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GuLi wrote: Sat Apr 05, 2025 8:30 am
dpedin wrote: Sat Apr 05, 2025 8:15 am
EU didnt impose tariffs on the UK ... we asked them to! [cut]
Yeeb said the EU retaliated with tariffs, a few times on this thread - par for the course coming from your average Brexiteer. Although in his case, seemingly ex-Brexiteer? ex-Brexit-curious, in rehab?
Trans Brexit.

Trexiteer?
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geordie_6 wrote: Sat Apr 05, 2025 11:50 am https://www.reddit.com/r/TikTokCringe/s/oxZNmR2lEI

Just Obama making very valid points, as per.
The thing all these 'let's find a way for trump to run a third time' guys are forgetting is that if Trump can, Obama can. And Barack would fuck him sideways.
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Biffer wrote: Sat Apr 05, 2025 7:02 pm
geordie_6 wrote: Sat Apr 05, 2025 11:50 am https://www.reddit.com/r/TikTokCringe/s/oxZNmR2lEI

Just Obama making very valid points, as per.
The thing all these 'let's find a way for trump to run a third time' guys are forgetting is that if Trump can, Obama can. And Barack would fuck him sideways.
One of the things they were looking at was 2 consecutive terms disqualifies you.
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Raggs wrote: Sat Apr 05, 2025 7:04 pm
Biffer wrote: Sat Apr 05, 2025 7:02 pm
geordie_6 wrote: Sat Apr 05, 2025 11:50 am https://www.reddit.com/r/TikTokCringe/s/oxZNmR2lEI

Just Obama making very valid points, as per.
The thing all these 'let's find a way for trump to run a third time' guys are forgetting is that if Trump can, Obama can. And Barack would fuck him sideways.
One of the things they were looking at was 2 consecutive terms disqualifies you.
Does that exclude him from being a VP? Because if not, JD Vance runs next with Trump as VP, then steps down.
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Punter15 wrote: Sat Apr 05, 2025 7:25 pm
Raggs wrote: Sat Apr 05, 2025 7:04 pm
Biffer wrote: Sat Apr 05, 2025 7:02 pm

The thing all these 'let's find a way for trump to run a third time' guys are forgetting is that if Trump can, Obama can. And Barack would fuck him sideways.
One of the things they were looking at was 2 consecutive terms disqualifies you.
Does that exclude him from being a VP? Because if not, JD Vance runs next with Trump as VP, then steps down.
12th Amendment. "No person constitutionally ineligible to the office of president shall be eligible to that of vice-president of the United States".
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Hellraiser wrote: Sat Apr 05, 2025 10:17 am The US stock market has lost $7 trillion in value since Wednesday, and $11 trillion in total since January 20th.
Someone is going to make a killing when the market turns - and it will
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Enzedder wrote: Sat Apr 05, 2025 8:10 pm
Hellraiser wrote: Sat Apr 05, 2025 10:17 am The US stock market has lost $7 trillion in value since Wednesday, and $11 trillion in total since January 20th.
Someone is going to make a killing when the market turns - and it will
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Enzedder wrote: Sat Apr 05, 2025 8:10 pm
Hellraiser wrote: Sat Apr 05, 2025 10:17 am The US stock market has lost $7 trillion in value since Wednesday, and $11 trillion in total since January 20th.
Someone is going to make a killing when the market turns - and it will
Look up the great depression. The market fell, fell again and again and again until all the bottom pickers got burned.
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Whatever happens, Donnie will blame someone else and his moronic hate cult will lap it up.
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Punter15 wrote: Sat Apr 05, 2025 10:20 pm Whatever happens, Donnie will blame someone else and his moronic hate cult will lap it up.
Sadly this. We've had it for a decade now. Promise the earth, easy answers to complex questions and blame an invisible and seemingly undefeatable Other who traitorously ruined everything.

Always thought Orwell would edge Huxley in their respective visions of the future.
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lemonhead wrote: Sat Apr 05, 2025 7:37 pm
Punter15 wrote: Sat Apr 05, 2025 7:25 pm
Raggs wrote: Sat Apr 05, 2025 7:04 pm

One of the things they were looking at was 2 consecutive terms disqualifies you.
Does that exclude him from being a VP? Because if not, JD Vance runs next with Trump as VP, then steps down.
12th Amendment. "No person constitutionally ineligible to the office of president shall be eligible to that of vice-president of the United States".
Yep.

