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Posted: **Fri Jan 21, 2022 2:57 pm**

LNR and Toulouse are up in Arms about it

They have a team though

Cardiff would qualify not having won a game

Posted: **Fri Jan 21, 2022 2:59 pm**

The sun god wrote: ↑Fri Jan 21, 2022 2:46 pm Cardiff/Toulouse game off with Cardiff getting the win.......!!! Makes it interesting for Wasps on Sunday.

This is strange as Toulouse had the 23 players require with negative test results.

Posted: **Fri Jan 21, 2022 3:04 pm**

laurent wrote: ↑Fri Jan 21, 2022 2:57 pm LNR and Toulouse are up in Arms about it

They have a team though

Cardiff would qualify not having won a game

So did Leinster....didn't matter a shit.

Posted: **Fri Jan 21, 2022 3:04 pm**

Marylandolorian wrote: ↑Fri Jan 21, 2022 2:59 pm
The sun god wrote: ↑Fri Jan 21, 2022 2:46 pm Cardiff/Toulouse game off with Cardiff getting the win.......!!! Makes it interesting for Wasps on Sunday.
This is strange as Toulouse had the 23 players require with negative test results.

Consistently idiotic with the Leinster decision.

Posted: **Fri Jan 21, 2022 3:07 pm**

fishfoodie wrote: ↑Fri Jan 21, 2022 3:04 pm
Marylandolorian wrote: ↑Fri Jan 21, 2022 2:59 pm
The sun god wrote: ↑Fri Jan 21, 2022 2:46 pm Cardiff/Toulouse game off with Cardiff getting the win.......!!! Makes it interesting for Wasps on Sunday.
This is strange as Toulouse had the 23 players require with negative test results.
Consistently idiotic with the Leinster decision.

Ir's what happens when you move sporting bodies to places were they don't play the sport.

Posted: **Fri Jan 21, 2022 3:10 pm**

ASMO wrote: ↑Fri Jan 21, 2022 2:53 pm
The sun god wrote: ↑Fri Jan 21, 2022 2:46 pm Cardiff/Toulouse game off with Cardiff getting the win.......!!! Makes it interesting for Wasps on Sunday.
Toulouse fail to qualify then?

Yes. Because whatever happens at Coventry, either Wasps or CO will overhaul them. No sympathy from me.

{EDIT} Didier Lacroix (Pres) is doing his nut. Apparently Toulouse could field a team but EPCR had allegedly already made up minds to cancel. Toulouse is going to sue.

This comp gets more farcical by each day.

Posted: **Fri Jan 21, 2022 3:29 pm**

sockwithaticket wrote: ↑Fri Jan 21, 2022 2:32 pm Wasps team to go tackle Munster

Returns from injury or illness for West, Millar-Mills, Stooke, Robson, Watson, Morris and Spink.

The unavailable list this week:
Biyi Alo, Alfie Barbeary, Malakai Fekitoa, Vaea Fifita, Dan Frost, Jimmy Gopperth, Ben Harris, Robin Hislop, Francois Hougaard, Zach Kibirige, Joe Launchbury, Matteo Minozzi, Will Simonds, Jeffery Toomaga-Allen, Jacob Umaga, Jack Willis, Tom Willis.

Bolded players were involved in the Toulouse win last week. Seems like a lot to lose and every time we get some guys coming back from injury, more fall over. Notable exception for Umaga starting his ban.

Probably going to get beat, very few teams rock up at Thomond and win in Europe.

I'm sure there's an element of having to risk not quite fit players, but what point do you start to worry that there's something fundamentally wrong with the S&C at Wasps?

Posted: **Fri Jan 21, 2022 3:36 pm**

Sh*t has hit the fan now.

The LNR has waded in in support of Toulouse, calling the cancellation unfounded and a scandal. Stating that Toulouse had followed all EPCR rules and therefore EPCR has violated its own regs.

This is a big deal. LNR is hinting it will support legal proceedings by Toulouse against EPCR. LNR is the governing body for the French clubs.

Posted: **Fri Jan 21, 2022 3:45 pm**

Farcical decision. Farcical tournament format. Farcical tournament.

We didn't appreciate what we had in the 00s/early 10s.

Posted: **Fri Jan 21, 2022 3:53 pm**

And UBB gets the 28-0 treatment

Just dump the thing

Posted: **Fri Jan 21, 2022 4:08 pm**

laurent wrote: ↑Fri Jan 21, 2022 3:53 pm And UBB gets the 28-0 treatment

Just dump the thing

Yup. It's not beyond the realms that the LNR threatens to pull the remaining Fre clubs and uses the gap to catch up T14 fixtures.

