NPR

Jim Lahey wrote: Tue Apr 04, 2023 10:31 am Aren't the top-end pro contracts only 30k euros?

Lucky to be able to afford a cardboard box in Dublin on that money tbf. How much are the English/French/Welsh/Scottish/Italian ladies getting?

Jim Lahey wrote: Tue Apr 04, 2023 10:31 am Aren't the top-end pro contracts only 30k euros?

Lucky to be able to afford a cardboard box in Dublin on that money tbf. How much are the English/French/Welsh/Scottish/Italian ladies getting?

Players now receive between £26,000 and £33,000 per year for their England involvement.
The RFU told BBC Sport that match fees "vary across Test matches and tournaments" and "all 36 players in camp receive this fee, not just the matchday 23".
It is understood the RFU has increased the value of contracts by about 15-20% in the past year, with the vast majority of the union's revenue still coming from men's Tests at Twickenham.

EnergiseR2 wrote: Mon Apr 03, 2023 9:01 pm

Jim Lahey wrote: Sun Apr 02, 2023 4:15 pm Ireland for the Wooden Spoon again I assume?

Pretty embarrassing getting smashed by 50 odd points against 14 players.

I have a lot of sympathy for that team. They are extremely callow, the fucking OH is 19 playing outside a newly capped SH and various shades of kid around. They are inevitably going to get milled out of it. I hold McWilliams also responsible as he has failed to get that message clearly across. There is a no excuses shtick and there is reality. The scrum half scenario is a good example. Few caps and was a wing. They have decided to stick her in there as she can pass and break. First match he moves her to the wing after a short while and puts on someone who couldn't hot a barndoor so moves her back into scrumhalf before the end. Brilliant management. He then tops it. He starts her again at scrumhalf and she goes pretty well. Nice passing, few breaks. Positionally a bit to learn but no howlers bar maybe one tracking a player after they passed should have gone harder as they got the return pass and scored. What's he do to the girl going well enough? Pulls her off completely at 50 mins and puts on another can't hit a barndoor. There would be howls of derision if a manager was doing that to a young lad. Anyway at half time against England he didn't know the score. He didn't realise the try had been disallowed. Had he gone to the jacks?

EnergiseR2 wrote: Tue Apr 04, 2023 8:02 pm Everyone is doing a poor job on this in Ireland. The IRFU have decided it is getting equal or near equal billing with the men's game. This is not some fluffy equality thing but tapping into a big market. They absolutely know they don't have the players and are neglecting to tell the public who have turned viciously on this group of young women. Online is a cesspool anyway but the glee at their demise is startling- all weirdo men. I have not been that bothered with women's rugby but by fuck I'll support it now if this is how they are going to be treated. The fucling commentator, a women, stuck the knife in constantly against Wales. Why? She knew they were kids.

Uncle fester wrote: Sun Apr 16, 2023 7:20 pm

EnergiseR2 wrote: Tue Apr 04, 2023 8:02 pm Everyone is doing a poor job on this in Ireland. The IRFU have decided it is getting equal or near equal billing with the men's game. This is not some fluffy equality thing but tapping into a big market. They absolutely know they don't have the players and are neglecting to tell the public who have turned viciously on this group of young women. Online is a cesspool anyway but the glee at their demise is startling- all weirdo men. I have not been that bothered with women's rugby but by fuck I'll support it now if this is how they are going to be treated. The fucling commentator, a women, stuck the knife in constantly against Wales. Why? She knew they were kids.

The AIL is fücked. It's effectively a 3 team league and the big 3 work to keep it that way. Cronin has been having regular tantrums on twatter one of which was a Rassie-style rant on refs who he blamed as being one of the reasons why Ireland didn't make the world cup.

He's done an excellent job of deflecting attention to his own team's part in the failure of the AIL to prep players for international rugby.

EnergiseR2 wrote: Sun Apr 16, 2023 7:36 pm Which Cronin?

I didn’t say this on here at the time because she was still working there, but my missus ran weddings and events for a few years at a hotel in Dublin that the girls team stay in before their home games.

After a match a couple of years back, they trashed a banquet room and physically assaulted a couple of staff at the hotel. There was war about it and the IRFU got a massive bill for the damage. She said that in general, they were about as rude and unlikable a group as you’d ever come across.

She’s switched career now so I don’t care about bringing it up, but I remember reading a few comments on here at the time and thinking they made sense.

laurent wrote: Sun Apr 16, 2023 7:36 pm

Uncle fester wrote: Sun Apr 16, 2023 7:20 pm

EnergiseR2 wrote: Tue Apr 04, 2023 8:02 pm Everyone is doing a poor job on this in Ireland. The IRFU have decided it is getting equal or near equal billing with the men's game. This is not some fluffy equality thing but tapping into a big market. They absolutely know they don't have the players and are neglecting to tell the public who have turned viciously on this group of young women. Online is a cesspool anyway but the glee at their demise is startling- all weirdo men. I have not been that bothered with women's rugby but by fuck I'll support it now if this is how they are going to be treated. The fucling commentator, a women, stuck the knife in constantly against Wales. Why? She knew they were kids.

