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Re: The Official Scottish Rugby Thread

Posted: Sun Aug 07, 2022 9:18 pm
by Dogbert
Dogbert wrote: Sun Aug 07, 2022 8:47 pm
S/Lt_Phillips wrote: Sun Aug 07, 2022 8:29 pm
Dogbert wrote: Sun Aug 07, 2022 8:02 pm How many years was your degree ?

What did you do in the evenings / weekends / Holidays in your Engineering degree , were they all consumed with mandatory EMS ?

Muir got no special dispensation during her 5 years at Glasgow .
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Did I say she did? No. Her achievements on the track are fantastic, never mind that she has also completed a tough degree at the same time. Even getting accepted onto a vet degree course is incredibly difficult.

However, I'm still challenging your assertion that an engineering degree is somehow mickey mouse. 4 years, I worked every summer on industrial placements and had to work pretty bloody hard thank you, including most evenings & weekends when it got to the sharp end. For context, the literature review part for the research project in final year was longer than the entire 2-year dissertation that my flat-mate submitted, and I had a design project to do as well at the same time. I take it your degree wasn't in engineering if you think it's so easy? Ever wonder why the country is short of engineers?

Media studies or social anthropology, now that's mickey-mouse.
Actually , I didn't say that Engineering was a Mickey Mouse degree

I was merely pointing out that Muir woulld have more time to concentrate on running with what are often called 'Mickey Mouse Degrees ,even with a more intellectually rigorus degree as Engineering , she still would have had more time to concentrate on running compared to Vet Med

My First Degree was in Medicine , then decided to athe a complete break after my SSC with the Light Infantry to take my Second degree in Forestry , with my MSC in Forestry Management at Trinty Oxford , all which were challenging in their own ways , all now , many many years ago, ,but none of them as all time consuming as my son's Vet Med degree
S/Lt_Phillips wrote: Sun Aug 07, 2022 9:07 pm
Dogbert wrote: Sun Aug 07, 2022 8:47 pm Actually , I didn't say that Engineering was a Mickey Mouse degree

I was merely pointing out that Muir woulld have more time to concentrate on running with what are often called 'Mickey Mouse Degrees ,even with a more intellectually rigorus degree as Engineering , she still would have had more time to concentrate on running compared to Vet Med

My First Degree was in Medicine , then decided to athe a complete break after my SSC with the Light Infantry to take my Second degree in Forestry , with my MSC in Forestry Management at Trinty Oxford , all which were challenging in their own ways , all now , many many years ago, ,but none of them as all time consuming as my son's Vet Med degree
You're right, though it did come across that way. I think picking engineering degrees was a poor choice to illustrate your point though. Nevertheless, apologies.

Decent CV btw. That's quite a career change!

Hah , It's me who should be saying sorry

Actually I did need to pick a rigorous degree , so deliberately chose Engineering as I knew an Engineer would read it and bite :grin: ]

Forestry didn't pay well , and with a young family to provide for , and being in Aberdeen , it was off to the rigs.

Eventually going on to found my own Well Services Company , which I sold a couple of years ago , so sort of semi retired now

I've employed lots of engineers in my time , and if there is one thing that really winds them up is being told there degree wasn't really challenging - sorry :oops:

Re: The Official Scottish Rugby Thread

Posted: Sun Aug 07, 2022 9:19 pm
by Dogbert
Dogbert wrote: Sun Aug 07, 2022 9:18 pm
Dogbert wrote: Sun Aug 07, 2022 8:47 pm
S/Lt_Phillips wrote: Sun Aug 07, 2022 8:29 pm

Actually , I didn't say that Engineering was a Mickey Mouse degree

I was merely pointing out that Muir woulld have more time to concentrate on running with what are often called 'Mickey Mouse Degrees ,even with a more intellectually rigorus degree as Engineering , she still would have had more time to concentrate on running compared to Vet Med

My First Degree was in Medicine , then decided to athe a complete break after my SSC with the Light Infantry to take my Second degree in Forestry , with my MSC in Forestry Management at Trinty Oxford , all which were challenging in their own ways , all now , many many years ago, ,but none of them as all time consuming as my son's Vet Med degree
S/Lt_Phillips wrote: Sun Aug 07, 2022 9:07 pm



Hah , It's me who should be saying sorry

Actually I did need to pick a rigorous degree , so deliberately chose Engineering as I knew an Engineer would read it and bite :grin: ]

Forestry didn't pay well , and with a young family to provide for , and being in Aberdeen , it was off to the rigs.

