President Trump and US politics catchall

[Niegs]

[Gumboot]

[Niegs]

Had to chuckle in the middle of this, assuming it was from a day or two ago, when Jon says Trump vs Musk is staged or something like that.

[Guy Smiley]

This is really like watching South Africa v Ireland, you don’t care who wins, as long as one of them loses

[Kiwias]

This is really like watching Australia v England, you don’t care who wins, as long as one of them loses

FTFY

[Guy Smiley]

[geordie_6]

Saw a headline about them wanting to create an A Vs P expanded "universe", is this what they actually meant?

[Yeeb]

Does anyone else feel like they are in a loop in the matrix and reality has taken a back step ? V funny what’s occurring and those memes are top class.
Just saddens me how such utter useless childish bellends can become the most powerful and richest men in the world.

[Hal Jordan]

This is really like watching South Africa v Ireland, you don’t care who wins, as long as one of them loses

The problem is, one side wins and then you never hear the end of it.

[Slick]

This is really like watching South Africa v Ireland, you don’t care who wins, as long as one of them loses

The problem is, one side wins and then you never hear the end of it.

I never said it was fool proof

[Kiwias]

Does anyone else feel like they are in a loop in the matrix and reality has taken a back step ? V funny what’s occurring and those memes are top class.
Just saddens me how such utter useless childish bellends can become the most powerful and richest men in the world.

This

[Rhubarb & Custard]

Saw a headline about them wanting to create an A Vs P expanded "universe", is this what they actually meant?

Trump needed something to after doodling a solution to P=NP on a napkin one Wednesday morning

[sockwithaticket]

Does anyone else feel like they are in a loop in the matrix and reality has taken a back step ? V funny what’s occurring and those memes are top class.
Just saddens me how such utter useless childish bellends can become the most powerful and richest men in the world.

To quote Rebecca Shaw of the Guardian - "I knew one day I’d have to watch powerful men burn the world down – I just didn’t expect them to be such losers".

There are men like Trump and Musk everywhere, but we don't hear about their vainglory, childishness and desperate need for approval because they weren't born wealthy enough to constantly fail upwards. When they're not rich and able to propagandise at a mass scale, these types are largely scorned by society.

[Yeeb]

Does anyone else feel like they are in a loop in the matrix and reality has taken a back step ? V funny what’s occurring and those memes are top class.
Just saddens me how such utter useless childish bellends can become the most powerful and richest men in the world.

To quote Rebecca Shaw of the Guardian - "I knew one day I’d have to watch powerful men burn the world down – I just didn’t expect them to be such losers".

There are men like Trump and Musk everywhere, but we don't hear about their vainglory, childishness and desperate need for approval because they weren't born wealthy enough to constantly fail upwards. When they're not rich and able to propagandise at a mass scale, these types are largely scorned by society.

I can’t help but think that going back nearly a century , when inhabitants of Germany Russia and Italy for example were giving a critique of their leaders , they may have hated them for being evil dictators , but at least they could legit also think ‘hmmm we are getting lots of nice new farms / roads / factories / trains run on time’ type competence. Trump and musk now don’t actualy seem capable of anything lest of all be civil to one another, literally seen toddlers in a sandpit behave better.

[Rhubarb & Custard]

I did like the line, perhaps even penned by Gervais, 'if Donald Trump didn't have money he'd be David Brent'

[dpedin]

Does anyone else feel like they are in a loop in the matrix and reality has taken a back step ? V funny what’s occurring and those memes are top class.
Just saddens me how such utter useless childish bellends can become the most powerful and richest men in the world.

To quote Rebecca Shaw of the Guardian - "I knew one day I’d have to watch powerful men burn the world down – I just didn’t expect them to be such losers".

There are men like Trump and Musk everywhere, but we don't hear about their vainglory, childishness and desperate need for approval because they weren't born wealthy enough to constantly fail upwards. When they're not rich and able to propagandise at a mass scale, these types are largely scorned by society.

I can’t help but think that going back nearly a century , when inhabitants of Germany Russia and Italy for example were giving a critique of their leaders , they may have hated them for being evil dictators , but at least they could legit also think ‘hmmm we are getting lots of nice new farms / roads / factories / trains run on time’ type competence. Trump and musk now don’t actualy seem capable of anything lest of all be civil to one another, literally seen toddlers in a sandpit behave better.

Senile, orange, incontinent narcissistic psychopath falls out with drugged up, failed plastic surgery, demonic, narcissistic psychopath! Who would have thunk it would end like this? This is a lose:lose scenario - Trump loses the backing of the Tech Bros who see what has happened to their richest Tech Bro and take a big step back whilst Musk loses money, contracts and possibly businesses as share prices dive and the vultures move in for the pickings. Ultimately the US loses out in terms of its reputation, its leadership of the Free World and its economy. In the chaos the malevolent neo-nazi racist religious zealots who authored Project 2025 will make hay and continue to shift wealth to the wealthy - the main losers will be the poor and middle class in the US with rising inflation, rising unemployment, reductions in healthcare, education and welfare. Impact on world economy ..... who knows?

