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Posted: **Fri Jan 21, 2022 9:56 pm**

Quins addiction to last gasp finishes is going to cost them one day, but it's not this one.

Posted: **Fri Jan 21, 2022 9:57 pm**

Bizarre game. Loads of weird decisions not going Castres way, but then they also got away with a couple of stone cold penalty tries.

Never boring, eh.

Posted: **Fri Jan 21, 2022 9:57 pm**

Edinburgh beat Brive 66-3

Posted: **Fri Jan 21, 2022 9:57 pm**

Mike Adamson setting UK-France relations back quite abit with that display

How many fuck ups did he make in Quins favour over the course of the game?

You'd be steaming if you were a Castres fan.

Posted: **Fri Jan 21, 2022 9:58 pm**

Mike Adamson is a terrible ref.

Posted: **Fri Jan 21, 2022 9:59 pm**

Jim Lahey wrote: Fri Jan 21, 2022 9:57 pm Mike Adamson setting UK-France relations back quite abit with that display

How many fuck ups did he make in Quins favour over the course of the game?

You'd be steaming if you were a Castres fan.

Not many. Over that last 10 though...

Posted: **Fri Jan 21, 2022 10:02 pm**

Yeah more than a few times he gave a penalty against Castres for the wrong reason - right outcome, mind. Like being penalised for good turnovers with the wrong justification, but only after they'd taken someone out off the ball or had the tackler backing into in the "channel" getting in the way, etc. The breakdowns were a mess, Castres were throwing everything at them. Loads of weird calls though.

That last gasp ending wouldn't have been needed if he had spotted the maul literally being tackled to the floor a metre from the line, mind

Posted: **Fri Jan 21, 2022 10:04 pm**

Torq right now is sticking pins into a Mike Adamson doll

Posted: **Fri Jan 21, 2022 10:12 pm**

Tichtheid wrote: Fri Jan 21, 2022 9:57 pm Edinburgh beat Brive 66-3

Jesus. That's some score

Makes the 'draw' LI got with them for our cancelled home game the pre Christmas even more annoying.

Posted: **Fri Jan 21, 2022 10:15 pm**

tbh, I think it's shit for wankers like Austin Healy to call out referees' decisions like that.

At the last ruck, the one Healy bleated on about, Adamson was on the other side unsighted and the referee is part of a team. If he misses it and the two ARs miss it, tough shite, move on.

Adamson wasn't the difference in the game, referees seldom, if ever, are the difference. Go through every single play and you'll find several reasons to award penalties to either side in every game, and it is stop start enough as it is.

This does not in any way dismiss the fact that homer refereeing exists, but over the course of a season the better teams win leagues and cups

Posted: **Fri Jan 21, 2022 10:17 pm**

Margin__Walker wrote: Fri Jan 21, 2022 10:12 pm
Tichtheid wrote: Fri Jan 21, 2022 9:57 pm Edinburgh beat Brive 66-3
Jesus. That's some score

Makes the 'draw' LI got with them for our cancelled home game the pre Christmas even more annoying.

Not the strongest Edinburgh team but also not much interest in tackling from Brive.

Posted: **Fri Jan 21, 2022 10:45 pm**

Tichtheid wrote: Fri Jan 21, 2022 10:15 pm tbh, I think it's shit for wankers like Austin Healy to call out referees' decisions like that.

At the last ruck, the one Healy bleated on about, Adamson was on the other side unsighted and the referee is part of a team. If he misses it and the two ARs miss it, tough shite, move on.

Adamson wasn't the difference in the game, referees seldom, if ever, are the difference. Go through every single play and you'll find several reasons to award penalties to either side in every game, and it is stop start enough as it is.

This does not in any way dismiss the fact that homer refereeing exists, but over the course of a season the better teams win leagues and cups

Adamson was the difference tbh.

Posted: **Fri Jan 21, 2022 11:00 pm**

Weird way to spell Botica.

