So, coronavirus...

[tc27]

EU's constant bleating about UK not exporting vaccines may be incorrect.

"The Sydney Morning Herald and The Age can reveal Australia’s early rollout has been propped up by 717,000 doses manufactured in the UK rather than from factories in Europe as widely believed.
The first 300,000 UK-made doses landed at Sydney Airport on February 28 – one month after the European Commission introduced new curbs limiting the export of vaccines produced on the continent.
Another large batch arrived on an Emirates passenger plane in March, well after Italy and the European Commission formally blocked an application by AstraZeneca to ship 250,000 doses to Australia."

https://www.theage.com.au/world/europe/ ... 57hcl.html

Ursula will go ballistic. They should have gone to the EU (in her mind)

Its entirely possible the UK agreed to meet Australia's AZ order from its own stocks as part of the deal to avoid an export ban on PZ from the EU - no-one is discussing details though.

[Saint]

EU's constant bleating about UK not exporting vaccines may be incorrect.

"The Sydney Morning Herald and The Age can reveal Australia’s early rollout has been propped up by 717,000 doses manufactured in the UK rather than from factories in Europe as widely believed.
The first 300,000 UK-made doses landed at Sydney Airport on February 28 – one month after the European Commission introduced new curbs limiting the export of vaccines produced on the continent.
Another large batch arrived on an Emirates passenger plane in March, well after Italy and the European Commission formally blocked an application by AstraZeneca to ship 250,000 doses to Australia."

https://www.theage.com.au/world/europe/ ... 57hcl.html

Ursula will go ballistic. They should have gone to the EU (in her mind)

Its entirely possible the UK agreed to meet Australia's AZ order from its own stocks as part of the deal to avoid an export ban on PZ from the EU - no-one is discussing details though.

According to Ursula they aren't the UK's stocks; but Matt Hancock specifically denied the UK government shipped this - he said very specifically that it was AstraZeneca

[yermum]

Pure hearsay anecdotal etc so salt needed. My friend, a scottish renal consultant says her dept has had three deaths in the last couple of weeks. All young women within 2 weeks of AZ vaccination.

Her take is there is a bigger problem with AZ then we are seeing atm

[Saint]

Pure hearsay anecdotal etc so salt needed. My friend, a scottish renal consultant says her dept has had three deaths in the last couple of weeks. All young women within 2 weeks of AZ vaccination.

Her take is there is a bigger problem with AZ then we are seeing atm

So she's saying AZ is causing kidney failure?

[Torquemada 1420]

Pure hearsay anecdotal etc so salt needed. My friend, a scottish renal consultant says her dept has had three deaths in the last couple of weeks. All young women within 2 weeks of AZ vaccination.

Her take is there is a bigger problem with AZ then we are seeing atm

So she's saying AZ is causing kidney failure?

Friend been in hospital feeling unwell since last week. Diagnosed as arrhythmia. He had no symptoms before and cardiac consultant has told him yesterday that he believes it has been caused by his AZ vaccination.

[Saint]

Pure hearsay anecdotal etc so salt needed. My friend, a scottish renal consultant says her dept has had three deaths in the last couple of weeks. All young women within 2 weeks of AZ vaccination.

Her take is there is a bigger problem with AZ then we are seeing atm

So she's saying AZ is causing kidney failure?

Friend been in hospital feeling unwell since last week. Diagnosed as arrhythmia. He had no symptoms before and cardiac consultant has told him yesterday that he believes it has been caused by his AZ vaccination.

Dear god............

[Torquemada 1420]

So she's saying AZ is causing kidney failure?

Friend been in hospital feeling unwell since last week. Diagnosed as arrhythmia. He had no symptoms before and cardiac consultant has told him yesterday that he believes it has been caused by his AZ vaccination.

Dear god............

Yup. I told his missus to get the consultant to put that in writing. But whatever the truth, there are a lot of ugly pictures being painted at the moment which does not instil one with confidence.

[yermum]

Pure hearsay anecdotal etc so salt needed. My friend, a scottish renal consultant says her dept has had three deaths in the last couple of weeks. All young women within 2 weeks of AZ vaccination.

