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Re: European Rugby Thread
Posted: Fri Jan 21, 2022 4:17 pm
by The sun god
Torquemada 1420 wrote: Fri Jan 21, 2022 3:36 pm
Sh*t has hit the fan now.
The LNR has waded in in support of Toulouse, calling the cancellation unfounded and a scandal. Stating that Toulouse had followed all EPCR rules and therefore EPCR has violated its own regs.
This is a big deal. LNR is hinting it will support legal proceedings by Toulouse against EPCR. LNR is the governing body for the French clubs.
From what I can see here, there is no difference between the ST situation and the absolute disgraceful decision made against Leinster in Dec.
Re: European Rugby Thread
Posted: Fri Jan 21, 2022 4:19 pm
by duke
Just seen a reference to Sam Underhill coming back from injury against Leinster on Saturday. The BBC article says he’s coming back after more than a month out. He was injured on 26 December against Gloucester…….
Effing Beeb is getting worse I swear!
Re: European Rugby Thread
Posted: Fri Jan 21, 2022 4:19 pm
by The sun god
Jim Lahey wrote: Fri Jan 21, 2022 3:45 pm
Farcical decision. Farcical tournament format. Farcical tournament.
We didn't appreciate what we had in the 00s/early 10s.
I would say that most supporters most certainly did appreciate what we had but when has that ever mattered !!
Re: European Rugby Thread
Posted: Fri Jan 21, 2022 4:22 pm
by Torquemada 1420
The sun god wrote: Fri Jan 21, 2022 4:17 pm
Torquemada 1420 wrote: Fri Jan 21, 2022 3:36 pm
Sh*t has hit the fan now.
The LNR has waded in in support of Toulouse, calling the cancellation unfounded and a scandal. Stating that Toulouse had followed all EPCR rules and therefore EPCR has violated its own regs.
This is a big deal. LNR is hinting it will support legal proceedings by Toulouse against EPCR. LNR is the governing body for the French clubs.
From what I can see here, there is no difference between the ST situation and the absolute disgraceful decision made against Leinster in Dec.
A slight difference. Leinster was arguing alone. This could be raise the hackles of entirety of Fre club rugby. Europe has no monetary value without T14 clubs. EPCR knows it. LNR knows it.
Re: European Rugby Thread
Posted: Fri Jan 21, 2022 4:22 pm
by Torquemada 1420
The sun god wrote: Fri Jan 21, 2022 4:19 pm
I would say that most REAL supporters most certainly did appreciate what we had but when has that ever mattered !!
Re: European Rugby Thread
Posted: Fri Jan 21, 2022 4:35 pm
by sockwithaticket
JM2K6 wrote: Fri Jan 21, 2022 3:29 pm
sockwithaticket wrote: Fri Jan 21, 2022 2:32 pm
Wasps team to go tackle Munster
Returns from injury or illness for West, Millar-Mills, Stooke, Robson, Watson, Morris and Spink.
The unavailable list this week:
Biyi Alo, Alfie Barbeary, Malakai Fekitoa, Vaea Fifita,
Dan Frost, Jimmy Gopperth, Ben Harris, Robin Hislop, Francois Hougaard, Zach Kibirige, Joe Launchbury, Matteo Minozzi, Will Simonds, Jeffery Toomaga-Allen,
Jacob Umaga, Jack Willis,
Tom Willis.
Bolded players were involved in the Toulouse win last week. Seems like a lot to lose and every time we get some guys coming back from injury, more fall over. Notable exception for Umaga starting his ban.
Probably going to get beat, very few teams rock up at Thomond and win in Europe.
I'm sure there's an element of having to risk not quite fit players, but what point do you start to worry that there's something fundamentally wrong with the S&C at Wasps?
Yeah, with the squad having been as barebones as it was at times there's almost certainly an element of that in play and those who've been consistently available this season have got a lot of rugby under their belts. Gopperth has probably played a lot more than they'd be expecting a 38 year old to. Will probably get an update midweek about the injuries, but the Cov Telegraph team coverage notes that Barbeary and Willis were in game head knocks, there's not much as can be done about that from an S&C perspective.
The sheer number of injuries overall definitely needs serious, review though.
