have put up more of a fight. Are thr Scarlets now officially the worst region in Wales?
Anywho, old Carwyn looks like an absolute unit. Would like to see him in a game/team on the front foot.
Rather annoying but Adams had been sent home for the first 2 games. Can’t really have any arguments either.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-union/55925119
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-union/55925119
Fucking hell...that's a stupid bloody way to lose your test spot. Ah well, North is in better form at the moment, and I do enjoy watching Rees-Zammit.
WGJ is a good signing for the Scarlets. They could do with another loosehead though - when Rob Evans is back to fitness he might get back in the welsh squad with Wyn Jones and they still might be scraping the barrel with Phil Price, which isn't going to cut it against most sides these days. Unless they have a young loosehead coming through - is Mathias likely to be any good? Pretty unmemorable on the occasions I've seen him play.
WGJ is a good signing for the Scarlets. They could do with another loosehead though - when Rob Evans is back to fitness he might get back in the welsh squad with Wyn Jones and they still might be scraping the barrel with Phil Price, which isn't going to cut it against most sides these days. Unless they have a young loosehead coming through - is Mathias likely to be any good? Pretty unmemorable on the occasions I've seen him play.
Bit thin in the back three without Liam now. The Prophet Amos on the bench?RBear wrote: ↑Wed Feb 03, 2021 7:12 pm Rather annoying but Adams had been sent home for the first 2 games. Can’t really have any arguments either.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-union/55925119
Not loving the look of this side...backrow is lacking balance, midfield of Dixon-Roberts is all bosh (really highlights the lack of 13s in our squad - if one of the young wingers of Holmes for that matter could give 13 a go it'd improve our options massively).Dragons: Jordan Williams; Owen Jenkins, Jack Dixon, Jamie Roberts, Ashton Hewitt; Sam Davies, Rhodri Williams (capt); Brok Harris, Richard Hibbard, Lloyd Fairbrother, Ben Carter, Joe Maksymiw, Huw Taylor, Ben Fry, Harrison Keddie.
Replacements: Ellis Shipp, Greg Bateman, Chris Coleman, Joe Davies, Lewis Evans, Luke Baldwin, Josh Lewis, Aneurin Owen.
Connacht: John Porch; Peter Sullivan, Tom Daly, Peter Robb, Matt Healy; Jack Carty, Caolin Blade; Denis Buckley, Shane Delahunt, Finlay Bealham, Niall Murray, Gavin Thornbury, Paul Boyle (capt), Conor Oliver, Abraham Papali'i.
Replacements: Jonny Murphy, Jordan Duggan, Jack Aungier, Oisin Dowling, Eoghan Masterson, Kieran Marmion, Sean O'Brien, Alex Wootton.
Referee: Craig Evans (WRU)
Assistant referees: Ben Whitehouse, Adam Jones (both WRU)
TMO: Sean Brickell (WRU)
On the positive side, first choice half backs with Roberts at 12 so hopefully our kicking will be much improved, Jordan Williams at FB, Ben Fry back for what is an abrasive backrow (albeit unbalanced as I say), and good to see Bateman back on the bench. I think there is a fair chance that we end the game with a slightly better team than we start...Bateman on for Brok, Shipp on for Hibbs, Joe Davies on for Maksyimw and possibly even Owen on in the centre to give a bit more guile to get the ball wide.
I worry that Connacht will play a fast game which will be too much for some of the old legs, particularly in our front row, and Papali'i looks a bit of a monster from the little I've seen of him.
Wales officially name team to face Ireland
15. Leigh Halfpenny, 14. Louis Rees-Zammit, 13. George North, 12. Johnny Williams, 11. Hallam Amos, 10. Dan Biggar, 9. Tomos Williams, 1. Wyn Jones, 2. Ken Owens, 3. Tomas Francis, 4. Adam Beard, 5. Alun Wyn Jones, 6. Dan Lydiate, 7. Justin Tipuric, 8. Taulupe Faletau
At least he has been picked on form. I don’t like not seeing Jarrod in the 23. I like Sheedy but he’s too similar to Biggar to come on and change the game in my opinion.
Yeah - would have liked to see Jarrod involved, but at least Tomos is starting.
Don't mind the pack - Beard, Lydiate & Ken will add some grunt at least - although I think we might struggle when the replacement props are on against their front row subs - need Francis & Wyn Jones to play 60+ mins at least
I know, but it's a regressive move IMO and it's not like Lewis-Hughes played badly when he had his shot, so I didn't understand his total omission...plus Wainwright has been playing much more like himself recently, another good, young option. Not to mention Navidi who gives us so much more in terms of carrying, jackalling and impact. I appreciate that with Ken, Alun-Wyn and Navidi we'd have a lot of guys fresh back from injury, so I can understand not starting them all to some extent, but still, I don't love it.
As for 10. I agree.
