Saffers

[OomStruisbaai]

The longest, uninterrupted white beach in the Southern Hemisphere? It's right here at Struisbaai

Apartheid beach

We do have a lot of sharks but there is enough food in the sea and they never attacked people on the beach.

[sorCrer]

minimum monthly sea temperatures in Mossel Bay
Jan Feb Mar Apr May Jun Jul Aug Sep Oct Nov Dec;
Min °C: 18.7: 19.1: 18.6: 17.5: 16.9: 16.4: 16.5: 15.8: 16.6: 16.9: 17.9: 18.7:

minimum monthly sea temperatures in Struisbaai
Jan Feb Mar Apr May Jun Jul Aug Sep Oct Nov Dec;
Min °C: 19.6: 20.2: 19.6: 16.6: 14.6: 14.5: 14: 13.7: 14.1: 15.2: 15.9: 18.3:

minimum monthly sea temperatures in Melkbosstrand
Jan Feb Mar Apr May Jun Jul Aug Sep Oct Nov Dec;
Min °C: 16.7: 16.6: 16.6: 14.9: 14.9: 14.9: 14.3: 14.1: 14.5: 14.8: 16: 16.7:

Jan Feb Mar Apr May Jun Jul Aug Sep Oct Nov Dec
Min °C 24.1 24.7 24.9 23 22.3 21.8 20.1 19.7 21 21.1 21.8 22.9
Max °C 27.8 27.5 27.3 27.2 25 23.7 23.8 22.7 23.2 23.7 24.5 26.8

[handyman]

Water in Struisbaai is hotter then Mosselbaai. Still Indian Ocean.

Haha in jou drome oom. Dis donners koud in Struisbaai. Dis as die wind vir 5 minute ophou waai dat mens kan swem.

Dan was jy nog nie by die Weskus nie. Ek swem omtrent elke dag in die somer as dit nie reen of die wind te erg is nie. By die weskus is die voete blou en dood van die koue, winter of somer.

Ja, maar die Weskus is nie swemplek nie haha, daar vries jou balle af, dis hoekom ek net soontoe gaan as my vrou my saamsleep na skoonmense toe, dis naby hul huis. Ek het 'n sagte plek vir Hartenbos.

Ek spot sommer, ek like Struis kwaai.

[OomStruisbaai]

minimum monthly sea temperatures in Mossel Bay
Jan Feb Mar Apr May Jun Jul Aug Sep Oct Nov Dec;
Min °C: 18.7: 19.1: 18.6: 17.5: 16.9: 16.4: 16.5: 15.8: 16.6: 16.9: 17.9: 18.7:

minimum monthly sea temperatures in Struisbaai
Jan Feb Mar Apr May Jun Jul Aug Sep Oct Nov Dec;
Min °C: 19.6: 20.2: 19.6: 16.6: 14.6: 14.5: 14: 13.7: 14.1: 15.2: 15.9: 18.3:

minimum monthly sea temperatures in Melkbosstrand
Jan Feb Mar Apr May Jun Jul Aug Sep Oct Nov Dec;
Min °C: 16.7: 16.6: 16.6: 14.9: 14.9: 14.9: 14.3: 14.1: 14.5: 14.8: 16: 16.7:

Jan Feb Mar Apr May Jun Jul Aug Sep Oct Nov Dec
Min °C 24.1 24.7 24.9 23 22.3 21.8 20.1 19.7 21 21.1 21.8 22.9
Max °C 27.8 27.5 27.3 27.2 25 23.7 23.8 22.7 23.2 23.7 24.5 26.8

Sun City Beach?

[Sards]

minimum monthly sea temperatures in Mossel Bay
Jan Feb Mar Apr May Jun Jul Aug Sep Oct Nov Dec;
Min °C: 18.7: 19.1: 18.6: 17.5: 16.9: 16.4: 16.5: 15.8: 16.6: 16.9: 17.9: 18.7:

minimum monthly sea temperatures in Struisbaai
Jan Feb Mar Apr May Jun Jul Aug Sep Oct Nov Dec;
Min °C: 19.6: 20.2: 19.6: 16.6: 14.6: 14.5: 14: 13.7: 14.1: 15.2: 15.9: 18.3:

minimum monthly sea temperatures in Melkbosstrand
Jan Feb Mar Apr May Jun Jul Aug Sep Oct Nov Dec;
Min °C: 16.7: 16.6: 16.6: 14.9: 14.9: 14.9: 14.3: 14.1: 14.5: 14.8: 16: 16.7:

In Melkbos those temperatures drop to 10 or 11 in summer. It's averaging 16 now

[Sards]

Just saw some figures
Over 50bn cost to GDP
Over 20bn damage to infrastructure.


