The Official English Rugby Thread

[Saint]

Good game so far at the Ricoh

[sockwithaticket]

Anyone else nervous?

Always. Particularly so given the last time this match came to Twickenham. That one's going to live long in the nightmares.

[sockwithaticket]

Good game so far at the Ricoh

*Wasps hat on* No it isn't!

We're so blunt without Robson pulling the strings.

[Paddington Bear]

Think this clearout could be quite serious

[Oxbow]

Good game so far at the Ricoh

Sleightholme and Freeman have added a bit of zip to the side, good to see them both playing well.

[sockwithaticket]

Yellow for that. Needless and stupid.

[Paddington Bear]

Quite like the clampdown on cheapshots atm

[Saint]

2 yellows on two minutes for Wasps

[Oxbow]

Yellow for that. Needless and stupid.

And another.

[sockwithaticket]

Obviously I've got my bias, but that feels harsh, not necessarily consistent with what we see week in week out.

[Saint]

Sleights coming into the back of the ruck

Edit- sorry maul

[Oxbow]

That maul was a thing of beauty.

[sockwithaticket]

This is where we'll really miss Robson. He's managed a period like this for us before absolutely brilliantly.

[sockwithaticket]

Naiyaravoro vs. our 9 a couple of metres out. Predictable result.

[sockwithaticket]

I was about to seethe that the neck grab on Cardall had been ignored right in front of the ref. Thank you, TMO.

[sockwithaticket]

Surprisingly tense finish to the game given the first half. Wasps fucked a potentially game winning opportunity.

2 and a half minutes to play, scrum Wasps just inside their own half, 5 point gap.

Squeaky bum time.

[SaintK]

Dreadful kick by Umaga at the end returned by an equally bad one from Tuala
Saints just about deserved the win

[Oxbow]

That ended up closer than I expected after the first half. Umaga continues his shocking run of form. Still, good to know he's next up for England, top work Eddie.

[Torquemada 1420]

Still a toss up who are the biggest wasters: Bath or Glaws?

[sockwithaticket]

Both teams trying their best to lose, Saints the least retarded. Didn't score a point in the second half, but they didn't need to. Wasps left to rue at least 9 points of kickable pens ignored, twice being held up over the line and throwing a forward pass when Kibirige seemed to have a clear run in.

[sockwithaticket]

Dreadful kick by Umaga at the end returned by an equally bad one from Tuala
Saints just about deserved the win

Raggs has told me that Blackett wants our flyhalves to go for broke with kicks to touch. That instruction needs to be rescinded, it's resulting in an error too often.

[Kawazaki]

Imagine how devastating Goode's weaknesses must be not have joined them in becoming regular internationals.

The consolation of five Premiership winners medals and three European cup winners medals will help.

Imagine placing Ben Youngs on a pedestal just to try and 'win' an argument against a winner like that. That's Eddiesque madness.

Conceding, albeit tacitly, that the above players had flaws while acknowleding that they were able to have long international careers while another flawed player hasn't = placing Youngs on a pedestal now apparently. Good to know.

Touting the domestic medal hauls of players who aren't up to international standard is how the likes of Louis Deacon end up with 30 caps for England.

Deacon wasn't even first choice for his club for much of his time at Leicester. Martin Johnson would struggle to pick his nose unfortunately.

[Kawazaki]

Anyone else watching the Italian 9 and thinking wouldn't it be good if the England 9 played that well occasionally?

[Torquemada 1420]

Dreadful kick by Umaga at the end returned by an equally bad one from Tuala
Saints just about deserved the win

Raggs has told me that Blackett wants our flyhalves to go for broke with kicks to touch. That instruction needs to be rescinded, it's resulting in an error too often.

That's a tactic only when you need to go for broke or don't think the oppos are up to much. Need to believe in your set piece (lineout) game and if you don't, then you need to fix it.

[SaintK]

The consolation of five Premiership winners medals and three European cup winners medals will help.