Eventually going on to found my own Well Services Company , which I sold a couple of years ago , so sort of semi retired now

I've employed lots of engineers in my time , and if there is one thing that really winds them up is being told there degree wasn't really challenging - sorry :oops:

Re: The Official Scottish Rugby Thread

Posted: Sun Aug 07, 2022 9:20 pm
by Jock42
Why the LI?

Re: The Official Scottish Rugby Thread

Posted: Sun Aug 07, 2022 9:28 pm
by Slick
Obviously didn’t do 3rd degree in quote functions

Re: The Official Scottish Rugby Thread

Posted: Sun Aug 07, 2022 9:31 pm
by S/Lt_Phillips
Dogbert wrote: Sun Aug 07, 2022 9:19 pm
Dogbert wrote: Sun Aug 07, 2022 9:18 pm
Dogbert wrote: Sun Aug 07, 2022 8:47 pm
Haha! Bastard :mad: :lol:

Re: The Official Scottish Rugby Thread

Posted: Sun Aug 07, 2022 10:01 pm
by Tichtheid
There aren't, or shouldn't be any Mickey Mouse degrees.

Engineering degrees are a bit like maths at school, you are given the formulas and you do hundreds/thousands of repetitions before sitting an exam which will use the same repetitions.

Arts and Humanities teach methods of discussing a premise and putting forward an argument.

Social Sciences use the methods of the first to achieve the second.

Some people are suited to one of those over the others, if you are lucky you choose correctly at age 18.

This is necessarily reductive.

Re: The Official Scottish Rugby Thread

Posted: Sun Aug 07, 2022 10:56 pm
by Dogbert
Jock42 wrote: Sun Aug 07, 2022 9:20 pmWhy the LI?
Third Generation RGJ - not really an option to go anywhere else

Re: The Official Scottish Rugby Thread

Posted: Sun Aug 07, 2022 11:07 pm
by Biffer
Let's get back to celebrating the CG team. Another bronze in the 4x400 relay after the English ladies got disqualified.

Re: The Official Scottish Rugby Thread

Posted: Sun Aug 07, 2022 11:42 pm
by Dogbert
Indeed , Apparently this has been Scotland's most successfully Commonwealth Games , outside of our Home Games

49 medals - 12 gold, 11 silver, and 26 bronze - with one day of competition left.

A Fantastic result. , lots of hard work, effort, along with the inevitable setbacks & injuries go into such a performance , most of us can only stand back and applaud

Re: The Official Scottish Rugby Thread

Posted: Mon Aug 08, 2022 12:06 pm
by Biffer
Another two medals on the final day, Gold in the mixed 3m diving and bronze in the squash mens doubles.

51 medals, just two short of the home games in Glasgow. Fantastic stuff.

Re: The Official Scottish Rugby Thread

Posted: Mon Aug 08, 2022 12:07 pm
by Biffer

Re: The Official Scottish Rugby Thread

Posted: Tue Aug 09, 2022 10:41 am
by dpedin
Biffer wrote: Mon Aug 08, 2022 12:06 pm Another two medals on the final day, Gold in the mixed 3m diving and bronze in the squash mens doubles.

51 medals, just two short of the home games in Glasgow. Fantastic stuff.
Per size of population we have done pretty well when compared to some of the bigger countries. Delighted!

Re: The Official Scottish Rugby Thread

Posted: Wed Aug 10, 2022 8:48 am
by Slick
Great to have the festival back!

Had a cracking night at the Fringe last night and saw a couple of great comedy shows. It's pretty cool, particularly in a UK context, that you can have such a massive event with folk from all over and have such a friendly atmosphere.

Re: The Official Scottish Rugby Thread

Posted: Thu Aug 11, 2022 11:10 am
by dpedin
Slick wrote: Wed Aug 10, 2022 8:48 am Great to have the festival back!