Her take is there is a bigger problem with AZ then we are seeing atm

So she's saying AZ is causing kidney failure?

Renal venous thrombosis I think

But again anecdotal so salt needed

[Lobby]

Although Slovakia ordered 200,000 doses of the Sputnik vaccine last month, it has not yet used any.

Reuters are reporting that the Slovak National drug agency SUKL has said it can't determine that the vaccine is safe because of "missing data, inconsistency of dosage forms, and (the) impossibility of mutually comparing batches used in various studies and countries,”

It is also being reported in Slovak media that the Slovak batch of Sputnik V is not identical to one used in a trial whose results were published in the Lancet magazine in February, and which Slovak experts had used as an argument for using the vaccine.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-heal ... SKBN2BU1X7

If the Sputnik vaccines being delivered are different to those used in trials, it must raise concerns about its efficacy.

[Slick]

So she's saying AZ is causing kidney failure?

Friend been in hospital feeling unwell since last week. Diagnosed as arrhythmia. He had no symptoms before and cardiac consultant has told him yesterday that he believes it has been caused by his AZ vaccination.

Dear god............

My wife was speaking to her friend, a GP, at the weekend who was saying one of her best friends from Uni was part of the AZ vaccine team and wouldn't choose to have it himself....

[TheNatalShark]

Some good news, Germany sees the results of finally allowing GPs to administer doses and effectively doubles the previous highest rate of daily jabs. Hopefully they can work through the backlog before delivery rates increase

[tc27]

Some good news, Germany sees the results of finally allowing GPs to administer doses and effectively doubles the previous highest rate of daily jabs. Hopefully they can work through the backlog before delivery rates increase

Looks like supply bottlenecks are easing up now.

Over 500k doses in the UK today.

[The Druid]

Some good news, Germany sees the results of finally allowing GPs to administer doses and effectively doubles the previous highest rate of daily jabs. Hopefully they can work through the backlog before delivery rates increase

Looks like supply bottlenecks are easing up now.

Over 500k doses in the UK today.

Any Links?

[TheNatalShark]

Looks like supply bottlenecks are easing up now.

Over 500k doses in the UK today.

In terms of supply to Germany, not really for this increase in rate. This is representative of the federal government squabbling less over lack of supply from EU procurement and tackling its own glacial move to reduce bureaucracy in obtaining eligibility and opening up wider distribution channels to deal with the glut already received and high % kept in reserve for second doses. Germany over taken by France in significant numbers in the last month + slips in CDU election results must be getting things moving at the top.

Theoretically they can have similar (trending downwards) numbers during weekdays till next Friday, at which point back to supply bottle neck, according to utilisation and delivery forecasts.

[Saint]

Some good news, Germany sees the results of finally allowing GPs to administer doses and effectively doubles the previous highest rate of daily jabs. Hopefully they can work through the backlog before delivery rates increase

Looks like supply bottlenecks are easing up now.

Over 500k doses in the UK today.

Any Links?

Covid dashboard showing 507K doses yesterday, 408K of which were second doses. Good numbers, but only 800K doses were delivered across the 4 day Easter break, so some catching up to do

[Lobby]

Although Slovakia ordered 200,000 doses of the Sputnik vaccine last month, it has not yet used any.

Reuters are reporting that the Slovak National drug agency SUKL has said it can't determine that the vaccine is safe because of "missing data, inconsistency of dosage forms, and (the) impossibility of mutually comparing batches used in various studies and countries,”

It is also being reported in Slovak media that the Slovak batch of Sputnik V is not identical to one used in a trial whose results were published in the Lancet magazine in February, and which Slovak experts had used as an argument for using the vaccine.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-heal ... SKBN2BU1X7

If the Sputnik vaccines being delivered are different to those used in trials, it must raise concerns about its efficacy.

A little update.

“Russia has demanded Slovakia return a batch of Sputnik V vaccines which Slovakia had quality concerns over. Russia says Slovakia breached contract by testing the vaccines in an unaccredited laboratory and accused the country of launching a disinfo campaign against the jab.”