Re: European Rugby Thread
Posted: Fri Jan 21, 2022 4:36 pm
by sockwithaticket
duke wrote: Fri Jan 21, 2022 4:19 pm
Just seen a reference to Sam Underhill coming back from injury against Leinster on Saturday. The BBC article says he’s coming back after
more than a month out. He was injured on 26 December against Gloucester…….
Effing Beeb is getting worse I swear!
Their rugby coverage hasn't been great for a while, it's breadth and depth read like a couple of interns drew the short straw to do it.
Re: European Rugby Thread
Posted: Fri Jan 21, 2022 4:37 pm
by Camroc2
Torquemada 1420 wrote: Fri Jan 21, 2022 3:36 pm
Sh*t has hit the fan now.
The LNR has waded in in support of Toulouse, calling the cancellation unfounded and a scandal. Stating that Toulouse had followed all EPCR rules and therefore EPCR has violated its own regs.
This is a big deal. LNR is hinting it will support legal proceedings by Toulouse against EPCR. LNR is the governing body for the French clubs.
This is exactly what happened to Leinster. So EPCR are hoist on their own petard.
Re: European Rugby Thread
Posted: Fri Jan 21, 2022 4:37 pm
by The sun god
Torquemada 1420 wrote: Fri Jan 21, 2022 4:22 pm
The sun god wrote: Fri Jan 21, 2022 4:17 pm
Torquemada 1420 wrote: Fri Jan 21, 2022 3:36 pm
Sh*t has hit the fan now.
The LNR has waded in in support of Toulouse, calling the cancellation unfounded and a scandal. Stating that Toulouse had followed all EPCR rules and therefore EPCR has violated its own regs.
This is a big deal. LNR is hinting it will support legal proceedings by Toulouse against EPCR. LNR is the governing body for the French clubs.
From what I can see here, there is no difference between the ST situation and the absolute disgraceful decision made against Leinster in Dec.
A slight difference.
Leinster was arguing alone. This could be raise the hackles of entirety of Fre club rugby. Europe has no monetary value without T14 clubs. EPCR knows it. LNR knows it.
This is very true.
Re: European Rugby Thread
Posted: Fri Jan 21, 2022 4:39 pm
by Camroc2
Torquemada 1420 wrote: Fri Jan 21, 2022 4:22 pm
The sun god wrote: Fri Jan 21, 2022 4:17 pm
Torquemada 1420 wrote: Fri Jan 21, 2022 3:36 pm
Sh*t has hit the fan now.
The LNR has waded in in support of Toulouse, calling the cancellation unfounded and a scandal. Stating that Toulouse had followed all EPCR rules and therefore EPCR has violated its own regs.
This is a big deal. LNR is hinting it will support legal proceedings by Toulouse against EPCR. LNR is the governing body for the French clubs.
From what I can see here, there is no difference between the ST situation and the absolute disgraceful decision made against Leinster in Dec.
A slight difference. Leinster was arguing alone. This could be raise the hackles of entirety of Fre club rugby. Europe has no monetary value without T14 clubs. EPCR knows it. LNR knows it.
We'll take the revised 0-0 score and 2 pts. in support of the Toulouse position.

Re: European Rugby Thread
Posted: Fri Jan 21, 2022 4:41 pm
by Torquemada 1420
Camroc2 wrote: Fri Jan 21, 2022 4:39 pm
We'll take the revised 0-0 score and 2 pts. in support of the Toulouse position.
It would be hilarious if Leinster won the thing by being awarded a 28-0 win in the final.
Re: European Rugby Thread
Posted: Fri Jan 21, 2022 4:56 pm
by Kawazaki
Europe needs a total rethink. Make it elite again for starters. Just 12 teams in 4x seeded pools of 3. Pool stage; 2x home 2x away matches. Pool winners straight to semi-finals. 6 games maximum. 4 games minimum.
Qualification
England - top 4
France - top 4
URC - top 4
Play in single block after domestic league ends.
Re: European Rugby Thread
Posted: Fri Jan 21, 2022 4:58 pm
by Camroc2
Kawazaki wrote: Fri Jan 21, 2022 4:56 pm
Europe needs a total rethink. Make it elite again for starters. Just 12 teams in 4x seeded pools of 3. Pool stage; 2x home 2x away matches. Pool winners straight to semi-finals. 6 games maximum. 4 games minimum.
