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inactionman wrote: Tue Dec 20, 2022 11:40 am
westport wrote: Tue Dec 20, 2022 10:41 am Finn has signed for Bath
Given Bath's track records with international-calibre signings, expect him to tear a hamstring, pop a knee or lose a leg within the first week.

Apologies in advance.

Are they going to put in a 4G pitch when they do all the work on the stadium?
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Tichtheid wrote: Tue Dec 20, 2022 11:46 am
inactionman wrote: Tue Dec 20, 2022 11:40 am
westport wrote: Tue Dec 20, 2022 10:41 am Finn has signed for Bath
Given Bath's track records with international-calibre signings, expect him to tear a hamstring, pop a knee or lose a leg within the first week.

Apologies in advance.

Are they going to put in a 4G pitch when they do all the work on the stadium?
I've lost track of where they've got to with the redevelopment - mainly as there're been a whole summer's worth of false dawns already and it's dragged on for a decade or more - but sorting the pitch definitely needs to be part of the plan. It's the flood plain for the Avon and it's clay soil, even if Bath isn't particularly wet the pitch just turns into a bog.

In saying that, they may struggle to do anything revolutionary if they have to return it to open public use over summer. This has always been the stumbling block for every proposal so you'd think they'd have some strategy to get round it.
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westport wrote: Tue Dec 20, 2022 10:41 am Finn has signed for Bath
Good for him getting big pay deal at end of career and with a new baby to support. However I hope Bath sign a new SH or two otherwise he is in for a very frustrating time.
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OVER 1500 UKRAINIAN REFUGEES TO ATTEND 1872 CUP DECIDER[

Edinburgh Rugby will welcome over 1500 Ukrainian refugees to this month’s 150th anniversary 1872 Cup decider at BT Murrayfield (Friday 30 December, kick-off 7.35pm) as part of working partnership with the City of Edinburgh Council and Edinburgh Voluntary Organisations Council.

The tickets for the unmissable derby decider were offered to Ukrainians refugees based in both Edinburgh and Glasgow, with displaced families currently living on cruise ships MS Victoria and MS Ambition, docked in Leith and on the Clyde.

The ticket donation to world rugby’s oldest intercity derby follows on from May’s outreach which saw Edinburgh invite a number of Afghan refugees to BT Murrayfield as Edinburgh claimed the 1872 Cup against Glasgow Warriors, winning 28-11 in front of nearly 25,000 spectators.
I know we are trying to discourage immigration, but surely this is what the Americans call 'cruel and unusual punishment'?

https://edinburghrugby.org/the-clubhous ... S-Qx-4OjoM
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dpedin wrote: Tue Dec 20, 2022 1:46 pm
westport wrote: Tue Dec 20, 2022 10:41 am Finn has signed for Bath
Good for him getting big pay deal at end of career and with a new baby to support. However I hope Bath sign a new SH or two otherwise he is in for a very frustrating time.
I'm not sure Bath will do colossally better than Ben Spencer, who has actually been a rare highlight in a pretty mediocre few years.

It will be interesting to see how Russell can get the centres into the game, Redpath and Lawrence have looked good but JJ has been off the boil for a while.
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weegie01 wrote: Tue Dec 20, 2022 1:54 pm
OVER 1500 UKRAINIAN REFUGEES TO ATTEND 1872 CUP DECIDER[

Edinburgh Rugby will welcome over 1500 Ukrainian refugees to this month’s 150th anniversary 1872 Cup decider at BT Murrayfield (Friday 30 December, kick-off 7.35pm) as part of working partnership with the City of Edinburgh Council and Edinburgh Voluntary Organisations Council.

The tickets for the unmissable derby decider were offered to Ukrainians refugees based in both Edinburgh and Glasgow, with displaced families currently living on cruise ships MS Victoria and MS Ambition, docked in Leith and on the Clyde.