Posted: **Fri Jan 21, 2022 11:03 pm**

C69 wrote: Fri Jan 21, 2022 10:45 pm
Tichtheid wrote: Fri Jan 21, 2022 10:15 pm tbh, I think it's shit for wankers like Austin Healy to call out referees' decisions like that.

At the last ruck, the one Healy bleated on about, Adamson was on the other side unsighted and the referee is part of a team. If he misses it and the two ARs miss it, tough shite, move on.

Adamson wasn't the difference in the game, referees seldom, if ever, are the difference. Go through every single play and you'll find several reasons to award penalties to either side in every game, and it is stop start enough as it is.

This does not in any way dismiss the fact that homer refereeing exists, but over the course of a season the better teams win leagues and cups
Adamson was the difference tbh.

How so?

Posted: **Fri Jan 21, 2022 11:09 pm**

C69 wrote: Fri Jan 21, 2022 10:45 pm
Tichtheid wrote: Fri Jan 21, 2022 10:15 pm tbh, I think it's shit for wankers like Austin Healy to call out referees' decisions like that.

At the last ruck, the one Healy bleated on about, Adamson was on the other side unsighted and the referee is part of a team. If he misses it and the two ARs miss it, tough shite, move on.

Adamson wasn't the difference in the game, referees seldom, if ever, are the difference. Go through every single play and you'll find several reasons to award penalties to either side in every game, and it is stop start enough as it is.

This does not in any way dismiss the fact that homer refereeing exists, but over the course of a season the better teams win leagues and cups
Adamson was the difference tbh.

Nah, fuck off with that. Castres left enough points out there to win the game.Yeah some late decisions might have been more in Quins favour, but not exclusively and Adamson was shite for both throughout the game. It all balances out.

Posted: **Fri Jan 21, 2022 11:09 pm**

Hell's teeth, we're becoming the New England Patriots. Tuck rule!

Posted: **Sat Jan 22, 2022 12:04 am**

robmatic wrote: Fri Jan 21, 2022 10:17 pm
Margin__Walker wrote: Fri Jan 21, 2022 10:12 pm
Tichtheid wrote: Fri Jan 21, 2022 9:57 pm Edinburgh beat Brive 66-3
Jesus. That's some score

Makes the 'draw' LI got with them for our cancelled home game the pre Christmas even more annoying.
Not the strongest Edinburgh team but also not much interest in tackling from Brive.

Edinburgh could have had another 30 if they’d kept their level of play up for 80 minutes.

Posted: **Sat Jan 22, 2022 12:09 am**

JM2K6 wrote: Fri Jan 21, 2022 11:00 pm Weird way to spell Botica.

bloody right. He can't escape that particular butchery

Posted: **Sat Jan 22, 2022 12:21 am**

fishfoodie wrote: Sat Jan 22, 2022 12:09 am
JM2K6 wrote: Fri Jan 21, 2022 11:00 pm Weird way to spell Botica.
bloody right. He can't escape that particular butchery

Plus all the other points he left on the field. At least he was a good goalkicker when he was at Quins.

Posted: **Sat Jan 22, 2022 7:55 am**

C69 wrote: Fri Jan 21, 2022 10:45 pm
Tichtheid wrote: Fri Jan 21, 2022 10:15 pm tbh, I think it's shit for wankers like Austin Healy to call out referees' decisions like that.

At the last ruck, the one Healy bleated on about, Adamson was on the other side unsighted and the referee is part of a team. If he misses it and the two ARs miss it, tough shite, move on.

Adamson wasn't the difference in the game, referees seldom, if ever, are the difference. Go through every single play and you'll find several reasons to award penalties to either side in every game, and it is stop start enough as it is.

This does not in any way dismiss the fact that homer refereeing exists, but over the course of a season the better teams win leagues and cups
Adamson was the difference tbh.

Yes. He was. Quins really lucky that he awarded the blocking try and for a Brace special in disallowing the legit turnover which would have ended the game. FWIW, I smelled upset on this one and went Quins < 5 and so can thank Adams' efforts for my get out of jail card.

{EDIT} Plus Marler's effort which would have seen red from most refs IMHO.

