The Brexit Thread

[Rinkals]

Just found the first Brexit benefit

I just hope he doesn't come here.

Mind you, I'm pretty sure he would be very welcome in Capetown.

[fishfoodie]

No need to worry about food shortages folks; your Brexiteer has a solution.

[SaintK]

No need to worry about food shortages folks; your Brexiteer has a solution.

[tabascoboy]

No need to worry about food shortages folks; your Brexiteer has a solution.

Wonders if Toby's do spit-roasted Tories...

[JM2K6]

No surprise that Francois is escalating beyond his usual crimes...

[fishfoodie]

Does anyone know the WTO Tariff on Soylent Green ?

[Yeeb]

Soylent red white & blue surely ?

(Would still taste nicer than Irish food tbf)

[SaintK]

Latest ONS Export/Import figures not good!

[tabascoboy]

Ah but exports to non-EU countries rose by £0.2b, so that's all right then and proves it was all worthwhile!

[SaintK]

Ah but exports to non-EU countries rose by £0.2b, so that's all right then and proves it was all worthwhile!

You are Bimbo and I claim my 5 Euros

[tabascoboy]

Ah but exports to non-EU countries rose by £0.2b, so that's all right then and proves it was all worthwhile!

You are Bimbo and I claim my 5 Euros

Shit, outed...

[Hal Jordan]

Sadly, that's how it will be sold, and that's how the Tories' client press will report it.

[fishfoodie]

Clearly this is the best time to provoke a trade war with the EU over the NIP; & fuck up, not just your exports; but also your imports thru Dover.

[Insane_Homer]

[fishfoodie]

Yet another lie from the Bumblecunt; there are dozens of briefing papers on gov.uk making exactly this point; & they've been there for years; there's also the minor point that UK custom & agri officials have been enforcing these rules for decades.

[Rhubarb & Custard]

Yet another lie from the Bumblecunt; there are dozens of briefing papers on gov.uk making exactly this point; & they've been there for years; there's also the minor point that UK custom & agri officials have been enforcing these rules for decades.

Please, he probably didn't read those either.

[Rhubarb & Custard]

No need to worry about food shortages folks; your Brexiteer has a solution.

Wonders if Toby's do spit-roasted Tories...

Toby's on their sourcing of meat products to for instance pair with Yorkshire puddings: 'All of our suppliers, regardless of location, operate to strict EU animal welfare standards'

Francois doesn't look like he spends much time with his fingers down his throat but maybe this is the start of something for him

[sockwithaticket]

Yet another lie from the Bumblecunt; there are dozens of briefing papers on gov.uk making exactly this point; & they've been there for years; there's also the minor point that UK custom & agri officials have been enforcing these rules for decades.

Please, he probably didn't read those either.

Nor do his various ministers. I've mates in the civils service and they're deeply frustrated by the amount of Prep work they've done over the last few years that seems to be willfully ignored by the intended audience.

[fishfoodie]

Yet another lie from the Bumblecunt; there are dozens of briefing papers on gov.uk making exactly this point; & they've been there for years; there's also the minor point that UK custom & agri officials have been enforcing these rules for decades.

Please, he probably didn't read those either.

Nor do his various ministers. I've mates in the civils service and they're deeply frustrated by the amount of Prep work they've done over the last few years that seems to be willfully ignored by the intended audience.

Well; when a lie has no consequences; why bother telling the truth ?

... has the bumblecunt bothered to correct the lie he told in Parliament last week ?

[Marylandolorian]

I’m not an EU fan, but kudos to them for being so patient with these morons (bojo&co)

[fishfoodie]

I’m not an EU fan, but kudos to them for being so patient with these morons (bojo&co)

I think it's becoming increasingly obvious that the UK wants the EU to not ratify the deal, & will then blame the resultant WTO NO Deal, on the EU.

They really don't give a fuck, & will happily burn the country down.

[Sandstorm]

I’m not an EU fan, but kudos to them for being so patient with these morons (bojo&co)

I think it's becoming increasingly obvious that the UK wants the EU to not ratify the deal, & will then blame the resultant WTO NO Deal, on the EU.

They really don't give a fuck, & will happily burn the country down.

Was in Waitrose this afternoon and very nice girl on the till said there were serious shortages of cut roses and cat food - not a good idea to upset lonely Tory voters, Boris!!

[fishfoodie]

I’m not an EU fan, but kudos to them for being so patient with these morons (bojo&co)

I think it's becoming increasingly obvious that the UK wants the EU to not ratify the deal, & will then blame the resultant WTO NO Deal, on the EU.

They really don't give a fuck, & will happily burn the country down.

Was in Waitrose this afternoon and very nice girl on the till said there were serious shortages of cut roses and cat food - not a good idea to upset lonely Tory voters, Boris!!