The ticket donation to world rugby’s oldest intercity derby follows on from May’s outreach which saw Edinburgh invite a number of Afghan refugees to BT Murrayfield as Edinburgh claimed the 1872 Cup against Glasgow Warriors, winning 28-11 in front of nearly 25,000 spectators.
I know we are trying to discourage immigration, but surely this is what the Americans call 'cruel and unusual punishment'?

https://edinburghrugby.org/the-clubhous ... S-Qx-4OjoM
Murrayfield on a December evening will give them an idea of how cold Kiev is without electricity.
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Hamish Watson is a major doubt for the 2023 Six Nations as he continues to be stood down from rugby action due to a series of head knocks.

The Scotland flanker has been down to Birmingham this week to see a specialist about the concussion he sustained against New Zealand

“He has seen the specialist down in Birmingham and we are waiting to see the scan results,” said Mike Blair, the Edinburgh coach.

“Everything else has come through as fine but because he has had a number [of head knocks] in a short time he has to have an enforced break.

“We’re not 100 per cent sure when he will be back but he is feeling really good and he’s doing a lot of running and weights.”
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westport wrote: Wed Dec 21, 2022 9:20 am Hamish Watson is a major doubt for the 2023 Six Nations as he continues to be stood down from rugby action due to a series of head knocks.

The Scotland flanker has been down to Birmingham this week to see a specialist about the concussion he sustained against New Zealand

“He has seen the specialist down in Birmingham and we are waiting to see the scan results,” said Mike Blair, the Edinburgh coach.

“Everything else has come through as fine but because he has had a number [of head knocks] in a short time he has to have an enforced break.

“We’re not 100 per cent sure when he will be back but he is feeling really good and he’s doing a lot of running and weights.”
Hopefully he gets healthy and all is OK with his head. I'm not sure he should be ahead of Crosbie for the 6N though.
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Edinburgh Rugby team to face Glasgow Warriors at Scotstoun Stadium in the BKT United Rugby Championship
Friday 23 December (kick-off 7.35pm) – live on Viaplay.

15. Emiliano Boffelli (24)

14. Wes Goosen (6)
13. James Lang (18)
12. Chris Dean (130)
11. Duhan van der Merwe (70)

10. Charlie Savala (20)
9. Ben Vellacott (28)

1. Pierre Schoeman (91)
2. Tom Cruse (2)
3. WP Nel (180)
4. Glen Young (17)
5. Grant Gilchrist (182) CO-CAPTAIN
6. Jamie Ritchie (91) CO-CAPTAIN
7. Connor Boyle (25)
8. Viliame Mata (104)

Replacements

16. Patrick Harrison (8)
17. Boan Venter (36)
18. Angus Williams (17)
19. Marshall Sykes (31)
20. Ben Muncaster (24)
21. Henry Pyrgos (77)
22. Jaco van der Walt (92)
23. Cammy Scott (1)

Unavailable: Mark Bennett, Dave Cherry, Matt Currie, Darcy Graham, Nick Haining, Damien Hoyland, Cammy Hutchison, Henry Immelman, Blair Kinghorn, Adam McBurney, Stuart McInally, Hamish Watson.
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Thats not a bad side considering injuries although it would have been mire reassuring if the likes if Boyle and Scott had a bit more game time. Hard for them to get in when their position is occupied by the incumbents though.
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Glasgow Warriors Team for Round 1 of 1872

15 Josh McKay (20)

14 Sebastian Cancelliere (17)
13 Sione Tuipulotu (27)
12 Stafford McDowall (44)
11 Kyle Steyn (Captain) (55)

10 Tom Jordan (9)
9 George Horne (89)

1 Jamie Bhatti (76)
2 Fraser Brown (130)
3 Murphy Walker (11)
4 Sintu Manjezi (10)
5 Richie Gray (91)
6 Matt Fagerson (84)
7 Sione Vailanu (5)
8 Jack Dempsey (27)