Posted: **Fri Jan 21, 2022 4:09 pm**

Jim Lahey wrote: ↑Fri Jan 21, 2022 3:45 pm Farcical decision. Farcical tournament format. Farcical tournament.

We didn't appreciate what we had in the 00s/early 10s.

Some of us did but the combo of money, TV and an inept organiser has made it as sh*te as Soup now.

Posted: **Fri Jan 21, 2022 4:17 pm**

Torquemada 1420 wrote: ↑Fri Jan 21, 2022 3:36 pm Sh*t has hit the fan now.

The LNR has waded in in support of Toulouse, calling the cancellation unfounded and a scandal. Stating that Toulouse had followed all EPCR rules and therefore EPCR has violated its own regs.

This is a big deal. LNR is hinting it will support legal proceedings by Toulouse against EPCR. LNR is the governing body for the French clubs.

From what I can see here, there is no difference between the ST situation and the absolute disgraceful decision made against Leinster in Dec.

Posted: **Fri Jan 21, 2022 4:19 pm**

Just seen a reference to Sam Underhill coming back from injury against Leinster on Saturday. The BBC article says he’s coming back after more than a month out. He was injured on 26 December against Gloucester…….
Effing Beeb is getting worse I swear!

Posted: **Fri Jan 21, 2022 4:19 pm**

Jim Lahey wrote: ↑Fri Jan 21, 2022 3:45 pm Farcical decision. Farcical tournament format. Farcical tournament.

We didn't appreciate what we had in the 00s/early 10s.

I would say that most supporters most certainly did appreciate what we had but when has that ever mattered !!

Posted: **Fri Jan 21, 2022 4:22 pm**

The sun god wrote: ↑Fri Jan 21, 2022 4:17 pm
Torquemada 1420 wrote: ↑Fri Jan 21, 2022 3:36 pm Sh*t has hit the fan now.

The LNR has waded in in support of Toulouse, calling the cancellation unfounded and a scandal. Stating that Toulouse had followed all EPCR rules and therefore EPCR has violated its own regs.

This is a big deal. LNR is hinting it will support legal proceedings by Toulouse against EPCR. LNR is the governing body for the French clubs.
From what I can see here, there is no difference between the ST situation and the absolute disgraceful decision made against Leinster in Dec.

A slight difference. Leinster was arguing alone. This could be raise the hackles of entirety of Fre club rugby. Europe has no monetary value without T14 clubs. EPCR knows it. LNR knows it.

Posted: **Fri Jan 21, 2022 4:22 pm**

The sun god wrote: ↑Fri Jan 21, 2022 4:19 pm I would say that most REAL supporters most certainly did appreciate what we had but when has that ever mattered !!

Posted: **Fri Jan 21, 2022 4:35 pm**

JM2K6 wrote: ↑Fri Jan 21, 2022 3:29 pm
sockwithaticket wrote: ↑Fri Jan 21, 2022 2:32 pm Wasps team to go tackle Munster

Returns from injury or illness for West, Millar-Mills, Stooke, Robson, Watson, Morris and Spink.

The unavailable list this week:
Biyi Alo, Alfie Barbeary, Malakai Fekitoa, Vaea Fifita, Dan Frost, Jimmy Gopperth, Ben Harris, Robin Hislop, Francois Hougaard, Zach Kibirige, Joe Launchbury, Matteo Minozzi, Will Simonds, Jeffery Toomaga-Allen, Jacob Umaga, Jack Willis, Tom Willis.

Bolded players were involved in the Toulouse win last week. Seems like a lot to lose and every time we get some guys coming back from injury, more fall over. Notable exception for Umaga starting his ban.

Probably going to get beat, very few teams rock up at Thomond and win in Europe.
I'm sure there's an element of having to risk not quite fit players, but what point do you start to worry that there's something fundamentally wrong with the S&C at Wasps?

Yeah, with the squad having been as barebones as it was at times there's almost certainly an element of that in play and those who've been consistently available this season have got a lot of rugby under their belts. Gopperth has probably played a lot more than they'd be expecting a 38 year old to. Will probably get an update midweek about the injuries, but the Cov Telegraph team coverage notes that Barbeary and Willis were in game head knocks, there's not much as can be done about that from an S&C perspective.