1.5bn looted......





Let that sink in.......



50bn cost to the country for 1.5bn looted

[handyman]

Just saw some figures
Over 50bn cost to GDP
Over 20bn damage to infrastructure.


1.5bn looted......





Let that sink in.......



50bn cost to the country for 1.5bn looted

Wow.

[sorCrer]

minimum monthly sea temperatures in Mossel Bay
Jan Feb Mar Apr May Jun Jul Aug Sep Oct Nov Dec;
Min °C: 18.7: 19.1: 18.6: 17.5: 16.9: 16.4: 16.5: 15.8: 16.6: 16.9: 17.9: 18.7:

minimum monthly sea temperatures in Struisbaai
Jan Feb Mar Apr May Jun Jul Aug Sep Oct Nov Dec;
Min °C: 19.6: 20.2: 19.6: 16.6: 14.6: 14.5: 14: 13.7: 14.1: 15.2: 15.9: 18.3:

minimum monthly sea temperatures in Melkbosstrand
Jan Feb Mar Apr May Jun Jul Aug Sep Oct Nov Dec;
Min °C: 16.7: 16.6: 16.6: 14.9: 14.9: 14.9: 14.3: 14.1: 14.5: 14.8: 16: 16.7:

Jan Feb Mar Apr May Jun Jul Aug Sep Oct Nov Dec
Min °C 24.1 24.7 24.9 23 22.3 21.8 20.1 19.7 21 21.1 21.8 22.9
Max °C 27.8 27.5 27.3 27.2 25 23.7 23.8 22.7 23.2 23.7 24.5 26.8

Sun City Beach?

Durbs bru.

[Sards]

Jan Feb Mar Apr May Jun Jul Aug Sep Oct Nov Dec
Min °C 24.1 24.7 24.9 23 22.3 21.8 20.1 19.7 21 21.1 21.8 22.9
Max °C 27.8 27.5 27.3 27.2 25 23.7 23.8 22.7 23.2 23.7 24.5 26.8

Sun City Beach?

Durbs bru.

Make a line china

[OomStruisbaai]

Sun City Beach?

Durbs bru.

Root a line china

Fixed

[Globus]

Expect an influx to the Republic of the Western Cape

Where is the "Longest Beach In SH" OomStruisbaai?

I'm truly worried about SA. When we went to Constantia we stayed with a lady who was an active member of the Black Sash. We got to see the townships with her.

You stayed with Helen Zille?

Not saying. I've been anti apatheid all my life. Got charged by police officers on horseback in the "Stop the Boks" tour.

Invigorated by Martin Luther King's speech and the actions of Rosa Parks.

I'll have a lie down in a darkened room.

[OomStruisbaai]

IOL

Mike Proctor, Gary Teichmann ’clash’ at Durban road barricade

DURBAN - Amid the dark drama of the looting nightmare in Durban, there were some wonderfully bright moments, including one hilarious interaction between a former Springbok rugby captain and an all-time cricketing great.

The legendary Mike Proctor was standing guard at a Durban North community barricade armed with his trusty Slazenger cricket bat (what else?!) when a suspicious vehicle approached...

Proctor — talking to his Hilton College Old Boys group — relates the story: “I was standing with my bat in hand beside three guys who had proper stuff when a Range Rover made its way to the blockade... It was just about to go through the second block when the window slid down and a voice called out: “Proccie... I thought you were a bowler not a batsman. Very funny and it was Gary Teichmann!” — In all this chaos there can still be laughter!”

But rugger bugger Teichmann clearly does not know his cricket. As one cricketing boffin pointed out: In the history of first-class cricket, there are only three batsmen who have made six consecutive centuries — the world’s best ever batsman in Australian Don Bradman (in 1938); Englishman CB Fry, way back in 1901; and South Africa’s Michael John Procter in 1971, the very guy that Teichmann didn't know could bat!!