The start of the bounce back for all those fishermen

[fishfoodie]

Remember the Independent UK rival to Galileo ?

Well it turns out, that the UK Taxpayer now owns 33% of a firm that is dedicated to providing Internet access to polar bears & penguins; because; (as the experts, & many who aren't experts; but can read a fucking prospectus said), the satellites that OneWeb were lofting, were never usable for GPS ......

OneWeb: Dominic Cummings and the £400m public bailout to rescue an imperilled satellite internet firm

Sky News reveals the full story of the taxpayer-funded rescue, that saw government doors open at speed despite Whitehall jitters.

This Thursday, three dozen satellites will be fired into space from a launch station in a desolate corner of eastern Russia, less than a hundred miles from the northern Chinese border.

Each a little bigger than a fridge, they are attached to a Russian rocket which will travel 750 miles up into what is known as low Earth orbit.
....

The company behind the launch is both funded and owned by the British taxpayer, after Boris Johnson authorised spending £400m rescuing this unknown company that was in bankruptcy proceedings in the US at the height of the pandemic.

....

In exchange for Britain's £400m the taxpayer now owns a 33% share in the firm, meaning everyone in the UK now has a stake in the latest stage of the global space race - to be master of the low Earth orbit, a slice of space which is coveted by billionaires as well as governments.

The venture is unprecedented.

OneWeb's mission is to use its low orbit satellite network to provide internet connections for business and governments in every corner of the globe, from Alaska to Afghanistan.

.....

On 26 June, days after Mr Johnson met Mr Mittal, Sam Beckett, the acting permanent secretary at the Department for Business, issued a formal warning, known as a "ministerial direction".

She said that proper due diligence had not been done on the deal and it was "hard at this time to be confident" that the project would generate the promised cash and warned that under some scenarios, all the £400m invested could be lost.

Ms Beckett was overruled by then business secretary Alok Sharma.
....

£400m spaffed against a wall !

[dpedin]

Remember the Independent UK rival to Galileo ?

Well it turns out, that the UK Taxpayer now owns 33% of a firm that is dedicated to providing Internet access to polar bears & penguins; because; (as the experts, & many who aren't experts; but can read a fucking prospectus said), the satellites that OneWeb were lofting, were never usable for GPS ......

OneWeb: Dominic Cummings and the £400m public bailout to rescue an imperilled satellite internet firm

Sky News reveals the full story of the taxpayer-funded rescue, that saw government doors open at speed despite Whitehall jitters.

This Thursday, three dozen satellites will be fired into space from a launch station in a desolate corner of eastern Russia, less than a hundred miles from the northern Chinese border.

Each a little bigger than a fridge, they are attached to a Russian rocket which will travel 750 miles up into what is known as low Earth orbit.
....

The company behind the launch is both funded and owned by the British taxpayer, after Boris Johnson authorised spending £400m rescuing this unknown company that was in bankruptcy proceedings in the US at the height of the pandemic.

....

In exchange for Britain's £400m the taxpayer now owns a 33% share in the firm, meaning everyone in the UK now has a stake in the latest stage of the global space race - to be master of the low Earth orbit, a slice of space which is coveted by billionaires as well as governments.

The venture is unprecedented.

OneWeb's mission is to use its low orbit satellite network to provide internet connections for business and governments in every corner of the globe, from Alaska to Afghanistan.

.....

On 26 June, days after Mr Johnson met Mr Mittal, Sam Beckett, the acting permanent secretary at the Department for Business, issued a formal warning, known as a "ministerial direction".

She said that proper due diligence had not been done on the deal and it was "hard at this time to be confident" that the project would generate the promised cash and warned that under some scenarios, all the £400m invested could be lost.

Ms Beckett was overruled by then business secretary Alok Sharma.
....

£400m spaffed against a wall !

There will be a dodgy link somewhere, someone will find it, to a Tory donor, supporter or Cummings mate who was losing money on Oneweb going bust! Follow the money ...

[fishfoodie]

Remember the Independent UK rival to Galileo ?

Well it turns out, that the UK Taxpayer now owns 33% of a firm that is dedicated to providing Internet access to polar bears & penguins; because; (as the experts, & many who aren't experts; but can read a fucking prospectus said), the satellites that OneWeb were lofting, were never usable for GPS ......

OneWeb: Dominic Cummings and the £400m public bailout to rescue an imperilled satellite internet firm

Sky News reveals the full story of the taxpayer-funded rescue, that saw government doors open at speed despite Whitehall jitters.

This Thursday, three dozen satellites will be fired into space from a launch station in a desolate corner of eastern Russia, less than a hundred miles from the northern Chinese border.

Each a little bigger than a fridge, they are attached to a Russian rocket which will travel 750 miles up into what is known as low Earth orbit.
....

The company behind the launch is both funded and owned by the British taxpayer, after Boris Johnson authorised spending £400m rescuing this unknown company that was in bankruptcy proceedings in the US at the height of the pandemic.