The sheer number of injuries overall definitely needs serious, review though.

Posted: **Fri Jan 21, 2022 4:36 pm**

duke wrote: ↑Fri Jan 21, 2022 4:19 pm Just seen a reference to Sam Underhill coming back from injury against Leinster on Saturday. The BBC article says he’s coming back after more than a month out. He was injured on 26 December against Gloucester…….
Effing Beeb is getting worse I swear!

Their rugby coverage hasn't been great for a while, it's breadth and depth read like a couple of interns drew the short straw to do it.

Posted: **Fri Jan 21, 2022 4:37 pm**

Torquemada 1420 wrote: ↑Fri Jan 21, 2022 3:36 pm Sh*t has hit the fan now.

The LNR has waded in in support of Toulouse, calling the cancellation unfounded and a scandal. Stating that Toulouse had followed all EPCR rules and therefore EPCR has violated its own regs.

This is a big deal. LNR is hinting it will support legal proceedings by Toulouse against EPCR. LNR is the governing body for the French clubs.

This is exactly what happened to Leinster. So EPCR are hoist on their own petard.

Posted: **Fri Jan 21, 2022 4:37 pm**

Torquemada 1420 wrote: ↑Fri Jan 21, 2022 4:22 pm
The sun god wrote: ↑Fri Jan 21, 2022 4:17 pm
Torquemada 1420 wrote: ↑Fri Jan 21, 2022 3:36 pm Sh*t has hit the fan now.

The LNR has waded in in support of Toulouse, calling the cancellation unfounded and a scandal. Stating that Toulouse had followed all EPCR rules and therefore EPCR has violated its own regs.

This is a big deal. LNR is hinting it will support legal proceedings by Toulouse against EPCR. LNR is the governing body for the French clubs.
From what I can see here, there is no difference between the ST situation and the absolute disgraceful decision made against Leinster in Dec.
A slight difference. Leinster was arguing alone. This could be raise the hackles of entirety of Fre club rugby. Europe has no monetary value without T14 clubs. EPCR knows it. LNR knows it.

This is very true.

Posted: **Fri Jan 21, 2022 4:39 pm**

Torquemada 1420 wrote: ↑Fri Jan 21, 2022 4:22 pm
The sun god wrote: ↑Fri Jan 21, 2022 4:17 pm
Torquemada 1420 wrote: ↑Fri Jan 21, 2022 3:36 pm Sh*t has hit the fan now.

The LNR has waded in in support of Toulouse, calling the cancellation unfounded and a scandal. Stating that Toulouse had followed all EPCR rules and therefore EPCR has violated its own regs.

This is a big deal. LNR is hinting it will support legal proceedings by Toulouse against EPCR. LNR is the governing body for the French clubs.
From what I can see here, there is no difference between the ST situation and the absolute disgraceful decision made against Leinster in Dec.
A slight difference. Leinster was arguing alone. This could be raise the hackles of entirety of Fre club rugby. Europe has no monetary value without T14 clubs. EPCR knows it. LNR knows it.

We'll take the revised 0-0 score and 2 pts. in support of the Toulouse position.

Posted: **Fri Jan 21, 2022 4:41 pm**

Camroc2 wrote: ↑Fri Jan 21, 2022 4:39 pm We'll take the revised 0-0 score and 2 pts. in support of the Toulouse position.

It would be hilarious if Leinster won the thing by being awarded a 28-0 win in the final.

Posted: **Fri Jan 21, 2022 4:56 pm**

Europe needs a total rethink. Make it elite again for starters. Just 12 teams in 4x seeded pools of 3. Pool stage; 2x home 2x away matches. Pool winners straight to semi-finals. 6 games maximum. 4 games minimum.

Qualification
England - top 4
France - top 4
URC - top 4

Play in single block after domestic league ends.

Posted: **Fri Jan 21, 2022 4:58 pm**

Kawazaki wrote: ↑Fri Jan 21, 2022 4:56 pm Europe needs a total rethink. Make it elite again for starters. Just 12 teams in 4x seeded pools of 3. Pool stage; 2x home 2x away matches. Pool winners straight to semi-finals. 6 games maximum. 4 games minimum.

Qualification
England - top 4
France - top 4
URC - top 4

Play in single block after domestic league ends.

Bollox.

Go back to the old 20 team format headed by a competent organisation based in Dublin.