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But for Proctor, his “innings” at the barricades made him as proud a South African as anything he ever achieved on the cricket field.

“It was incredibly moving to see South Africans from all communities, from all walks of life, getting stuck in together to protect our country,” he told Independent Media.

“When push came to shove, people rallied together with a common purpose. Every one of them is a hero. It was heart-warming, it truly was.”

[Chilli]

Where is the "Longest Beach In SH" OomStruisbaai?

I'm truly worried about SA. When we went to Constantia we stayed with a lady who was an active member of the Black Sash. We got to see the townships with her.

You stayed with Helen Zille?

Not saying. I've been anti apatheid all my life. Got charged by police officers on horseback in the "Stop the Boks" tour.

Invigorated by Martin Luther King's speech and the actions of Rosa Parks.

I'll have a lie down in a darkened room.

Thread Globussed

[OomStruisbaai]

SA vs Japan Olympics soccer starts now on 201

[Cartman]

Just saw some figures
Over 50bn cost to GDP
Over 20bn damage to infrastructure.


1.5bn looted......





Let that sink in.......



50bn cost to the country for 1.5bn looted

Fokkit that's a lot of TVs

[Chilli]

https://www.timeslive.co.za/news/south- ... t-it-back/

SA 'knows' where the famous blue sofa is — but who is going to get it back?
Nivashni Nair
Senior reporter

22 July 2021 - 15:19
The couch, which is priced from R67,999, was the subject of a meme when it was photographed at an informal settlement hours after being stolen from the Springfield Value Centre.
The couch, which is priced from R67,999, was the subject of a meme when it was photographed at an informal settlement hours after being stolen from the Springfield Value Centre.
Image: via www.leathergallery.co.za
A Durban furniture store is closer to recovering its now famous blue couch that was stolen when its showroom was looted a week ago.


The San Pablo Corner Sofa, a genuine leather sectional with “elegantly sloped armrests and supportive headrests”, is at an informal settlement near Quarry Road in Durban.

This is according to social media users, who responded to Leather Gallery's call for information on the whereabouts of the couch.

The couch, which is priced from R67,999, was the subject of a meme when it was photographed at an informal settlement hours after it had been stolen from the Springfield showroom during unrest which swept through Durban.

Leather Gallery made the appeal for information on the whereabouts of its “beloved” sofa, which was “now stranded in the cold”, on Instagram.

Posted by Alpha Alarms on Tuesday, July 20, 2021
Social media users immediately responded, with most giving the exact location, right down to its proximity to the nearest spaza shop.


Leather Gallery owner Greg Parry told TimesLIVE on Thursday that he was overwhelmed with the response received from customers and community about the whereabouts of some of the items stolen from the Leather Gallery Springfield showroom.


“We are in the process of investigating the information received from many individuals. We have taken every tipoff into consideration and are compiling the many reports we received from the public about where some of our furniture could potentially be located,” he said.

Parry said Leather Gallery was mulling its next move.

“We want to take all of the necessary precautions as we understand that the situation is still potentially dangerous and can become volatile at any moment.

“We would love to retrieve as much of our looted stock as possible. However, along with the safety of our customers, our employees' safety is extremely important to us, and we would never want put them in a potentially dangerous environment,” he said.

Looting has ended, the coffin has been found but hunt goes on for blue couch
Authorities are busy recovering a mountain of stolen goods after last week's looting spree in KZN and Gauteng.
NEWS1 day ago
The SA Police Service did not respond to a query on whether it would recover SA's famous blue couch.

Meanwhile, Parry said along with the rest of KwaZulu-Natal, Leather Gallery was deeply saddened and devastated at the destruction and damage caused by the riots, looting and arson.

“We are extremely fortunate that our warehouses were heavily guarded and so were not affected. Additionally, 10 of our 11 stores were protected by security, police, communities and our own management and owners and so were not affected by the violent looting.

“Unfortunately, as many people are now aware, Springfield Value Centre was severely looted and burnt down. We are heartbroken that our flagship Leather Gallery showroom [there] was completely looted and the building completely burnt as a result of the arsonists.”

TimesLIVE

[average joe]

Who pays 70 grand for a fokon blue sofa?

[assfly]

Who pays 70 grand for a fokon blue sofa?

People who can afford to.

[Sandstorm]

Who pays 70 grand for a fokon blue sofa?

