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Came up two years ago when his agent was last negotiating his contract probably.Camroc2 wrote: ↑Thu Dec 29, 2022 1:11 pm Reports in the Irish press that Scotland want to poach Munster OH Ben Healy before next years RWC.
https://www.independent.ie/sport/rugby/ ... 49385.html
How much is just Agent pre contract talk puffery, I don't know.
https://www.rugbypass.com/news/i-could- ... ben-healy/
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Doesn't make much sense to link him with Edinburgh as they have Kinghorn and Savala as young developmental but starter capable 10s. Glasgow don't have that kind of depth: Mioti and Jordan are NSQ (although I guess Jordan has been in Scotland a while) and Thompson is no longer flavour of the month.Camroc2 wrote: ↑Thu Dec 29, 2022 1:11 pm Reports in the Irish press that Scotland want to poach Munster OH Ben Healy before next years RWC.
https://www.independent.ie/sport/rugby/ ... 49385.html
How much is just Agent pre contract talk puffery, I don't know.
I'd presume there's legitimate SRU interest though. We're interested in every sq.
Definitely not getting a game while he's injuredI like neeps wrote: ↑Thu Dec 29, 2022 1:46 pmDoesn't make much sense to link him with Edinburgh as they have Kinghorn and Savala as young developmental but starter capable 10s. Glasgow don't have that kind of depth: Mioti and Jordan are NSQ (although I guess Jordan has been in Scotland a while) and Thompson is no longer flavour of the month.Camroc2 wrote: ↑Thu Dec 29, 2022 1:11 pm Reports in the Irish press that Scotland want to poach Munster OH Ben Healy before next years RWC.
https://www.independent.ie/sport/rugby/ ... 49385.html
How much is just Agent pre contract talk puffery, I don't know.
I'd presume there's legitimate SRU interest though. We're interested in every sq.
Jaco is pretty clearly off at the end of this season though so numbers wise there is scope at Edinburgh. Kinghorn is the established international (whether we agree with that or not) who will get the bulk of games and Savala + 1 as backup makes up the squad requirements.I like neeps wrote: ↑Thu Dec 29, 2022 1:46 pmDoesn't make much sense to link him with Edinburgh as they have Kinghorn and Savala as young developmental but starter capable 10s. Glasgow don't have that kind of depth: Mioti and Jordan are NSQ (although I guess Jordan has been in Scotland a while) and Thompson is no longer flavour of the month.Camroc2 wrote: ↑Thu Dec 29, 2022 1:11 pm Reports in the Irish press that Scotland want to poach Munster OH Ben Healy before next years RWC.
https://www.independent.ie/sport/rugby/ ... 49385.html
How much is just Agent pre contract talk puffery, I don't know.
I'd presume there's legitimate SRU interest though. We're interested in every sq.
How on earth did they manage that? A world class back three player who is also a world class kicker will have no shortage of options.
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I must've imagined Jordan starting over him earlier in the season when he was not injured?GrahamWa wrote: ↑Thu Dec 29, 2022 1:49 pmDefinitely not getting a game while he's injuredI like neeps wrote: ↑Thu Dec 29, 2022 1:46 pmDoesn't make much sense to link him with Edinburgh as they have Kinghorn and Savala as young developmental but starter capable 10s. Glasgow don't have that kind of depth: Mioti and Jordan are NSQ (although I guess Jordan has been in Scotland a while) and Thompson is no longer flavour of the month.Camroc2 wrote: ↑Thu Dec 29, 2022 1:11 pm Reports in the Irish press that Scotland want to poach Munster OH Ben Healy before next years RWC.
https://www.independent.ie/sport/rugby/ ... 49385.html
How much is just Agent pre contract talk puffery, I don't know.
I'd presume there's legitimate SRU interest though. We're interested in every sq.
That is terrific news. I really didn't think we'd be able to keep him, perhaps the big spenders just aren't out there at the moment.
