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Reports in the Irish press that Scotland want to poach Munster OH Ben Healy before next years RWC.

https://www.independent.ie/sport/rugby/ ... 49385.html

How much is just Agent pre contract talk puffery, I don't know.
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Camroc2 wrote: Thu Dec 29, 2022 1:11 pm Reports in the Irish press that Scotland want to poach Munster OH Ben Healy before next years RWC.

https://www.independent.ie/sport/rugby/ ... 49385.html

How much is just Agent pre contract talk puffery, I don't know.
Came up two years ago when his agent was last negotiating his contract probably.
https://www.rugbypass.com/news/i-could- ... ben-healy/
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Camroc2 wrote: Thu Dec 29, 2022 1:11 pm Reports in the Irish press that Scotland want to poach Munster OH Ben Healy before next years RWC.

https://www.independent.ie/sport/rugby/ ... 49385.html

How much is just Agent pre contract talk puffery, I don't know.
Doesn't make much sense to link him with Edinburgh as they have Kinghorn and Savala as young developmental but starter capable 10s. Glasgow don't have that kind of depth: Mioti and Jordan are NSQ (although I guess Jordan has been in Scotland a while) and Thompson is no longer flavour of the month.

I'd presume there's legitimate SRU interest though. We're interested in every sq.
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I like neeps wrote: Thu Dec 29, 2022 1:46 pm
Camroc2 wrote: Thu Dec 29, 2022 1:11 pm Reports in the Irish press that Scotland want to poach Munster OH Ben Healy before next years RWC.

https://www.independent.ie/sport/rugby/ ... 49385.html

How much is just Agent pre contract talk puffery, I don't know.
Doesn't make much sense to link him with Edinburgh as they have Kinghorn and Savala as young developmental but starter capable 10s. Glasgow don't have that kind of depth: Mioti and Jordan are NSQ (although I guess Jordan has been in Scotland a while) and Thompson is no longer flavour of the month.

I'd presume there's legitimate SRU interest though. We're interested in every sq.
Definitely not getting a game while he's injured :roll:
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I like neeps wrote: Thu Dec 29, 2022 1:46 pm
Camroc2 wrote: Thu Dec 29, 2022 1:11 pm Reports in the Irish press that Scotland want to poach Munster OH Ben Healy before next years RWC.

https://www.independent.ie/sport/rugby/ ... 49385.html

How much is just Agent pre contract talk puffery, I don't know.
Doesn't make much sense to link him with Edinburgh as they have Kinghorn and Savala as young developmental but starter capable 10s. Glasgow don't have that kind of depth: Mioti and Jordan are NSQ (although I guess Jordan has been in Scotland a while) and Thompson is no longer flavour of the month.

I'd presume there's legitimate SRU interest though. We're interested in every sq.
Jaco is pretty clearly off at the end of this season though so numbers wise there is scope at Edinburgh. Kinghorn is the established international (whether we agree with that or not) who will get the bulk of games and Savala + 1 as backup makes up the squad requirements.
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Edinburgh re-sign Boffelli for another two years. Tremendous bit of business, I was certain he’d be off given the form over the last year.
And are there two g’s in Bugger Off?
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Biffer wrote: Thu Dec 29, 2022 2:22 pm Edinburgh re-sign Boffelli for another two years. Tremendous bit of business, I was certain he’d be off given the form over the last year.
How on earth did they manage that? A world class back three player who is also a world class kicker will have no shortage of options.
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GrahamWa wrote: Thu Dec 29, 2022 1:49 pm
I like neeps wrote: Thu Dec 29, 2022 1:46 pm
Camroc2 wrote: Thu Dec 29, 2022 1:11 pm Reports in the Irish press that Scotland want to poach Munster OH Ben Healy before next years RWC.

https://www.independent.ie/sport/rugby/ ... 49385.html

How much is just Agent pre contract talk puffery, I don't know.
Doesn't make much sense to link him with Edinburgh as they have Kinghorn and Savala as young developmental but starter capable 10s. Glasgow don't have that kind of depth: Mioti and Jordan are NSQ (although I guess Jordan has been in Scotland a while) and Thompson is no longer flavour of the month.

I'd presume there's legitimate SRU interest though. We're interested in every sq.
Definitely not getting a game while he's injured :roll:
I must've imagined Jordan starting over him earlier in the season when he was not injured?
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Biffer wrote: Thu Dec 29, 2022 2:22 pm Edinburgh re-sign Boffelli for another two years. Tremendous bit of business, I was certain he’d be off given the form over the last year.
That is terrific news. I really didn't think we'd be able to keep him, perhaps the big spenders just aren't out there at the moment.

He's clearly a team player, from what we've seen in behind the scenes vids after games he really gets into the celebrations and singing, and there are certainly worse places to live than Edinburgh.

Gwan Boff.


On Healy, if he comes in I'd hate to think it would be at the expense of Savala, who is coming along nicely. To be honest I think Muzza McCallum is a priority right now
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Biffer wrote: Thu Dec 29, 2022 2:22 pm Edinburgh re-sign Boffelli for another two years. Tremendous bit of business, I was certain he’d be off given the form over the last year.
Players like Edinburgh and the culture. Ben Atiga did a lot of good work helping players new to the country integrate quickly (particularly the PI's). He's now a player development manager but I imagine he or others still do similar work.
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That is terrific news
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I like neeps wrote: Thu Dec 29, 2022 3:03 pm
GrahamWa wrote: Thu Dec 29, 2022 1:49 pm
I like neeps wrote: Thu Dec 29, 2022 1:46 pm

Doesn't make much sense to link him with Edinburgh as they have Kinghorn and Savala as young developmental but starter capable 10s. Glasgow don't have that kind of depth: Mioti and Jordan are NSQ (although I guess Jordan has been in Scotland a while) and Thompson is no longer flavour of the month.

I'd presume there's legitimate SRU interest though. We're interested in every sq.
Definitely not getting a game while he's injured :roll:
I must've imagined Jordan starting over him earlier in the season when he was not injured?
He was injured at the start of the season as well after having back surgery following the Arg tour. I think his return after that would have been managed too with bench spots rather than starting.
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Tichtheid wrote: Thu Dec 29, 2022 3:07 pm
Biffer wrote: Thu Dec 29, 2022 2:22 pm Edinburgh re-sign Boffelli for another two years. Tremendous bit of business, I was certain he’d be off given the form over the last year.
That is terrific news. I really didn't think we'd be able to keep him, perhaps the big spenders just aren't out there at the moment.

He's clearly a team player, from what we've seen in behind the scenes vids after games he really gets into the celebrations and singing, and there are certainly worse places to live than Edinburgh.

Gwan Boff.


On Healy, if he comes in I'd hate to think it would be at the expense of Savala, who is coming along nicely. To be honest I think Muzza McCallum is a priority right now
I think whoever makes these decisions has decided McCallum just isn't worth it. The SRU can access Smaug's lair for Duhan, they'll happily sign NSQs Cruse and Nield until the end of the season, but can't find the cash for a cheap SQ tighthead? Unlikely. They just don't want him, if any club did McCallum would be signed somewhere by now.

Oh well, I can't wait to watch Angus Williams and Lucio Sordoni on Friday.
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I like neeps wrote: Thu Dec 29, 2022 3:43 pm . To be honest I think Muzza McCallum is a priority right now
I think whoever makes these decisions has decided McCallum just isn't worth it. The SRU can access Smaug's lair for Duhan, they'll happily sign NSQs Cruse and Nield until the end of the season, but can't find the cash for a cheap SQ tighthead? Unlikely. They just don't want him, if any club did McCallum would be signed somewhere by now.

Oh well, I can't wait to watch Angus Williams and Lucio Sordoni on Friday.
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I didn't watch Wuss this season but I'd been reading good reports on McCallum
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Thats great news about Boff. Really happy with that.
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I like neeps wrote: Thu Dec 29, 2022 3:43 pm
Tichtheid wrote: Thu Dec 29, 2022 3:07 pm
Biffer wrote: Thu Dec 29, 2022 2:22 pm Edinburgh re-sign Boffelli for another two years. Tremendous bit of business, I was certain he’d be off given the form over the last year.
That is terrific news. I really didn't think we'd be able to keep him, perhaps the big spenders just aren't out there at the moment.

He's clearly a team player, from what we've seen in behind the scenes vids after games he really gets into the celebrations and singing, and there are certainly worse places to live than Edinburgh.

Gwan Boff.


On Healy, if he comes in I'd hate to think it would be at the expense of Savala, who is coming along nicely. To be honest I think Muzza McCallum is a priority right now
I think whoever makes these decisions has decided McCallum just isn't worth it. The SRU can access Smaug's lair for Duhan, they'll happily sign NSQs Cruse and Nield until the end of the season, but can't find the cash for a cheap SQ tighthead? Unlikely. They just don't want him, if any club did McCallum would be signed somewhere by now.

Oh well, I can't wait to watch Angus Williams and Lucio Sordoni on Friday.
Blair was fairly non chuffed about having Duhan thrust upon him by Dodson as shelling out 300k pa for him obviously screws up his budget for areas of the squad which really need strengthened
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I like neeps wrote: Thu Dec 29, 2022 3:43 pm
Tichtheid wrote: Thu Dec 29, 2022 3:07 pm
Biffer wrote: Thu Dec 29, 2022 2:22 pm Edinburgh re-sign Boffelli for another two years. Tremendous bit of business, I was certain he’d be off given the form over the last year.
That is terrific news. I really didn't think we'd be able to keep him, perhaps the big spenders just aren't out there at the moment.

He's clearly a team player, from what we've seen in behind the scenes vids after games he really gets into the celebrations and singing, and there are certainly worse places to live than Edinburgh.

Gwan Boff.


On Healy, if he comes in I'd hate to think it would be at the expense of Savala, who is coming along nicely. To be honest I think Muzza McCallum is a priority right now
I think whoever makes these decisions has decided McCallum just isn't worth it. The SRU can access Smaug's lair for Duhan, they'll happily sign NSQs Cruse and Nield until the end of the season, but can't find the cash for a cheap SQ tighthead? Unlikely. They just don't want him, if any club did McCallum would be signed somewhere by now.

Oh well, I can't wait to watch Angus Williams and Lucio Sordoni on Friday.
It is an odd one. But within the last 18 months he has been binned by both Scottish clubs.

I wonder if there is something a little deeper. An insurance payout that would be impacted by taking peanuts, falling out with the SRU etc.

Cruse is a completely different situation in that hooker is an issue for Edinburgh right now.
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LenCohen wrote: Thu Dec 29, 2022 7:00 pm
Blair was fairly non chuffed about having Duhan thrust upon him by Dodson as shelling out 300k pa for him obviously screws up his budget for areas of the squad which really need strengthened
Has it been confirmed anywhere that Duhan is on 300k at Edinburgh? Would seem unlikely given they let him walk by refusing to give him that less than a year ago.
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I like neeps wrote: Thu Dec 29, 2022 1:46 pm
Camroc2 wrote: Thu Dec 29, 2022 1:11 pm Reports in the Irish press that Scotland want to poach Munster OH Ben Healy before next years RWC.

https://www.independent.ie/sport/rugby/ ... 49385.html

How much is just Agent pre contract talk puffery, I don't know.
Doesn't make much sense to link him with Edinburgh as they have Kinghorn and Savala as young developmental but starter capable 10s. Glasgow don't have that kind of depth: Mioti and Jordan are NSQ (although I guess Jordan has been in Scotland a while) and Thompson is no longer flavour of the month.

I'd presume there's legitimate SRU interest though. We're interested in every sq.
Healy is only 24 in April and in a world cup year, Kinghorn will likely get eased back in after the WC. The main thing would be getting him into a squad somewhere.

I suspect this is agent talk though.
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Anyone travelling into Edinburgh for tonight’s game, the trains are fucked sideways.
And are there two g’s in Bugger Off?
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Biffer wrote: Fri Dec 30, 2022 1:33 pm Anyone travelling into Edinburgh for tonight’s game, the trains are fucked sideways.
I am looking dicy for getting there. Not feeling too well anyway, but according to our local roads FB page there were three trees down this morning on my route to the A9, and alternatives to the A9 impassable from snow. In fact the AP itself is closed further north.

I'll email my ticket to my son in Edinburgh so he can take a pal.
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weegie01 wrote: Fri Dec 30, 2022 1:39 pm
Biffer wrote: Fri Dec 30, 2022 1:33 pm Anyone travelling into Edinburgh for tonight’s game, the trains are fucked sideways.
I am looking dicy for getting there. Not feeling too well anyway, but according to our local roads FB page there were three trees down this morning on my route to the A9, and alternatives to the A9 impassable from snow. In fact the AP itself is closed further north.

I'll email my ticket to my son in Edinburgh so he can take a pal.
There was a (potentially) bad RTC up Blair Atholl way earlier, think you're up that way ish?
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Turned down the chance of tickets yesterday due to the late kick-off, just as well, we're marooned and from what I've heard the water at our place is as deep as it's ever been. House is fine but the water at our road end is above welly top height. Just seen footage of a caravan floating down the Nith at Auldgirth, about 2 miles away :eek:
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They didn't quite have to close the water of leith flood gates next to Murray field but another six inches of water and they would have
And are there two g’s in Bugger Off?
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Jock42 wrote: Fri Dec 30, 2022 1:45 pm
weegie01 wrote: Fri Dec 30, 2022 1:39 pm
Biffer wrote: Fri Dec 30, 2022 1:33 pm Anyone travelling into Edinburgh for tonight’s game, the trains are fucked sideways.
I am looking dicy for getting there. Not feeling too well anyway, but according to our local roads FB page there were three trees down this morning on my route to the A9, and alternatives to the A9 impassable from snow. In fact the AP itself is closed further north.

I'll email my ticket to my son in Edinburgh so he can take a pal.
There was a (potentially) bad RTC up Blair Atholl way earlier, think you're up that way ish?
Not quite that far north. I hit the A9 at Ballinluig.
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I overlook the Water of Leith and it is easily the highest I have seen it for many years. Must have been a ton of rain last night. Dreghorn junction on Bypass has been blocked as well. Dry at the moment and warm compared to previous days though.
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dpedin wrote: Fri Dec 30, 2022 2:55 pm I overlook the Water of Leith and it is easily the highest I have seen it for many years. Must have been a ton of rain last night. Dreghorn junction on Bypass has been blocked as well. Dry at the moment and warm compared to previous days though.
Went for a walk down that way an hour ago, the highest since the stadium flooded, first real test of the flood defences, and they’re doing the job.
And are there two g’s in Bugger Off?
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Biffer wrote: Fri Dec 30, 2022 3:37 pm
dpedin wrote: Fri Dec 30, 2022 2:55 pm I overlook the Water of Leith and it is easily the highest I have seen it for many years. Must have been a ton of rain last night. Dreghorn junction on Bypass has been blocked as well. Dry at the moment and warm compared to previous days though.
Went for a walk down that way an hour ago, the highest since the stadium flooded, first real test of the flood defences, and they’re doing the job.
I'm further up towards Colinton way - levels still very high at 3.45 so lots more water to come lower down. Good to hear the flood defences are working, not so long ago this would have flooded Murrayfield and housing in that area.
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Healy to Scotland for more than 300k pa confirmed.

He'll be thanking his Scottish granny for that sort of pay rise !
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Camroc2 wrote: Fri Dec 30, 2022 4:53 pm Healy to Scotland for more than 300k pa confirmed.

He'll be thanking his Scottish granny for that sort of pay rise !
Confirmed, by who? There is nothing over here, and all I can see when I Google is speculation.

Where is he supposed to be going?
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weegie01 wrote: Fri Dec 30, 2022 5:29 pm
Camroc2 wrote: Fri Dec 30, 2022 4:53 pm Healy to Scotland for more than 300k pa confirmed.

He'll be thanking his Scottish granny for that sort of pay rise !
Confirmed, by who? There is nothing over here, and all I can see when I Google is speculation.

Where is he supposed to be going?
300k puts him in the very top earners as well. I'd be extremely surprised if a fringe URC starter gets that money.
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Good build up by Glasgow. Not too sure what Paterson was doing..
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That's a really good Glasgow try!

Edinburgh's lineout has fallen apart... 5 international class jumpers. Get Cruse off and get Harrison on.
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Really great try by Glasgow. Their pack has dominated again this week, the backs have added the final touch and Tuipolotu has just been sensational.

Edinburgh, 4 losses in 4. How's Blair turning this around?
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Gorgeous try by Weegies there
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I like neeps wrote: Fri Dec 30, 2022 9:08 pm Really great try by Glasgow. Their pack has dominated again this week, the backs have added the final touch and Tuipolotu has just been sensational.

Edinburgh, 4 losses in 4. How's Blair turning this around?
Unfortunately but not surprisingly Mike Blair as a coach is following the same profile as a player - talented, intelligent but lacking the grit to deliver when it matters.
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Steyn ahead of the kick for that try, looked a forward pass for one of the others. Sam Grove White making pish up in the second half. That being said Edinburgh were shite in the second half. Falling off tackles, set piece gone to hell, no bite, no dog, no aggression, no getting in Glasgow’s faces.

I don’t know what Blair is doing at half time but it’s repeatedly not working. I’m getting more and more worried that he’s reintroducing the culture that Cockerill got rid of.
And are there two g’s in Bugger Off?
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Biffer wrote: Fri Dec 30, 2022 10:54 pm Steyn ahead of the kick for that try, looked a forward pass for one of the others. Sam Grove White making pish up in the second half. That being said Edinburgh were shite in the second half. Falling off tackles, set piece gone to hell, no bite, no dog, no aggression, no getting in Glasgow’s faces.

I don’t know what Blair is doing at half time but it’s repeatedly not working. I’m getting more and more worried that he’s reintroducing the culture that Cockerill got rid of.
Cockers got rid of... And then introduced a different type of toxic culture that Blair got rid of.
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I like neeps wrote: Fri Dec 30, 2022 11:00 pm
Biffer wrote: Fri Dec 30, 2022 10:54 pm Steyn ahead of the kick for that try, looked a forward pass for one of the others. Sam Grove White making pish up in the second half. That being said Edinburgh were shite in the second half. Falling off tackles, set piece gone to hell, no bite, no dog, no aggression, no getting in Glasgow’s faces.

I don’t know what Blair is doing at half time but it’s repeatedly not working. I’m getting more and more worried that he’s reintroducing the culture that Cockerill got rid of.
Cockers got rid of... And then introduced a different type of toxic culture that Blair got rid of.
No point if he’s putting back the holding pen for internationals that was there before, is there?
And are there two g’s in Bugger Off?
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I would like to know why Kinghorn stayed on. Throwing up on the pitch is never a good sign, and after that he just did not look like he wanted to be there. Losing focus like that is an old failing of his, but in this case at least there was some excuse if he was unwell.

Edit.

I have not seen any statistics, but Edinburgh's missed tackle count was unacceptable.
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