Leather sectional

[handyman]

Who pays 70 grand for a fokon blue sofa?

Whoever want's to. They don't need your approval.

[average joe]

That's why society is so fucktup these days. Fokon ding gaan vrot gepoep wees binne n maand. Donnerse lee verf blikke werk net so goed.

[sorCrer]

Who pays 70 grand for a fokon blue sofa?

Whoever want's to. They don't need your approval.

[_Os_]

This talk of coups and insurrections is kak. Just sounds like Ramaphosa is coming up with nonsense to avoid taking any responsibility.

It's pretty clear what happened. There was a tiny pro-Zuma protest, it got hi-jacked by some opportunists who were organised (the first lot were the gangs who attack trucks), then some desperate people got sucked in when they saw the gap. As the days passed all manner of highly organised gangs became involved, some of them working with military precision, because from the national government down they were bizarrely given a free go to commit crime. Then even middle class people who lean towards the ANC started rocking up in their bakkies and Mercs. It was just an all in mad feeding frenzy, even CEOs were rocking up to loot fridges and TVs, you would've thought all the sweet BEE deals would've been enough for them.

Zuma couldn't run a country, couldn't pick a cabinet and stick with it, can't even run his private life in an orderly manner for fucks sake. There's zero chance he could've directed all this.

The stuff about a coup/insurrection is just about trying to avoid embarrassment, a broad section of ANC South Africa bizarrely went all in on this one.

I have been a DA voter since inception but would seriously consider voting ANC if Ramaphosa held power going into the next election.

However you look at it the ANC just fucked a whole province, the disappearance of Ramaphosa during it all being a key issue. The answer isn't "vote ANC".

The ANC are going to get hammered whenever the next election happens. There's a decent chance out of the 8 metros the ANC will only keep their majority in Buffalo City. They're already below 50% in CT, Joburg, Tshwane, Ekurhuleni, NMB and they're in the mid 50s in eThekwini and Mangaung. They'll get klapped hard.

[assfly]

Agree with all of that, Os.

[average joe]

This talk of coups and insurrections is kak. Just sounds like Ramaphosa is coming up with nonsense to avoid taking any responsibility.

It's pretty clear what happened. There was a tiny pro-Zuma protest, it got hi-jacked by some opportunists who were organised (the first lot were the gangs who attack trucks), then some desperate people got sucked in when they saw the gap. As the days passed all manner of highly organised gangs became involved, some of them working with military precision, because from the national government down they were bizarrely given a free go to commit crime. Then even middle class people who lean towards the ANC started rocking up in their bakkies and Mercs. It was just an all in mad feeding frenzy, even CEOs were rocking up to loot fridges and TVs, you would've thought all the sweet BEE deals would've been enough for them.

Zuma couldn't run a country, couldn't pick a cabinet and stick with it, can't even run his private life orderly manner for fucks sake. There's zero chance he could've directed all this.

The stuff about a coup/insurrection is just about trying to avoid embarrassment, a broad section of ANC South Africa bizarrely went all in on this one.

I have been a DA voter since inception but would seriously consider voting ANC if Ramaphosa held power going into the next election.

However you look at it the ANC just fucked a whole province, the disappearance of Ramaphosa during it all being a key issue. The answer isn't "vote ANC".

The ANC are going to get hammered whenever the next election happens. There's a decent chance out of the 8 metros the ANC will only keep their majority in Buffalo City. They're already below 50% in CT, Joburg, Tshwane, Ekurhuleni, NMB and they're in the mid 50s in eThekwini and Mangaung. They'll get klapped hard.

All because they wanted Natal. Should have left it to the Zulu's

[_Os_]

Agree with all of that, Os.

I've given the coup/insurrection stuff some thought. Some of the attacks on warehouses were very organised, owners have spoken about it publicly, how it wasn't normal crime, and it wasn't desperate people until all the security was down. As I said in my post there were kombis hiding their licence plates scouting places in Durban (many other rumours, but this one was credible).

It's been well known for decades that quite a lot of organised crime in SA at an operational/tactical level is run with military precision, because the people involved have had military training. Cash in transit heists have been conducted by ex-MK and ex-Zim military since forever, videos of heists show that they're professionals.

So the problem the coup/insurrection believers have, is if the state decides to let crime happen for a bit without any consequences, what do they think organised criminals will get up to?