Substitutes

16 George Turner (84)
17 Nathan McBeth (10)
18 Simon Berghan (18)
19 JP du Preez (9)
20 Lewis Bean (24)
21 Cameron Neild (1)
22 Ali Price (117)
23 Domingo Miotti (12)

No Huw Jones , and bit surprised by no Ollie Smith - I expect we will see them at Murrayfield on the 30th
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Jock42 wrote: Thu Dec 22, 2022 1:38 pm Thats not a bad side considering injuries although it would have been mire reassuring if the likes if Boyle and Scott had a bit more game time. Hard for them to get in when their position is occupied by the incumbents though.
It's good Boyle is getting a game considering Crosbie has been the best player in Scotland the last few weeks. Is he getting Scotland rest periods now Watson and Darge are missing the six nations.
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Just seen Tichtheid's "Top Gun" reference on the Glasgow Forum
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I like neeps wrote: Thu Dec 22, 2022 2:23 pm
Jock42 wrote: Thu Dec 22, 2022 1:38 pm Thats not a bad side considering injuries although it would have been mire reassuring if the likes if Boyle and Scott had a bit more game time. Hard for them to get in when their position is occupied by the incumbents though.
It's good Boyle is getting a game considering Crosbie has been the best player in Scotland the last few weeks. Is he getting Scotland rest periods now Watson and Darge are missing the six nations.
Thats an interesting question, I don't know how it works. That's also good for Boyle of he is/will be.
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Emiliano Boffelli won a Copa de something this week in Argentina, it’s an award for the outstanding performance from an Argentinian in a particular sport over the course of the year, there are about 50 sports represented and Boff deserved his rugby one, for sure.

I could hazard a guess at who won the round ball gong, and he probably overshadowed his peers from the other sports in doing so.
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Jock42 wrote: Thu Dec 22, 2022 5:00 pm
I like neeps wrote: Thu Dec 22, 2022 2:23 pm
Jock42 wrote: Thu Dec 22, 2022 1:38 pm Thats not a bad side considering injuries although it would have been mire reassuring if the likes if Boyle and Scott had a bit more game time. Hard for them to get in when their position is occupied by the incumbents though.
It's good Boyle is getting a game considering Crosbie has been the best player in Scotland the last few weeks. Is he getting Scotland rest periods now Watson and Darge are missing the six nations.
Thats an interesting question, I don't know how it works. That's also good for Boyle of he is/will be.


Good point re Crosbie and rest periods. He was in the AI squad so he may be subject to the protocol anyway, but with the other injuries and Crosbie's form, it's about the only thing that makes sense regarding his omission from tomorrow's game.
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This was posted on the Embra rugby fans FB page

It's the story behind the portrait of Doddie that hangs in the National Portrait Gallery in Edinburgh.

It made me laugh and shed a wee tear at times too.

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Here we go then!

Excited to see some Harry Paterson, how's the nerves son.

Edinburgh for me, awful weather and they have the better pack.

"One of the biggest games in world rugby" :lol: okay Rory.
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Ah that's a shame, I was hoping Deano would dominate.
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Grant Gilchrist playing the lifter at the lineout for the millionth time. If I made the same mistake a million times at work I'd get fired. He should be dropped until he learns.
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Good win for Glasgow in the end. Need to do more in attack, I'm not sold on Jordan at 10 or McDowell at 12. Physicality all day - you can tell they've got a saffa in charge. Great defence too. I had thought Murchie was a bit jobs for the boys but obviously not.
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Boo.

I was out with the family as they all came back from various places for Christmas, so I recorded it. I'll catch up during the week if I get a chance.

The injuries are becoming very worrying.
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I like neeps wrote: Fri Dec 23, 2022 9:25 pm Good win for Glasgow in the end. Need to do more in attack, I'm not sold on Jordan at 10 or McDowell at 12. Physicality all day - you can tell they've got a saffa in charge. Great defence too. I had thought Murchie was a bit jobs for the boys but obviously not.
Was the game as bad as the papers are saying?