The AIL is fücked. It's effectively a 3 team league and the big 3 work to keep it that way. Cronin has been having regular tantrums on twatter one of which was a Rassie-style rant on refs who he blamed as being one of the reasons why Ireland didn't make the world cup.

He's done an excellent job of deflecting attention to his own team's part in the failure of the AIL to prep players for international rugby.

That is disastrous. The Irish sis have some measure of success (a few years back) however this is looking terrible right now. Scotland and Wales are equally poor and Italy can put in a performance every now and then. The Unions need to get a move on I watched the U18 and there was not team that really threatened the French (the welsh got lucky with the weather so lost 7 -0 in a downpour) but overall they overplayed all comers.

This is not looking great for the competition when you dish out 50 points (as long as it's not pissing down).

laurent wrote: Sun Apr 16, 2023 4:43 pm Little interest it seems in the 6 nations.

France and England likely to fight for the win and a slam.

Ireland really in the shits with terrible com and all the older wiser player gone. Wales showed they can beat Ireland and the Scots however completely outclassed by England (will watch that one later)

Ovals wrote: Mon Apr 17, 2023 3:23 pm

laurent wrote: Sun Apr 16, 2023 4:43 pm Little interest it seems in the 6 nations.

France and England likely to fight for the win and a slam.

Ireland really in the shits with terrible com and all the older wiser player gone. Wales showed they can beat Ireland and the Scots however completely outclassed by England (will watch that one later)

To be fair, Wales matched England for the 1st 20-30 minutes and put them under a lot pf pressure - especially at the breakdown. Unfortunatley they fell away rapidly after that and it was one way traffic in the 2nd half. But, that 1st 30 mins showed considerable promise.

EnergiseR2 wrote: Mon Apr 17, 2023 8:00 am

Uncle fester wrote: Sun Apr 16, 2023 9:02 pm

EnergiseR2 wrote: Sun Apr 16, 2023 7:36 pm Which Cronin?

This gowl.


"Oh why is the league so poor? The bottom teams need to improve so we can poach all their better players and maintain our position."

Ahhh Railway. They are a book unto themselves. He is a cheeky bastard writing all that knowing how they go about their business. Funnily enough had an argument with someone about them recently. Tgey want cash and tickets. Thats it. Nothing more.

I heard about the old crew of players and the response of some of them to this young team has been pathetic and almost gleeful. That's both from the point of view of being glad that the big bad IRFU is failing and most importantly of all failing without the amazing them

Uncle fester wrote: Sun Apr 16, 2023 9:07 pm Also this post gives a hint why the union have been keen to see the last lot of players depart the international scene.
https://forum.planetrugby.com/viewtopic ... 0#p7516890

I didn’t say this on here at the time because she was still working there, but my missus ran weddings and events for a few years at a hotel in Dublin that the girls team stay in before their home games.

After a match a couple of years back, they trashed a banquet room and physically assaulted a couple of staff at the hotel. There was war about it and the IRFU got a massive bill for the damage. She said that in general, they were about as rude and unlikable a group as you’d ever come across.

She’s switched career now so I don’t care about bringing it up, but I remember reading a few comments on here at the time and thinking they made sense.

TheNatalShark wrote: Sat Apr 22, 2023 5:15 pm Scotland doing their best at this moment to try lose this, defending with too much width

ASMO wrote: Mon Apr 24, 2023 6:53 am Englands bench options are also ridiculous too, most of whom could easily be starters. When you think of who is still missing, Scarrett, Cleal, Infante, Ward, they are just getting stronger.

Ovals wrote: Tue Apr 25, 2023 9:45 am

ASMO wrote: Mon Apr 24, 2023 6:53 am Englands bench options are also ridiculous too, most of whom could easily be starters. When you think of who is still missing, Scarrett, Cleal, Infante, Ward, they are just getting stronger.

We could do with Packer, Cleal and Cokayne all being fit for the France game. Packer, in particular, has an enormous influence on how well we play.

SaintK wrote: Sat Apr 29, 2023 12:56 pm England 33-0 up at half time against France at Twickenham.
Took them 15 minutes to settle and then a blitz of tries.
France down to 13 players for last few minutes of the half

laurent wrote: Sat Apr 29, 2023 1:22 pm

SaintK wrote: Sat Apr 29, 2023 12:56 pm England 33-0 up at half time against France at Twickenham.
Took them 15 minutes to settle and then a blitz of tries.
France down to 13 players for last few minutes of the half

Whereas England Should have had at least their 9 yellowed... Somehow it's only a penalty when you take a player out in the air in your 5 meters.

