Saffers Playing Abroad Thread

[assfly]

Some of our right honourable posters struggle to believe when players go overseas they can actually play differently and in some cases improve.

[handyman]

His offload game has always been there...you are thinking about De Allende

He is a one trick pony. The same as De Allende. Damian however will contest over the ball and not cost you games with cards.

Easy choice really.

De Allende has been playing quite well up north. Watched several games and he gets across the gain line and does actually pass a bit now too.

Quite correct. If that is what you want from your 12, he is the perfect pick. He was one of the standouts in our RWC 2019 campaign.

[handyman]

Some of our right honourable posters struggle to believe when players go overseas they can actually play differently and in some cases improve.

Rancid.






















And it's elite.

[assfly]

Rancid.

Not necessarily aimed at you.

But out of curiosity, do you watch much European rugby?

[handyman]

Rancid.

Not necessarily aimed at you.

But out of curiosity, do you watch much European rugby?

I try to catch the high lights on DSTV. I watch most local games live.

[Chilli]

Some of our right honourable posters struggle to believe when players go overseas they can actually play differently and in some cases improve.

I think that it says more about our coaches and game plans than it does about the players.

[assfly]

I think that it says more about our coaches and game plans than it does about the players.

I think is says more about our posters!

But yes, all of the above.

[Fangle]

Houts said that AE could only pass off one foot, but he sure didn’t pass much when in SA. His wings were starved of the ball.

[OomStruisbaai]

Is Houtie still alive?

[assfly]

Houts said that AE could only pass off one foot, but he sure didn’t pass much when in SA. His wings were starved of the ball.

I don't think his wings were starved of the ball at all. Look at how we performed in some of the SR matches in 2020:

Beat the Highlanders 42-20 with 2 tries by Mapimpi and 1 by Fassi
Lost to the Hurricane, try by Tambwe
Beat the Rebels with AE as captain, trty by AE, two by Mapimpi, one by Tambwe
Beat the Reds, tries by Am and Tambwe
Beat the Stormers, tries by Fassi and Mapimpi

That is not a team with a 12 who can't pass.

[OomStruisbaai]

Bosch kicked it to his outside backs

[handyman]

Bosch kicked it to his outside backs

Bosch skip passed to Am.

[sorCrer]

What I would like to know is who will play fly for us against the Lions? May have to be Moernaai.

[handyman]

What I would like to know is who will play fly for us against the Lions? May have to be Moernaai.

Is Pollard definitely out? Even if not, will be under cooked.

[assfly]

What I would like to know is who will play fly for us against the Lions? May have to be Moernaai.

No idea. None of the SA based flyhalves fill me with confidence. Perhaps an outside shot for Goosen?

[handyman]

If there is no clear candidate, then we should go with Willemse.

[OomStruisbaai]

Please don't start this. Vokket.

[assfly]

[‘tsek]

Elton is the incumbent.

Plus he has the hair and tattoos to give most of you verkramptes apoplexy.

[Blake]

Is Houtie still alive?

Yes, just very busy with work (Covid related stuff) and another medical cause he supports. I think the two things are consuming every spare minute he has.

[OomStruisbaai]

Is Houtie still alive?

Yes, just very busy with work (Covid related stuff) and another medical cause he supports. I think the two things are consuming every spare minute he has.

Awesome,

[sorCrer]

Is he still such a fat bastard?

[FalseBayFC]

Elton is the incumbent.

Plus he has the hair and tattoos to give most of you verkramptes apoplexy.

- Elton to start, Morne back up.
- Nche in for Beast, Kitshoff to start though.
- Van Staden in for Flouw
- RG Snyman only just started running so a fourth lock needed.
- Akker as backup for Bongi and Marx
- one of the Dup twins in for PSDT if he's still crocked. Pref Dan to cover 8.

backs to remain unchanged from RWC squad.

Lions tests are attritional games, high stakes, high pressure just like a RWC final. Not a time for bolters or adventurous selection. if there is too much pressure from political quarters to include more POC, I would widen the squad to include Penxe, Simelane, Notshe and ?

[handyman]

What I would like to know is who will play fly for us against the Lions? May have to be Moernaai.

No idea. None of the SA based flyhalves fill me with confidence. Perhaps an outside shot for Goosen?

Is his place kicking up to scratch?