Qualification
England - top 4
France - top 4
URC - top 4
Play in single block after domestic league ends.
Bollox.
Go back to the old 20 team format headed by a competent organisation based in Dublin.
Re: European Rugby Thread
Posted: Fri Jan 21, 2022 5:04 pm
by JM2K6
I am 100% certain that an Irish side winning it five times in six years or whatever does not at all give a measure of misty-eyed wistfulness about the late 00s/early 2010s Heineken Cup...
Re: European Rugby Thread
Posted: Fri Jan 21, 2022 5:15 pm
by Kawazaki
Camroc2 wrote: Fri Jan 21, 2022 4:58 pm
Kawazaki wrote: Fri Jan 21, 2022 4:56 pm
Europe needs a total rethink. Make it elite again for starters. Just 12 teams in 4x seeded pools of 3. Pool stage; 2x home 2x away matches. Pool winners straight to semi-finals. 6 games maximum. 4 games minimum.
Qualification
England - top 4
France - top 4
URC - top 4
Play in single block after domestic league ends.
Bollox.
Go back to the old 20 team format headed by a competent organisation based in Dublin.
It's just too many games. Needs to be elite again or just don't bother.
Re: European Rugby Thread
Posted: Fri Jan 21, 2022 6:27 pm
by Flockwitt
Kawazaki wrote: Fri Jan 21, 2022 5:15 pm
Camroc2 wrote: Fri Jan 21, 2022 4:58 pm
Kawazaki wrote: Fri Jan 21, 2022 4:56 pm
Europe needs a total rethink. Make it elite again for starters. Just 12 teams in 4x seeded pools of 3. Pool stage; 2x home 2x away matches. Pool winners straight to semi-finals. 6 games maximum. 4 games minimum.
Qualification
England - top 4
France - top 4
URC - top 4
Play in single block after domestic league ends.
Bollox.
Go back to the old 20 team format headed by a competent organisation based in Dublin.
It's just too many games. Needs to be elite again or just don't bother.
This. It has to be short and high quality which go hand in hand. The best players simply can't do a work load that includes extended leagues, extended cup comps and internationals. If you want true quality the competitions have to be focused.
Re: European Rugby Thread
Posted: Fri Jan 21, 2022 7:15 pm
by iarmhí
Should be a comfortable win for Quins tonight
Re: European Rugby Thread
Posted: Fri Jan 21, 2022 7:39 pm
by NeilOJism
sockwithaticket wrote: Fri Jan 21, 2022 4:36 pm
duke wrote: Fri Jan 21, 2022 4:19 pm
Just seen a reference to Sam Underhill coming back from injury against Leinster on Saturday. The BBC article says he’s coming back after
more than a month out. He was injured on 26 December against Gloucester…….
Effing Beeb is getting worse I swear!
Their rugby coverage hasn't been great for a while, it's breadth and depth read like a couple of interns drew the short straw to do it.
Today’s preview of Quims Castres has a pic of Tommy Allen, with the caption “Tommy Allen starts at fly-half for Saracens”...
Re: European Rugby Thread
Posted: Fri Jan 21, 2022 7:46 pm
by duke
NeilOJism wrote: Fri Jan 21, 2022 7:39 pm
sockwithaticket wrote: Fri Jan 21, 2022 4:36 pm
duke wrote: Fri Jan 21, 2022 4:19 pm
Just seen a reference to Sam Underhill coming back from injury against Leinster on Saturday. The BBC article says he’s coming back after
more than a month out. He was injured on 26 December against Gloucester…….
Effing Beeb is getting worse I swear!
Their rugby coverage hasn't been great for a while, it's breadth and depth read like a couple of interns drew the short straw to do it.
Today’s preview of Quims Castres has a pic of Tommy Allen, with the caption “Tommy Allen starts at fly-half for Saracens”...
That is truly dire
Re: European Rugby Thread
Posted: Fri Jan 21, 2022 8:01 pm
by sockwithaticket
Kockett's arm is still all fucked up.
Re: European Rugby Thread
Posted: Fri Jan 21, 2022 8:11 pm
by fishfoodie
Quins absolutely gash so far.
Re: European Rugby Thread
Posted: Fri Jan 21, 2022 8:12 pm
by Torquemada 1420
fishfoodie wrote: Fri Jan 21, 2022 8:11 pm
Quins absolutely gash so far.