He's clearly a team player, from what we've seen in behind the scenes vids after games he really gets into the celebrations and singing, and there are certainly worse places to live than Edinburgh.
Gwan Boff.
On Healy, if he comes in I'd hate to think it would be at the expense of Savala, who is coming along nicely. To be honest I think Muzza McCallum is a priority right now
Players like Edinburgh and the culture. Ben Atiga did a lot of good work helping players new to the country integrate quickly (particularly the PI's). He's now a player development manager but I imagine he or others still do similar work.
He was injured at the start of the season as well after having back surgery following the Arg tour. I think his return after that would have been managed too with bench spots rather than starting.I like neeps wrote: ↑Thu Dec 29, 2022 3:03 pmI must've imagined Jordan starting over him earlier in the season when he was not injured?GrahamWa wrote: ↑Thu Dec 29, 2022 1:49 pmDefinitely not getting a game while he's injuredI like neeps wrote: ↑Thu Dec 29, 2022 1:46 pm
Doesn't make much sense to link him with Edinburgh as they have Kinghorn and Savala as young developmental but starter capable 10s. Glasgow don't have that kind of depth: Mioti and Jordan are NSQ (although I guess Jordan has been in Scotland a while) and Thompson is no longer flavour of the month.
I'd presume there's legitimate SRU interest though. We're interested in every sq.
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I think whoever makes these decisions has decided McCallum just isn't worth it. The SRU can access Smaug's lair for Duhan, they'll happily sign NSQs Cruse and Nield until the end of the season, but can't find the cash for a cheap SQ tighthead? Unlikely. They just don't want him, if any club did McCallum would be signed somewhere by now.Tichtheid wrote: ↑Thu Dec 29, 2022 3:07 pmThat is terrific news. I really didn't think we'd be able to keep him, perhaps the big spenders just aren't out there at the moment.
He's clearly a team player, from what we've seen in behind the scenes vids after games he really gets into the celebrations and singing, and there are certainly worse places to live than Edinburgh.
Gwan Boff.
On Healy, if he comes in I'd hate to think it would be at the expense of Savala, who is coming along nicely. To be honest I think Muzza McCallum is a priority right now
Oh well, I can't wait to watch Angus Williams and Lucio Sordoni on Friday.
I think whoever makes these decisions has decided McCallum just isn't worth it. The SRU can access Smaug's lair for Duhan, they'll happily sign NSQs Cruse and Nield until the end of the season, but can't find the cash for a cheap SQ tighthead? Unlikely. They just don't want him, if any club did McCallum would be signed somewhere by now.I like neeps wrote: ↑Thu Dec 29, 2022 3:43 pm . To be honest I think Muzza McCallum is a priority right now
Oh well, I can't wait to watch Angus Williams and Lucio Sordoni on Friday.
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It's a richt boorach, as my grandmother would say.
I didn't watch Wuss this season but I'd been reading good reports on McCallum
Blair was fairly non chuffed about having Duhan thrust upon him by Dodson as shelling out 300k pa for him obviously screws up his budget for areas of the squad which really need strengthenedI like neeps wrote: ↑Thu Dec 29, 2022 3:43 pmI think whoever makes these decisions has decided McCallum just isn't worth it. The SRU can access Smaug's lair for Duhan, they'll happily sign NSQs Cruse and Nield until the end of the season, but can't find the cash for a cheap SQ tighthead? Unlikely. They just don't want him, if any club did McCallum would be signed somewhere by now.Tichtheid wrote: ↑Thu Dec 29, 2022 3:07 pmThat is terrific news. I really didn't think we'd be able to keep him, perhaps the big spenders just aren't out there at the moment.
He's clearly a team player, from what we've seen in behind the scenes vids after games he really gets into the celebrations and singing, and there are certainly worse places to live than Edinburgh.
Gwan Boff.
On Healy, if he comes in I'd hate to think it would be at the expense of Savala, who is coming along nicely. To be honest I think Muzza McCallum is a priority right now
Oh well, I can't wait to watch Angus Williams and Lucio Sordoni on Friday.