[handyman]

This talk of coups and insurrections is kak. Just sounds like Ramaphosa is coming up with nonsense to avoid taking any responsibility.

It's pretty clear what happened. There was a tiny pro-Zuma protest, it got hi-jacked by some opportunists who were organised (the first lot were the gangs who attack trucks), then some desperate people got sucked in when they saw the gap. As the days passed all manner of highly organised gangs became involved, some of them working with military precision, because from the national government down they were bizarrely given a free go to commit crime. Then even middle class people who lean towards the ANC started rocking up in their bakkies and Mercs. It was just an all in mad feeding frenzy, even CEOs were rocking up to loot fridges and TVs, you would've thought all the sweet BEE deals would've been enough for them.

Zuma couldn't run a country, couldn't pick a cabinet and stick with it, can't even run his private life in an orderly manner for fucks sake. There's zero chance he could've directed all this.

The stuff about a coup/insurrection is just about trying to avoid embarrassment, a broad section of ANC South Africa bizarrely went all in on this one.

I have been a DA voter since inception but would seriously consider voting ANC if Ramaphosa held power going into the next election.

However you look at it the ANC just fucked a whole province, the disappearance of Ramaphosa during it all being a key issue. The answer isn't "vote ANC".

The ANC are going to get hammered whenever the next election happens. There's a decent chance out of the 8 metros the ANC will only keep their majority in Buffalo City. They're already below 50% in CT, Joburg, Tshwane, Ekurhuleni, NMB and they're in the mid 50s in eThekwini and Mangaung. They'll get klapped hard.

Os, where do you think the votes will go?

[assfly]

Agree with all of that, Os.

I've given the coup/insurrection stuff some thought. Some of the attacks on warehouses were very organised, owners have spoken about it publicly, how it wasn't normal crime, and it wasn't desperate people until all the security was down. As I said in my post there were kombis hiding their licence plates scouting places in Durban (many other rumours, but this one was credible).

It's been well known for decades that quite a lot of organised crime in SA at an operational/tactical level is run with military precision, because the people involved have had military training. Cash in transit heists have been conducted by ex-MK and ex-Zim military since forever, videos of heists show that they're professionals.

So the problem the coup/insurrection believers have, is if the state decides to let crime happen for a bit without any consequences, what do they think organised criminals will get up to?

Yes the coup accusations never held water for me, and CR is yet to clarify his position on this.

For me to believe it was a coup, there would have to be the hallmarks of other coups that have happened. TV and radio stations taken control of and/or shut down, president and his cabinet under direct threat, heavily military presence in the capital city, marshal law declared and a clear leader orchestrating proceedings. And in Zimbabwe's case, a military spokesperson telling us that it definitely, absolutely, obviously,100% is totally not a coup.

[_Os_]

All because they wanted Natal. Should have left it to the Zulu's

There's only two provinces the ANC has ever lost, Western Cape and KZN. Decent chance KZN goes back into the lost stack after 2024, a slim ANC majority there and a lot of voters.

Os, where do you think the votes will go?

ANC voters never turn up in as great numbers in municipal elections. DA voters turnout in the same numbers regardless of what election is. If an election happens this year the ANC will have it's usual lower turnout because it's a municipal election, but will likely also take an additional hit matching the ANC's decline in 2019 (Ramaphosa did much worse in 2019, than Zuma in 2014 and 2009). There's a reason they seem keen for this election not to happen.

Most people that stop voting ANC just give up voting entirely. Sad, but their choice and a better choice than voting ANC. EFF picks up some scraps and that's about it. Maybe the IFP will also get some of the scraps now.

EDIT: The DA has been growing strongly in KZN for awhile. So it's actually a four way fight there between ANC/DA/IFP/EFF in roughly that order.

[Chilli]

The DA is in a bit of a mess.
Will black voters vote for a party run Steenhuizen [who seems to be a good bloke] and Zille ?

[handyman]

The DA is in a bit of a mess.
Will black voters vote for a party run Steenhuizen [who seems to be a good bloke] and Zille ?

They are in a bit of a mess, the ANC and EFF are in shambles.

[assfly]

If I was the DA I'd be all over this mess. TV, papers, online, everywhere.

[OomStruisbaai]

Must be stupid not to vote DA.