....

In exchange for Britain's £400m the taxpayer now owns a 33% share in the firm, meaning everyone in the UK now has a stake in the latest stage of the global space race - to be master of the low Earth orbit, a slice of space which is coveted by billionaires as well as governments.

The venture is unprecedented.

OneWeb's mission is to use its low orbit satellite network to provide internet connections for business and governments in every corner of the globe, from Alaska to Afghanistan.

.....

On 26 June, days after Mr Johnson met Mr Mittal, Sam Beckett, the acting permanent secretary at the Department for Business, issued a formal warning, known as a "ministerial direction".

She said that proper due diligence had not been done on the deal and it was "hard at this time to be confident" that the project would generate the promised cash and warned that under some scenarios, all the £400m invested could be lost.

Ms Beckett was overruled by then business secretary Alok Sharma.
....

£400m spaffed against a wall !

There will be a dodgy link somewhere, someone will find it, to a Tory donor, supporter or Cummings mate who was losing money on Oneweb going bust! Follow the money ...

No; I think this one is purely down to the high percentage of cabbages in the last few Cabinets; moronic Nationalism, & a wanton disregard for the taxpayers money.

The original deal with OneWeb happened under May's Government; & was a knee-jerk reaction to show how the UK was going to have the bestest GPS, & didn't need Galileo. Then it became obvious that OneWeb couldn't provide the service; so the UKs commitment was reduced dramatically, & OneWeb was on the brink, & the lie was in danger of being exposed; so the Government pretended this was the plan all along.

Now the UK owns a third of a company, in direct competition with Musk & others, & years behind in the deployment of their satellites.

[Sandstorm]

Now the UK owns a third of a company, in direct competition with Musk & others, & years behind in the deployment of their satellites.

Yay! We just bought the next Blackberry.

[Biffer]

Remember the Independent UK rival to Galileo ?

Well it turns out, that the UK Taxpayer now owns 33% of a firm that is dedicated to providing Internet access to polar bears & penguins; because; (as the experts, & many who aren't experts; but can read a fucking prospectus said), the satellites that OneWeb were lofting, were never usable for GPS ......

OneWeb: Dominic Cummings and the £400m public bailout to rescue an imperilled satellite internet firm

Sky News reveals the full story of the taxpayer-funded rescue, that saw government doors open at speed despite Whitehall jitters.

This Thursday, three dozen satellites will be fired into space from a launch station in a desolate corner of eastern Russia, less than a hundred miles from the northern Chinese border.

Each a little bigger than a fridge, they are attached to a Russian rocket which will travel 750 miles up into what is known as low Earth orbit.
....

The company behind the launch is both funded and owned by the British taxpayer, after Boris Johnson authorised spending £400m rescuing this unknown company that was in bankruptcy proceedings in the US at the height of the pandemic.

....

In exchange for Britain's £400m the taxpayer now owns a 33% share in the firm, meaning everyone in the UK now has a stake in the latest stage of the global space race - to be master of the low Earth orbit, a slice of space which is coveted by billionaires as well as governments.

The venture is unprecedented.

OneWeb's mission is to use its low orbit satellite network to provide internet connections for business and governments in every corner of the globe, from Alaska to Afghanistan.

.....

On 26 June, days after Mr Johnson met Mr Mittal, Sam Beckett, the acting permanent secretary at the Department for Business, issued a formal warning, known as a "ministerial direction".

She said that proper due diligence had not been done on the deal and it was "hard at this time to be confident" that the project would generate the promised cash and warned that under some scenarios, all the £400m invested could be lost.

Ms Beckett was overruled by then business secretary Alok Sharma.
....

£400m spaffed against a wall !

One of the guys I work with did a quick back of the envelope (which for him is PhD level stuff) calculation and figured out they'd be able to give an accurate position to around 1 km.

Guys in the Satellite Applications Catapult (which is another government organisation wanking money into the aether) are now trying to push it as a positioning network by combining it with a network of ground stations to stabilise the signal. It's fucking fairytale nonsense.

[fishfoodie]

Remember the Independent UK rival to Galileo ?

Well it turns out, that the UK Taxpayer now owns 33% of a firm that is dedicated to providing Internet access to polar bears & penguins; because; (as the experts, & many who aren't experts; but can read a fucking prospectus said), the satellites that OneWeb were lofting, were never usable for GPS ......

OneWeb: Dominic Cummings and the £400m public bailout to rescue an imperilled satellite internet firm

Sky News reveals the full story of the taxpayer-funded rescue, that saw government doors open at speed despite Whitehall jitters.

This Thursday, three dozen satellites will be fired into space from a launch station in a desolate corner of eastern Russia, less than a hundred miles from the northern Chinese border.