It is an odd one. But within the last 18 months he has been binned by both Scottish clubs.I like neeps wrote: ↑Thu Dec 29, 2022 3:43 pmI think whoever makes these decisions has decided McCallum just isn't worth it. The SRU can access Smaug's lair for Duhan, they'll happily sign NSQs Cruse and Nield until the end of the season, but can't find the cash for a cheap SQ tighthead? Unlikely. They just don't want him, if any club did McCallum would be signed somewhere by now.Tichtheid wrote: ↑Thu Dec 29, 2022 3:07 pmThat is terrific news. I really didn't think we'd be able to keep him, perhaps the big spenders just aren't out there at the moment.
He's clearly a team player, from what we've seen in behind the scenes vids after games he really gets into the celebrations and singing, and there are certainly worse places to live than Edinburgh.
Gwan Boff.
On Healy, if he comes in I'd hate to think it would be at the expense of Savala, who is coming along nicely. To be honest I think Muzza McCallum is a priority right now
Oh well, I can't wait to watch Angus Williams and Lucio Sordoni on Friday.
I wonder if there is something a little deeper. An insurance payout that would be impacted by taking peanuts, falling out with the SRU etc.
Cruse is a completely different situation in that hooker is an issue for Edinburgh right now.
Has it been confirmed anywhere that Duhan is on 300k at Edinburgh? Would seem unlikely given they let him walk by refusing to give him that less than a year ago.
Healy is only 24 in April and in a world cup year, Kinghorn will likely get eased back in after the WC. The main thing would be getting him into a squad somewhere.I like neeps wrote: ↑Thu Dec 29, 2022 1:46 pmDoesn't make much sense to link him with Edinburgh as they have Kinghorn and Savala as young developmental but starter capable 10s. Glasgow don't have that kind of depth: Mioti and Jordan are NSQ (although I guess Jordan has been in Scotland a while) and Thompson is no longer flavour of the month.Camroc2 wrote: ↑Thu Dec 29, 2022 1:11 pm Reports in the Irish press that Scotland want to poach Munster OH Ben Healy before next years RWC.
https://www.independent.ie/sport/rugby/ ... 49385.html
How much is just Agent pre contract talk puffery, I don't know.
I'd presume there's legitimate SRU interest though. We're interested in every sq.
I suspect this is agent talk though.
I am looking dicy for getting there. Not feeling too well anyway, but according to our local roads FB page there were three trees down this morning on my route to the A9, and alternatives to the A9 impassable from snow. In fact the AP itself is closed further north.
I'll email my ticket to my son in Edinburgh so he can take a pal.
There was a (potentially) bad RTC up Blair Atholl way earlier, think you're up that way ish?weegie01 wrote: ↑Fri Dec 30, 2022 1:39 pmI am looking dicy for getting there. Not feeling too well anyway, but according to our local roads FB page there were three trees down this morning on my route to the A9, and alternatives to the A9 impassable from snow. In fact the AP itself is closed further north.
I'll email my ticket to my son in Edinburgh so he can take a pal.
Turned down the chance of tickets yesterday due to the late kick-off, just as well, we're marooned and from what I've heard the water at our place is as deep as it's ever been. House is fine but the water at our road end is above welly top height. Just seen footage of a caravan floating down the Nith at Auldgirth, about 2 miles away
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Not quite that far north. I hit the A9 at Ballinluig.Jock42 wrote: ↑Fri Dec 30, 2022 1:45 pmThere was a (potentially) bad RTC up Blair Atholl way earlier, think you're up that way ish?weegie01 wrote: ↑Fri Dec 30, 2022 1:39 pmI am looking dicy for getting there. Not feeling too well anyway, but according to our local roads FB page there were three trees down this morning on my route to the A9, and alternatives to the A9 impassable from snow. In fact the AP itself is closed further north.