Don't say I didn't warn!
Re: European Rugby Thread
Posted: Fri Jan 21, 2022 8:12 pm
by iarmhí
What is going on?
Re: European Rugby Thread
Posted: Fri Jan 21, 2022 8:19 pm
by sockwithaticket
Stop it, Dommers. That was a naughty little chip for a forward.
Re: European Rugby Thread
Posted: Fri Jan 21, 2022 8:26 pm
by sockwithaticket
Looks like a try to me.
The best kind of shithouse try.
Re: European Rugby Thread
Posted: Fri Jan 21, 2022 8:32 pm
by fishfoodie
It's okay; Castres are reverting to type
Re: European Rugby Thread
Posted: Fri Jan 21, 2022 8:33 pm
by fishfoodie
Well spotted by the TMO
Re: European Rugby Thread
Posted: Fri Jan 21, 2022 8:34 pm
by Torquemada 1420
fishfoodie wrote: Fri Jan 21, 2022 8:33 pm
Well spotted by the TMO
Well that's bollox.
Re: European Rugby Thread
Posted: Fri Jan 21, 2022 8:40 pm
by fishfoodie
Dirty cunt
Re: European Rugby Thread
Posted: Fri Jan 21, 2022 8:41 pm
by Torquemada 1420
Marler being a tw*t. Red.
{EDIT} Got of light.
Re: European Rugby Thread
Posted: Fri Jan 21, 2022 8:43 pm
by iarmhí
That was a bit dirty from Marler
Re: European Rugby Thread
Posted: Fri Jan 21, 2022 8:45 pm
by fishfoodie
iarmhí wrote: Fri Jan 21, 2022 8:43 pm
That was a bit dirty from Marler
Needless & stupid ... classic Marler
Re: European Rugby Thread
Posted: Fri Jan 21, 2022 8:53 pm
by Tichtheid
fishfoodie wrote: Fri Jan 21, 2022 8:45 pm
iarmhí wrote: Fri Jan 21, 2022 8:43 pm
That was a bit dirty from Marler
Needless & stupid ... classic Marler
When carded he just said, "Fair"
He knew all about it.
On a Quins related note ex Stoop player Glen Young has scored two for Edinburgh, running one in from half way. Edinburgh lead Brive 33-3 at HT
Re: European Rugby Thread
Posted: Fri Jan 21, 2022 9:07 pm
by C69
The new slimmer Dombrant is slowly becoming the new seagulling Tom Croft.
Re: European Rugby Thread
Posted: Fri Jan 21, 2022 9:10 pm
by fishfoodie
C69 wrote: Fri Jan 21, 2022 9:07 pm
The new slimmer Dombrant is slowly becoming the new seagulling Tom Croft.
It's all part of his preparation to play as a center, for England

Re: European Rugby Thread
Posted: Fri Jan 21, 2022 9:23 pm
by Tichtheid
Huw Jones is looking a bit more like himself tonight
Re: European Rugby Thread
Posted: Fri Jan 21, 2022 9:24 pm
by sturginho
NeilOJism wrote: Fri Jan 21, 2022 7:39 pm
sockwithaticket wrote: Fri Jan 21, 2022 4:36 pm
duke wrote: Fri Jan 21, 2022 4:19 pm
Just seen a reference to Sam Underhill coming back from injury against Leinster on Saturday. The BBC article says he’s coming back after
more than a month out. He was injured on 26 December against Gloucester…….
Effing Beeb is getting worse I swear!
Their rugby coverage hasn't been great for a while, it's breadth and depth read like a couple of interns drew the short straw to do it.
Today’s preview of Quims Castres has a pic of Tommy Allen, with the caption “Tommy Allen starts at fly-half for Saracens”...
But at least they spelled his name right...
Re: European Rugby Thread
Posted: Fri Jan 21, 2022 9:26 pm
by Tichtheid
Howler!
Brilliant up to the point he dropped it.
Re: European Rugby Thread
Posted: Fri Jan 21, 2022 9:33 pm
by sockwithaticket
"Save us, Marcus!"
Re: European Rugby Thread
Posted: Fri Jan 21, 2022 9:55 pm
by Tichtheid
Fuckin Drama!