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Lobby wrote: ↑Wed Apr 21, 2021 10:26 am

Saint wrote: ↑Tue Apr 20, 2021 2:49 pm Either way, the real problem is that there's travel agents now looking to charter planes to bring as many people over from India as possible before Friday

The FT has done some deeper analysis of India's figures, which make for very sobering reading, in particular their conclusion that all of the official figures are vastly undercounting the real impact, and that daily deaths could be 10X higher than officially reported, ie 17,000 a day rather than 1,700

Saint wrote: ↑Wed Apr 21, 2021 1:56 pm Some really good real world data on the efficacy of vaccines. Out of 74,000-odd recent hospital admissions for Covid, there were only 2,000 or so who had received a single dose of either vaccine. Of those, only 32 had received their dose 3 or more weeks earlier

Dinsdale Piranha wrote: ↑Wed Apr 21, 2021 2:26 pm

Saint wrote: ↑Wed Apr 21, 2021 1:56 pm Some really good real world data on the efficacy of vaccines. Out of 74,000-odd recent hospital admissions for Covid, there were only 2,000 or so who had received a single dose of either vaccine. Of those, only 32 had received their dose 3 or more weeks earlier

Also increasing evidence that the variants are not escaping the vaccines to any significant degree.

https://www.hindustantimes.com/india-ne ... 06690.html

Saint wrote: ↑Wed Apr 21, 2021 7:36 pm Heathrow has refused permits for an and additional 8 flights from India before India gets red-flagged because the Border is already so understaffed that they can't keep social distancing enforced. The CAA has also confirmed it has received a large number of applications for charter flight permits and it's refused them all

Rinkals wrote: ↑Wed Apr 21, 2021 6:01 am

Bokkom wrote: ↑Tue Apr 20, 2021 6:45 pm

Fangle wrote: ↑Mon Apr 19, 2021 2:40 pm Outdoors is much better. I was looking at the Worldometers web site by state, and it’s obvious that the southern states are overall doing much better than the northern ones as far as new cases are concerned, despite generally having few restrictions. I put it down to being outdoors.

If you live north of the 35 latitude in the Northern Hemisphere as well as south of the 35 in the Southern Hemisphere, these kind of viruses will apparently always be a bit of an issue.

You're saying that it's just the 'flu?

No different to other influenza viruses?

Before you get indignant and start attacking me for misinterpreting you, that's pretty much what it appears that you are saying. I have family members who are adamant that the whole pandemic is a hoax designed to massage the egos of scientists and politicians and they pretty much express the same opinion.

Saint wrote: ↑Wed Apr 21, 2021 7:36 pm Heathrow has refused permits for an and additional 8 flights from India before India gets red-flagged because the Border is already so understaffed that they can't keep social distancing enforced. The CAA has also confirmed it has received a large number of applications for charter flight permits and it's refused them all

A briefing document drawn up by officials at Public Health England shows that between 25 March and 7 April, 3,345 arrivals from India were registered in UK border travel data. Of those 161 - or 4.8% - tested positive for Covid-19 after a PCR test.

Biffer wrote: ↑Wed Apr 21, 2021 9:52 pm

Saint wrote: ↑Wed Apr 21, 2021 7:36 pm Heathrow has refused permits for an and additional 8 flights from India before India gets red-flagged because the Border is already so understaffed that they can't keep social distancing enforced. The CAA has also confirmed it has received a large number of applications for charter flight permits and it's refused them all

Glad to see someone is trying to act even if these fucking shysters in government won't.

Watch some kind of pressure get put on them by no 10 to change the decision.

eldanielfire wrote: ↑Tue Apr 13, 2021 11:55 am

Lobby wrote: ↑Sun Apr 11, 2021 6:54 pm

Saint wrote: ↑Sun Apr 11, 2021 6:34 pm Bad (if unsurprising) news - the director of the Chinese CDC publicly admitted today that the Chinese vaccines "aren't very good". A recent study of Sinovac vaccine as delivered in Chile shows just 3% efficacy after a single dose, and 56% after a second dose. There's no similar stufy yet on Sinopharm - China are claiming 76% after two doses but that now seems unlikely

Later, the poor man tried to walk back his remarks (doubtless after at least one arm had been broken)

For reference, Sinovac accounts for almost 90% of all vaccine delivered in Chile, and while 56% is definitely better than nothing, we need to get volumes of the higher efficacy vaccines up rapidly

That probably explains why Chile's vaccination rate, which is second only to Israel, appears to be having a negligible effect on its case and death rates.

Indeed.

Dinsdale Piranha wrote: ↑Wed Apr 21, 2021 2:26 pm

Saint wrote: ↑Wed Apr 21, 2021 1:56 pm Some really good real world data on the efficacy of vaccines. Out of 74,000-odd recent hospital admissions for Covid, there were only 2,000 or so who had received a single dose of either vaccine. Of those, only 32 had received their dose 3 or more weeks earlier

Also increasing evidence that the variants are not escaping the vaccines to any significant degree.

https://www.hindustantimes.com/india-ne ... 06690.html

Lemoentjie wrote: ↑Sun Apr 11, 2021 7:45 pm

Lobby wrote: ↑Sun Apr 11, 2021 6:54 pm That probably explains why Chile's vaccination rate, which is second only to Israel, appears to be having a negligible effect on its case and death rates.

This is not true. Chile's death rates and case rates are falling very quickly in people aged 70+ (the ones who have been vaccinated).

sorCrer wrote: ↑Thu Apr 22, 2021 8:09 am 314000 new cases registered in one day in India.