I'll email my ticket to my son in Edinburgh so he can take a pal.
I overlook the Water of Leith and it is easily the highest I have seen it for many years. Must have been a ton of rain last night. Dreghorn junction on Bypass has been blocked as well. Dry at the moment and warm compared to previous days though.
Went for a walk down that way an hour ago, the highest since the stadium flooded, first real test of the flood defences, and they’re doing the job.
And are there two g’s in Bugger Off?
I'm further up towards Colinton way - levels still very high at 3.45 so lots more water to come lower down. Good to hear the flood defences are working, not so long ago this would have flooded Murrayfield and housing in that area.
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Good build up by Glasgow. Not too sure what Paterson was doing..
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That's a really good Glasgow try!
Edinburgh's lineout has fallen apart... 5 international class jumpers. Get Cruse off and get Harrison on.
Edinburgh's lineout has fallen apart... 5 international class jumpers. Get Cruse off and get Harrison on.
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Really great try by Glasgow. Their pack has dominated again this week, the backs have added the final touch and Tuipolotu has just been sensational.
Edinburgh, 4 losses in 4. How's Blair turning this around?
Edinburgh, 4 losses in 4. How's Blair turning this around?
Unfortunately but not surprisingly Mike Blair as a coach is following the same profile as a player - talented, intelligent but lacking the grit to deliver when it matters.I like neeps wrote: ↑Fri Dec 30, 2022 9:08 pm Really great try by Glasgow. Their pack has dominated again this week, the backs have added the final touch and Tuipolotu has just been sensational.
Edinburgh, 4 losses in 4. How's Blair turning this around?
Steyn ahead of the kick for that try, looked a forward pass for one of the others. Sam Grove White making pish up in the second half. That being said Edinburgh were shite in the second half. Falling off tackles, set piece gone to hell, no bite, no dog, no aggression, no getting in Glasgow’s faces.
I don’t know what Blair is doing at half time but it’s repeatedly not working. I’m getting more and more worried that he’s reintroducing the culture that Cockerill got rid of.
I don’t know what Blair is doing at half time but it’s repeatedly not working. I’m getting more and more worried that he’s reintroducing the culture that Cockerill got rid of.
And are there two g’s in Bugger Off?
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Cockers got rid of... And then introduced a different type of toxic culture that Blair got rid of.Biffer wrote: ↑Fri Dec 30, 2022 10:54 pm Steyn ahead of the kick for that try, looked a forward pass for one of the others. Sam Grove White making pish up in the second half. That being said Edinburgh were shite in the second half. Falling off tackles, set piece gone to hell, no bite, no dog, no aggression, no getting in Glasgow’s faces.
I don’t know what Blair is doing at half time but it’s repeatedly not working. I’m getting more and more worried that he’s reintroducing the culture that Cockerill got rid of.
No point if he’s putting back the holding pen for internationals that was there before, is there?I like neeps wrote: ↑Fri Dec 30, 2022 11:00 pmCockers got rid of... And then introduced a different type of toxic culture that Blair got rid of.Biffer wrote: ↑Fri Dec 30, 2022 10:54 pm Steyn ahead of the kick for that try, looked a forward pass for one of the others. Sam Grove White making pish up in the second half. That being said Edinburgh were shite in the second half. Falling off tackles, set piece gone to hell, no bite, no dog, no aggression, no getting in Glasgow’s faces.
I don’t know what Blair is doing at half time but it’s repeatedly not working. I’m getting more and more worried that he’s reintroducing the culture that Cockerill got rid of.
And are there two g’s in Bugger Off?
I would like to know why Kinghorn stayed on. Throwing up on the pitch is never a good sign, and after that he just did not look like he wanted to be there. Losing focus like that is an old failing of his, but in this case at least there was some excuse if he was unwell.
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I have not seen any statistics, but Edinburgh's missed tackle count was unacceptable.
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I have not seen any statistics, but Edinburgh's missed tackle count was unacceptable.
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