How did Murphy go?
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Slick wrote: Sat Dec 24, 2022 6:14 am
I like neeps wrote: Fri Dec 23, 2022 9:25 pm Good win for Glasgow in the end. Need to do more in attack, I'm not sold on Jordan at 10 or McDowell at 12. Physicality all day - you can tell they've got a saffa in charge. Great defence too. I had thought Murchie was a bit jobs for the boys but obviously not.
Was the game as bad as the papers are saying?

How did Murphy go?
It wasn't good quality but if was okay to watch.

Murphy ended up sun loosehead and didn't get on the pitch.
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I like neeps wrote: Sat Dec 24, 2022 7:37 am
Slick wrote: Sat Dec 24, 2022 6:14 am
I like neeps wrote: Fri Dec 23, 2022 9:25 pm Good win for Glasgow in the end. Need to do more in attack, I'm not sold on Jordan at 10 or McDowell at 12. Physicality all day - you can tell they've got a saffa in charge. Great defence too. I had thought Murchie was a bit jobs for the boys but obviously not.
Was the game as bad as the papers are saying?

How did Murphy go?
It wasn't good quality but if was okay to watch.

Murphy ended up sun loosehead and didn't get on the pitch.
Cheers

And, FFS
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Considering the players both sides were missing, I thought it was an evenly matched, hard fought derby match between players who know each other very well. Enjoyable, nothing spectacular and Glasgow defence won it.
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Tichtheid wrote: Thu Dec 22, 2022 6:44 pm
Jock42 wrote: Thu Dec 22, 2022 5:00 pm
I like neeps wrote: Thu Dec 22, 2022 2:23 pm
It's good Boyle is getting a game considering Crosbie has been the best player in Scotland the last few weeks. Is he getting Scotland rest periods now Watson and Darge are missing the six nations.
Thats an interesting question, I don't know how it works. That's also good for Boyle of he is/will be.
Good point re Crosbie and rest periods. He was in the AI squad so he may be subject to the protocol anyway, but with the other injuries and Crosbie's form, it's about the only thing that makes sense regarding his omission from tomorrow's game.
Crosby is carrying a niggle so has been given time off to recover.

Kinghorn's back is not responding as hoped and he is a concern for the next leg.

And on the Glasgow side, Tom Gordon's calf is not responding to treatment either.

Watson and Darge are out for the 6N so unless some of the other injuries heal, we are suddenly looking light at 7, though the likes of Ritchie can switch over effectively.

And I was told someone else is expected to be out till half way through the 6N. As I am old I am struggling to remember, but I am sure it was Graham.
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weegie01 wrote: Sat Dec 24, 2022 9:05 am
Tichtheid wrote: Thu Dec 22, 2022 6:44 pm
Jock42 wrote: Thu Dec 22, 2022 5:00 pm

Thats an interesting question, I don't know how it works. That's also good for Boyle of he is/will be.
Good point re Crosbie and rest periods. He was in the AI squad so he may be subject to the protocol anyway, but with the other injuries and Crosbie's form, it's about the only thing that makes sense regarding his omission from tomorrow's game.
Crosby is carrying a niggle so has been given time off to recover.

Kinghorn's back is not responding as hoped and he is a concern for the next leg.

And on the Glasgow side, Tom Gordon's calf is not responding to treatment either.

Watson and Darge are out for the 6N so unless some of the other injuries heal, we are suddenly looking light at 7, though the likes of Ritchie can switch over effectively.

