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Yeah, it doesn't seem to be an option for him. Normally I think it's not an issue because he's beating defenders so frequently and he also has a really big impact when he comes looking for the ball, but yesterday he didn't have a great game with the knock ons and looking suspect defensively.Slick wrote: ↑Sun Dec 11, 2022 7:01 pm Bit of Sunday night controversy, but Duhan is beginning to do my head in a bit. Just never, ever, passes or even looks for a pass. I accept that all things being equal that’s usually not too much of a problem but his head seems a bit elsewhere at the moment, defence isn’t great and vulnerable under the high ball.
Not calling for him to be dropped or anything ridiculous like that, but I’d like a bit more out of him
I think you'll especially enjoy Crosbie's performance. Best back row forward on the pitch.Tichtheid wrote: ↑Sun Dec 11, 2022 5:27 pm
I have a couple of evenings this week where I'm on my Tod, I'll catch up with it then, ta.
i was only able to watch the first 20mins before family affairs intervened. I have now watched the rest. It is both worth watching and interesting. Some utter schoolboy errors, and I do mean errors that I'd have given grief to schoolboy teams I coached for, along with some very good stuff.
Could add McInally getting carded for gobbing off at the ref (having already been marched back 10 in the 1st for gobbing off, leading to a try)weegie01 wrote: ↑Mon Dec 12, 2022 9:01 ami was only able to watch the first 20mins before family affairs intervened. I have now watched the rest. It is both worth watching and interesting. Some utter schoolboy errors, and I do mean errors that I'd have given grief to schoolboy teams I coached for, along with some very good stuff.
That is what is so frustrating. Edinburgh were outsmarted in the scrum as well as out muscled according to my ex tighthead son, fair enough. That is a work on but it was clever play by Saracens not stupidity by us. Rambo had off day with his throwing, it happens. A bit surprising, but it happens. What I can't get my head round is the schoolboy stuff like letting the kick off bounce, not passing to players in space to score etc. These should be things ingrained in players yet we do things like this over and over.
It does my head in.
Thought Richie didn't do Edinburgh any favours the way he was talking to the ref either. Gilchrist should have taken over as chief communicatorSlick wrote: ↑Mon Dec 12, 2022 10:52 amCould add McInally getting carded for gobbing off at the ref (having already been marched back 10 in the 1st for gobbing off, leading to a try)weegie01 wrote: ↑Mon Dec 12, 2022 9:01 ami was only able to watch the first 20mins before family affairs intervened. I have now watched the rest. It is both worth watching and interesting. Some utter schoolboy errors, and I do mean errors that I'd have given grief to schoolboy teams I coached for, along with some very good stuff.
That is what is so frustrating. Edinburgh were outsmarted in the scrum as well as out muscled according to my ex tighthead son, fair enough. That is a work on but it was clever play by Saracens not stupidity by us. Rambo had off day with his throwing, it happens. A bit surprising, but it happens. What I can't get my head round is the schoolboy stuff like letting the kick off bounce, not passing to players in space to score etc. These should be things ingrained in players yet we do things like this over and over.
It does my head in.
But Mike Blair says he is proud of the boys.
I thought Rambo was a maul/ruck infringement?Slick wrote: ↑Mon Dec 12, 2022 10:52 amCould add McInally getting carded for gobbing off at the ref (having already been marched back 10 in the 1st for gobbing off, leading to a try)weegie01 wrote: ↑Mon Dec 12, 2022 9:01 ami was only able to watch the first 20mins before family affairs intervened. I have now watched the rest. It is both worth watching and interesting. Some utter schoolboy errors, and I do mean errors that I'd have given grief to schoolboy teams I coached for, along with some very good stuff.
That is what is so frustrating. Edinburgh were outsmarted in the scrum as well as out muscled according to my ex tighthead son, fair enough. That is a work on but it was clever play by Saracens not stupidity by us. Rambo had off day with his throwing, it happens. A bit surprising, but it happens. What I can't get my head round is the schoolboy stuff like letting the kick off bounce, not passing to players in space to score etc. These should be things ingrained in players yet we do things like this over and over.
It does my head in.
But Mike Blair says he is proud of the boys.
Seen 2 separate papers saying it was backchatBig D wrote: ↑Mon Dec 12, 2022 11:22 amI thought Rambo was a maul/ruck infringement?Slick wrote: ↑Mon Dec 12, 2022 10:52 amCould add McInally getting carded for gobbing off at the ref (having already been marched back 10 in the 1st for gobbing off, leading to a try)weegie01 wrote: ↑Mon Dec 12, 2022 9:01 am
i was only able to watch the first 20mins before family affairs intervened. I have now watched the rest. It is both worth watching and interesting. Some utter schoolboy errors, and I do mean errors that I'd have given grief to schoolboy teams I coached for, along with some very good stuff.