Had a cracking night at the Fringe last night and saw a couple of great comedy shows. It's pretty cool, particularly in a UK context, that you can have such a massive event with folk from all over and have such a friendly atmosphere.
Mate was staying over on Saturday so we went up town to visit a few pop up bars and wander round. George Square was mobbed but bars in Teviot Row and behind McEwan Hall etc were quieter. Its nice to sit outside in nice warm weather with a few beers and agree that the friendly atmosphere is brilliant. As usual we had too many beers including some nice Weissbier in Bauhaus Bar on the way home. Might do it again ....

Re: The Official Scottish Rugby Thread

Posted: Thu Aug 11, 2022 12:03 pm
by Dogbert
Excited to see the sublime Malin Byström as Salome at the Usher Hall on Sunday

Anyway - as this is a Rugby Thread ....

I see Ross Thompson has had surgery on his back and will miss the opening matches of the season. and Pieretto has has surgery on his shoulder and is out until November.

Can see why Glasgow have brought in Hodgson and Sordoni

Re: The Official Scottish Rugby Thread

Posted: Thu Aug 11, 2022 2:16 pm
by I like neeps
Dogbert wrote: Thu Aug 11, 2022 12:03 pm Excited to see the sublime Malin Byström as Salome at the Usher Hall on Sunday

Anyway - as this is a Rugby Thread ....

I see Ross Thompson has had surgery on his back and will miss the opening matches of the season. and Pieretto has has surgery on his shoulder and is out until November.

Can see why Glasgow have brought in Hodgson and Sordoni
Should be playing McLaren rather than Sordoni. Sordoni has been crocked for a while, is the same age, and only has three games. Why are the SRU signing these guys and not playing McLaren?

Re: The Official Scottish Rugby Thread

Posted: Thu Aug 11, 2022 6:14 pm
by KingBlairhorn
I like neeps wrote: Thu Aug 11, 2022 2:16 pm
Dogbert wrote: Thu Aug 11, 2022 12:03 pm Excited to see the sublime Malin Byström as Salome at the Usher Hall on Sunday

Anyway - as this is a Rugby Thread ....

I see Ross Thompson has had surgery on his back and will miss the opening matches of the season. and Pieretto has has surgery on his shoulder and is out until November.

Can see why Glasgow have brought in Hodgson and Sordoni
Should be playing McLaren rather than Sordoni. Sordoni has been crocked for a while, is the same age, and only has three games. Why are the SRU signing these guys and not playing McLaren?
Maybe they will play McLaren but need someone in case he gets injured whilst Pieretto is out.

Re: The Official Scottish Rugby Thread

Posted: Thu Aug 11, 2022 6:32 pm
by I like neeps
KingBlairhorn wrote: Thu Aug 11, 2022 6:14 pm
I like neeps wrote: Thu Aug 11, 2022 2:16 pm
Dogbert wrote: Thu Aug 11, 2022 12:03 pm Excited to see the sublime Malin Byström as Salome at the Usher Hall on Sunday

Anyway - as this is a Rugby Thread ....

I see Ross Thompson has had surgery on his back and will miss the opening matches of the season. and Pieretto has has surgery on his shoulder and is out until November.

Can see why Glasgow have brought in Hodgson and Sordoni
Should be playing McLaren rather than Sordoni. Sordoni has been crocked for a while, is the same age, and only has three games. Why are the SRU signing these guys and not playing McLaren?
Maybe they will play McLaren but need someone in case he gets injured whilst Pieretto is out.
McLaren isn't with the squad (hasn't been included in any of the press releases but Old Glory plodders have) so that's not the case.

Re: The Official Scottish Rugby Thread

Posted: Fri Aug 12, 2022 8:45 am
by KingBlairhorn
I like neeps wrote: Thu Aug 11, 2022 6:32 pm
KingBlairhorn wrote: Thu Aug 11, 2022 6:14 pm
I like neeps wrote: Thu Aug 11, 2022 2:16 pm

Should be playing McLaren rather than Sordoni. Sordoni has been crocked for a while, is the same age, and only has three games. Why are the SRU signing these guys and not playing McLaren?
Maybe they will play McLaren but need someone in case he gets injured whilst Pieretto is out.
McLaren isn't with the squad (hasn't been included in any of the press releases but Old Glory plodders have) so that's not the case.
I'm confusing McLaren with Murphy Walker. Did McLaren not join Edinburgh last season on a short term deal when Gamble joined London Scottish? Perhaps he is going to move across permanently. He was aligned with Heriot's, so that would make more sense than traipsing back and forward between Edinburgh and Glasgow.