Posted: **Sat Jan 22, 2022 8:05 am**

ASMO wrote: Fri Jan 21, 2022 10:04 pm Torq right now is sticking pins into a Mike Adamson doll

Hah. See my post above. I was torn because my stake was on Quins sneaking it. Average pick was Quins by 12+ which shows what some people know!

Posted: **Sat Jan 22, 2022 8:34 am**

This should please Torq

Mike Adamson of Scotland is the only other referee to have two matches, officiating France v Scotland in Round 1 before also being on the whistle for England v Wales at Twickenham in Round 3.

Posted: **Sat Jan 22, 2022 9:03 am**

JM2K6 wrote: Sat Jan 22, 2022 12:21 am
fishfoodie wrote: Sat Jan 22, 2022 12:09 am
JM2K6 wrote: Fri Jan 21, 2022 11:00 pm Weird way to spell Botica.
bloody right. He can't escape that particular butchery
Plus all the other points he left on the field. At least he was a good goalkicker when he was at Quins.

What was the general view on how things ended for Botica in a Quins shirt?

I'm struggling to think of a more unprofessional and stupid thing that any other player has done that is worse than that. Robshaw not going for goal against Wales in the RWC15 and then calling it to himself at the front of the lineout perhaps?

Posted: **Sat Jan 22, 2022 9:29 am**

Biffer wrote: Sat Jan 22, 2022 12:04 am
robmatic wrote: Fri Jan 21, 2022 10:17 pm
Margin__Walker wrote: Fri Jan 21, 2022 10:12 pm

Jesus. That's some score

Makes the 'draw' LI got with them for our cancelled home game the pre Christmas even more annoying.
Not the strongest Edinburgh team but also not much interest in tackling from Brive.
Edinburgh could have had another 30 if they’d kept their level of play up for 80 minutes.

We were good but Brive, jesus, why even board the plane.

Posted: **Sat Jan 22, 2022 9:31 am**

So the freeview CH4 game today is Bath v Leinster. Should be a close one, if Leinster went out on the lash last night that is.

Posted: **Sat Jan 22, 2022 9:51 am**

Blackmac wrote: Sat Jan 22, 2022 9:29 am We were good but Brive, jesus, why even board the plane.

Agree. Much as Castres are disliked in France, you rarely see them simply throw games.

Posted: **Sat Jan 22, 2022 9:53 am**

PCPhil wrote: Sat Jan 22, 2022 9:31 am So the freeview CH4 game today is Bath v Leinster. Should be a close one, if Leinster went out on the lash last night that is.

You couldn't make it up. What's the point of watching that one? I doubt even Leinster any fans would clsincaim to be excited by the prospect of the most foregone conclusion since Mussolini said no surrender.

Posted: **Sat Jan 22, 2022 9:58 am**

PCPhil wrote: Sat Jan 22, 2022 9:31 am So the freeview CH4 game today is Bath v Leinster. Should be a close one, if Leinster went out on the lash last night that is.

And tie their boot laces together.

Posted: **Sat Jan 22, 2022 10:56 am**

Torquemada 1420 wrote: Sat Jan 22, 2022 9:51 am
Blackmac wrote: Sat Jan 22, 2022 9:29 am We were good but Brive, jesus, why even board the plane.
Agree. Much as Castres are disliked in France, you rarely see them simply throw games.

After Montpellier last week, some of the French teams can be a disgrace to the game.

Posted: **Sat Jan 22, 2022 11:06 am**

Blackmac wrote: Sat Jan 22, 2022 10:56 am
Torquemada 1420 wrote: Sat Jan 22, 2022 9:51 am
Blackmac wrote: Sat Jan 22, 2022 9:29 am We were good but Brive, jesus, why even board the plane.
Agree. Much as Castres are disliked in France, you rarely see them simply throw games.
After Montpellier last week, some of the French teams can be a disgrace to the game.

We've come full circle. For many years, most Fre sides considered T* more important than Europe. Toulouse being the consistent exception but they had deep resources enabling them to compete on 2 fronts. The Parker was viewed as a waste of time and so you saw stuff like Agen chucking games.