If they find a way the orange turd to run again, they've found a way for Obama to do it too.
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lemonhead wrote: Sun Apr 06, 2025 7:30 am
Punter15 wrote: Sat Apr 05, 2025 10:20 pm Whatever happens, Donnie will blame someone else and his moronic hate cult will lap it up.
Sadly this. We've had it for a decade now. Promise the earth, easy answers to complex questions and blame an invisible and seemingly undefeatable Other who traitorously ruined everything.

Always thought Orwell would edge Huxley in their respective visions of the future.
Oddly enough, Orwell thought Huxley's vision was more realistic. And tbh I think we're closer to Huxley. Masses sedated by entertainment and drugs, underckass out of sight etc.
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Biffer wrote: Sun Apr 06, 2025 7:43 am
lemonhead wrote: Sun Apr 06, 2025 7:30 am
Punter15 wrote: Sat Apr 05, 2025 10:20 pm Whatever happens, Donnie will blame someone else and his moronic hate cult will lap it up.
Sadly this. We've had it for a decade now. Promise the earth, easy answers to complex questions and blame an invisible and seemingly undefeatable Other who traitorously ruined everything.

Always thought Orwell would edge Huxley in their respective visions of the future.
Oddly enough, Orwell thought Huxley's vision was more realistic. And tbh I think we're closer to Huxley. Masses sedated by entertainment and drugs, underckass out of sight etc.
Oh, it was. And during the early noughties he was out of sight.

But true to form, we mostly haven't lived through the other stuff or noticed it bubbling away in the background while we enjoyed ourselves. A dying man's warning.

A mix of both is about right, but that underclass in both scenarios was kept firmly in check and wouldn't even know how to rebel. I don't think that holds if these kvnts at the top continue to upset the applecart.
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lemonhead wrote: Sun Apr 06, 2025 8:39 am
Biffer wrote: Sun Apr 06, 2025 7:43 am
lemonhead wrote: Sun Apr 06, 2025 7:30 am

Sadly this. We've had it for a decade now. Promise the earth, easy answers to complex questions and blame an invisible and seemingly undefeatable Other who traitorously ruined everything.

Always thought Orwell would edge Huxley in their respective visions of the future.
Oddly enough, Orwell thought Huxley's vision was more realistic. And tbh I think we're closer to Huxley. Masses sedated by entertainment and drugs, underckass out of sight etc.
Oh, it was. And during the early noughties he was out of sight.

But true to form, we mostly haven't lived through the other stuff or noticed it bubbling away in the background while we enjoyed ourselves. A dying man's warning.

A mix of both is about right, but that underclass in both scenarios was kept firmly in check and wouldn't even know how to rebel. I don't think that holds if these kvnts at the top continue to upset the applecart.
I Huxley, the middle class was drugged to the eyeballs to keep them in check as well - it's a recognition of Marc, that every revolution is actually led by the middle over throwing the top,using the lower as their muscle.
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lemonhead wrote: Sat Apr 05, 2025 10:18 am

Indeed, precisely two hours and 17 minutes after insisting that his policies would never change, Trump returned to Truth Social to announce excitedly that the policies were going to change: “Just had a very productive call with To Lam, General Secretary of the Communist Party of Vietnam, who told me that Vietnam wants to cut their Tariffs down to ZERO if they are able to make an agreement with the U.S. I thanked him on behalf of our Country, and said I look forward to a meeting in the near future.”
This bit of commentary perhaps bother me more than the rest. Because the Vietnamese response to the USA killing millions of its citizens was to rebuild their shattered nation/economy and as part of that sell unto the Americans things the Americans wanted. And for that Trump wants to deliver them unto poverty. Deplorable doesn't even come close for Trump, no doubt he'll raise the America first agenda, but by heavens he's a piece of shit (with perhaps apologies being needed here to redeem the good name of shit)
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I suspect that the aim here is that importers pay for the privilege of selling into the American market similar to how Amazon takes a cut of what 3rd parties sell on their website.

It's not quite tariffs, more like extortion open to vast amounts of corruption.
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