Someone explain. If funding levels are determined by international representation, and representation is determined by domestic success, how are Cardiff supposed to earn more money if they butt fuck the morons from the west and still end up with one player starting vs the turks 4?
See I don’t think he needs results in the truest sense of the word. If you could see a gameplan that wasn’t being executed properly of see him blooding a lot of youngsters with an eye on 2023 I think he’d have a lot more slack.
Since he’s taken over the team have looked more and more lost, the defence coach has gone and we look worse than we did in 2007 (I wasn’t around for the 90’s). If we win but look terrible doing so with a 33 year old being brought in I’d argue that’s far worse than losing and looking promising with youngsters at this stage obviously they’d have to convert into wins at some point)
I think Pivac has used up a lot of good will at this point. People wanted to see more attack, even if it meant a little less in defence....but we got the less in defence, without the more in attack and that can only last for so long. We have to see progress...even if it's just glimpses.RBear wrote: ↑Fri Feb 05, 2021 2:10 pmSee I don’t think he needs results in the truest sense of the word. If you could see a gameplan that wasn’t being executed properly of see him blooding a lot of youngsters with an eye on 2023 I think he’d have a lot more slack.
Since he’s taken over the team have looked more and more lost, the defence coach has gone and we look worse than we did in 2007 (I wasn’t around for the 90’s). If we win but look terrible doing so with a 33 year old being brought in I’d argue that’s far worse than losing and looking promising with youngsters at this stage obviously they’d have to convert into wins at some point)
The gameplan never got going because we had no platform - the scrum was poor, the lineout was the worst I've seen it in years, and the work at the breakdown was bizarrely bad for us. At international level, with little time to think, the Gatland-Edwards gameplan was so simple that everyone knew what they were doing at all times...I think there's doubt in what they're doing now, and that results in that little bit of delay, a little less intensity, and we can't afford it.
The defence was a shambles and I can believe an acolyte of Edwards like Gethin will take it back to simple, aggressive messages that translate into unity and clarity. The set piece on the other hand will have to rely on individuals upping their game, because on the evidence of the autumn we're not going to out-think or out-coach other teams in that area.
On a more positive note, there's plenty of talent (and form) in the backs so get some of the platform right and we might look half decent.
He’s definitely lost some goodwill with myself. I was pretty positive with him coming in but like I say he’s been lost.
The fact you said we aren’t going to outthink or out coach anyone is grounds enough for giving him the boot without anything else. That’s what test rugby comes down to really. We have a best XV that’s as good as any in the world I think and a few promising youngsters as well. We need a coach who can help put us over the edge.
The fact you said we aren’t going to outthink or out coach anyone is grounds enough for giving him the boot without anything else. That’s what test rugby comes down to really. We have a best XV that’s as good as any in the world I think and a few promising youngsters as well. We need a coach who can help put us over the edge.
I get that but if we're focusing on 2023 then why are KO and AWJ in the team? Good for them if they prove me wrong but I find it hard to imagine they'll be first or second choice by then.RBear wrote: ↑Fri Feb 05, 2021 2:10 pmSee I don’t think he needs results in the truest sense of the word. If you could see a gameplan that wasn’t being executed properly of see him blooding a lot of youngsters with an eye on 2023 I think he’d have a lot more slack.
Since he’s taken over the team have looked more and more lost, the defence coach has gone and we look worse than we did in 2007 (I wasn’t around for the 90’s). If we win but look terrible doing so with a 33 year old being brought in I’d argue that’s far worse than losing and looking promising with youngsters at this stage obviously they’d have to convert into wins at some point)
Leadership and experience I’d say. Albeit it’s a bit wasted on this particular squad as there isn’t that many inexperienced players.
You need that blend but in Lydia yes case, yes he does have experience but he’s been out the squad for a few years and we have tips who could bring the youngsters along.
You need that blend but in Lydia yes case, yes he does have experience but he’s been out the squad for a few years and we have tips who could bring the youngsters along.
I was talking there specifically about the scrum and lineout. It may prove true about Pivac but I was mainly criticising Humphreys.RBear wrote: ↑Fri Feb 05, 2021 3:10 pm He’s definitely lost some goodwill with myself. I was pretty positive with him coming in but like I say he’s been lost.
The fact you said we aren’t going to outthink or out coach anyone is grounds enough for giving him the boot without anything else. That’s what test rugby comes down to really. We have a best XV that’s as good as any in the world I think and a few promising youngsters as well. We need a coach who can help put us over the edge.
I suppose it's just as well I'm not a coach, I'd just select whoever I think are my best players at that moment in time and bugger two or three years away. Did I say I'm 70+?RBear wrote: ↑Fri Feb 05, 2021 3:22 pm Leadership and experience I’d say. Albeit it’s a bit wasted on this particular squad as there isn’t that many inexperienced players.