The proof is in the Republic of the Western Cape

[assfly]

Must be stupid not to vote DA.

The proof is in the Republic of the Western Cape

Perhaps the DA have the same dismissive attitude which is why they are unsuccessful in other provinces.

[_Os_]

The DA is in a bit of a mess.
Will black voters vote for a party run Steenhuizen [who seems to be a good bloke] and Zille ?

The DA seems to be getting back on track. The party membership is much bigger now than it was in the 2000s which helps when campaigning, but membership and branches were damaged under the directionless Maimane. Just having a proper direction the overwhelming majority of the party agree on will help. The DA's social media game has definitely improved during lockdown, there's a very good video offering now (important for keeping supporters engaged).

There's more than Zille and Steenhuisen at the top of the party, the very top is really 3 or 4 people. What people inclined towards the DA think of Zille and Steenhuisen, and what the media says about them, are two completely different things. Nearly all the DA's growth in black/coloured/Indian communities came whilst Zille was leader, she's well liked, that's why she has her current position there was a vote inside the party and she won.

There's every chance the DA can grow under Steenhuisen, the key thing is he has to keep it real and show that whatever else he means well. That was Zille's winning formula. Maimane among other failings came across as very fake, no one really trusted him or knew what he was about which is why he failed to win new black voters, he's now doing BEE stuff last I heard.

The thing you have to always remember is no party can win everyone, the market for a party positioned where the DA is at most 40% of the electorate. There's always going to be people that dislike the DA because most whites support it, there's nothing that can be done about that, they just have to get on with not voting DA and ranting about whites. The long term DA goal has been winning 30% for awhile now. 30% by 2029 is credible if they continue building in this direction, and don't try the directionless fake plastic stuff.

[_Os_]

If I was the DA I'd be all over this mess. TV, papers, online, everywhere.

Steenhuisen was on the ground in Durban walking around with other the DA MPs from Durban and talking to people whilst all the madness was still happening. Ramaphosa was still hiding then, and later turned up with his 50 security guards looked at some shops and left.

Steenhuisen's visit went very far in Durban.

[assfly]

Fair enough. Didn't see it but glad to hear it

[Chilli]

The DA is in a bit of a mess.
Will black voters vote for a party run Steenhuizen [who seems to be a good bloke] and Zille ?

The DA seems to be getting back on track. The party membership is much bigger now than it was in the 2000s which helps when campaigning, but membership and branches were damaged under the directionless Maimane. Just having a proper direction the overwhelming majority of the party agree on will help. The DA's social media game has definitely improved during lockdown, there's a very good video offering now (important for keeping supporters engaged).

There's more than Zille and Steenhuisen at the top of the party, the very top is really 3 or 4 people. What people inclined towards the DA think of Zille and Steenhuisen, and what the media says about them, are two completely different things. Nearly all the DA's growth in black/coloured/Indian communities came whilst Zille was leader, she's well liked, that's why she has her current position there was a vote inside the party and she won.

There's every chance the DA can grow under Steenhuisen, the key thing is he has to keep it real and show that whatever else he means well. That was Zille's winning formula. Maimane among other failings came across as very fake, no one really trusted him or knew what he was about which is why he failed to win new black voters, he's now doing BEE stuff last I heard.

The thing you have to always remember is no party can win everyone, the market for a party positioned where the DA is at most 40% of the electorate. There's always going to be people that dislike the DA because most whites support it, there's nothing that can be done about that, they just have to get on with not voting DA and ranting about whites. The long term DA goal has been winning 30% for awhile now. 30% by 2029 is credible if they continue building in this direction, and don't try the directionless fake plastic stuff.

Zille is seen to be the reason why 2 black top leaders of the DA left the DA. The manner in which both Mazibuko and Maimane left the DA has left a bad taste in the mouth of your middle class black voter.

The treatment of De Lille might have killed off the famed coloured vote. Here they might be lucky that no other coloured politician has seen and taken the gap.

The DA has also lost a lot of Afrikaans support to the FF+.

They are in more trouble than what you might think.

[Calculon]

I've met Helen Zille. She is seriously impressive, but most SA voters are idiots

[Chilli]

I've met Helen Zille. She is seriously impressive, but most SA voters are idiots

I used to be a huge fan of her, but think that she has gone batshit crazy over the last while.