Re: The Official Scottish Rugby Thread

Posted: Fri Aug 12, 2022 9:33 am
by Tichtheid
Cole Lamberton was in the Embra academy last season, but he isn't in the squad anymore, though he is still with 'Sonians, he anchored their S6 pack last week, so who knows what is happening with these young props?

Re: The Official Scottish Rugby Thread

Posted: Fri Aug 12, 2022 10:06 am
by I like neeps
KingBlairhorn wrote: Fri Aug 12, 2022 8:45 am
I like neeps wrote: Thu Aug 11, 2022 6:32 pm
KingBlairhorn wrote: Thu Aug 11, 2022 6:14 pm

Maybe they will play McLaren but need someone in case he gets injured whilst Pieretto is out.
McLaren isn't with the squad (hasn't been included in any of the press releases but Old Glory plodders have) so that's not the case.
I'm confusing McLaren with Murphy Walker. Did McLaren not join Edinburgh last season on a short term deal when Gamble joined London Scottish? Perhaps he is going to move across permanently. He was aligned with Heriot's, so that would make more sense than traipsing back and forward between Edinburgh and Glasgow.
No, Edinburgh registered him for Europe but he didn't appear and they loaned in THs when in a real pinch.

Re: The Official Scottish Rugby Thread

Posted: Fri Aug 12, 2022 7:26 pm
by Slick
SRU website saying the S6 is on Freesports on Freeview. Freeview saying they stopped Freesports in July.

FFS

Re: The Official Scottish Rugby Thread

Posted: Fri Aug 12, 2022 7:28 pm
by robmatic
I'm watching Southern Knights & Boroughmuir Bears in the Super 6. Looks a cracking night for watching rugby but not many folk there, which is a shame.

Re: The Official Scottish Rugby Thread

Posted: Fri Aug 12, 2022 7:29 pm
by robmatic
Slick wrote: Fri Aug 12, 2022 7:26 pm SRU website saying the S6 is on Freesports on Freeview. Freeview saying they stopped Freesports in July.

FFS
Is there a Freesports app?

Re: The Official Scottish Rugby Thread

Posted: Fri Aug 12, 2022 7:55 pm
by GrahamWa
Think you need to watch it online, decent match.
FreeSports is available on Sky HD channel 422, Virgin HD 553, Samsung TV Plus and also available on the FreeSports Player — www.freesportsplayer.tv.

Re: The Official Scottish Rugby Thread

Posted: Fri Aug 12, 2022 7:59 pm
by Tichtheid
Melrose is a lovely place to play rugby

I can’t say the quality of game is as attractive as the backdrop

Re: The Official Scottish Rugby Thread

Posted: Fri Aug 12, 2022 8:00 pm
by Tichtheid
Who is Jack Berghan?

Is he any relation to the big Kiwi?

Re: The Official Scottish Rugby Thread

Posted: Fri Aug 12, 2022 8:09 pm
by robmatic
Tichtheid wrote: Fri Aug 12, 2022 8:00 pm Who is Jack Berghan?

Is he any relation to the big Kiwi?
It's Bergin.

Re: The Official Scottish Rugby Thread

Posted: Fri Aug 12, 2022 8:09 pm
by Tichtheid
robmatic wrote: Fri Aug 12, 2022 8:09 pm
Tichtheid wrote: Fri Aug 12, 2022 8:00 pm Who is Jack Berghan?

Is he any relation to the big Kiwi?
It's Bergin.
Ah cheers

No relation then

Re: The Official Scottish Rugby Thread

Posted: Fri Aug 12, 2022 11:01 pm
by Jock42
Dogbert wrote: Sun Aug 07, 2022 10:56 pm
Jock42 wrote: Sun Aug 07, 2022 9:20 pmWhy the LI?
Third Generation RGJ - not really an option to go anywhere else
Did Sandhurst try to send you down the RAMC route?

Re: The Official Scottish Rugby Thread

Posted: Fri Aug 12, 2022 11:37 pm
by Tichtheid
I built a fence at Sandhurst.

I had a run in with one or two of the uniformed lot whilst I was doing it. One of them with stripes pulled me up on protective gear.
I pointed out I didn't work for him so he could fuck the fuck off.

Not a happy bunny.