Biffer wrote: ↑Wed Apr 21, 2021 9:54 pm From the BBC story

A briefing document drawn up by officials at Public Health England shows that between 25 March and 7 April, 3,345 arrivals from India were registered in UK border travel data. Of those 161 - or 4.8% - tested positive for Covid-19 after a PCR test.

Calculon wrote: ↑Thu Apr 22, 2021 7:01 am

Lemoentjie wrote: ↑Sun Apr 11, 2021 7:45 pm

Lobby wrote: ↑Sun Apr 11, 2021 6:54 pm That probably explains why Chile's vaccination rate, which is second only to Israel, appears to be having a negligible effect on its case and death rates.

This is not true. Chile's death rates and case rates are falling very quickly in people aged 70+ (the ones who have been vaccinated).

Exactly, and the fact that a relatively poor developing country like Chile has already vaccinated a large percentage of their population, really shows up our government's farcical efforts

Covid: India sees world's highest daily cases amid oxygen shortage

India has reported 314,835 new coronavirus cases in the last 24 hours - the highest one-day tally recorded anywhere in the world.

Deaths rose by 2,104 in the same time period, India's worst daily toll.

It brings the country's total confirmed cases close to 16 million, second only to the US.

India is in the grip of a vicious second wave and an acute oxygen shortage is raising more fears about its overwhelmed health care system.

It has led Delhi's highest court to publicly criticise the central government for its handling of the oxygen crisis in the city.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-india-56826645

tabascoboy wrote: ↑Thu Apr 22, 2021 10:19 am How long do we have to wait for a day when all COVID news is optimisitc and encouraging?

Covid: India sees world's highest daily cases amid oxygen shortage

India has reported 314,835 new coronavirus cases in the last 24 hours - the highest one-day tally recorded anywhere in the world.

Deaths rose by 2,104 in the same time period, India's worst daily toll.

It brings the country's total confirmed cases close to 16 million, second only to the US.

India is in the grip of a vicious second wave and an acute oxygen shortage is raising more fears about its overwhelmed health care system.

It has led Delhi's highest court to publicly criticise the central government for its handling of the oxygen crisis in the city.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-india-56826645

Raggs wrote: ↑Thu Apr 22, 2021 10:49 am So USA has apparently placed a few more countries onto their Do Not Travel list, due to high covid levels. Including the UK and Israel....

Surely once Israel is on a list, you pretty much have to just say Do Not Travel?

Saint wrote: ↑Thu Apr 22, 2021 10:25 am And I just got my vaccination appointment confirmed for 1st May

Fangle wrote: ↑Thu Apr 22, 2021 11:21 am The local press is reporting re-infections from covid. From about last June.

Sandstorm wrote: ↑Thu Apr 22, 2021 11:30 am

Fangle wrote: ↑Thu Apr 22, 2021 11:21 am The local press is reporting re-infections from covid. From about last June.

Hmmm...less than 9 months immunity post-infection. Not a good stat.

Lobby wrote: ↑Thu Apr 22, 2021 10:54 am

Raggs wrote: ↑Thu Apr 22, 2021 10:49 am So USA has apparently placed a few more countries onto their Do Not Travel list, due to high covid levels. Including the UK and Israel....

Surely once Israel is on a list, you pretty much have to just say Do Not Travel?

Israel 1.6 cases per 100k, UK 3.7 cases per 100k, US 19.1 cases per 100k, but yes, if Israel is the measure for 'high' Covid levels, then pretty much everywhere should be off the list.

Sandstorm wrote: ↑Thu Apr 22, 2021 11:30 am

Fangle wrote: ↑Thu Apr 22, 2021 11:21 am The local press is reporting re-infections from covid. From about last June.

Hmmm...less than 9 months immunity post-infection. Not a good stat.

Slick wrote: ↑Thu Apr 22, 2021 12:29 pm I’ve just had my Moderna jab

Fangle wrote: ↑Thu Apr 22, 2021 11:50 am Looking at the Worldometers website, it reports a that USA had about 98 thousand cases per million compared to UK at about 64 thousand. But in number of deaths they are very similar at 1,800 thousand per million.

Have I got that right?

Ovals wrote: ↑Thu Apr 22, 2021 12:33 pm

Slick wrote: ↑Thu Apr 22, 2021 12:29 pm I’ve just had my Moderna jab

Had my 2nd AZ jab today.

Saint wrote: ↑Thu Apr 22, 2021 12:42 pm

Ovals wrote: ↑Thu Apr 22, 2021 12:33 pm

Slick wrote: ↑Thu Apr 22, 2021 12:29 pm I’ve just had my Moderna jab

Had my 2nd AZ jab today.

Get ready for that blood clot

Bokkom wrote: ↑Wed Apr 21, 2021 7:58 pm

Rinkals wrote: ↑Wed Apr 21, 2021 6:01 am

Bokkom wrote: ↑Tue Apr 20, 2021 6:45 pm

If you live north of the 35 latitude in the Northern Hemisphere as well as south of the 35 in the Southern Hemisphere, these kind of viruses will apparently always be a bit of an issue.

You're saying that it's just the 'flu?

No different to other influenza viruses?

Before you get indignant and start attacking me for misinterpreting you, that's pretty much what it appears that you are saying. I have family members who are adamant that the whole pandemic is a hoax designed to massage the egos of scientists and politicians and they pretty much express the same opinion.

You never disappoint. I will leave it to others to judge your "inferences".'