And I was told someone else is expected to be out till half way through the 6N. As I am old I am struggling to remember, but I am sure it was Graham.
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Bloody hell. Dipped my toe into the English rugby thread and quickly got called a Cnut for having the temerity to voice an opinion contrary to JMK. Better stick to my own kind. 😂
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You know I can read this thread yeah
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JM2K6 wrote: Tue Dec 27, 2022 8:54 pm You know I can read this thread yeah
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Cameron Redpath has signed a contract extension with Bath.
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westport wrote: Wed Dec 28, 2022 12:25 pm Cameron Redpath has signed a contract extension with Bath.
It will be interesting how he goes alongside Russell at 10 next season. I suppose it all depends how much good ball the get from the Bath pack?
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dpedin wrote: Thu Dec 29, 2022 10:05 am
westport wrote: Wed Dec 28, 2022 12:25 pm Cameron Redpath has signed a contract extension with Bath.
It will be interesting how he goes alongside Russell at 10 next season. I suppose it all depends how much good ball the get from the Bath pack?
Don't hold your breath!
Though with Spencer at 9 it should be reasonably quick ball
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dpedin wrote: Thu Dec 29, 2022 10:05 am
westport wrote: Wed Dec 28, 2022 12:25 pm Cameron Redpath has signed a contract extension with Bath.
It will be interesting how he goes alongside Russell at 10 next season. I suppose it all depends how much good ball the get from the Bath pack?
It will be really interesting, could be great for Scotland or a disaster. We shall see!
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Edinburgh Rugby team to face Glasgow Warriors at BT Murrayfield in the BKT United Rugby Championship
Friday 30 December (kick-off 7.35pm) – live on Viaplay.

15. Emiliano Boffelli (25)

14. Wes Goosen (6)
13. Mark Bennett (77)
12. James Lang (29)
11. Duhan van der Merwe (71)

10. Blair Kinghorn (126)
9. Henry Pyrgos (78)

1. Boan Venter (37)
2. Tom Cruse (3)
3. WP Nel (181)
4. Sam Skinner (5)
5. Grant Gilchrist (183) CO-CAPTAIN
6. Jamie Ritchie (92) CO-CAPTAIN
7. Luke Crosbie (79)
8. Viliame Mata (105)

Replacements

16. Paddy Harrison (9)
17. Pierre Schoeman (92)
18. Angus Williams (18)
19. Marshall Sykes (32)
20. Connor Boyle (26)
21. Charlie Shiel (49)
22. Charlie Savala (21)
23. Cammy Hutchison (14)

Unavailable: Dave Cherry, Matt Currie, Chris Dean, Darcy Graham, Damien Hoyland, Henry Immelman, Adam McBurney, Stuart McInally, Cammy Scott, Hamish Watson.
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Glasgow Warriors team to face Edinburgh at BT Murrayfield, Friday 30 December, kick-off 7.35pm. You can watch the match live on Viaplay Sports, or follow all the action in our Live Match Centre at glasgowwarriors.org.

1. Jamie Bhatti (77)
2. Fraser Brown (131)
3. Lucio Sordoni (5)
4. Sintu Manjezi (11)
5. Richie Gray (92)
6. Matt Fagerson (85)
7. Sione Vailanu (6)
8. Jack Dempsey (28)

9. Ali Price (118)
10. Tom Jordan (10)
11. Kyle Steyn (C) (56)
12. Stafford McDowall (45)
13. Sione Tuipulotu (28)
14. Sebastian Cancelliere (18)
15. Ollie Smith (22)

Replacements

16. George Turner (85)
17. Nathan McBeth (10)
18. Simon Berghan (19)
19. JP du Preez (10)
20. Lewis Bean (25)
21. Cameron Neild (2)
22. George Horne (90)
23. Domingo Miotti (13)

Unavailable for selection: Gregor Brown (foot), Scott Cummings (foot), Rory Darge (ankle), Allan Dell (calf), Zander Fagerson (hamstring), Angus Fraser (calf), Oli Kebble (shoulder), Jack Mann (head), Enrique Pieretto (chest), Ross Thompson (ankle), Ryan Wilson (knee).
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Edinburgh team looks much better than last week on paper. Really excited to watch Kinghorn against that Glasgow defence and backrow.

Murphy Walker goes from starter to no minutes out of 180 in a huge game. SRU have to have a word with the coaches that it's not acceptable.
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