That is what is so frustrating. Edinburgh were outsmarted in the scrum as well as out muscled according to my ex tighthead son, fair enough. That is a work on but it was clever play by Saracens not stupidity by us. Rambo had off day with his throwing, it happens. A bit surprising, but it happens. What I can't get my head round is the schoolboy stuff like letting the kick off bounce, not passing to players in space to score etc. These should be things ingrained in players yet we do things like this over and over.
It does my head in.
But Mike Blair says he is proud of the boys.
I thought Ritchie was poor and part of my concern with him as captain is how he handles refs and vice versa as he lives on the edge.
You could really coach around it too - a lot of what Kinghorn and Dean do well it's fixing the defence and pulling the ball back to create gaps. With Duhan defences are already scared of him running so if he has the skill to pull it off it would be a handy play.robmatic wrote: ↑Mon Dec 12, 2022 6:53 amYeah, it doesn't seem to be an option for him. Normally I think it's not an issue because he's beating defenders so frequently and he also has a really big impact when he comes looking for the ball, but yesterday he didn't have a great game with the knock ons and looking suspect defensively.Slick wrote: ↑Sun Dec 11, 2022 7:01 pm Bit of Sunday night controversy, but Duhan is beginning to do my head in a bit. Just never, ever, passes or even looks for a pass. I accept that all things being equal that’s usually not too much of a problem but his head seems a bit elsewhere at the moment, defence isn’t great and vulnerable under the high ball.
Not calling for him to be dropped or anything ridiculous like that, but I’d like a bit more out of him
Just had a look at a couple more papers and they agree with you. How odd, and a bit shitty of a journo to say that if he wasn’t sureTichtheid wrote: ↑Mon Dec 12, 2022 2:06 pm
I've just played it back, Rambo wasn't binned for backchat. Ben Kay should shut his hole when referees are talking to players, there were two or three instances in the game where the what the ref has to say was far more interesting but Kay talked all over it. However you can hear the ref call something about pulling when Saracens were knocking on our line when he gave them a penalty advantage. After they scored he again says something to McInally about pulling and makes a pulling like gesture - it's not really an official ref signal, but there we go - and whatever it was, it was the reason Rambo was given the yellow card.
Onw of the good things about Amazon's coverage of the AIs is the option to listen without commentary, just with the crowd noise and referee.Tichtheid wrote: ↑Mon Dec 12, 2022 2:06 pm
I've just played it back, Rambo wasn't binned for backchat. Ben Kay should shut his hole when referees are talking to players, there were two or three instances in the game where the what the ref has to say was far more interesting but Kay talked all over it. However you can hear the ref call something about pulling when Saracens were knocking on our line when he gave them a penalty advantage. After they scored he again says something to McInally about pulling and makes a pulling like gesture - it's not really an official ref signal, but there we go - and whatever it was, it was the reason Rambo was given the yellow card.
Ritchie might be a good leader, but he is very poor at handling referees. He just seems to antagonise them. I really think he's a poor choice as captain.
Absolutely. It's great.Biffer wrote: ↑Mon Dec 12, 2022 3:02 pmOnw of the good things about Amazon's coverage of the AIs is the option to listen without commentary, just with the crowd noise and referee.Tichtheid wrote: ↑Mon Dec 12, 2022 2:06 pm
I've just played it back, Rambo wasn't binned for backchat. Ben Kay should shut his hole when referees are talking to players, there were two or three instances in the game where the what the ref has to say was far more interesting but Kay talked all over it. However you can hear the ref call something about pulling when Saracens were knocking on our line when he gave them a penalty advantage. After they scored he again says something to McInally about pulling and makes a pulling like gesture - it's not really an official ref signal, but there we go - and whatever it was, it was the reason Rambo was given the yellow card.
Don't tell Torq.westport wrote: ↑Mon Dec 12, 2022 5:35 pm It was reported by the Mail Online last month that talks were at an ‘advanced stage’ and that it is ‘very likely’ that Russell will join Bath as their marquee player — meaning his salary is not included within the cap.
However, according to The Rugby Paper, the Scotland and Lions star has rejected a proposed move to the West Country next season.
Finn Russell is now set to extend his stay with Racing with a huge new contract worth almost £1m per season reportedly on the table according to reports in France.
There had been speculation that Racing are lining up All Blacks playmaker Beauden Barrett, but that deal now appears to be dead.
No other European clubs can compete with T14 clubs when it comes to salaries.westport wrote: ↑Mon Dec 12, 2022 5:35 pm It was reported by the Mail Online last month that talks were at an ‘advanced stage’ and that it is ‘very likely’ that Russell will join Bath as their marquee player — meaning his salary is not included within the cap.