As Clinton put it the other day - the Courts must hold out until at least to the mid term elections, if not then the US will be lost completely! 2026 seems a long way away though, who the feck knows what's going to happen by then?

PS Tin foil hats are still available!

[Yeeb]

To quote Rebecca Shaw of the Guardian - "I knew one day I’d have to watch powerful men burn the world down – I just didn’t expect them to be such losers".

There are men like Trump and Musk everywhere, but we don't hear about their vainglory, childishness and desperate need for approval because they weren't born wealthy enough to constantly fail upwards. When they're not rich and able to propagandise at a mass scale, these types are largely scorned by society.

I can’t help but think that going back nearly a century , when inhabitants of Germany Russia and Italy for example were giving a critique of their leaders , they may have hated them for being evil dictators , but at least they could legit also think ‘hmmm we are getting lots of nice new farms / roads / factories / trains run on time’ type competence. Trump and musk now don’t actualy seem capable of anything lest of all be civil to one another, literally seen toddlers in a sandpit behave better.

Senile, orange, incontinent narcissistic psychopath falls out with drugged up, failed plastic surgery, demonic, narcissistic psychopath! Who would have thunk it would end like this? This is a lose:lose scenario - Trump loses the backing of the Tech Bros who see what has happened to their richest Tech Bro and take a big step back whilst Musk loses money, contracts and possibly businesses as share prices dive and the vultures move in for the pickings. Ultimately the US loses out in terms of its reputation, its leadership of the Free World and its economy. In the chaos the malevolent neo-nazi racist religious zealots who authored Project 2025 will make hay and continue to shift wealth to the wealthy - the main losers will be the poor and middle class in the US with rising inflation, rising unemployment, reductions in healthcare, education and welfare. Impact on world economy ..... who knows?

As Clinton put it the other day - the Courts must hold out until at least to the mid term elections, if not then the US will be lost completely! 2026 seems a long way away though, who the feck knows what's going to happen by then?

PS Tin foil hats are still available!

It’s basically a Bond movie with TWO super baddies , with Vlad, IDF and Hamas as henchmen

[Guy Smiley]

Sound bite from AOC questioned on the street about it…

“Oh, the girls are fighting”

[Slick]

To quote Rebecca Shaw of the Guardian - "I knew one day I’d have to watch powerful men burn the world down – I just didn’t expect them to be such losers".

There are men like Trump and Musk everywhere, but we don't hear about their vainglory, childishness and desperate need for approval because they weren't born wealthy enough to constantly fail upwards. When they're not rich and able to propagandise at a mass scale, these types are largely scorned by society.

I can’t help but think that going back nearly a century , when inhabitants of Germany Russia and Italy for example were giving a critique of their leaders , they may have hated them for being evil dictators , but at least they could legit also think ‘hmmm we are getting lots of nice new farms / roads / factories / trains run on time’ type competence. Trump and musk now don’t actualy seem capable of anything lest of all be civil to one another, literally seen toddlers in a sandpit behave better.

Senile, orange, incontinent narcissistic psychopath falls out with drugged up, failed plastic surgery, demonic, narcissistic psychopath! Who would have thunk it would end like this? This is a lose:lose scenario - Trump loses the backing of the Tech Bros who see what has happened to their richest Tech Bro and take a big step back whilst Musk loses money, contracts and possibly businesses as share prices dive and the vultures move in for the pickings. Ultimately the US loses out in terms of its reputation, its leadership of the Free World and its economy. In the chaos the malevolent neo-nazi racist religious zealots who authored Project 2025 will make hay and continue to shift wealth to the wealthy - the main losers will be the poor and middle class in the US with rising inflation, rising unemployment, reductions in healthcare, education and welfare. Impact on world economy ..... who knows?

As Clinton put it the other day - the Courts must hold out until at least to the mid term elections, if not then the US will be lost completely! 2026 seems a long way away though, who the feck knows what's going to happen by then?

PS Tin foil hats are still available!

This was all part of the project 2025 plan?

[dpedin]

I can’t help but think that going back nearly a century , when inhabitants of Germany Russia and Italy for example were giving a critique of their leaders , they may have hated them for being evil dictators , but at least they could legit also think ‘hmmm we are getting lots of nice new farms / roads / factories / trains run on time’ type competence. Trump and musk now don’t actualy seem capable of anything lest of all be civil to one another, literally seen toddlers in a sandpit behave better.