That all went away for a while but in recent times, it has come back. Sure, covid has not helped, but it's more than that. Interest in the comps has waned. Many Fre supporters don't even bother watching the Euro games. I suspect if the LNR offered the clubs the same funds and the option to dip Europe, they'd all take it.

Posted: **Sat Jan 22, 2022 11:41 am**

Hal Jordan wrote: Sat Jan 22, 2022 8:34 am This should please Torq

Mike Adamson of Scotland is the only other referee to have two matches, officiating France v Scotland in Round 1 before also being on the whistle for England v Wales at Twickenham in Round 3.

He can't be doing that in Round 1 as he's Scottish

edit. I checked, he had France v Italy. 6N fucked up their own copy

Posted: **Sat Jan 22, 2022 11:47 am**

mos_eisely_ wrote: Sat Jan 22, 2022 11:41 am
Hal Jordan wrote: Sat Jan 22, 2022 8:34 am This should please Torq

Mike Adamson of Scotland is the only other referee to have two matches, officiating France v Scotland in Round 1 before also being on the whistle for England v Wales at Twickenham in Round 3.

He can't be doing that in Round 1 as he's Scottish

edit. I checked, he had France v Italy. 6N fucked up their own copy

I have seen him ref a few games, cant recall a good performance from him, not sure how he has managed to get Tier 1 international games.

Posted: **Sat Jan 22, 2022 12:31 pm**

Racing v Saints match tomorrow gone.
Positive tests in the Saints camp this morning.
Racing "win" 28-0, which is probably a lot less than the actual result would have been!!!

Posted: **Sat Jan 22, 2022 12:38 pm**

SaintK wrote: Sat Jan 22, 2022 12:31 pm Racing v Saints match tomorrow gone.
Positive tests in the Saints camp this morning.
Racing "win" 28-0, which is probably a lot less than the actual result would have been!!!

Well, now Mackey has spoken and whilst we can hope the crook will be in jail sometime soon, he is still head of the FFR and has spoken out against EPCR. So now we have Fra's top club, the body that runs the Fre league and the national federation all laying into EPCR.

Posted: **Sat Jan 22, 2022 12:56 pm**

Nice to have some Leinstertainment on public TV in the UK - thanks Channel 4.

Is that Francois Louw? Or what's left of him?

Posted: **Sat Jan 22, 2022 1:00 pm**

Bath ready for the bumming

Posted: **Sat Jan 22, 2022 1:05 pm**

ASMO wrote: Sat Jan 22, 2022 1:00 pm Bath ready for the bumming

Yup. 2 good chances already squandered from complete ineptitude.

Posted: **Sat Jan 22, 2022 1:09 pm**

ASMO wrote: Sat Jan 22, 2022 11:47 am
mos_eisely_ wrote: Sat Jan 22, 2022 11:41 am
Hal Jordan wrote: Sat Jan 22, 2022 8:34 am This should please Torq

He can't be doing that in Round 1 as he's Scottish

edit. I checked, he had France v Italy. 6N fucked up their own copy.
I have seen him ref a few games, cant recall a good performance from him, not sure how he has managed to get Tier 1 international games.

I think most Scots would agree that Hollie Davidson is the best Scottish ref. Personally, I have always been impressed by her calm and authoritative manner. She manages that difficult balance of being friendly but leaving no one in any doubt who is in charge. She is less experienced than Adamson, and she is very young for a ref, but her day will come, as will that of Joy Neville.

Posted: **Sat Jan 22, 2022 1:10 pm**

SaintK wrote: Sat Jan 22, 2022 12:31 pm Racing v Saints match tomorrow gone.
Positive tests in the Saints camp this morning.
Racing "win" 28-0, which is probably a lot less than the actual result would have been!!!

Looking at the two sides I reckon they would have put 50+ on us. We've got no chance of getting through and I'd rather Saints didn't take another hammering, so this isn't terrible news.

Posted: **Sat Jan 22, 2022 1:10 pm**

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