However, according to The Rugby Paper, the Scotland and Lions star has rejected a proposed move to the West Country next season.
Finn Russell is now set to extend his stay with Racing with a huge new contract worth almost £1m per season reportedly on the table according to reports in France.
There had been speculation that Racing are lining up All Blacks playmaker Beauden Barrett, but that deal now appears to be dead.
SaintK wrote: ↑Mon Dec 12, 2022 5:55 pmNo other European clubs can compete with T14 clubs when it comes to salaries.westport wrote: ↑Mon Dec 12, 2022 5:35 pm It was reported by the Mail Online last month that talks were at an ‘advanced stage’ and that it is ‘very likely’ that Russell will join Bath as their marquee player — meaning his salary is not included within the cap.
However, according to The Rugby Paper, the Scotland and Lions star has rejected a proposed move to the West Country next season.
Finn Russell is now set to extend his stay with Racing with a huge new contract worth almost £1m per season reportedly on the table according to reports in France.
There had been speculation that Racing are lining up All Blacks playmaker Beauden Barrett, but that deal now appears to be dead.
Reckon the Bath connection was Russell's agent upping the ante for his 10% worth...or more!
You bad personweegie01 wrote: ↑Mon Dec 12, 2022 5:51 pmDon't tell Torq.westport wrote: ↑Mon Dec 12, 2022 5:35 pm It was reported by the Mail Online last month that talks were at an ‘advanced stage’ and that it is ‘very likely’ that Russell will join Bath as their marquee player — meaning his salary is not included within the cap.
However, according to The Rugby Paper, the Scotland and Lions star has rejected a proposed move to the West Country next season.
Finn Russell is now set to extend his stay with Racing with a huge new contract worth almost £1m per season reportedly on the table according to reports in France.
There had been speculation that Racing are lining up All Blacks playmaker Beauden Barrett, but that deal now appears to be dead.
Well played by Finn's agent.westport wrote: ↑Mon Dec 12, 2022 5:35 pm It was reported by the Mail Online last month that talks were at an ‘advanced stage’ and that it is ‘very likely’ that Russell will join Bath as their marquee player — meaning his salary is not included within the cap.
However, according to The Rugby Paper, the Scotland and Lions star has rejected a proposed move to the West Country next season.
Finn Russell is now set to extend his stay with Racing with a huge new contract worth almost £1m per season reportedly on the table according to reports in France.
There had been speculation that Racing are lining up All Blacks playmaker Beauden Barrett, but that deal now appears to be dead.
The issue here is that Scotland in particular have lacked a proper leader on the pitch, and that is what Ritchie is good at. That quality is innate. Ref management is something that can be learned. One hopes.Simian wrote: ↑Mon Dec 12, 2022 3:24 pmRitchie might be a good leader, but he is very poor at handling referees. He just seems to antagonise them. I really think he's a poor choice as captain.
The depth at prop is just what happens when you outsource front row development. The SRU has no clue how to develop them as the club coaches refuse to risk young props getting papped in the scrum in a real game and so they never get the gametime they need to become good players. There's no way to square the circle and have competitive pro teams and develop front rowers. This is going to be an ongoing problem. We've been reliant on South Africans and genetic freaks like Fagerson for a while. Sutherland and Bhatti sticking around owing to real force of will is very impressive.Biffer wrote: ↑Tue Dec 13, 2022 1:56 pm https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-union/63954759
Well, shit. We need to McCallum into a team, and soon.
I lurk, and a few people have said they have had problems on the Saracens thread. One can only get on using his phone, another had intermittent problems, but working fine again..
Grahamslaw was a really good member of the u20s team that finished third (I think) in the six nations pre covid too. It's the development of props in Scotland I'm afraid. Good age grades, don't get an opportunity at pro level (it's better to have 24 year old Courtney destroyed, apparently) and leave for the championship where some do well (some don't I check periodically as I thought Nicol would be a good player but never seems to play for Jersey).weegie01 wrote: ↑Thu Dec 15, 2022 11:25 am Sam Grahamslaw left Edinburgh to go to Jersey Reds, for whom he has been ripping up trees. He is now being looked at by Prem clubs (he is qualified for Scotland, England and France). A young, dynamic, 125kg prop is exactly the kind of player is exactly the kind of player we need to keep here and develop, yet he has gone south and prospered. There are always players who prosper at one club and do not elsewhere. But there seems to be a worrying trend of players leaving Edinburgh and excelling elsewhere.
Edit.
I have just had a look at the Jersey Reds site. They have 6 props listed, three are SQ (SG, Adam Nicol and Steve Longwell). Plus Hamish Bain in the 2nd row and Lewis Wynne in the back row.
naah. It'll be great to see some live rugby though. Ah the roar of the deep heat the smell of the crowd, can't believe how excited I am.