Senile, orange, incontinent narcissistic psychopath falls out with drugged up, failed plastic surgery, demonic, narcissistic psychopath! Who would have thunk it would end like this? This is a lose:lose scenario - Trump loses the backing of the Tech Bros who see what has happened to their richest Tech Bro and take a big step back whilst Musk loses money, contracts and possibly businesses as share prices dive and the vultures move in for the pickings. Ultimately the US loses out in terms of its reputation, its leadership of the Free World and its economy. In the chaos the malevolent neo-nazi racist religious zealots who authored Project 2025 will make hay and continue to shift wealth to the wealthy - the main losers will be the poor and middle class in the US with rising inflation, rising unemployment, reductions in healthcare, education and welfare. Impact on world economy ..... who knows?

As Clinton put it the other day - the Courts must hold out until at least to the mid term elections, if not then the US will be lost completely! 2026 seems a long way away though, who the feck knows what's going to happen by then?

PS Tin foil hats are still available!

This was all part of the project 2025 plan?

Specifically no but more generally yes! Flood the zone, create chaos and mayhem, keep Trump in the news headlines creating distraction after distraction whilst they continue in the background to put in place their people and plans in pursuit of Project 2025. Trump is just a front guy who is easily manipulated and happy to be in the spotlight as long as he is given lots of money, nice shiny things to play with - the White House, new jets, big red hats - and allowed to play golf 3 or 4 times a week. The scary clever guys behind him meanwhile continue to implement their plans and shove new bills and Presidential Executive Orders etc in front of him to sign, none of which he ever reads and if he did wouldn't understand! Musk got what he wanted - lots of Gov and personal data stripped out of US Gov systems which he can use for a whole range of dodgy uses to pursue his ambitions for X.

[sockwithaticket]

Lost in the chaos is the appointment of a 22 year old just out of college as the lead of a DHS department. His only qualification seems to be a summer internship at the Heritage Foundation (the think tank behind Project 2025...).

In amidst the continuing egregious arrest and detention of people who are currently going through the legal process for residency, are already legal residents or even born citizens, there's been a rise in active protests during 'ICE' raids. Not that anyone can confirm these people actually work for any branch of government. They're covering their faces and operating in plain clothes. Even their bulletproof vests have no identifiers that you commonly see on other law enforcement like ATF, FBI, Police etc. It's setting a dangerous precedent where people are expected to assume unidentifiable masked men are conducting lawful business. It's ripe for abuse, not least any group of men who fancy abducting women.

[Niegs]

Lost in the chaos is the appointment of a 22 year old just out of college as the lead of a DHS department. His only qualification seems to be a summer internship at the Heritage Foundation (the think tank behind Project 2025...).

In amidst the continuing egregious arrest and detention of people who are currently going through the legal process for residency, are already legal residents or even born citizens, there's been a rise in active protests during 'ICE' raids. Not that anyone can confirm these people actually work for any branch of government. They're covering their faces and operating in plain clothes. Even their bulletproof vests have no identifiers that you commonly see on other law enforcement like ATF, FBI, Police etc. It's setting a dangerous precedent where people are expected to assume unidentifiable masked men are conducting lawful business. It's ripe for abuse, not least any group of men who fancy abducting women.

And I've seen a couple of videos where the names on each were all different. These have been the most scary, because with how the US is so tooled up, it could easily be cosplaying nutjobs / militia types doing it it for all bystanders know.

There's a clip online of a big reaction to what looks to be an over-the-top ICE raid in Minneapolis. Lots in the comments talking about how to make devices to flatten tires.

Coach Tim not even informed!? https://minnesotareformer.com/briefs/go ... s-chaotic/

[Niegs]

WTF is this bollocks?

[Hal Jordan]

This is really like watching South Africa v Ireland, you don’t care who wins, as long as one of them loses

The problem is, one side wins and then you never hear the end of it.

I never said it was fool proof

If it was the match couldn't take place.

[Slick]

The problem is, one side wins and then you never hear the end of it.

I never said it was fool proof

If it was the match couldn't take place.

Bravo

[Hal Jordan]

Something to bear in mind about all the Epstein chat is that the subtext isn't that trump is a rapey nonce (which is seemingly fine) it's that he's 'controlled by the jews.' Which is something that seems to exercise a wide swathe of the unhinged american far right.

[Uncle fester]

So Kilmar Ábrego García is either back in the US or on the way.

And

He's going to face human trafficking charges.

[Flockwitt]

FFS. The Proud Boys are now suing for $100 million for the way they have been miss-treated. What bets that Pam reaches a nice out of court settlement.

[Gumboot]

So Kilmar Ábrego García is either back in the US or on the way.

And

He's going to face human trafficking charges.

They had to cook up more bs to keep the base frothing at his misfortune for a while longer.

[Enzedder]

Further proof that if you lie with dogs, you get fleas.