Even the Scotish ref is not that blinkered.

Going to be a drubbing (not watching anymore it's too one sided). (60+ 0) worse than Ireland or Scotland. I feel Sorry for Jessie.

Tichtheid wrote: Sat Apr 29, 2023 2:07 pm

laurent wrote: Sat Apr 29, 2023 1:22 pm

SaintK wrote: Sat Apr 29, 2023 12:56 pm England 33-0 up at half time against France at Twickenham.
Took them 15 minutes to settle and then a blitz of tries.
France down to 13 players for last few minutes of the half

Whereas England Should have had at least their 9 yellowed... Somehow it's only a penalty when you take a player out in the air in your 5 meters.

Even the Scotish ref is not that blinkered.

Going to be a drubbing (not watching anymore it's too one sided). (60+ 0) worse than Ireland or Scotland. I feel Sorry for Jessie.

The second half was a different game entirely, it was all France, it ended up 38-33. I only saw the last twenty minutes but it was said that France missed a few conversions and penalties

Tichtheid wrote: Sat Apr 29, 2023 2:07 pm

laurent wrote: Sat Apr 29, 2023 1:22 pm

SaintK wrote: Sat Apr 29, 2023 12:56 pm England 33-0 up at half time against France at Twickenham.
Took them 15 minutes to settle and then a blitz of tries.
France down to 13 players for last few minutes of the half

Whereas England Should have had at least their 9 yellowed... Somehow it's only a penalty when you take a player out in the air in your 5 meters.

Even the Scotish ref is not that blinkered.

Going to be a drubbing (not watching anymore it's too one sided). (60+ 0) worse than Ireland or Scotland. I feel Sorry for Jessie.

The second half was a different game entirely, it was all France, it ended up 38-33. I only saw the last twenty minutes but it was said that France missed a few conversions and penalties

SaintK wrote: Sat Apr 29, 2023 3:29 pm

Tichtheid wrote: Sat Apr 29, 2023 2:07 pm

laurent wrote: Sat Apr 29, 2023 1:22 pm

Whereas England Should have had at least their 9 yellowed... Somehow it's only a penalty when you take a player out in the air in your 5 meters.

Even the Scotish ref is not that blinkered.

Going to be a drubbing (not watching anymore it's too one sided). (60+ 0) worse than Ireland or Scotland. I feel Sorry for Jessie.

The second half was a different game entirely, it was all France, it ended up 38-33. I only saw the last twenty minutes but it was said that France missed a few conversions and penalties

Bloody hell
That was close. Had to go out so missed it

Happyhooker wrote: Sun Apr 30, 2023 12:03 pm Twickenham was excellent yesterday. Really good crowd, much more interested in the rugby than the usual braying Twickenham arseholes. Decent game as well, the french comeback was excellent.

The historical aspect of the game also seemed to mean a lot to people.

Although if you were an academic researching the behavioural patterns of drunk lesbians, Twickenham high st after the game would have given you years of research data

eldanielfire wrote: Tue May 02, 2023 12:21 pm Almsot Rugby pass is claiming John Mitchell will take over form Middleton in a move nobody saw coming at all. Great tos ee the RFU are going big. Be interesting if he's the right guy.

Niegs wrote: Tue May 02, 2023 1:36 pm

eldanielfire wrote: Tue May 02, 2023 12:21 pm Almsot Rugby pass is claiming John Mitchell will take over form Middleton in a move nobody saw coming at all. Great tos ee the RFU are going big. Be interesting if he's the right guy.

What is his actual claim to fame in recent years? I’d be more interested to see someone who’s an actual thinking person’s coach (assuming he’s not, maybe he is?). England have the talent already to be the best, could seemingly do with a player’s manager to ensure they’re maximizing talent than someone who might be more of a ‘do as I say’ master strategist.

Happyhooker wrote: Sun Apr 30, 2023 12:03 pm Twickenham was excellent yesterday. Really good crowd, much more interested in the rugby than the usual braying Twickenham arseholes. Decent game as well, the french comeback was excellent.

The historical aspect of the game also seemed to mean a lot to people.

Although if you were an academic researching the behavioural patterns of drunk lesbians, Twickenham high st after the game would have given you years of research data

Niegs wrote: Tue May 02, 2023 1:36 pm

eldanielfire wrote: Tue May 02, 2023 12:21 pm Almsot Rugby pass is claiming John Mitchell will take over form Middleton in a move nobody saw coming at all. Great tos ee the RFU are going big. Be interesting if he's the right guy.

What is his actual claim to fame in recent years? I’d be more interested to see someone who’s an actual thinking person’s coach (assuming he’s not, maybe he is?). England have the talent already to be the best, could seemingly do with a player’s manager to ensure they’re maximizing talent than someone who might be more of a ‘do as I say’ master strategist.