[Saint]

Although Slovakia ordered 200,000 doses of the Sputnik vaccine last month, it has not yet used any.

Reuters are reporting that the Slovak National drug agency SUKL has said it can't determine that the vaccine is safe because of "missing data, inconsistency of dosage forms, and (the) impossibility of mutually comparing batches used in various studies and countries,”

It is also being reported in Slovak media that the Slovak batch of Sputnik V is not identical to one used in a trial whose results were published in the Lancet magazine in February, and which Slovak experts had used as an argument for using the vaccine.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-heal ... SKBN2BU1X7

If the Sputnik vaccines being delivered are different to those used in trials, it must raise concerns about its efficacy.

A little update.

“Russia has demanded Slovakia return a batch of Sputnik V vaccines which Slovakia had quality concerns over. Russia says Slovakia breached contract by testing the vaccines in an unaccredited laboratory and accused the country of launching a disinfo campaign against the jab.”

Who to believe..........

[Sandstorm]

If you are soft enough to experience serious organ failure from something as mild as the AZ vaccine, god help you if you actually get Covid19!!!!

[The Druid]

Looks like supply bottlenecks are easing up now.

Over 500k doses in the UK today.

Any Links?

Covid dashboard showing 507K doses yesterday, 408K of which were second doses. Good numbers, but only 800K doses were delivered across the 4 day Easter break, so some catching up to do

Thank you S.

[Glaston]

The Halix plant in Holland.

All those reports last week of it being seed funded by the UK. £20 something million was the figure.



“In the discussion I had at the beginning with the CEO of AstraZeneca, I understood, he told me, that the ramp up of Halix has been financed by the British government,” Breton said. “And it happens that when I went to visit the site and I asked how much they’re received from the British government, the chairman and the CEO were there and they told me ‘zero’. So in fact, I asked three times a question and I got three times the same answer.”

That's Thierry Breton the EU's vaccine commissar.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/ ... s-brussels


Odd!

[Raggs]

The Halix plant in Holland.

All those reports last week of it being seed funded by the UK. £20 something million was the figure.



“In the discussion I had at the beginning with the CEO of AstraZeneca, I understood, he told me, that the ramp up of Halix has been financed by the British government,” Breton said. “And it happens that when I went to visit the site and I asked how much they’re received from the British government, the chairman and the CEO were there and they told me ‘zero’. So in fact, I asked three times a question and I got three times the same answer.”

That's Thierry Breton the EU's vaccine commissar.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/ ... s-brussels


Odd!

Would the plant have got the funds from the government? Surely they'd have got the funds from AZ?

[Saint]

The Halix plant in Holland.

All those reports last week of it being seed funded by the UK. £20 something million was the figure.



“In the discussion I had at the beginning with the CEO of AstraZeneca, I understood, he told me, that the ramp up of Halix has been financed by the British government,” Breton said. “And it happens that when I went to visit the site and I asked how much they’re received from the British government, the chairman and the CEO were there and they told me ‘zero’. So in fact, I asked three times a question and I got three times the same answer.”

That's Thierry Breton the EU's vaccine commissar.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/ ... s-brussels


Odd!

Would the plant have got the funds from the government? Surely they'd have got the funds from AZ?

At the time I think it would have been via the Jenner Institute. Thierry Breton has been pretty disingenuous in his public statements since his appointment as EU vaccine Tsar

[Lobby]

The Halix plant in Holland.

All those reports last week of it being seed funded by the UK. £20 something million was the figure.



“In the discussion I had at the beginning with the CEO of AstraZeneca, I understood, he told me, that the ramp up of Halix has been financed by the British government,” Breton said. “And it happens that when I went to visit the site and I asked how much they’re received from the British government, the chairman and the CEO were there and they told me ‘zero’. So in fact, I asked three times a question and I got three times the same answer.”

That's Thierry Breton the EU's vaccine commissar.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/ ... s-brussels


Odd!

Would the plant have got the funds from the government? Surely they'd have got the funds from AZ?