Imagine placing Ben Youngs on a pedestal just to try and 'win' an argument against a winner like that. That's Eddiesque madness.

Conceding, albeit tacitly, that the above players had flaws while acknowleding that they were able to have long international careers while another flawed player hasn't = placing Youngs on a pedestal now apparently. Good to know.

Touting the domestic medal hauls of players who aren't up to international standard is how the likes of Louis Deacon end up with 30 caps for England.

Deacon wasn't even first choice for his club for much of his time at Leicester. Martin Johnson would struggle to pick his nose unfortunately.

Sarries we’ll beaten at home by Ealing I see

[Kawazaki]

Conceding, albeit tacitly, that the above players had flaws while acknowleding that they were able to have long international careers while another flawed player hasn't = placing Youngs on a pedestal now apparently. Good to know.

Touting the domestic medal hauls of players who aren't up to international standard is how the likes of Louis Deacon end up with 30 caps for England.

Deacon wasn't even first choice for his club for much of his time at Leicester. Martin Johnson would struggle to pick his nose unfortunately.

Sarries we’ll beaten at home by Ealing I see

Asset stripped and broken. The best academy in England gone too soon.

Ah well. As long as it makes everyone happy I guess that's what really counts.

[sockwithaticket]

Dreadful kick by Umaga at the end returned by an equally bad one from Tuala
Saints just about deserved the win

Raggs has told me that Blackett wants our flyhalves to go for broke with kicks to touch. That instruction needs to be rescinded, it's resulting in an error too often.

That's a tactic only when you need to go for broke or don't think the oppos are up to much. Need to believe in your set piece (lineout) game and if you don't, then you need to fix it.

Can only agree. If we can't make use of possession 10 - 15 m further away from their line, we've got serious issues.

[SaintK]

Deacon wasn't even first choice for his club for much of his time at Leicester. Martin Johnson would struggle to pick his nose unfortunately.

Sarries we’ll beaten at home by Ealing I see

Asset stripped and broken. The best academy in England gone too soon.

Ah well. As long as it makes everyone happy I guess that's what really counts.

Not everyone............................................but most I suspect

[geordie_6]

Anyone else nervous?

Me. Don't see this ending well for us, for some reason.

[Oxbow]

Strong tackle from Daly there, the useless shite.

[geordie_6]

Strong tackle from Daly there, the useless shite.

Absolute fucking turnstile there.

[Double]

England hamstrung by the fact that Youngs and Farrell won't (can't?) play more than two phases at a time. Before this match I wasn't sure what kind of player Lawrence is. It's 55 minutes in and I've still no clue.

[Saint]

England hamstrung by the fact that Youngs and Farrell won't (can't?) play more than two phases at a time. Before this match I wasn't sure what kind of player Lawrence is. It's 55 minutes in and I've still no clue.

Exactly. If this is the halfback pairing we might as well stick a couple of flankers in midfield

[geordie_6]

England hamstrung by the fact that Youngs and Farrell won't (can't?) play more than two phases at a time. Before this match I wasn't sure what kind of player Lawrence is. It's 55 minutes in and I've still no clue.

Not the best first impression from Robson there mind.

[Oxbow]

Robson doing his best to make Ben Youngs look world class so far

[sockwithaticket]

Eddie out. That was abject and the natural conclusion of his fetish for anti-rugby.

We didn't hit double figures for phases until minute 68. That's shameful.

Once they got ahead Scotland didn't need to do anything other than pin us back because we had no way to move up field ecept kick badly and repeatedly.

[Paddington Bear]

There’s not a single positive to that. The worst performance by an England side with talent I can remember

[sockwithaticket]

Dunno if you can even call it a performance, it's like we agreed to run a training session where we play defence for the duration.

[tc27]

We are a bit shit arent we.

[Oxbow]

The annoying thing is it's the same old stuff we've been moaning about for years, Eddie just seems too damn stubborn to do anything about it.