Posted: **Fri Jan 21, 2022 5:04 pm**

I am 100% certain that an Irish side winning it five times in six years or whatever does not at all give a measure of misty-eyed wistfulness about the late 00s/early 2010s Heineken Cup...

Posted: **Fri Jan 21, 2022 5:15 pm**

Camroc2 wrote: ↑Fri Jan 21, 2022 4:58 pm
Kawazaki wrote: ↑Fri Jan 21, 2022 4:56 pm Europe needs a total rethink. Make it elite again for starters. Just 12 teams in 4x seeded pools of 3. Pool stage; 2x home 2x away matches. Pool winners straight to semi-finals. 6 games maximum. 4 games minimum.

Qualification
England - top 4
France - top 4
URC - top 4

Play in single block after domestic league ends.
Bollox.

Go back to the old 20 team format headed by a competent organisation based in Dublin.

It's just too many games. Needs to be elite again or just don't bother.

Posted: **Fri Jan 21, 2022 6:13 pm**

An other one won because of Covid, Leicester 28 / Bordeaux 0

Posted: **Fri Jan 21, 2022 6:27 pm**

Kawazaki wrote: ↑Fri Jan 21, 2022 5:15 pm
Camroc2 wrote: ↑Fri Jan 21, 2022 4:58 pm
Kawazaki wrote: ↑Fri Jan 21, 2022 4:56 pm Europe needs a total rethink. Make it elite again for starters. Just 12 teams in 4x seeded pools of 3. Pool stage; 2x home 2x away matches. Pool winners straight to semi-finals. 6 games maximum. 4 games minimum.

Qualification
England - top 4
France - top 4
URC - top 4

Play in single block after domestic league ends.
Bollox.

Go back to the old 20 team format headed by a competent organisation based in Dublin.

It's just too many games. Needs to be elite again or just don't bother.

This. It has to be short and high quality which go hand in hand. The best players simply can't do a work load that includes extended leagues, extended cup comps and internationals. If you want true quality the competitions have to be focused.

Posted: **Fri Jan 21, 2022 7:15 pm**

Should be a comfortable win for Quins tonight

Posted: **Fri Jan 21, 2022 7:39 pm**

sockwithaticket wrote: ↑Fri Jan 21, 2022 4:36 pm
duke wrote: ↑Fri Jan 21, 2022 4:19 pm Just seen a reference to Sam Underhill coming back from injury against Leinster on Saturday. The BBC article says he’s coming back after more than a month out. He was injured on 26 December against Gloucester…….
Effing Beeb is getting worse I swear!
Their rugby coverage hasn't been great for a while, it's breadth and depth read like a couple of interns drew the short straw to do it.

Today’s preview of Quims Castres has a pic of Tommy Allen, with the caption “Tommy Allen starts at fly-half for Saracens”...

Posted: **Fri Jan 21, 2022 7:46 pm**

NeilOJism wrote: ↑Fri Jan 21, 2022 7:39 pm
sockwithaticket wrote: ↑Fri Jan 21, 2022 4:36 pm
duke wrote: ↑Fri Jan 21, 2022 4:19 pm Just seen a reference to Sam Underhill coming back from injury against Leinster on Saturday. The BBC article says he’s coming back after more than a month out. He was injured on 26 December against Gloucester…….
Effing Beeb is getting worse I swear!
Their rugby coverage hasn't been great for a while, it's breadth and depth read like a couple of interns drew the short straw to do it.
Today’s preview of Quims Castres has a pic of Tommy Allen, with the caption “Tommy Allen starts at fly-half for Saracens”...

That is truly dire

Posted: **Fri Jan 21, 2022 8:01 pm**

Kockett's arm is still all fucked up.

Posted: **Fri Jan 21, 2022 8:11 pm**

Quins absolutely gash so far.

Posted: **Fri Jan 21, 2022 8:12 pm**

fishfoodie wrote: ↑Fri Jan 21, 2022 8:11 pm Quins absolutely gash so far.

Don't say I didn't warn!

Posted: **Fri Jan 21, 2022 8:12 pm**

What is going on?

Posted: **Fri Jan 21, 2022 8:19 pm**

Stop it, Dommers. That was a naughty little chip for a forward.

Posted: **Fri Jan 21, 2022 8:26 pm**

Looks like a try to me.

The best kind of shithouse try.

Posted: **Fri Jan 21, 2022 8:32 pm**

It's okay; Castres are reverting to type

Posted: **Fri Jan 21, 2022 8:33 pm**

Well spotted by the TMO

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