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Re: Scotland v France C

Posted: Sat Aug 05, 2023 3:49 pm
by PCPhil
Jocks playing better without Fergusdumb

Re: Scotland v France C

Posted: Sat Aug 05, 2023 3:49 pm
by Punter15
sockwithaticket wrote: Sat Aug 05, 2023 3:46 pm
Jim Lahey wrote: Sat Aug 05, 2023 3:43 pm
I like neeps wrote: Sat Aug 05, 2023 3:37 pm Zander will be missing a good chunk of the world cup.
What's his disciplinary record like?
That was utterly braindead and thuggish. If he has any skeletons in the closet he could be goosed for a decent ban.
He's had another red for the exact same thing in the 2021 6N.
Yep, we all thought it was a Welsh tactic to milk reds but turns out he’s just quite thick.

Re: Scotland v France C

Posted: Sat Aug 05, 2023 3:50 pm
by Slick
Punter15 wrote: Sat Aug 05, 2023 3:44 pm We’ve stopped playing hot potato.
This. Play when we can.

Re: Scotland v France C

Posted: Sat Aug 05, 2023 3:53 pm
by Torquemada 1420
Serin the snail on. :sick:

Re: Scotland v France C

Posted: Sat Aug 05, 2023 3:54 pm
by PCPhil
Torquemada 1420 wrote: Sat Aug 05, 2023 3:53 pm Serin the snail on. :sick:
Needs more Ntamack :wave:

Re: Scotland v France C

Posted: Sat Aug 05, 2023 3:55 pm
by Begbie
Slick wrote: Sat Aug 05, 2023 3:41 pm
Begbie wrote: Sat Aug 05, 2023 3:38 pm
I like neeps wrote: Sat Aug 05, 2023 3:37 pm Zander will be missing a good chunk of the world cup.
I honestly don't care, the fud is a liability.
Sadly, we have few other options
Aye, very frustrating. Probably even more so for his team mates who have to tolerate him undoing any good work time after time.

Re: Scotland v France C

Posted: Sat Aug 05, 2023 3:56 pm
by Torquemada 1420
PCPhil wrote: Sat Aug 05, 2023 3:54 pm
Torquemada 1420 wrote: Sat Aug 05, 2023 3:53 pm Serin the snail on. :sick:
Needs more Ntamack :wave:
That half back pairing is the stuff of nightmares. The 2 SHs selected here aren't even close to the top choices in Fra. Both have been repeated failures when given chances at intl level.

Re: Scotland v France C

Posted: Sat Aug 05, 2023 3:58 pm
by Slick
Ahh come on, get it in the corner

Re: Scotland v France C

Posted: Sat Aug 05, 2023 4:04 pm
by Big D
Two lazy penalties by Gray costing us here.

Re: Scotland v France C

Posted: Sat Aug 05, 2023 4:07 pm
by Big D
12 Scottish penalties with 7 from Fagerson and Gray.

Re: Scotland v France C

Posted: Sat Aug 05, 2023 4:08 pm
by Big D
Well done Cam Redpath.

Re: Scotland v France C

Posted: Sat Aug 05, 2023 4:09 pm
by Torquemada 1420
Serin the snail slows down every ruck ball as usual. When playing against 14 men we get the inevitable result.

Re: Scotland v France C

Posted: Sat Aug 05, 2023 4:09 pm
by Tichtheid
Good, but ffs we can't give teams a three try start

Re: Scotland v France C

Posted: Sat Aug 05, 2023 4:09 pm
by sefton
That was fucking heroic.

Bravo Scotland.

Re: Scotland v France C

Posted: Sat Aug 05, 2023 4:10 pm
by SaintK
Played Scotland.....in the second half!
Lineout defence was good at the end

Re: Scotland v France C

Posted: Sat Aug 05, 2023 4:10 pm
by ASMO
Well done Scotland, but a pyrric victory i would suggest, i would be really concerned if i was a Scotland supporter.

Re: Scotland v France C

Posted: Sat Aug 05, 2023 4:11 pm
by I like neeps
ASMO wrote: Sat Aug 05, 2023 4:10 pm Well done Scotland, but a pyrric victory i would suggest, i would be really concerned if i was a Scotland supporter.
Why? Played very well.

Re: Scotland v France C

Posted: Sat Aug 05, 2023 4:12 pm
by Big D
ASMO wrote: Sat Aug 05, 2023 4:10 pm Well done Scotland, but a pyrric victory i would suggest, i would be really concerned if i was a Scotland supporter.
We are always concerned plus in a group with South Africa and Ireland.

Plenty to work on to improve as one would expect from preseason but not one of us is expecting to get out the group.

Re: Scotland v France C

Posted: Sat Aug 05, 2023 4:12 pm
by sockwithaticket
Kudos to the Scots on the comeback, particularly while a man down for most of the half.

A lot of French players who won't have advanced their position in the squad pecking order given the manner of that second half performance. It took far too long to arrest the Scotish momentum and they did very little with their last several minutes camped on the Scots' 5m line.