At the time I think it would have been via the Jenner Institute. Thierry Breton has been pretty disingenuous in his public statements since his appointment as EU vaccine Tsar

The same article states:

"Oxford University, which was given more than £65.5m in additional UK government funding last year to work on its vaccine, has been in a commercial relationship with the Halix plant since April 2020"

So any funding would have been from Oxford (as you say, the Jenner Institute), and not directly from the UK Government, even if that was the ultimate source of the funding.

[Saint]

Would the plant have got the funds from the government? Surely they'd have got the funds from AZ?

At the time I think it would have been via the Jenner Institute. Thierry Breton has been pretty disingenuous in his public statements since his appointment as EU vaccine Tsar

The same article states:

"Oxford University, which was given more than £65.5m in additional UK government funding last year to work on its vaccine, has been in a commercial relationship with the Halix plant since April 2020"

So any funding would have been from Oxford (as you say, the Jenner Institute), and not directly from the UK Government, even if that was the ultimate source of the funding.

Yes. I think Breton is probably fully aware of what's happened and is choosing his words very carefully

[Sandstorm]

And the Halix people would be very silly to straight-up admit it on the day the new EU guy comes calling.

[Mahoney]

Good write up of the AZ clot thing:
https://unherd.com/thepost/on-the-astra ... bd718fbf57

[Raggs]

Good write up of the AZ clot thing:
https://unherd.com/thepost/on-the-astra ... bd718fbf57

Even he's not got it right, he's saying they should only be offered AZ if there's nothing else available, but by my reading, it's that they should be offered an alternative to AZ if available. It's a small difference, but it's not that you give them anything but AZ if possible, it's that they can pick something different if they want.

Additionally, EMA (not sure about MHRA) stated that there's no evidence to back the fact that it's more commonly found in any particular age/sex. Furthermore, I don't believe they're even convinced about it yet, but have agreed to add it as a possible rare side effect (which is probably important in legal terms).

[shaggy]

https://amp.theguardian.com/world/2021/ ... s-brussels

What an incredible odd news article.

[Saint]

https://amp.theguardian.com/world/2021/ ... s-brussels

What an incredible odd news article.

I can only imagine that there's a dodgy translation somewhere in all of that; but even then it's an odd piece to write - anyway the obvious riposte is that the EU might be thanking the UK for getting the Halix plant up to speed (ignoring the whole thing about capital investment, the current production rate is down to us sending a team over there to get it sorted).

Anyway, the UK delivered another 545K doses yesterday, of which 449K were second doses

[Raggs]

https://amp.theguardian.com/world/2021/ ... s-brussels

What an incredible odd news article.

Holy shit he comes across as a right cunt!

https://amp.theguardian.com/world/2021/ ... s-brussels

What an incredible odd news article.

I can only imagine that there's a dodgy translation somewhere in all of that; but even then it's an odd piece to write - anyway the obvious riposte is that the EU might be thanking the UK for getting the Halix plant up to speed (ignoring the whole thing about capital investment, the current production rate is down to us sending a team over there to get it sorted).

Anyway, the UK delivered another 545K doses yesterday, of which 449K were second doses

There's only so much I can attribute to translation issues!

EDIT - And surely 1 dose to every adult that wants it, and the ensuing numbers of second doses, by end of July, is still better than 70% of adults double dosed? (Struggling to believe we can get to 18+ without also hitting the 70%).

[Glaston]

Local pub is tempting people with piccies of the beer barrels they have just recieved.

Getting ready for monday.
Choice of Exmoor Gold or Branoc.

[tc27]

https://amp.theguardian.com/world/2021/ ... s-brussels

What an incredible odd news article.

I can only imagine that there's a dodgy translation somewhere in all of that; but even then it's an odd piece to write - anyway the obvious riposte is that the EU might be thanking the UK for getting the Halix plant up to speed (ignoring the whole thing about capital investment, the current production rate is down to us sending a team over there to get it sorted).

Anyway, the UK delivered another 545K doses yesterday, of which 449K were second doses

The pace of second doses seems to indicate many people getting their second dose earlier than 12 weeks - possibly indicates a real effort to get the high risk cohorts double dosed at the expense of the under 50s.

Vaccinations really taking of in the rest of Europe too: France 500k, Germany 700k, Spain 450k.