You need that blend but in Lydia yes case, yes he does have experience but he’s been out the squad for a few years and we have tips who could bring the youngsters along.
Pivacs a shit coach and had no good will with me from day one. I've said before, if you give any team the sheer level of counter ball Beirne did and to a lesser extent cubby and barclay, you'll win, it was metronomic what that boy did.
As a result, the thick welsh decided that counter attack is a coachable thing(I would love to see stephen Jones' whiteboard where he predicted where beirne would turnover ball, and where the scramble defence would make a mistake as a result) and so slapped Jones and Pivac with contracts faster than me ending a 6 month dry spell.
As luck had it, when Beirne went, so did the scarlets chance of winning anything. But the west wales hype machine was in full swing, patchell, despite personifying a wounded girraffe when running was christened Wales' answer to Dan Carter, cubby as pocock and Pivac and Jones as Gatland and Smith.
But now we are stuck with that pile of shit. Deserving players like Jarrod, Lane, Domachowski, SLH and Halaholo are seeing there potential and hard work shit on, because one fat ex police officer has the introspective capability of, well, a fat ex police officer. I can't wait for the fat fucker to be gone.
I for one, can't wait for Ken Owens to show us his experience of carrying minus yards again
As a result, the thick welsh decided that counter attack is a coachable thing(I would love to see stephen Jones' whiteboard where he predicted where beirne would turnover ball, and where the scramble defence would make a mistake as a result) and so slapped Jones and Pivac with contracts faster than me ending a 6 month dry spell.
As luck had it, when Beirne went, so did the scarlets chance of winning anything. But the west wales hype machine was in full swing, patchell, despite personifying a wounded girraffe when running was christened Wales' answer to Dan Carter, cubby as pocock and Pivac and Jones as Gatland and Smith.
But now we are stuck with that pile of shit. Deserving players like Jarrod, Lane, Domachowski, SLH and Halaholo are seeing there potential and hard work shit on, because one fat ex police officer has the introspective capability of, well, a fat ex police officer. I can't wait for the fat fucker to be gone.
I for one, can't wait for Ken Owens to show us his experience of carrying minus yards again
Nothing seems to be going well for Pivac, why in the name fuckwittery did Josh go to a fucking pointless gender reveal party, when I first read that I thought what the Fuck is gender reveal party, never heard of it when I found out its trivial nature I could not believe anybody would 1 want to go to that shit and 2 put your international career in jeopardy.
Can you imagine sitting in front of Gats and Edwards and explaining that, Addams would have been told to fuck off for good.
anyway hard to see a win then a trip to Scotland we could lose the lot, if we a get battered up front then we're in a world of shit, hope the boys prove me wrong.
Can you imagine sitting in front of Gats and Edwards and explaining that, Addams would have been told to fuck off for good.
anyway hard to see a win then a trip to Scotland we could lose the lot, if we a get battered up front then we're in a world of shit, hope the boys prove me wrong.
Bizarre. The well known phrase or saying is "Who cares as long as it's healthy?".clive wrote: ↑Fri Feb 05, 2021 5:54 pm Nothing seems to be going well for Pivac, why in the name fuckwittery did Josh go to a fucking pointless gender reveal party, when I first read that I thought what the Fuck is gender reveal party, never heard of it when I found out its trivial nature I could not believe anybody would 1 want to go to that shit and 2 put your international career in jeopardy.
Can you imagine sitting in front of Gats and Edwards and explaining that, Addams would have been told to fuck off for good.
anyway hard to see a win then a trip to Scotland we could lose the lot, if we a get battered up front then we're in a world of shit, hope the boys prove me wrong.
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sockwithaticket
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For those interested and who might have been drooling over him last week, Ioan Lloyd isn't showing up nearly so well against competent opposition...
Game management et alsockwithaticket wrote: ↑Fri Feb 05, 2021 8:24 pm For those interested and who might have been drooling over him last week, Ioan Lloyd isn't showing up nearly so well against competent opposition...
Do me a favour, A fucking gender reveal what if through his dumb actions he infected other team members, it has NOTHING to do with the health of a baby, the fact remains most of us are staying away from group gatherings, why should he be any different.GogLais wrote: ↑Fri Feb 05, 2021 6:17 pmBizarre. The well known phrase or saying is "Who cares as long as it's healthy?".clive wrote: ↑Fri Feb 05, 2021 5:54 pm Nothing seems to be going well for Pivac, why in the name fuckwittery did Josh go to a fucking pointless gender reveal party, when I first read that I thought what the Fuck is gender reveal party, never heard of it when I found out its trivial nature I could not believe anybody would 1 want to go to that shit and 2 put your international career in jeopardy.
Can you imagine sitting in front of Gats and Edwards and explaining that, Addams would have been told to fuck off for good.
anyway hard to see a win then a trip to Scotland we could lose the lot, if we a get battered up front then we're in a world of shit, hope the boys prove me wrong.