More strikes on the bridge crossing the Dniepr last night, amount of damage awaiting confirmation with conflicting reports
Re: What's going on in Ukraine?
Posted: Wed Jul 27, 2022 7:34 am
by laurent
tabascoboy wrote: ↑Wed Jul 27, 2022 7:31 am
More strikes on the bridge crossing the Dniepr last night, amount of damage awaiting confirmation with conflicting reports
Apparently the russian collaborators have confirmed it's fucked
Re: What's going on in Ukraine?
Posted: Wed Jul 27, 2022 7:41 am
by tabascoboy
Most reliable reports say the structure of the supports and spans etc is intact but the roadway is too damaged for safe use. Elsewhere Russia have been building pontoon bridges but this crossing seems to wide for a temporary spanning. There is a new "photo" doing the rounds but most consider it a fake photoshopped job.
This video looks factual
Re: What's going on in Ukraine?
Posted: Wed Jul 27, 2022 9:21 am
by Hellraiser
Re: What's going on in Ukraine?
Posted: Wed Jul 27, 2022 10:06 am
by tabascoboy
Seems that the Wagner Group are more effective than Russian Regular forces, even so several weeks to gain 3 000m
Re: What's going on in Ukraine?
Posted: Wed Jul 27, 2022 10:29 am
by Hellraiser
Re: What's going on in Ukraine?
Posted: Wed Jul 27, 2022 12:50 pm
by GogLais
tabascoboy wrote: ↑Wed Jul 27, 2022 10:06 am
Seems that the Wagner Group are more effective than Russian Regular forces, even so several weeks to gain 3 000m
Shades of WWI - the distance doesn’t matter, it’s a question of how much men and material each side lost during that time.
Re: What's going on in Ukraine?
Posted: Wed Jul 27, 2022 1:28 pm
by Hellraiser
Germany has just approved the sale of 100 PzH 2000s to Ukraine.
Re: What's going on in Ukraine?
Posted: Wed Jul 27, 2022 1:41 pm
by GogLais
Hellraiser wrote: ↑Wed Jul 27, 2022 1:28 pm
Germany has just approved the sale of 100 PzH 2000s to Ukraine.
According to Wiki one of them has fired a shell 67 km. Under special circumstances no doubt but even so that’s a hell of a long way. Might be able to hit Manchester from here.
Hellraiser wrote: ↑Wed Jul 27, 2022 1:28 pm
Germany has just approved the sale of 100 PzH 2000s to Ukraine.
According to Wiki one of them has fired a shell 67 km. Under special circumstances no doubt but even so that’s a hell of a long way. Might be able to hit Manchester from here.
Hellraiser wrote: ↑Wed Jul 27, 2022 1:28 pm
Germany has just approved the sale of 100 PzH 2000s to Ukraine.
According to Wiki one of them has fired a shell 67 km. Under special circumstances no doubt but even so that’s a hell of a long way. Might be able to hit Manchester from here.
Rocket assisted projectiles.
Ah right, ta.
Re: What's going on in Ukraine?
Posted: Wed Jul 27, 2022 4:00 pm
by Calculon
Jordan Peterson is a massive Putin and Russia fan. The war is all the fault of the West and Ukraine should give Russia what it wants.
always thought he was a bit of a wrong'un
Re: What's going on in Ukraine?
Posted: Wed Jul 27, 2022 4:32 pm
by Flockwitt
Hellraiser wrote: ↑Wed Jul 27, 2022 1:28 pm
Germany has just approved the sale of 100 PzH 2000s to Ukraine.
From what I can read I'm not sure this isn't a news rehash. I saw a program in March on German supply and it was stated then Ukraine had the PzH2000s on order (along with BMPs). The issue at the time was Germany was not prepared to reprioritize delivery, or ship first and backfill. The current article here says these are already in production which leads me to suspect it's perhaps a politician working the media.
tabascoboy wrote: ↑Wed Jul 27, 2022 10:06 am
Seems that the Wagner Group are more effective than Russian Regular forces, even so several weeks to gain 3 000m
From my understanding for whatever reason the Ukrainians attempted to hold the power plant there as long as possible and put in one of their best units into that pocket. Why it took so long to take despite being squeezed from two sides.
A really well written article about the clusterfuck at the start of the war.
Re: What's going on in Ukraine?
Posted: Wed Jul 27, 2022 6:05 pm
by Uncle fester
Calculon wrote: ↑Wed Jul 27, 2022 4:00 pm
Jordan Peterson is a massive Putin and Russia fan. The war is all the fault of the West and Ukraine should give Russia what it wants.
always thought he was a bit of a wrong'un
I didn't need any more reasons to have disgust for the guy but you gave us the whopper there.
Re: What's going on in Ukraine?
Posted: Thu Jul 28, 2022 11:30 am
by Hellraiser
Re: What's going on in Ukraine?
Posted: Thu Jul 28, 2022 12:52 pm
by Brazil
Not the usual focus of this thread, but it looks very much like the grain corridors will be opened soon, which is good news.
It is being claimed - and has to be borne in mind that all sources so far are from Ukraine - that "Russian public opinion is probably preparing for the imminent abandonment of Kherson."
In the Russian segment of social networks, messages began to appear massively that Kherson is not particularly important for Russia. There are first signs of a propaganda operation to prepare public opinion in the Russian Federation for leaving the Ukrainian city. Ukrainian journalist Ivan Yakovina drew attention to this on Facebook . Messages about the need to leave Kherson appeared against the backdrop of the start of the counteroffensive of the Armed Forces of Ukraine. The Ukrainians have already destroyed the key bridges of the Kherson region, cutting off the retreat of the occupying army of the Russian Federation. More and more experts say that the Russians will not be able to keep the city. " Let's not forget that Kherson was never an end in itself. The city was just one of the capture points for the whole of Ukraine, at least the coast. But those goals of the war failed. Kherson itself is now a suitcase without a handle. It is a pity to leave it, but it is impossible to defend it for a long time ", - write on the web.
Brazil wrote: ↑Thu Jul 28, 2022 12:52 pm
Not the usual focus of this thread, but it looks very much like the grain corridors will be opened soon, which is good news.
The thread covers all. Still skeptical that Russia will keep their end of the deal.