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TRANS-TASMAN Super Rugby 2021 - ITS AUNZ!
They got off to a slow start, but since Ardie was binned it's been one-way traffic. Taylor's in great nick. Why the fuck didn't Garden-Bachop just pin his ears back and dive early? Missed a step and lost his chance - doh!
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Certain Navigator
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Perhaps it was different on the TV, but at the ground O'Keefe appeared to spend most of the time refereeing only one team. Amongst other things, he missed a late tackle on Mo'unga that was so late it was almost after-match function material, somehow couldn't see a blatant (if fairly inconsequential) piece of foul play by Savea that would have given him a red, and over-turned a perfectly legitimate Jordan try for no apparent reason.
It was never going to affect the result in this match, but one worries that refereeing of this quality could cause problems when the two teams are more evenly matched.
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Monkey Magic
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By the Jordan try you don't mean the kick chase one that the tmo ruled out?Certain Navigator wrote: ↑Sun Mar 07, 2021 6:22 amPerhaps it was different on the TV, but at the ground O'Keefe appeared to spend most of the time refereeing only one team. Amongst other things, he missed a late tackle on Mo'unga that was so late it was almost after-match function material, somehow couldn't see a blatant (if fairly inconsequential) piece of foul play by Savea that would have given him a red, and over-turned a perfectly legitimate Jordan try for no apparent reason.
It was never going to affect the result in this match, but one worries that refereeing of this quality could cause problems when the two teams are more evenly matched.
I actually think the Mounga incident and the no Jordan try were correct calls by the ref. Not sure what Savea foul play you are referring to though.Monkey Magic wrote: ↑Sun Mar 07, 2021 8:03 amBy the Jordan try you don't mean the kick chase one that the tmo ruled out?Certain Navigator wrote: ↑Sun Mar 07, 2021 6:22 amPerhaps it was different on the TV, but at the ground O'Keefe appeared to spend most of the time refereeing only one team. Amongst other things, he missed a late tackle on Mo'unga that was so late it was almost after-match function material, somehow couldn't see a blatant (if fairly inconsequential) piece of foul play by Savea that would have given him a red, and over-turned a perfectly legitimate Jordan try for no apparent reason.
It was never going to affect the result in this match, but one worries that refereeing of this quality could cause problems when the two teams are more evenly matched.
Can someone please explain what this sentence actually means? Is (blatant) foul play inconsequential or not?Certain Navigator wrote: ↑Sun Mar 07, 2021 6:22 am couldn't see a blatant (if fairly inconsequential) piece of foul play by Savea that would have given him a red
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OomStruisbaai
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Was hoping the Hurricanes upset the fancy boys. Did not happen. See the box kick sickness has entered NZ rugby.
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Certain Navigator
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It was a 'blatant' transgression of the rules, but its effect was 'inconsequential' because the sufferer (Whitelock) didn't appear to be badly affected. Hope that's clear now...Sandstorm wrote: ↑Mon Mar 08, 2021 11:42 amCan someone please explain what this sentence actually means? Is (blatant) foul play inconsequential or not?Certain Navigator wrote: ↑Sun Mar 07, 2021 6:22 am couldn't see a blatant (if fairly inconsequential) piece of foul play by Savea that would have given him a red
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Certain Navigator
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No, O'Keefe didn't seem very sure either. It was the captain's call Savea head to the shoulder of Whitelock. A yellow every time under the current rules.Trapper wrote: ↑Sun Mar 07, 2021 9:41 amI actually think the Mounga incident and the no Jordan try were correct calls by the ref. Not sure what Savea foul play you are referring to though.Monkey Magic wrote: ↑Sun Mar 07, 2021 8:03 amBy the Jordan try you don't mean the kick chase one that the tmo ruled out?Certain Navigator wrote: ↑Sun Mar 07, 2021 6:22 am
Perhaps it was different on the TV, but at the ground O'Keefe appeared to spend most of the time refereeing only one team. Amongst other things, he missed a late tackle on Mo'unga that was so late it was almost after-match function material, somehow couldn't see a blatant (if fairly inconsequential) piece of foul play by Savea that would have given him a red, and over-turned a perfectly legitimate Jordan try for no apparent reason.
It was never going to affect the result in this match, but one worries that refereeing of this quality could cause problems when the two teams are more evenly matched.
We'll have to agree to disagree on the other two incidents. If Jordan's try was in fact not a try, then 90% of the tries in the 20-odd years I played rugby would have had to be ruled out.
Between the 36th and 70th minutes, the Hurricanes didn't concede a single penalisable offense (yeah right). In the entire second half, the penalty count was a Boer-like 10-1 — no wonder the game degenerated into such a mess. As is so often the case with O'Keefe, he seemed to only be interested in refereeing one side. No biggie in this case, but as I've already said it could be problematical between two more evenly-matched teams.