Re: Scotland v France C

Posted: Sat Aug 05, 2023 4:13 pm
by Tichtheid
I like neeps wrote: Sat Aug 05, 2023 4:11 pm
ASMO wrote: Sat Aug 05, 2023 4:10 pm Well done Scotland, but a pyrric victory i would suggest, i would be really concerned if i was a Scotland supporter.
Why? Played very well.

We could say it was the first hit out for that team, but it was the same for France, we were poor in the first half, quite good in the second

Re: Scotland v France C

Posted: Sat Aug 05, 2023 4:16 pm
by ASMO
Tichtheid wrote: Sat Aug 05, 2023 4:13 pm
I like neeps wrote: Sat Aug 05, 2023 4:11 pm
ASMO wrote: Sat Aug 05, 2023 4:10 pm Well done Scotland, but a pyrric victory i would suggest, i would be really concerned if i was a Scotland supporter.
Why? Played very well.

We could say it was the first hit out for that team, but it was the same for France, we were poor in the first half, quite good in the second
A France team devoid of 13 starters

Re: Scotland v France C

Posted: Sat Aug 05, 2023 4:17 pm
by Torquemada 1420
ASMO wrote: Sat Aug 05, 2023 4:10 pm Well done Scotland, but a pyrric victory i would suggest, i would be really concerned if i was a Scotland supporter.
I think Sco got more from the game than Fra: unless you count discounting players who should already have been discounted a positive.

I can't see any of today's selections starting next week unless Galthie is planning on throwing all these games to rest key players.

Re: Scotland v France C

Posted: Sat Aug 05, 2023 4:18 pm
by PCPhil
ASMO wrote: Sat Aug 05, 2023 4:16 pm
Tichtheid wrote: Sat Aug 05, 2023 4:13 pm
I like neeps wrote: Sat Aug 05, 2023 4:11 pm

Why? Played very well.

We could say it was the first hit out for that team, but it was the same for France, we were poor in the first half, quite good in the second
A France team devoid of 13 starters
Yes but Scotland had Ferguson to even it up a bit.

Re: Scotland v France C

Posted: Sat Aug 05, 2023 4:18 pm
by S/Lt_Phillips
Not the ending I was expecting given the first half, and then the red card. Good fightback from Scotland though, which is encouraging.

Re: Scotland v France C

Posted: Sat Aug 05, 2023 4:19 pm
by Tichtheid
ASMO wrote: Sat Aug 05, 2023 4:16 pm
Tichtheid wrote: Sat Aug 05, 2023 4:13 pm
I like neeps wrote: Sat Aug 05, 2023 4:11 pm

Why? Played very well.

We could say it was the first hit out for that team, but it was the same for France, we were poor in the first half, quite good in the second
A France team devoid of 13 starters

Who really weren't in it in the second half.


That doesn't ignore how bad we were in the first period, mind.

Re: Scotland v France C

Posted: Sat Aug 05, 2023 4:19 pm
by Paddington Bear
Lots of character in that fightback, fair play.

Re: Scotland v France C

Posted: Sat Aug 05, 2023 4:23 pm
by tc27
France are an incredibly stupid team.

Re: Scotland v France C

Posted: Sat Aug 05, 2023 4:24 pm
by Torquemada 1420
ASMO wrote: Sat Aug 05, 2023 4:16 pm
Tichtheid wrote: Sat Aug 05, 2023 4:13 pm
I like neeps wrote: Sat Aug 05, 2023 4:11 pm

Why? Played very well.

We could say it was the first hit out for that team, but it was the same for France, we were poor in the first half, quite good in the second
A France team devoid of 13 starters
15 I'd say. 1st choice lineup is probably
Baille-Marchand-Lardarse
Flament- Willemse
Cros-Ollivon-Alldritt
Dupont-Ntamack
Danty-Fickou
Penaud-Villiere-Ramos

Re: Scotland v France C

Posted: Sat Aug 05, 2023 4:25 pm
by Tichtheid
Torquemada 1420 wrote: Sat Aug 05, 2023 4:17 pm
ASMO wrote: Sat Aug 05, 2023 4:10 pm Well done Scotland, but a pyrric victory i would suggest, i would be really concerned if i was a Scotland supporter.
I think Sco got more from the game than Fra: unless you count discounting players who should already have been discounted a positive.

I can't see any of today's selections starting next week unless Galthie is planning on throwing all these games to rest key players.
I read elsewhere that Galthié is selecting a shadow side for both Scotland games in order to have a look at the fringe players, the full side will feature against Fiji and Australia

Re: Scotland v France C

Posted: Sat Aug 05, 2023 4:27 pm
by Torquemada 1420
tc27 wrote: Sat Aug 05, 2023 4:23 pm France are an incredibly stupid team.
Totally devoid of leadership in that 2nd half. Making Dulin captain was a retarded decision: FB as captain is dumb at the best of times and even more so when it's a guy thrown a token cap. Really, Jalibert should have taken on more responsibility but he was as bad tactically as I accuse Ntamack of being.

