NPR

Hellraiser wrote: Mon Jul 25, 2022 7:26 pm

That genuine?

Uncle fester wrote: Mon Jul 25, 2022 9:25 pm

Hellraiser wrote: Mon Jul 25, 2022 7:26 pm

That genuine?

It appears so.

Hellraiser wrote: Tue Jul 26, 2022 12:54 pm

Wonder if they share a coffee brake afterwards.

More strikes on the bridge crossing the Dniepr last night, amount of damage awaiting confirmation with conflicting reports

tabascoboy wrote: Wed Jul 27, 2022 7:31 am More strikes on the bridge crossing the Dniepr last night, amount of damage awaiting confirmation with conflicting reports

Apparently the russian collaborators have confirmed it's fucked

Most reliable reports say the structure of the supports and spans etc is intact but the roadway is too damaged for safe use. Elsewhere Russia have been building pontoon bridges but this crossing seems to wide for a temporary spanning. There is a new "photo" doing the rounds but most consider it a fake photoshopped job.

This video looks factual

Seems that the Wagner Group are more effective than Russian Regular forces, even so several weeks to gain 3 000m

tabascoboy wrote: Wed Jul 27, 2022 10:06 am Seems that the Wagner Group are more effective than Russian Regular forces, even so several weeks to gain 3 000m

Shades of WWI - the distance doesn’t matter, it’s a question of how much men and material each side lost during that time.

Germany has just approved the sale of 100 PzH 2000s to Ukraine.

Hellraiser wrote: Wed Jul 27, 2022 1:28 pm Germany has just approved the sale of 100 PzH 2000s to Ukraine.

According to Wiki one of them has fired a shell 67 km. Under special circumstances no doubt but even so that’s a hell of a long way. Might be able to hit Manchester from here.

GogLais wrote: Wed Jul 27, 2022 1:41 pm

Hellraiser wrote: Wed Jul 27, 2022 1:28 pm Germany has just approved the sale of 100 PzH 2000s to Ukraine.

According to Wiki one of them has fired a shell 67 km. Under special circumstances no doubt but even so that’s a hell of a long way. Might be able to hit Manchester from here.

Rocket assisted projectiles.

Hellraiser wrote: Wed Jul 27, 2022 1:57 pm

GogLais wrote: Wed Jul 27, 2022 1:41 pm

Hellraiser wrote: Wed Jul 27, 2022 1:28 pm Germany has just approved the sale of 100 PzH 2000s to Ukraine.

According to Wiki one of them has fired a shell 67 km. Under special circumstances no doubt but even so that’s a hell of a long way. Might be able to hit Manchester from here.

Rocket assisted projectiles.

Ah right, ta.

Jordan Peterson is a massive Putin and Russia fan. The war is all the fault of the West and Ukraine should give Russia what it wants.



always thought he was a bit of a wrong'un

Hellraiser wrote: Wed Jul 27, 2022 1:28 pm Germany has just approved the sale of 100 PzH 2000s to Ukraine.

From what I can read I'm not sure this isn't a news rehash. I saw a program in March on German supply and it was stated then Ukraine had the PzH2000s on order (along with BMPs). The issue at the time was Germany was not prepared to reprioritize delivery, or ship first and backfill. The current article here says these are already in production which leads me to suspect it's perhaps a politician working the media.

https://defence-blog.com/berlin-approve ... o-ukraine/

tabascoboy wrote: Wed Jul 27, 2022 10:06 am Seems that the Wagner Group are more effective than Russian Regular forces, even so several weeks to gain 3 000m

From my understanding for whatever reason the Ukrainians attempted to hold the power plant there as long as possible and put in one of their best units into that pocket. Why it took so long to take despite being squeezed from two sides.

https://thedebrief.org/know-no-mercy-th ... hemselves/

A really well written article about the clusterfuck at the start of the war.

Calculon wrote: Wed Jul 27, 2022 4:00 pm Jordan Peterson is a massive Putin and Russia fan. The war is all the fault of the West and Ukraine should give Russia what it wants.



always thought he was a bit of a wrong'un

I didn't need any more reasons to have disgust for the guy but you gave us the whopper there.

Not the usual focus of this thread, but it looks very much like the grain corridors will be opened soon, which is good news.

Hellraiser wrote: Thu Jul 28, 2022 1:40 pm

And it's not just Ukraine,

It is being claimed - and has to be borne in mind that all sources so far are from Ukraine - that "Russian public opinion is probably preparing for the imminent abandonment of Kherson."

In the Russian segment of social networks, messages began to appear massively that Kherson is not particularly important for Russia. There are first signs of a propaganda operation to prepare public opinion in the Russian Federation for leaving the Ukrainian city. Ukrainian journalist Ivan Yakovina drew attention to this on Facebook . Messages about the need to leave Kherson appeared against the backdrop of the start of the counteroffensive of the Armed Forces of Ukraine. The Ukrainians have already destroyed the key bridges of the Kherson region, cutting off the retreat of the occupying army of the Russian Federation. More and more experts say that the Russians will not be able to keep the city. " Let's not forget that Kherson was never an end in itself. The city was just one of the capture points for the whole of Ukraine, at least the coast. But those goals of the war failed. Kherson itself is now a suitcase without a handle. It is a pity to leave it, but it is impossible to defend it for a long time ", - write on the web.

https://www.dialog.ua/war/256070_1658938674

Brazil wrote: Thu Jul 28, 2022 12:52 pm Not the usual focus of this thread, but it looks very much like the grain corridors will be opened soon, which is good news.

The thread covers all. Still skeptical that Russia will keep their end of the deal.

Brigadier General Serhii Melnyk, commander of the Kharkiv garrison, visiting the front line.

There is a video doing the round of russian torturing a Ukrainian POW.

Don't post and don't watch if you come across it.

Russia failed in its strategic objectives months back, it failed to take Kyiv, failed to kill the Ukraine government and put in its place Russian stooges, failed taking any major cities (unless you count Mariupol which is now destroyed anyway), underestimated the reaction from US/UK/EU/NATO and world opinion generally (UN votes). The list goes on.

Russia then pivoted and withdrew and pretended their goals were something different entirely. It was all about land corridors, Donbas, and Mariupol. They were hoping for smaller tactical wins to paint over their massive strategic loss and humiliation.

Kherson isn't going to be in Russian hands after this is all over, that's the front to watch through August. Ukraine has been weakening Russia there for months (repeated Ukrainian artillery strikes on the airport which Russia kept restocking only to be hit again, and Ukrainian counter offensives retaking ground). Kherson remains the only real Russia success in the war, a city barely even in the 20 largest in Ukraine, mostly important because it's on the way to Odesa. Ukraine lost it without much fighting at the start because it was the only place Ukrainian forces got caught in the open (the only Ukrainian columns I saw that were destroyed were between Crimea and Kherson at the start). Russia will struggle to keep resupplying Kherson now that Ukraine has plentiful accurate long range missiles, and are using them to destroy Russian rear area logistics hubs forcing them to be relocated outside missile range closer towards Crimea. This recreates the conditions of the early war when Russia attempted a US invasion of Iraq style mad rush using truck convoys to resupply, which failed when Ukraine destroyed thousands of undefended Russian supply trucks using irregulars/special forces/TB2 drones. Ukraine is also destroying bridges inside Kherson itself, making logistics harder for Russian trucks closer to the front too.

Russian strategic defeat and humiliation is locked in, now its attempt at face saving tactical victory is being threatened too. If Ukraine retakes/holds Kherson and Zaporizhia, cutting the land corridor starts looking viable.