[sockwithaticket]

FFS. The Proud Boys are now suing for $100 million for the way they have been miss-treated. What bets that Pam reaches a nice out of court settlement.

The Trump admin paid out millions to Ashli Babbit's family.

Some Proud Boys will be counting their Benjamins very soon I reckon.

[Flockwitt]

And in the vein of you wouldn't believe it was scripted in Dumb and Dumber, there are now 13 Republican Congressmen who have written a letter to the Senate asking that the wording to remove the clean energy credits in the BBB be stripped out.

This stuff is good, gets us away from Chinese dependency, provides job and builds the infrastructure that we've already got a critical shortfall in, we didn't really read this properly when we voted for it...

[Uncle fester]

And in the vein of you wouldn't believe it was scripted in Dumb and Dumber, there are now 13 Republican Congressmen who have written a letter to the Senate asking that the wording to remove the clean energy credits in the BBB be stripped out.

This stuff is good, gets us away from Chinese dependency, provides job and builds the infrastructure that we've already got a critical shortfall in, we didn't really read this properly when we voted for it...

Complaints re the amount of time that was allowed to review some of the recent bills?

[Flockwitt]

And in the vein of you wouldn't believe it was scripted in Dumb and Dumber, there are now 13 Republican Congressmen who have written a letter to the Senate asking that the wording to remove the clean energy credits in the BBB be stripped out.

This stuff is good, gets us away from Chinese dependency, provides job and builds the infrastructure that we've already got a critical shortfall in, we didn't really read this properly when we voted for it...

Complaints re the amount of time that was allowed to review some of the recent bills?

They all knew exactly what they were doing ramming it through in the wee hours of the night. And not just on that issue. Bunch of gutless toadies afraid of big bad MAGA ending their political careers and wanting to pass the buck to the Senate.

[Guy Smiley]

FFS. The Proud Boys are now suing for $100 million for the way they have been miss-treated. What bets that Pam reaches a nice out of court settlement.

The Trump admin paid out millions to Ashli Babbit's family.

Some Proud Boys will be counting their Benjamins very soon I reckon.

What’s the backstory here? I can’t keep up with all of the crazy coming out of the US these days.

[Torquemada 1420]

Not that it matters really... but DAC wouldn't bother commenting on NZ rugby games. It's not him.

Defo not DAC.

Muttonbird!!

Of course.

[sockwithaticket]

Lost in the chaos is the appointment of a 22 year old just out of college as the lead of a DHS department. His only qualification seems to be a summer internship at the Heritage Foundation (the think tank behind Project 2025...).

In amidst the continuing egregious arrest and detention of people who are currently going through the legal process for residency, are already legal residents or even born citizens, there's been a rise in active protests during 'ICE' raids. Not that anyone can confirm these people actually work for any branch of government. They're covering their faces and operating in plain clothes. Even their bulletproof vests have no identifiers that you commonly see on other law enforcement like ATF, FBI, Police etc. It's setting a dangerous precedent where people are expected to assume unidentifiable masked men are conducting lawful business. It's ripe for abuse, not least any group of men who fancy abducting women.

And I've seen a couple of videos where the names on each were all different. These have been the most scary, because with how the US is so tooled up, it could easily be cosplaying nutjobs / militia types doing it it for all bystanders know.

There's a clip online of a big reaction to what looks to be an over-the-top ICE raid in Minneapolis. Lots in the comments talking about how to make devices to flatten tires.

Coach Tim not even informed!? https://minnesotareformer.com/briefs/go ... s-chaotic/

I gather that it's fairly easy to buy patches on the internet that say 'Police', 'FBI' or whatever, so it could well be nutjobs. I've also seen some discussion on reddit that pardoning the Proud Boys was a precursor to deputising them and using deputising them into being essentially less obvious brown shirts. Especially as the existing ICE numbers are insufficient for the deportation targets the Trump admin want to hit and there won't be time to fully train the requisite number of new ICE agents (assuming they could even get sufficient applicants).

Meanwhile the head of California's biggest union, SEIU, has just been snatched up by ICE and all 750,000 members are threatening to strike. And the people in general are protesting the raids in person sufficiently that LAPD are busting out the riot gear.


This seems like it's only going to keep escalating across the US.

[Uncle fester]

Jesus, hadn't thought of that. Would explain why they are in homemade outfits and have no identifying tags.

[Niegs]

Now this is a conspiracy theory I'd get behind. Moskowitz calling out $800 million for bonuses here makes me think "chase the money" ... maybe not bonuses, but actual salaries to 'mercenaries'?

[Rhubarb & Custard]

It's something like a dozen phone calls now in the last 2 days the Whitehouse have arranged for Trump to ring major reporters directly and let them know he's not worried what Musk has to say. And that's really what I imagine everyone wants from the head of the executive, really getting into the detail of the job