Re: Scotland v France C

Posted: Sat Aug 05, 2023 4:33 pm
by Torquemada 1420
Tichtheid wrote: Sat Aug 05, 2023 4:25 pm
Torquemada 1420 wrote: Sat Aug 05, 2023 4:17 pm
ASMO wrote: Sat Aug 05, 2023 4:10 pm Well done Scotland, but a pyrric victory i would suggest, i would be really concerned if i was a Scotland supporter.
I think Sco got more from the game than Fra: unless you count discounting players who should already have been discounted a positive.

I can't see any of today's selections starting next week unless Galthie is planning on throwing all these games to rest key players.
I read elsewhere that Galthié is selecting a shadow side for both Scotland games in order to have a look at the fringe players, the full side will feature against Fiji and Australia
Well then he's going to have wasted the 2 games because nobody stood up today and so anyone doing so next week will simply look inconsistent and so not likely to be in the wider frame. I wonder if Woki will be thrown back onto the flank.

Re: Scotland v France C

Posted: Sat Aug 05, 2023 4:38 pm
by Slick
ASMO wrote: Sat Aug 05, 2023 4:10 pm Well done Scotland, but a pyrric victory i would suggest, i would be really concerned if i was a Scotland supporter.
Crap first half, very decent second. Not that worried

Re: Scotland v France C

Posted: Sat Aug 05, 2023 4:48 pm
by Torquemada 1420
EnergiseR2 wrote: Sat Aug 05, 2023 4:41 pm
Torquemada 1420 wrote: Sat Aug 05, 2023 2:29 pm
EnergiseR2 wrote: Sat Aug 05, 2023 2:23 pm Cmon Scotland. The French are well known cunts. Even more so than you lot
Gailleton and Bielle-biarrey showing had they played against Ire in the U20, Fra would have won by 100. :wave:
Missed it as at funeral. Looked like Scotland woke up after 40
Sorry to hear that.

The 2 U20 lads stood up well but only Bourgarit and maybe Tanga of the senior pros can claim to have provided them any adequate support.

Re: Scotland v France C

Posted: Sat Aug 05, 2023 4:48 pm
by lemonhead
Torquemada 1420 wrote: Sat Aug 05, 2023 4:09 pm Serin the snail slows down every ruck ball as usual. When playing against 14 men we get the inevitable result.
Mystified how he keeps getting caps. Very often last 10mins, where speed of ball can be fairly important.

You'd swear there was incoming sniper fire the way he crouches behind each ruck for safety.

Re: Scotland v France C

Posted: Sat Aug 05, 2023 5:01 pm
by Torquemada 1420
lemonhead wrote: Sat Aug 05, 2023 4:48 pm
Torquemada 1420 wrote: Sat Aug 05, 2023 4:09 pm Serin the snail slows down every ruck ball as usual. When playing against 14 men we get the inevitable result.
Mystified how he keeps getting caps. Very often last 10mins, where speed of ball can be fairly important.

You'd swear there was incoming sniper fire the way he crouches behind each ruck for safety.
The "little general" philosophy runs deep in many quarters, including Toulon. Remember Galthie wasn't exactly keen on fast ball when he was a player either.

Re: Scotland v France C

Posted: Sat Aug 05, 2023 5:05 pm
by Marylandolorian
Only these should have a shot with the last 33 . 14 Louis Bielle-Biarrey, 13 Emilien Gailleton, 2 Pierre Bourgarit, 1 JB Gros

Already in. 10 Mat Jalibert, 16 Peato Mauvaka, 17 Reda Wardi, 18 Sipili Falatea, 19 Paul Willemse, 20 Dylan Cretin,

Needs to be the FH next week . 22 Antoine Hastoy

Re: Scotland v France C

Posted: Sat Aug 05, 2023 5:11 pm
by Torquemada 1420
Marylandolorian wrote: Sat Aug 05, 2023 5:05 pm Only these should have a shot with the last 33 . 14 Louis Bielle-Biarrey, 13 Emilien Gailleton, 7 Sekou Macalou, 2 Pierre Bourgarit, 1 JB Gros

Already in. 10 Mat Jalibert, 16 Peato Mauvaka, 17 Reda Wardi, 18 Sipili Falatea, 19 Paul Willemse, 20 Dylan Cretin,

Needs be the starter next week . 22 Antoine Hastoy
Too early for B-B. A bit weak in defence at the moment. And anyway, he's a FB.
I'm a huge Macalou fan and he had a stellar season but really was nowhere most of today.
Not convinced that Bourgarit is a better option than Chat.

What really surprises me is no sign of Jaminet. I really can't see Dulin being selected but Jaminet has hardly played this season and when he has, he hasn't convinced anyone in Toulouse.

Re: Scotland v France C

Posted: Sat Aug 05, 2023 5:44 pm
by laurent
Dreadful second half. Well done Scotland.

Re: Scotland v France C

Posted: Sat Aug 05, 2023 6:23 pm
by tc27
Good to see Ruth Davidson already having a positive impact.

Re: Scotland v France C

Posted: Sat Aug 05, 2023 6:24 pm
by Slick
tc27 wrote: Sat Aug 05, 2023 6:23 pm Good to see Ruth Davidson already having a positive impact.
😂