Another time I was passing a personnel carrier with the tractor, said tractor had a post rammer on the back. Long story short, the post rammer is made up of RSJs and the point of one of them was sticking out, I managed to rip a long cut along the side of the personnel carrier.
Another officer type didn't believe I lived in France at the time and was only there for that job.
I maintain that the driver of the military vehicle should have pulled over further, he had room to do so, I didn't.

Re: The Official Scottish Rugby Thread

Posted: Sun Aug 14, 2022 9:27 am
by Biffer
Definitely not that easy to win in Argentina

Re: The Official Scottish Rugby Thread

Posted: Sun Aug 14, 2022 11:17 am
by Deepsouth
Biffer wrote: Sun Aug 14, 2022 9:27 am Definitely not that easy to win in Argentina
Particularly if you are down 17 injured first choice players as the Wallabies were. Good development opportunities though.....

Re: The Official Scottish Rugby Thread

Posted: Sun Aug 14, 2022 3:10 pm
by Dogbert
Jock42 wrote: Fri Aug 12, 2022 11:01 pm
Dogbert wrote: Sun Aug 07, 2022 10:56 pm
Jock42 wrote: Sun Aug 07, 2022 9:20 pmWhy the LI?
Third Generation RGJ - not really an option to go anywhere else
Did Sandhurst try to send you down the RAMC route?
Funnily enough No , I was pretty set on what I wanted to do , Although I was born in Glasgow , I drew up from the age of 4 in Belfast , and left with a heavy Belfast accent ( which I can still go into when pissed ) , The Army agreed that the background was 'useful' ( I was shit a medicine anyway - it was a win/win for everyone )

Re: The Official Scottish Rugby Thread

Posted: Sun Aug 14, 2022 8:22 pm
by Jock42
Dogbert wrote: Sun Aug 14, 2022 3:10 pm
Jock42 wrote: Fri Aug 12, 2022 11:01 pm
Dogbert wrote: Sun Aug 07, 2022 10:56 pm

Third Generation RGJ - not really an option to go anywhere else
Did Sandhurst try to send you down the RAMC route?
Funnily enough No , I was pretty set on what I wanted to do , Although I was born in Glasgow , I drew up from the age of 4 in Belfast , and left with a heavy Belfast accent ( which I can still go into when pissed ) , The Army agreed that the background was 'useful' ( I was shit a medicine anyway - it was a win/win for everyone )
I'm assuming you never registered then. It's good to hear you were able to pursue the trade your family wanted 😂😉

A bit late to the dick swinging party bit as of Friday past I also have a degree 😂

Re: The Official Scottish Rugby Thread

Posted: Sun Aug 14, 2022 10:00 pm
by Dogbert
Congratulations Jock , you are part of a noble profession ( One I could not hack )

You will make a diffence to countless of peoples , and their friends and families lives. Not many people make that achievement

Kudos to you Sir , :clap:

Re: The Official Scottish Rugby Thread

Posted: Mon Aug 15, 2022 8:07 am
by Jock42
Thanks mate. Nothing as fancy as medicine though. Just a top up degree in paramedic practice.

Re: The Official Scottish Rugby Thread

Posted: Tue Aug 16, 2022 8:30 am
by charltom
Is there a URC Premier Sports deal this season?

Re: The Official Scottish Rugby Thread

Posted: Tue Aug 16, 2022 12:13 pm
by KingBlairhorn
charltom wrote: Tue Aug 16, 2022 8:30 am Is there a URC Premier Sports deal this season?
Haven't seen one. They got taken over by Viaplay during the summer so their cash requirements probably aren't quite as stark as previous years. I don't doubt there will be deals to be had at some point, but I doubt the discounts will be as deep nor the overall subscription cost as low as previous years.

Edit: they have a planned UK launch in October, so any discounts will probably tie in with that. They'll be called Viaplay Sports Network.

Re: The Official Scottish Rugby Thread

Posted: Tue Aug 16, 2022 3:46 pm
by KingBlairhorn
Fin Richardson, 24yo tighthead prop, has signed for Exeter. You may remember his dad (Guy) who was Scotland team manager and also team manager for a lions tour. He was born and brought up in Edinburgh, and moved to Exeter to complete a law degree. Another tighthead prop out of nowhere would be well received. Fingers crossed he gets some gametime.