Each a little bigger than a fridge, they are attached to a Russian rocket which will travel 750 miles up into what is known as low Earth orbit.
....

The company behind the launch is both funded and owned by the British taxpayer, after Boris Johnson authorised spending £400m rescuing this unknown company that was in bankruptcy proceedings in the US at the height of the pandemic.

....

In exchange for Britain's £400m the taxpayer now owns a 33% share in the firm, meaning everyone in the UK now has a stake in the latest stage of the global space race - to be master of the low Earth orbit, a slice of space which is coveted by billionaires as well as governments.

The venture is unprecedented.

OneWeb's mission is to use its low orbit satellite network to provide internet connections for business and governments in every corner of the globe, from Alaska to Afghanistan.

.....

On 26 June, days after Mr Johnson met Mr Mittal, Sam Beckett, the acting permanent secretary at the Department for Business, issued a formal warning, known as a "ministerial direction".

She said that proper due diligence had not been done on the deal and it was "hard at this time to be confident" that the project would generate the promised cash and warned that under some scenarios, all the £400m invested could be lost.

Ms Beckett was overruled by then business secretary Alok Sharma.
....

£400m spaffed against a wall !

One of the guys I work with did a quick back of the envelope (which for him is PhD level stuff) calculation and figured out they'd be able to give an accurate position to around 1 km.

Guys in the Satellite Applications Catapult (which is another government organisation wanking money into the aether) are now trying to push it as a positioning network by combining it with a network of ground stations to stabilise the signal. It's fucking fairytale nonsense.

£400m for something a little more accurate than one of these.

[Insane_Homer]

[SaintK]

Bimbot will be along in a minute to tell you that those figures are wrong and it was due to stockpiling at the end of 2020 and that there is absolutely no problem in the slightest

[Hal Jordan]

John Le Carre was so pissed off with Brexit he died with Irish citizenship.

[I like neeps]

According to Jamie Dimon’s shareholder letter, “we may reach a tipping point many years out when it may make sense to move all functions that service Europe out of the United Kingdom and into continental Europe”. There’s a “may” and a “many years out” in there to take comfort from, but not exactly good news for anyone starting their career in London without an Irish grandparent.

Project reality

[Yeeb]

Is there a March 20 v March 21 comparison ? Would the percentages be similar ? Surely there would be some amount of teething issues that would make jan21 especially bad, whilst jam sandwiches etc were getting nicked.

[Insane_Homer]

Delayed reporting seems to be about 2 months behind, so unlikely to get stats for March until June time.

EU have relaxed certain rules in the first few months and UK has delayed theirs by 6 months, so likely to get worse before it gets better.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/20 ... -not-ready

Exports to the EU from Britain have been subject to controls since 1 January, but the government decided to opt for a phased approach on EU imports to give hauliers and business more time to adapt.

Checks were due to be introduced in stages from 1 April and from 1 July, but in recent days traders and ports have said they are not ready and that the introduction of processes as originally planned could lead to empty supermarket shelves.

[fishfoodie]

Delayed reporting seems to be about 2 months behind, so unlikely to get stats for March until June time.

EU have relaxed certain rules in the first few months and UK has delayed theirs by 6 months, so likely to get worse before it gets better.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/20 ... -not-ready

Exports to the EU from Britain have been subject to controls since 1 January, but the government decided to opt for a phased approach on EU imports to give hauliers and business more time to adapt.

Checks were due to be introduced in stages from 1 April and from 1 July, but in recent days traders and ports have said they are not ready and that the introduction of processes as originally planned could lead to empty supermarket shelves.

There's also the reality that businesses & individuals have used the delays for full implementation, to change their supply chains to no longer use goods that have to cross the border.

The Government keep pushing the narrative that things will just return to normal; but the reality is that there's going to be a step function down in Trade; & then maybe , a slow trend back upwards, if UK businesses can reduce their costs, or cut the profits; to make their goods competitive again, outside the SM & CU

[Insane_Homer]

[tabascoboy]

Don't worry, things are back to normal there

During several hours of rioting in Belfast on Wednesday, police were attacked, petrol bombs were thrown and a bus was burnt.

The Police Federation said seven officers were injured at an interface between loyalist and nationalist areas.

[Insane_Homer]

Not to mention the stupid, useless cunt - Raab, who while Brexit secretary admitted he couldn't be arsed to read the 35 pages of the GFA.



But now blames the EU for 'erecting border in the Irish sea'

and

https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/14197 ... lan-duncan

Mr Raab was sent over to Brussels to try and break the deadlock over complications surrounding the Northern Ireland Protocol and UK fisheries.

[Rhubarb & Custard]

He is right, it's not like a novel. You read a novel presumably for fun, whereas reading the GFA would come more under being part of his job. Hardly the only one of us to be saying I can't be arsed with doing the job properly, at least it doesn't stand out in this cabinet.