[laurent]

France passed 10M mark yesterday with 3.5M fully vaccinated (yesterday) ... (My mother in the second group today)


https://www.lemonde.fr/les-decodeurs/ar ... =dashboard

looks like things are looking up I hope I can get my shots on schedule in may/ june and bugger off on holiday to spend the small fortune I accumulated in restaurant vouchers ...

[BnM]

https://amp.theguardian.com/world/2021/ ... s-brussels

What an incredible odd news article.

Fuck

He said the UK had chosen a company to produce the Oxford vaccine that “had the advantage of being based in Britain, but no real experience in vaccine production … And we’re seeing today what that means.” Well why did you buy AZ then

The EU would “not let Britain down”, he said. “My sole objective is to make sure Europe produces the vaccines, for us and our friends, because this is a pandemic. But I think people will understand that we will put ourselves first, then our friends – albeit with a very short space of time between the two.”

You were screaming bloody murder when you accused the UK of putting itself first.

Breton said the European commission and AstraZeneca had signed a “best efforts” contract relying on five factories, including two in the UK, “a few days” before Britain had signed its deal, which he said he had not seen.

“I’m told the British health minister has said the UK has an ‘exclusivity contract’,” he said. “But I cannot imagine the company took the legal risk of signing an ‘exclusivity’ contract just after signing a ‘best efforts’ contract. That seems to me very dangerous legally. I cannot think it is the reality.”

Exclusivity is the wrong word and you're right, only an idiot would prioritise a later contract like that which means you weren't first we had binding agreements before you. As before you were again screaming bloody murder that the UK having priority despite only getting 30m out of 120m ordered was unethical, now you think/claim you have priority it's actually ethical.

[BnM]

On the other hand at this rate they'll be begging us to take AZ off their hands.

Fresh blow for AstraZeneca as vaccine is linked to another dangerous blood condition in Europe - while regulators review four cases of brain clots linked to Johnson and Johnson's single-dose jab that UK has bought 30million doses of

Five cases of capillary leak syndrome reported after AZ vaccine on continent
Condition sees blood leak from tiny vessels into muscles and body cavities
J&J vaccine also linked to four cases of brain clots, one of which was fatal

[Fangle]

I haven’t noticed any comments about the Moderna vaccine. Is it only being administered in the US?

[Raggs]

I haven’t noticed any comments about the Moderna vaccine. Is it only being administered in the US?

Just started in the UK, we don't have that much of it though.

[laurent]

I haven’t noticed any comments about the Moderna vaccine. Is it only being administered in the US?

It's second authorised in Europe but not as many doses ordered as Pfizer or AZ, however no production issues or side effects (however insignificant).

[Saint]

I haven’t noticed any comments about the Moderna vaccine. Is it only being administered in the US?

Moderna has serious scale issues. The enormous bulk of manufacturing capacity is in the US, from where it can;t be exported. The EU and UK both have access to much smaller production from Switzerland; it accounts for around 10%-ish of EU delivery, and we just got first access to it in the UK this last week (it wasn;t on our pre-purchase list, not least because it was recognised they didn't have scale). They're investing heavily, but Moderna estimate it takes 9-12 months to bring a new facility online for production, so they're talking about 1.4 billion doses produced in 2022. Total 2021 production will be a fairly small fraction of that

[laurent]

I haven’t noticed any comments about the Moderna vaccine. Is it only being administered in the US?

Moderna has serious scale issues. The enormous bulk of manufacturing capacity is in the US, from where it can;t be exported. The EU and UK both have access to much smaller production from Switzerland; it accounts for around 10%-ish of EU delivery, and we just got first access to it in the UK this last week (it wasn;t on our pre-purchase list, not least because it was recognised they didn't have scale). They're investing heavily, but Moderna estimate it takes 9-12 months to bring a new facility online for production, so they're talking about 1.4 billion doses produced in 2022. Total 2021 production will be a fairly small fraction of that

Found the Info on orders.
https://covidtracker.fr/vaccintracker/

There is not much moderna ordered by EU compared with Pfizer / AZ
Johnson is approved but has not started delivering yet as it looks like