[handyman]

Elton is the incumbent.

Plus he has the hair and tattoos to give most of you verkramptes apoplexy.

- Elton to start, Morne back up.
- Nche in for Beast, Kitshoff to start though.
- Van Staden in for Flouw
- RG Snyman only just started running so a fourth lock needed.
- Akker as backup for Bongi and Marx
- one of the Dup twins in for PSDT if he's still crocked. Pref Dan to cover 8.

backs to remain unchanged from RWC squad.

Lions tests are attritional games, high stakes, high pressure just like a RWC final. Not a time for bolters or adventurous selection. if there is too much pressure from political quarters to include more POC, I would widen the squad to include Penxe, Simelane, Notshe and ?

I'm no fan of Steyn, but yeah, without Pollard we are screwed at fly.
Nyakane?
Van Staden must get a run, he has been absolutely on fire.
We have Etzebeth, De Jager, Mostert at lock. Schickerling perhaps? Lewies?

[assfly]

Is his place kicking up to scratch?

I have no idea, haven't seen him play in years. He's been starting for Montpellier recently at 10, and goalkicking was always one of his strengths.
It's just an outside shot for him I guess, but the following list doesn't fill me with hope:

Elton Jantjies
Morne Steyn
Willemse
Curwin Bosch
Rob du Preez

[handyman]

Is his place kicking up to scratch?

I have no idea, haven't seen him play in years. He's been starting for Montpellier recently at 10, and goalkicking was always one of his strengths.
It's just an outside shot for him I guess, but the following list doesn't fill me with hope:

Elton Jantjies
Morne Steyn
Willemse
Curwin Bosch
Rob du Preez

Come on, give it a shot, add Goosen and put in your order of preference from 1 to 6.

[assfly]

Come on, give it a shot, add Goosen and put in your order of preference from 1 to 6.

I can't. I can't do it. I literally feel ill just thinking about it.

[OomStruisbaai]

Come on, give it a shot, add Goosen and put in your order of preference from 1 to 6.

I can't. I can't do it. I literally feel ill just thinking about it.

Agree, Goose haven't played any rugby for ages. Naas Botha maybe a better option then him.

[Chilli]

Frans Steyn at 10?

[handyman]

Frans Steyn at 10?

I think this is what is going to happen, but for me, I have never seen Frans Steyn play a good game at fly. 12 or 15 yes, he is awesome, but not at 10.

[assfly]

Frans Steyn at 10?

Not beyond the realms of possibility. Haven't seen him play in a while so not sure where his kicking and passing is at the moment.

But my worry would be that he'll be up against a master technician in the form of Sexton who would exploit this weakness (same goes for any of our 10s bar Pollard).

[FalseBayFC]

I think Elton would run OK behind a competitive pack and a world cup winning backline outside him. Would go some way to shutting up the minister of sports if he starts gaaning aan about more colour in the team. Also having Morne on the bench to come on and close out tight games is a big plus, the guys as steady as a rock still.

[sunnybanana]

Pollard will be back by the time the Lions arrive. Hopefully with a month of rugby behind him.

[Chilli]

I think Elton would run OK behind a competitive pack and a world cup winning backline outside him. Would go some way to shutting up the minister of sports if he starts gaaning aan about more colour in the team. Also having Morne on the bench to come on and close out tight games is a big plus, the guys as steady as a rock still.

Junkies needs a game plan that suites his style.
When he was at the Stomps he had a hugely dominant pack in front of him and JDV outside of him. He was kak because he can't kick every ball away

[sorCrer]

They're going to run Zamaleek into space between 10-12 at pace like Wales did on the weekend. Whoever is there better be able to tackle.

[assfly]

Pollard will be back by the time the Lions arrive. Hopefully with a month of rugby behind him.

I hope so. Even just a couple of games behind him would be enough.

But it still a problem position for us that Rassie needs to start looking at.

[sunnybanana]

Pollard will be back by the time the Lions arrive. Hopefully with a month of rugby behind him.

I hope so. Even just a couple of games behind him would be enough.

But it still a problem position for us that Rassie needs to start looking at.

Yep and, outrageously, Morne really is the next best bet we have right now.

[OomStruisbaai]

Jantjies will be Pollard backup, As it was for the last 5 years.

[assfly]

Nice little highlights reel of AE's recent form: