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Blake wrote: Wed Jun 09, 2021 1:03 pm I don't mind it at all personally. It's part of professional sport. The risk is that some teams become too stacked with players and dominate for extended periods of time, but that also ends up working itself out eventually when they collapse under a massive salary bill and start bleeding their successor players to other teams as they start getting impatient being unable to unseat incumbent superstar players.

In the mid-2000's the Bulls had depth 3-players deep in pretty much every position, and a decade later they were in a massive rebuilding phase.

What I would love to see at some point is a NFL-style draft system, where promising youth players are allocated to struggling unions to shore up their player stocks and keep everything competitive. These smaller unions can then sell/trade these players to richer unions if they are low on cash, or keep them in the hope to attract fans and sponsors and be proper title contenders. The unions should then also be compensated based on how the junior players are ranked in the draft to incentivise youth development in their catchment area.

Unfortunately, with so many offers from Europe for SA players I don't think it would work. It only really works in the NFL because it is:
a. The premier American Football league
b. A monopoly so there isn't really anywhere else for players to go

But I still think it is great way to ensure that "lesser teams" get some decent injections of talent and/or cash.
I think that's way too forward-thinking for SARU.

It's still important for teams to have a handful of players to cross the 100 cap mark. Someone who is good enough to start every match if necessary, but probably not good enough for the Boks. Like what Jacques Botes did for the Sharks, for example. Every team needs that player who keeps the soul of the club going as other players come and go.
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More rumours of Bosch to move to WP :shock:

sarugbymag.co.za/sharks-cronje-bosch/
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assfly wrote: Wed Jun 09, 2021 12:51 pm
OomStruisbaai wrote: Wed Jun 09, 2021 12:35 pm Except WP.
:lolno:

You recently lost the Springbok captain, as well as Coetzee to Bath and Augustus to Saints.
You're losing Bongi, PSdT, Edwill van der Merwe.
That's literally from the last few weeks.

Tim Swiel is from the Sharks and Harlequins. Marvin Orie from the Lions. Speckman from the Cheetahs.
Tim Swiel is a Bishops boy, x Matie x WP. Marvin Orie is a Tygerberg HS , WP juniors player. They returned to their roots.

Speckman we did a favour, helping out the Boks coaching staff.
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OomStruisbaai wrote: Wed Jun 09, 2021 1:11 pm Tim Swiel is a Bishops boy, x Matie x WP. Marvin Orie is a Tygerberg HS , WP juniors player. They returned to their roots.

Speckman we did a favour, helping out the Boks coaching staff.
You're proving my point. If they were so loyal, they never would have left.
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assfly wrote: Wed Jun 09, 2021 1:13 pm
OomStruisbaai wrote: Wed Jun 09, 2021 1:11 pm Tim Swiel is a Bishops boy, x Matie x WP. Marvin Orie is a Tygerberg HS , WP juniors player. They returned to their roots.

Speckman we did a favour, helping out the Boks coaching staff.
You're proving my point. If they were so loyal, they never would have left.
The grass looked greener on the other side, so they returned.
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assfly wrote: Wed Jun 09, 2021 1:11 pm More rumours of Bosch to move to WP :shock:

sarugbymag.co.za/sharks-cronje-bosch/
Lets not read to much into rugbymag's rumours. Sards will be devastated
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OomStruisbaai wrote: Wed Jun 09, 2021 1:30 pm The grass looked greener on the other side, so they returned.
That doesn't even make sense.
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OomStruisbaai wrote: Wed Jun 09, 2021 1:31 pm
assfly wrote: Wed Jun 09, 2021 1:11 pm More rumours of Bosch to move to WP :shock:

sarugbymag.co.za/sharks-cronje-bosch/
Lets not read to much into rugbymag's rumours. Sards will be devastated
Please make this happen. I'll completely piss myself. :lolno:
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assfly wrote: Wed Jun 09, 2021 1:33 pm
OomStruisbaai wrote: Wed Jun 09, 2021 1:30 pm The grass looked greener on the other side, so they returned.
That doesn't even make sense.
Nah I throw a stone in there. No way WP can keep all their rugby talents. Its a professional game and they will go where the money is.
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sorCrer wrote: Wed Jun 09, 2021 1:35 pm
OomStruisbaai wrote: Wed Jun 09, 2021 1:31 pm
assfly wrote: Wed Jun 09, 2021 1:11 pm More rumours of Bosch to move to WP :shock:

sarugbymag.co.za/sharks-cronje-bosch/
Lets not read to much into rugbymag's rumours. Sards will be devastated
Please make this happen. I'll completely piss myself. :lolno:
Isn't that a given at your age?
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assfly wrote: Wed Jun 09, 2021 1:11 pm More rumours of Bosch to move to WP :shock:

sarugbymag.co.za/sharks-cronje-bosch/
Drinks on the house.
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handyman wrote: Wed Jun 09, 2021 2:14 pm
sorCrer wrote: Wed Jun 09, 2021 1:35 pm
OomStruisbaai wrote: Wed Jun 09, 2021 1:31 pm

Lets not read to much into rugbymag's rumours. Sards will be devastated
Please make this happen. I'll completely piss myself. :lolno:
Isn't that a given at your age?
Sod off, I'm younger than Sards.
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sorCrer wrote: Wed Jun 09, 2021 1:35 pm
OomStruisbaai wrote: Wed Jun 09, 2021 1:31 pm
assfly wrote: Wed Jun 09, 2021 1:11 pm More rumours of Bosch to move to WP :shock:

sarugbymag.co.za/sharks-cronje-bosch/
Lets not read to much into rugbymag's rumours. Sards will be devastated
Please make this happen. I'll completely piss myself. :lolno:
I fucking swear, if the WPRU buys Curwin Bosch I’m fucking done with this clown show. Done.

It’s like that S14 season with Elton Jantjies all over again :mad:
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Blake wrote: Wed Jun 09, 2021 4:35 pm
sorCrer wrote: Wed Jun 09, 2021 1:35 pm
OomStruisbaai wrote: Wed Jun 09, 2021 1:31 pm

Lets not read to much into rugbymag's rumours. Sards will be devastated
Please make this happen. I'll completely piss myself. :lolno:
I fucking swear, if the WPRU buys Curwin Bosch I’m fucking done with this clown show. Done.

It’s like that S14 season with Elton Jantjies all over again :mad:
+1000000
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sorCrer wrote: Wed Jun 09, 2021 1:35 pm
OomStruisbaai wrote: Wed Jun 09, 2021 1:31 pm
assfly wrote: Wed Jun 09, 2021 1:11 pm More rumours of Bosch to move to WP :shock:

sarugbymag.co.za/sharks-cronje-bosch/
Lets not read to much into rugbymag's rumours. Sards will be devastated
Please make this happen. I'll completely piss myself. :lolno:
I actually wish it would happen. Just for the lols
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Blake wrote: Wed Jun 09, 2021 4:35 pm

I fucking swear, if the WPRU buys Curwin Bosch I’m fucking done with this clown show. Done.

It’s like that S14 season with Elton Jantjies all over again :mad:
Not much of a WP supporter are you. The Stormers could be the worst team in the world and Newlands will still be packed.

U have been saying for years. Your administration is a joke. Does anyone do anything about it...........nooooooo
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sorCrer wrote: Wed Jun 09, 2021 3:19 pm
handyman wrote: Wed Jun 09, 2021 2:14 pm
sorCrer wrote: Wed Jun 09, 2021 1:35 pm

Please make this happen. I'll completely piss myself. :lolno:
Isn't that a given at your age?
Sod off, I'm younger than Sards.
Oom, is 2 years younger than Sards.
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Chilli wrote: Wed Jun 09, 2021 7:52 pm
sorCrer wrote: Wed Jun 09, 2021 3:19 pm
handyman wrote: Wed Jun 09, 2021 2:14 pm

Isn't that a given at your age?
Sod off, I'm younger than Sards.
Oom, is 2 years younger than Sards.
:shock: both of them post like teenagers. :grin:
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Keo reckons the Sharks should roll over in the national interest and let the Bulls win.

Is hy bevok of wat
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assfly wrote: Wed Jun 09, 2021 1:11 pm More rumours of Bosch to move to WP :shock:

sarugbymag.co.za/sharks-cronje-bosch/
It's a rumour I would love to see happen. Bosch isn't developing at the Sharks, a change of scenery and fighting to get into the team may do him wonders.
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TheNatalShark wrote: Thu Jun 10, 2021 4:52 am It's a rumour I would love to see happen. Bosch isn't developing at the Sharks, a change of scenery and fighting to get into the team may do him wonders.
I think he has developed a lot at the Sharks, just not so much in the last 12 months. He finished the 2020 SR season as arguable the best flyhalf in the competition, but the Sharks form in general hasn't been great since then.

I'd be sad to see him go, but I think a move overseas would do him much more good than going anywhere else in SA.
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Sards wrote: Wed Jun 09, 2021 10:42 pm Keo reckons the Sharks should roll over in the national interest and let the Bulls win.

Is hy bevok of wat
That does seem to be the consensus.

I'm not expecting too many favours from the ref this weekend.
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Sards wrote: Wed Jun 09, 2021 10:42 pm Keo reckons the Sharks should roll over in the national interest and let the Bulls win.

Is hy bevok of wat
Keo is a twat but don't Bulls just need a bonus point to go through?
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The Bosch rumour may be true.
I see Lionel Cronje is returning to the Sharks....

As well as Cameron Wright and Khutha Mchunu
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So how many Stormers supporters are giving up their membership because of CURWIN....

Hell , this is the funniest thing ever.......
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sorCrer wrote: Thu Jun 10, 2021 8:37 am
Sards wrote: Wed Jun 09, 2021 10:42 pm Keo reckons the Sharks should roll over in the national interest and let the Bulls win.

Is hy bevok of wat
Keo is a twat but don't Bulls just need a bonus point to go through?
just..............?
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Sards wrote: Thu Jun 10, 2021 9:29 am So how many Stormers supporters are giving up their membership because of CURWIN....

Hell , this is the funniest thing ever.......
It's been years and they still haven't coached him how to tackle. I guess he is contemplating WP to better himself.
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handyman wrote: Thu Jun 10, 2021 10:32 am
Sards wrote: Thu Jun 10, 2021 9:29 am So how many Stormers supporters are giving up their membership because of CURWIN....

Hell , this is the funniest thing ever.......
It's been years and they still haven't coached him how to tackle. I guess he is contemplating WP to better himself.
Hell...I think he wants some of that 5 bar salary....

He will definitely add to the Stormers value......actually I am getting used to playing against ex Sharks players...
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Sards wrote: Thu Jun 10, 2021 10:38 am
handyman wrote: Thu Jun 10, 2021 10:32 am
Sards wrote: Thu Jun 10, 2021 9:29 am So how many Stormers supporters are giving up their membership because of CURWIN....

Hell , this is the funniest thing ever.......
It's been years and they still haven't coached him how to tackle. I guess he is contemplating WP to better himself.
Hell...I think he wants some of that 5 bar salary....

He will definitely add to the Stormers value......actually I am getting used to playing against ex Sharks players...
See, that's the difference between WP and the other unions. We pay players R 5 mil when we are in financial difficulties, imagine what their salary would be when the financials improve...
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Sards wrote: Thu Jun 10, 2021 9:29 am So how many Stormers supporters are giving up their membership because of CURWIN....

Hell , this is the funniest thing ever.......
Curwin Bosch is very talented.
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Cell C Sharks
1. Khwezi Mona
2. Kerron van Vuuren
3. Khutha Mchunu 
4. JJ van der Mescht
5. Hyron Andrews
6. Siya Kolisi
7. Thembelani Bholi
8. Phepsi Buthelezi
9. Jaden Hendrikse
10. Curwin Bosch
11. Makazole Mapimpi
12. Marius Louw
13. Lukhanyo Am (C)
14. Anthony Volmink
15. Aphelele Fassi

Replacements
*To be confirmed

Anthony Volmink at 14 is very interesting....Jake will be watching that. They are going to run the ball. 2 playmakers in the backline.
Awesome to see Fassi. That kid is so exciting to watch.
Which all amounts to nothing as we look poor in the forwards.
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Sards wrote: Thu Jun 10, 2021 1:02 pm Cell C Sharks
1. Khwezi Mona
2. Kerron van Vuuren
3. Khutha Mchunu 
4. JJ van der Mescht
5. Hyron Andrews
6. Siya Kolisi
7. Thembelani Bholi
8. Phepsi Buthelezi
9. Jaden Hendrikse
10. Curwin Bosch
11. Makazole Mapimpi
12. Marius Louw
13. Lukhanyo Am (C)
14. Anthony Volmink
15. Aphelele Fassi

Replacements
*To be confirmed

Anthony Volmink at 14 is very interesting....Jake will be watching that. They are going to run the ball. 2 playmakers in the backline.
Awesome to see Fassi. That kid is so exciting to watch.
Which all amounts to nothing as we look poor in the forwards.
Might as well: this game is going to be a penalty-fest.

Keeping it in the forwards is going to result in a steady march upfield for the Bulls.
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Bulls – 15 Dawid Kriel, 14 Madosh Tambwe, 13 Marco Jansen van Vuren, 12 Cornal Hendricks, 11 Stravino Jacobs, 10 Morne Steyn, 9 Ivan van Zyl, 8 Marcell Coetzee, 7 Ruan Nortjie, 6 Marco van Staden, 5 Janko Swanepoel, 4 Walt Steenkamp, 3 Mornay Smith, 2 Johan Grobbelaar, 1 Gerhard Steenekamp.
Subs: 16 Schalk Erasmus, 17 Jacques van Rooyen, 18 Trevor Nyakane, 19 Nizaam Carr, 20 Muller Uys, 21 Keagan Johannes, 22 Clinton Swart, 23 Gio Aplon, 24 Robert Hunt, 25 Jan Uys, 26 Dawid Kellerman, 27 Richard Kriel.
Date: Saturday, June 12
Venue: Kings Park, Durban
Kick-off: 18.15 (16.15 GMT)
Referee: AJ Jacobs
Assistant referees: Jaco Peyper, Griffin Colby
TMO: Stuart Berry
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Bulls giving another two fingers up to transformation :crazy:
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assfly wrote: Thu Jun 10, 2021 1:26 pm Bulls giving another two fingers up to transformation :crazy:
Jake White had his fair deal of transformation at the Springboks.
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I can't see a Sharks victory. Hyron and JJ will have to play out their skins.

Looking for a miracle here


Its finals time for the SA version ladies
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Stormers Lion game off due to Corvid in the Lions camp. Stormers back in 2nd place after getting 4 points.

The PRO14 Rainbow Cup SA match between the Emirates Lions and DHL Stormers, scheduled for Cape Town Stadium on Saturday, has been cancelled in line with COVID-19 protocols.

The decision was taken as part of prescribed precautions advised by the National Institute for Communicable Diseases (NICD) to limit the risk of further infection in the rugby community.

The decision was triggered on Friday following receipt of positive results from scheduled testing of the Emirates Lions squad. As determined by the competition rules, the DHL Stormers will be awarded four log points because of the cancellation.

“The Emirates Lions have followed all protocols and taken all the appropriate steps,” said Jurie Roux, SA Rugby CEO.

“While the cancellation is unfortunate, their approach ensures that the risk of cancellation of their match against the British & Irish Lions in the Castle Lager Lions Series on 3 July is well managed.”
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Would have been PSdT and Bongi's last game for the Stormers. Springbok coaches will be happy and a good thing for all the players in the Bok camp.
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OomStruisbaai wrote: Fri Jun 11, 2021 9:32 am Springbok coaches will be happy and a good thing for all the players in the Bok camp.
Agreed. No point in risking any more injuries at this stage.

Swift recovery to whichever Lions player is infected.
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OomStruisbaai wrote: Fri Jun 11, 2021 9:27 am Stormers Lion game off due to Corvid in the Lions camp. Stormers back in 2nd place after getting 4 points.

The PRO14 Rainbow Cup SA match between the Emirates Lions and DHL Stormers, scheduled for Cape Town Stadium on Saturday, has been cancelled in line with COVID-19 protocols.

The decision was taken as part of prescribed precautions advised by the National Institute for Communicable Diseases (NICD) to limit the risk of further infection in the rugby community.

The decision was triggered on Friday following receipt of positive results from scheduled testing of the Emirates Lions squad. As determined by the competition rules, the DHL Stormers will be awarded four log points because of the cancellation.

“The Emirates Lions have followed all protocols and taken all the appropriate steps,” said Jurie Roux, SA Rugby CEO.

“While the cancellation is unfortunate, their approach ensures that the risk of cancellation of their match against the British & Irish Lions in the Castle Lager Lions Series on 3 July is well managed.”
W3 all know that SARU will go to any lengths to forward WPs interest. Especially if they are paying half the salaries
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